New Heathen album is excellent, along with the Overkill it's set
things up for a good 2010. New albums from Blind Guardian, Electric
Wizard, Opeth, Forbidden, Watchtower and loads more to follow
Is the Heathen a 2009 or 2010 release. Version I grabbed said 2009.
It was quite enjoyable and would probably fit somewhere 21-30 in my
year list. Only cause it's fairly blank between 21 to 30. I am sure
I could fill those spots, but I just can't be arsed to trawl through
all the mediocre releases from last year looking for something half
decent.
Anyway the Ihsahn has leaked, but hasn't impressed me so far. Was
rather disappointed actually especially considering how much I liked
Angl.
E
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2009 is history and it's all about the now.
Version I grabbed said 2009 but it's not been released yet.
> New Heathen album is excellent, along with the Overkill it's set
> things up for a good 2010. New albums from Blind Guardian, Electric
> Wizard, Opeth, Forbidden, Watchtower and loads more to follow
A new Watchtower???
e.
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zomg?
Read something a few days ago about a new Watchtower album...I nearly
spit tea all over my monitor.
Found this on the Watchtower website.
After long planning for work on the new Watchtower recordings for the
long awaited release of "Mathematics", it is confirmed that original
vocalist, Jason Mcmaster, will NOT be cutting tracks on the
recordings, nor will he attend the long confirmed Watchtower set at
2010's KEEP IT TRUE metal fest in Germany, April of this coming new
year.
Watchtower has RE-enlisted Hades front man,"Control and Resistance"
vocalist, Alan Tecchio.
" Its not fair for me to censor my style to what the band needs for
this record"...Mcmaster says".... it's way too important. I understand
this fact. Alan and I have been working with Watchtower in discussing
what this record means to the world. i jokingly say...dude, I'm too
metal for this record!!"
Hades is also already confirmed for the KEEP IT TRUE fest, as Alan
will be doing the Hades set as well as the Watchtower set.
Watchtower has been confirmed for the "KEEP IT TRUE" metal fest in
Germany (April 2010!) More news soon...
I could fill out a top 30 quite comfortably, I did rediscover a love of
black metal in a big way about halfway through the year and a lot of good
stuff came out. Haven`t heard the Heathen yet.
>Anyway the Ihsahn has leaked, but hasn't impressed me so far. Was
>rather disappointed actually especially considering how much I liked
>Angl.
The new Ihsahn bored the shit out of me...I didn`t much care for Angl either
to be honest. I had to play In the Nightside Eclipse afterwards to remind me
how awesome he used to be.
I'm listening to the new Ihsahn now and I rather like it (yes even the
saxophone).
The sax is the major stumbling block for me. Most of the album ranges
from okay to good until the two bits with the sax. The dissonant part
is truly awful and I want to shove the sax somewhere painful. Then
the second bit reminds me that there is an awful dissonant sax part on
the album, which will be coming around again soon if I have it on
repeat.
E.
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I might be able to find a few more albums that didn't bore me. I just
can't think of a good reason why I should try.
>
> >Anyway the Ihsahn has leaked, but hasn't impressed me so far. Was
> >rather disappointed actually especially considering how much I liked
> >Angl.
>
> The new Ihsahn bored the shit out of me...I didn`t much care for Angl either
> to be honest. I had to play In the Nightside Eclipse afterwards to remind me
> how awesome he used to be.
Angl was an excellent release and it still gets plays.
E.
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E.
I d/l this age ago and never got round to listening to it...had forgotten
all about it to be honest. I`ll have to check it out!
Last 2 days
Jethro Tull - Thick As a Brick
Dissection - The Somberlain
Deathspell Omega - Manifestations 2000-2001
Deathspell Omega - Manifestations 2002
Deathspell Omega - Inquisitors of Satan
Deathspell Omega - Si Monumnetum Requires Circums
Enslaved - Vertebrae
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Marduk - Heaven Shall Burn...When We Are Gathered
Anaal Nathrakh - Hell is Empty and All the Devils are Here
Drudkh - Blood in Our Wells
Marduk - Nightwing
Marduk - World Funeral
Death - Individual Thought Patterns
Anaal Nathrakh - Eschaton
Bathory - The Return
Deathspell Omega - Crushing the Holy Trinity EP
Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel ( released in the last week of 2009,
would have made my list for sure ).
I really enjoyed their last release - colours,or is it colors (lazy
fuckers). Anyway I am still baffled that they still get called
metalcore.
>
> Last 2 days
>
> Jethro Tull - Thick As a Brick
> Dissection - The Somberlain
> Deathspell Omega - Manifestations 2000-2001
> Deathspell Omega - Manifestations 2002
> Deathspell Omega - Inquisitors of Satan
> Deathspell Omega - Si Monumnetum Requires Circums
> Enslaved - Vertebrae
> Opeth - Blackwater Park
> Marduk - Heaven Shall Burn...When We Are Gathered
> Anaal Nathrakh - Hell is Empty and All the Devils are Here
> Drudkh - Blood in Our Wells
> Marduk - Nightwing
> Marduk - World Funeral
> Death - Individual Thought Patterns
> Anaal Nathrakh - Eschaton
> Bathory - The Return
> Deathspell Omega - Crushing the Holy Trinity EP
> Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel ( released in the last week of 2009,
> would have made my list for sure ).
Hmm might check it out. I went through your 2009 list for stuff I
hadn't heard and I am glad I didn't waste my bandwidth on them.
However I'll stick check out this, just on the off chance you've
washed out your ears and found something decent for once..;-)
E.
You`d like bits and hate bits I suspect. It goes from raucous black metal to
mid paced Hammerheart Bathory era stuff and often wanders off into total
bluesy prog rock sections. There`s a fair whack of flutey stuff as well
which would put you off. It is of course infinitely better than Insomnium,
Amorphis, Belakor or other such snoozey type wishy washy rubbish but I
suspect you`re beyond help now...
I will give it a miss then, as I prefer something coherent, well
produced and with a modicum of musical talent thrown in.
Looks like I'll be treating your playlists the same way as TJ's....;-)
E.
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Hmmm, there was nothing I said in that that implied it was badly produced
( quite the contrary ) and certainly not that it lacked musical talent (
which it oozes and has some particularly brilliant solos ). To consider
something to likely be incoherent because there`s a depth of variety in the
song writing is bizarre as well.
raucous black metal = badly produced in most cases and has never
impressed upon me the skills of the musicians, normally the opposite.
I have yet to hear any band that can incorporate so many styles
without it sounding sloppy. Most often when someone produces
something like this, someone mentions that the band might want to try
and stick to one style. In fact I have often seen you criticise a
band for trying to incorporate so much.
I would rather listen to my wishy washy rubbish than even attempt to
listen to anything you recommend at the moment.
E.
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Your loss!
Hardly. No point in wasting my time and bandwidth on something even
you say I would hate in places. The same goes for the majority of
your new finds at the moment. You're on a BM kick, mine lasted a few
weeks and I got bored with it. The only BM I am likely to check out
is the atmospheric stuff, but even that has reached it's tolerance
point.
Now do you want to explain how it's my loss with me listening to stuff
I know I enjoy, rather than listening to stuff I highly suspect I
wont.
E.
It`s one of those albums where I can`t really say whether you`d like it or
not. Whilst at times it goes blastbeat it`s also very often mid tempo and
has a lot of proggy sections...along the same lines as an Enslaved or Opeth.
The only reason I don`t think you`d go for it is the occasional flutey type
bits.
Starting off with "You`d like bits and hate bits I suspect." isn't a
going to get me that interested in checking it out. Of all the
references you then supplied, the only bit of interest would be
"bluesy prog rock".
>Whilst at times it goes blastbeat it`s also very often mid tempo and
> has a lot of proggy sections...along the same lines as an Enslaved or Opeth.
> The only reason I don`t think you`d go for it is the occasional flutey type
> bits.
Now if you mentioned Enslaved or Opeth to begin with I might have
checked it out. However now we have raucous, blastbeat Black Metal,
Folk, Blues, Prog, along the lines of Bathory, Opeth and Enslaved and
this doesn't seem too much for you (and where I garnered the
incoherent bit from). Also what period of Opeth/Enslaved are we
talking about, as both bands have morphed dramatically.
E.
> > Your loss!
>
> Hardly. No point in wasting my time and bandwidth on something even
> you say I would hate in places. The same goes for the majority of
> your new finds at the moment. You're on a BM kick, mine lasted a few
> weeks and I got bored with it. The only BM I am likely to check out
> is the atmospheric stuff, but even that has reached it's tolerance
> point.
>
> Now do you want to explain how it's my loss with me listening to stuff
> I know I enjoy, rather than listening to stuff I highly suspect I
> wont.
>
> E.
Your loss? I too would like it explained how something I normally
barely tolerate is something I should get right to and listen to a lot
of times. It's an odd way of listening to music, if you ask me. If I
see metalcore, punk or anything of the sort in the genre descriptions,
I know in advance I will have a low percentage chance I will like it.
So I will likely reach for something I know I will have a higher
percentage chance of liking.
Tom
The proggy bits remind me very much of latter Enslaved...I don`t really see
what`s the big deal about an album that has fast black metal bits and mid
tempo black metal bits ala mid period Bathory as being incoherent, the
proggy bits give it something extra and folk/flutey stuff has been around in
black metal for as long as I can remember. Fuck it, either download it or
don`t, I`m not that bothered, I think it`s awesome anyway!!
I would never have thought to recommend it to you. I never actually
recommended it to E, he saw me say it was good, said he might check it out
and I said I suspect he`d like some of it and hate some of it. My `your
loss` comment was to E`s saying he wouldn`t want to check out *anything* I
recommended at the moment as opposed to this album in particular and was
nothing more than a flippant remark as I didn`t want to argue anymore about
an album he hadn`t heard!
A flippant remark like that is bound to get a reply from me, you
should know that by now.
E.
I have given up giving recommendations around here, as most people
seem to want to pull apart what other people like. Yes I am guilty as
the next person, but lets see everyone chime in how they never do it.
E.
I had BtBaM in my original list.. got bumped.
SG
Having looked at my list I would probably swap Steel Panther for BtBaM
and then probably bump it up a few places. Though I have enjoyed
both, BtBaM gets the nod as I prefer the music.
E.
Id never bash someones taste for listening to ATG or Opeth!
;)
You're such a tease.
E.
> I would never have thought to recommend it to you. I never actually
> recommended it to E, he saw me say it was good, said he might check it out
> and I said I suspect he`d like some of it and hate some of it. My `your
> loss` comment was to E`s saying he wouldn`t want to check out *anything* I
> recommended at the moment as opposed to this album in particular and was
> nothing more than a flippant remark as I didn`t want to argue anymore about
> an album he hadn`t heard!
All this discord over a recommendation, or just a band in a playlist
makes me want to actually hear a bit of it.
This is the band, right?
Nokturnal Mortum
Ok, if myspace decides to load. Gave up on Myspace and went to You
Tube.
I would say the production on this would put off Wyrd, I don't mind
it. Not sure it's something I'd want to listen to often, but on this
one occasion.
Tom
Yeah, it's gotten tedious as I don't get much feedback when bringing
something new to the table.
SG
I'll try not to be too dismissive of what you bring to the table,
unless of course it's punk, grunge, nu-metal, gothic, raw BM, Brutal
DM..;-)
E.
Motorhead - Bastards
Motorhead - Stone Deaf Forever 5xCD box
Venom - MMV 4xCD Box
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Cathedral - Serpent's Gold
Neurosis - Souls At Zero
Hacavitz - Venganza (Mexican version of MA ;)
Beherit - Oath of the Black Blood
Beherit - Drawing Down the Moon
Sigh - Gallow's Gallery
Ministry - The Land of Rape and Honey
Ministry - The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste
Butthole Surfers - The Whole Truth and Nothing Butt (early 90s bootleg
given official release by the band)
Faith/Void/Faith - Split (82 dc hardcore)
V/A - This is Boston Not La (82 boston hardcore)
V/A - Knuckle Express Vol II (2004ish bay area punk/hardcore
compilation with Strung Up, Street Trash, Deathtoll etc)
Gaia - 777 (All ladies japanese hardcore.)
Chelsea - Urban Kids: An Anthology 2xcd (UK77 punk)
Pegboy - Strong Reaction/Three Chord Monte CD (Early 90s melodic
hardcore)
Nobodys - Short Songs for Short Attention Spans (mid 90s sloppy pop
punk)
Nobodys - The Smell of Victory
Great :)
Didn't know you didn't like brutal DM though... ie. Blood Red Throne's
'Souls of Damnation'
is delish (smacks lips).
I also am digging the new Necrodeath big time...
SG
Depends on how extreme it is. What some people regard as Brutal,
others will just call normal DM. Anything where you can't really tell
where one song ends and another starts, no variety, no melody, no
memorable riffs. I need hooks to drag me back to listen to stuff and
a lot of the brutal DM just doesn't have that for me.
>
> I also am digging the new Necrodeath big time...
I heard it and I normally enjoy their stuff, but I really can't
remember anything about it.
E.
Deathspell Omega - Kenose
Akercocke - Words That Go Unspoken
Enslaved - Ruun
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Slayer - Hell Awaits
Slayer - Haunting the Chapel
Sodom - In the Sign of Evil
Kreator - Endless Pain
Destruction - Infernal Overkill
Rotting Christ - Khronos
Marillion - Script for a Jester`s Tear
Rush - Hold Your Fire
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
Metallica - Ride the Lightning
Dark Tranquillity - Where Death is Most Alive
Blind Guardian - Imaginations Throught the Looking Glass
Overkill - Ironbound
Voivod - live in Brussels `87 bootleg
At the Gates - live in Nottingham `94 bootleg
Venom - The 7th Date of Hell VHS rip
I hate to say it, but the Slayer has sort of slipped from my
playlist. Almost 2 weeks without nary a spin.
I did play Several thrash albums lately, though.
Overkill-Immortalis
Defiance-The Prophecy
Megadeth-Endgame (got to say, I like this a lot more now than the
first few times)
And others.
The Slayer has been out for a few months now, I normally find any new album
gets a bout of plays in the first 2-3 months then slips when new ones come
in. I don`t think I`ve played it for a couple of weeks myself.
I don't think it has the longevity that the Megadeth album has, Slayer
dropped off my playlist within 2 or 3 weeks of first hearing it,
whereas the Deth along with Kreator, Candlemass, Municipal Waste and
Shrinebuilder is still getting played now.
I am still playing WPB. It is also my most played album of the last 3
months (via Last.fm) by a very large margin. The Kreator hasn't been
played for ages nor is it likely to get a spin. Out of those you
mentioned only the Candlemass gets regular spins.
I am mixing playing the best stuff from 09, with some new stuff from
10. So far I have found some excellent releases and only one real
disappointment. If things continue at this rate 10 is going to be a
phenomenal year.
E.
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2010 is already better than last year in every possible way......lets
hope it continues.
In my 4 gig MP3 player now:
Dark Funeral - Attera Totus Santus
Bad Brains - Build a Nation
Obituary - Darkest Day
Witchery - Dead Hot and Ready
High On Fire - Death is This Communion
Dying Fetus - Descend Into Depravity
Evile - Enter the Grave
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Herald - Heavy Metal Wakes the Beast
Brides of Destruction - Here Comes the Bride
3 Inches of Blood - Here Waits Thy Doom
Death - Human
Kittie - In the Black
Cavelera Conspiracy - Inflikted
Overkill - Ironbound
Woe of Tyrants - Kingdom of Might
Gwar - Lust In Space
Cormorant - Metazoa
God Dethroned - Passiondale
Necrodeath - Phylogenesis
Ramp - Ramp Live
Deathrow - Riders of Doom
Sepultura - Schizophrenia
Slayer - Show No Mercy
Amorphis - Skyforger
Obituary - Slowly We Rot
Redemption - Snowfall On Judgment Day
Blood Red Throne - Souls of Damnation
Death - Spiritual Healing
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
Asst. - Take Me Home Country Roads
Wolf - The Black Flame
Wretched - The Exodus of Autonomy
Between the Buried and Me - The Great Misdirect
Ministry - The Last Dubber
Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
Asst. - Treasures of Great Music
Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Celtic Frost - Vanity/Nemesis
The Haunted - Versus
Nothingface - Violence
Uriah Heep - Wake the Sleeper
Warbringer - Waking Into Nightmares
Voivod - War and Pain
Five Finger Death Punch - War Is the Answer
Zimmers Hole - When You Were Shouting at the Devil...
SG
> > The Slayer has been out for a few months now, I normally find any new
> > album
> > gets a bout of plays in the first 2-3 months then slips when new ones
> > come
> > in. I don`t think I`ve played it for a couple of weeks myself.- Hide
> > quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I don't think it has the longevity that the Megadeth album has, Slayer
> dropped off my playlist within 2 or 3 weeks of first hearing it,
> whereas the Deth along with Kreator, Candlemass, Municipal Waste and
> Shrinebuilder is still getting played now.
Shrinebuilder? I`ve never even heard of them.
>I am still playing WPB. It is also my most played album of the last 3
>months (via Last.fm) by a very large margin. The Kreator hasn't been
>played for ages nor is it likely to get a spin. Out of those you
>mentioned only the Candlemass gets regular spins.
>I am mixing playing the best stuff from 09, with some new stuff from
>10. So far I have found some excellent releases and only one real
>disappointment. If things continue at this rate 10 is going to be a
>phenomenal year.
>E.
>--
>2010 is already better than last year in every possible way......lets
>hope it continues.
Hmmm, I thought 2009 was one of the best years for metal in absolutely ages,
we clearly have different tastes! The only `10 album I`ve heard that`s any
good so far is Overkill although I haven`t really been looking for much.
Just checked and I haven`t played WPB since boxing day whereas albums by
Megadeth, Drudkh, Blut Aus Nord and Kreator are still getting spins into the
new year. Played the new Immortal this morning as well.
It took me months to get really excited about more than one or two
releases. Whereas this year I have heard 7 things already that I have
thoroughly enjoyed. A couple of albums I am not digging. but I suspect
one will get a respin. As for the rest (I have 13 new releases so
far) one is a live album which was enjoyable and others need a proper
listen. So overall a damned good start, far better than last year and
I comparing 15 days to about 3 months here.
>The only `10 album I`ve heard that`s any
> good so far is Overkill although I haven`t really been looking for much.
I have just picked up the odd thing here and there. What's been a
pleasant surprise is that most of the new things I am liking are from
new bands (to me anyway).
> Just checked and I haven`t played WPB since boxing day whereas albums by
> Megadeth, Drudkh, Blut Aus Nord and Kreator are still getting spins into the
> new year. Played the new Immortal this morning as well.
I have WPB in the car and I can't seeing it being taken out for ages
yet. I still have The Formation of Damnation in there which isn't
moving either.
E.
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Love Witchery.
> High On Fire - Death is This Communion
> Dying Fetus - Descend Into Depravity
> Evile - Enter the Grave
> Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
> Herald - Heavy Metal Wakes the Beast
> Brides of Destruction - Here Comes the Bride
> 3 Inches of Blood - Here Waits Thy Doom
> Death - Human
> Kittie - In the Black
Hmm you deserve shit for this..;-)
> Cavelera Conspiracy - Inflikted
> Overkill - Ironbound
> Woe of Tyrants - Kingdom of Might
Two good picks here. No not the CC.
> Gwar - Lust In Space
> Cormorant - Metazoa
The first song from this album is amazing, probably one of the most
catchiest songs I have heard in ages. Shame the rest of the album
couldn't keep up to that high standard, cause if they did, Cormorant
would have made my top 20 easily, probably top 10.
> God Dethroned - Passiondale
> Necrodeath - Phylogenesis
> Ramp - Ramp Live
> Deathrow - Riders of Doom
> Sepultura - Schizophrenia
> Slayer - Show No Mercy
> Amorphis - Skyforger
This took me by surprise, but apparently it's wrong to like wishy
washy rubbish like this.
> Obituary - Slowly We Rot
> Redemption - Snowfall On Judgment Day
> Blood Red Throne - Souls of Damnation
> Death - Spiritual Healing
> Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
> Asst. - Take Me Home Country Roads
> Wolf - The Black Flame
> Wretched - The Exodus of Autonomy
> Between the Buried and Me - The Great Misdirect
> Ministry - The Last Dubber
> Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
> Asst. - Treasures of Great Music
> Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
> Celtic Frost - Vanity/Nemesis
> The Haunted - Versus
> Nothingface - Violence
> Uriah Heep - Wake the Sleeper
> Warbringer - Waking Into Nightmares
> Voivod - War and Pain
> Five Finger Death Punch - War Is the Answer
> Zimmers Hole - When You Were Shouting at the Devil...
Some good picks there.
I`m d/l the new Heathen, Arsis and Exodus albums at the moment. I`m playing
the new Fear Factory but it`s touch and go whether I`ll bother till the
end...didn`t like the Ihsahn and liked the Overkill a lot. That`s it for `10
and me so far! I just never fell for the last Testament album, just checked
Lastfm and I only played it twice all last year...and according to itunes
it`s only got a dozen listens in total from me.
> Kittie - In the Black
> Hmm you deserve shit for this..;-)
Indeed, I only vaguely remember this shitty band from about 10 years
back...have they changed for the better or something?
> Cavelera Conspiracy - Inflikted
> Overkill - Ironbound
> Woe of Tyrants - Kingdom of Might
> Two good picks here. No not the CC.
The Overkill is awesome...I didn`t think you were a fan.
> Gwar - Lust In Space
> Cormorant - Metazoa
>The first song from this album is amazing, probably one of the most
>catchiest songs I have heard in ages. Shame the rest of the album
>couldn't keep up to that high standard, cause if they did, Cormorant
>would have made my top 20 easily, probably top 10.
I liked this album but only ever played it the once.
> God Dethroned - Passiondale
> Necrodeath - Phylogenesis
> Ramp - Ramp Live
> Deathrow - Riders of Doom
> Sepultura - Schizophrenia
> Slayer - Show No Mercy
> Amorphis - Skyforger
>This took me by surprise, but apparently it's wrong to like wishy
>washy rubbish like this.
I was going to post something about how there`s nothing wrong with different
tastes and the such but fuck it NO. There *is* something wrong with liking
this wishy washy rubbish ;-)
I know I`m in the minority ( well, e agrees with me and I`d certainly
presume TJ ) but I thought this sucked complete donkey balls.
I made it to track 4 of the new Fear Factory. It`s not bad or anything just
not something that really does anything for me anymore. I used to really
like Demanufacture back in `95 or whenever it came out but nowadays...meh.
Don`t need anything more that sounds like this.
> >Overkill-Immortalis
> >Defiance-The Prophecy
> >Megadeth-Endgame (got to say, I like this a lot more now than the
> >first few times)
>
> The Slayer has been out for a few months now, I normally find any new album
> gets a bout of plays in the first 2-3 months then slips when new ones come
> in. I don`t think I`ve played it for a couple of weeks myself.
True, but after a slow start with Megadeth, I've been listening to
Endgame 1 or 2 times a week.
I'll listen to the Slayer again, but I don't see it getting the sort
of play Endgame is.
Tom
> >--
> >2010 is already better than last year in every possible way......lets
> >hope it continues.
>
> Hmmm, I thought 2009 was one of the best years for metal in absolutely ages,
2009 was good for metal, but I've had better years.
Tom
> > Amorphis - Skyforger
>
> This took me by surprise, but apparently it's wrong to like wishy
> washy rubbish like this
You don't listen to music to please others, so no excuse. I liked
the album a lot. I don't care what anyone else says or thinks about
it.
Tom
> I made it to track 4 of the new Fear Factory. It`s not bad or anything just
> not something that really does anything for me anymore. I used to really
> like Demanufacture back in `95 or whenever it came out but nowadays...meh.
> Don`t need anything more that sounds like this.
Agreed on Demanufacture.
Tom
I am listening to the Arsis now and was one of the ones I wanted to
check out. It's got potential, so add that to my list of good
releases for this year.
>I`m playing
> the new Fear Factory but it`s touch and go whether I`ll bother till the
> end...didn`t like the Ihsahn and liked the Overkill a lot. That`s it for `10
> and me so far! I just never fell for the last Testament album, just checked
> Lastfm and I only played it twice all last year...and according to itunes
> it`s only got a dozen listens in total from me.
Not got the FF yet, nor am I likely to. I might check them out on the
interweb, but I am not wasting bandwidth on a band I grew bored with
years ago.
As for the Testament it's been in my car since it came out. It's
certainly grown on me a lot.
E.
For me it was just okay, certainly nothing to get really excited
about.
E.
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Though there were a few releases to get excited about.
I have no idea. I have no desire to find out if they have changed.
>
> > Cavelera Conspiracy - Inflikted
> > Overkill - Ironbound
> > Woe of Tyrants - Kingdom of Might
> > Two good picks here. No not the CC.
>
> The Overkill is awesome...I didn`t think you were a fan.
I have never been a major fan, however I do like the new one. A lot.
>
> > Gwar - Lust In Space
> > Cormorant - Metazoa
> >The first song from this album is amazing, probably one of the most
> >catchiest songs I have heard in ages. Shame the rest of the album
> >couldn't keep up to that high standard, cause if they did, Cormorant
> >would have made my top 20 easily, probably top 10.
>
> I liked this album but only ever played it the once.
>
> > God Dethroned - Passiondale
> > Necrodeath - Phylogenesis
> > Ramp - Ramp Live
> > Deathrow - Riders of Doom
> > Sepultura - Schizophrenia
> > Slayer - Show No Mercy
> > Amorphis - Skyforger
> >This took me by surprise, but apparently it's wrong to like wishy
> >washy rubbish like this.
>
> I was going to post something about how there`s nothing wrong with different
> tastes and the such but fuck it NO. There *is* something wrong with liking
> this wishy washy rubbish ;-)
>
> I know I`m in the minority ( well, e agrees with me and I`d certainly
> presume TJ ) but I thought this sucked complete donkey balls.
I wouldn't expect you like something that was well written, with
decent production and some outstanding material. I even enjoyed the
clean vocals on it. However you have just proven my point about
trying to rip apart what others like. Why do you think I haven't
mentioned any of the new stuff that I really like, because I know as
soon as I do, you'll just try and rip it to shreds....as per normal.
E.
--
I have never listened to something to please others, however I am just
repeating what Ian said about it and how wrong I am.
>I liked the album a lot. I don't care what anyone else says or thinks about
> it.
Agreed. Like ian slagging it off, suddenly makes the scales drop from
my eyes.
E.
--
Care?
Well I did put a winky face after it...I wouldn`t expect you to give a shit
what I think of an album you like, same as I don`t care when you rip the
piss out of me for listening to Blind Guardian and Gamma Ray!
>E.
>--
>Care?
You hang off my every word.
Who are you. Are you bob?
E.
It just seems strange that just every single album that I liked and
recommended over the last.....probably 6 months if not longer has just
been met with derision from you.
E.
--
The recommendation trail has dried up.
I have Woe of Tyrants, Cormorant & Hypocrisy in my `09 file from your
recommendations and may not have got round to checking out the last God
Dethroned if it hadn`t been for yourself praising it ( a band that had
fallen away for me previously ). And I should have listened to you before
pre-ordering that last Evile album!!
I could say much the same to you, would have thought you`d have liked
Drudkh, Wodensthrone and Bornholm more than you did. The only `new`
recommendation of mine I can remember you liking this year was Fleshgod
Apocalypse.
It's just a perception that has grown over the last 6 months and seems
to have gotten worse.
>
> I could say much the same to you, would have thought you`d have liked
> Drudkh, Wodensthrone and Bornholm more than you did.
I did try with those, but I think I was nearing the end of BM phase
and only a few made an impression on me. More than I expected to be
honest. I have tried one new atmospheric BM album this year and it
didn't do anything for me.
>The only `new` recommendation of mine I can remember you liking this year was Fleshgod
> Apocalypse.
Yes but you're constant praising of other bands kept them, if briefly
in my spot light and they got more plays than they would have normally
got. Ie Mastodon, Megadeth, Augury and probably a few others.
E.
> Well I did put a winky face after it...I wouldn`t expect you to give a shit
> what I think of an album you like, same as I don`t care when you rip the
> piss out of me for listening to Blind Guardian and Gamma Ray!
This group is a bunch of pussies ;)
There should be MORE ripping each other about musical tastes, not
less.
You are a fag for liking Blind Guardian.
e.
--
hit me with your best shot!
When was the last time you posted up a play list, so we can rip the
shit out of you?
E.
--
Well, I can put my hand on my heart and honestly say I don`t deliberately go
out of my way to dis-like something that you`ve recommended!! That said...I
wasn`t too struck on this new Arsis...seemed a lot more straight forward
than their older stuff and even a bit cheesey.
ABBA
I personally prefer the Slayer to the 'deth..
SG
> > Kittie - In the Black
>
> Hmm you deserve shit for this..;-)
Perhaps :P, but there is a couple of decent tracks on it.
>
> > Cavelera Conspiracy - Inflikted
> > Overkill - Ironbound
> > Woe of Tyrants - Kingdom of Might
>
> Two good picks here. No not the CC.
It's better than anything the Cavelera brothers did
when they weren't together. My feelings, anyway...
SG
Listen to "My Plague" off their latest. Tell me what you think?
SG
You're mama wears army boots..
SG (Pffft...)
> > Kittie - In the Black
>
> Hmm you deserve shit for this..;-)
>Perhaps :P, but there is a couple of decent tracks on it.
>
> > Cavelera Conspiracy - Inflikted
> > Overkill - Ironbound
> > Woe of Tyrants - Kingdom of Might
>
> Two good picks here. No not the CC.
>It's better than anything the Cavelera brothers did
>when they weren't together. My feelings, anyway...
I`d certainly agree with that...although saying something is better than the
last 15 years of Sepultura and Soulfly is hardly a compliment!
It`s definately better than I remember them but still not something I`d
play...sounds like a cross between a mid paced melodeath ( Arch Enemyish )
band and Lamb of God.
The last decent thing either of them did was Arise.
E.
> >The only `new` recommendation of mine I can remember you liking this year was Fleshgod
> > Apocalypse.
>
> Yes but you're constant praising of other bands kept them, if briefly
> in my spot light and they got more plays than they would have normally
> got. Ie Mastodon, Megadeth, Augury and probably a few others.
>
> E.
All of those are good stuff.
Tom
> > > Kittie - In the Black
> > > Hmm you deserve shit for this..;-)
>
> > Indeed, I only vaguely remember this shitty band from about 10 years
> > back...have they changed for the better or something?
>
> Listen to "My Plague" off their latest. Tell me what you think?
>
> SG
I don't like vocals like this.
Tom
> > > Kittie - In the Black
> > > Hmm you deserve shit for this..;-)
>
> > Indeed, I only vaguely remember this shitty band from about 10 years
> > back...have they changed for the better or something?
> >Listen to "My Plague" off their latest. Tell me what you think?
>
> It`s definately better than I remember them but still not something I`d
> play...sounds like a cross between a mid paced melodeath ( Arch Enemyish )
> band and Lamb of God.
I sort of agree with Ian here.
Tom
Well I tried with all of them, and probably only the Augury I regarded
as half decent.
E.
--
> > > Well I did put a winky face after it...I wouldn`t expect you to give a shit
> > > what I think of an album you like, same as I don`t care when you rip the
> > > piss out of me for listening to Blind Guardian and Gamma Ray!
>
> > This group is a bunch of pussies ;)
>
> > There should be MORE ripping each other about musical tastes, not
> > less.
>
> > You are a fag for liking Blind Guardian.
>
> > e.
> > --
> > hit me with your best shot!
>
> When was the last time you posted up a play list, so we can rip the
> shit out of you?
My playlists have been extremely boring lately, almost no new music.
Last couple of days:
* Depeche Mode - violator, black celebration
* Kyuss - blues for the red sun
* Dream Theatre - six degrees of separation
* Killing Joke - s/t, extremities...
* Korpiklaani - voice of the wilderness
* Cryptopsy - blasphemy made flesh
* diSEMBOWELMENT - dusk EP
* Radiohead - the bends
* Cynic - focus
* Bolt Thrower - those once loyal
* Revolting Cocks - linger fickin good
* Faith No More - king for a day...
* Jethro Tull - songs of the wood
Rip away!
e.
--
do eet!
Seriously? ABBA is the best you can do?
e.
--
how about cold lake?
>Seriously? ABBA is the best you can do?
The very fact you consider ABBA acceptable says more than I need to.
>e.
>--
>how about cold lake?
I thought that would be below the belt!
What, hell I though enough of the Mastodon to name it my aoty for
last year. The Megadeth, I've probably racked up 25 listens to. The
Augury about 10. But I am not so much into DM of late.
Tom
NP-CF-to Mega Therion
> > >hit me with your best shot!
>
> > ABBA
> >Seriously? ABBA is the best you can do?
>
> The very fact you consider ABBA acceptable says more than I need to.
If you want that sort of pop music stuff, then I guess it's
acceptable. I know they were very big when I was a kid for a couple
years. So yeah, I do remember hearing several of their songs on the
radio. And anything you heard a lot as a kid is stuff you probably
still can remember well when and if ever you hear it.
> >e.
> >--
> >how about cold lake?
>
> I thought that would be below the belt!
Cheap shots are often made on AMS. I don't think that would be below
the belt, he did say he likes it, some, recently.
Tom
Mastodon and Megadeth were my 2 albums of the year...closely followed by
Kreator, another album E has suggested disappointment with. We do seem miles
apart musically at the moment!
Whilst I didn`t think Augury was as good as Obscura and certainly not as
good as Anaal Nathrakh* it was still one of the best death metal albums of
the year.
* if this can be described as such, difficult band to pigeon hole. Other
than noisy bastards.
> > >hit me with your best shot!
>
> > ABBA
> >Seriously? ABBA is the best you can do?
>
> The very fact you consider ABBA acceptable says more than I need to.
> If you want that sort of pop music stuff, then I guess it's
>acceptable. I know they were very big when I was a kid for a couple
>years. So yeah, I do remember hearing several of their songs on the
>radio. And anything you heard a lot as a kid is stuff you probably
>still can remember well when and if ever you hear it.
Very big for a couple of years?? I think you`ll find ABBA are one of the
biggest selling acts of all time.
> >how about cold lake?
>
> I thought that would be below the belt!
> Cheap shots are often made on AMS. I don't think that would be below
>the belt, he did say he likes it, some, recently.
I can`t think of any other album to disappoint me so...ever.
> > >how about cold lake?
>
> > I thought that would be below the belt!
>
> Cheap shots are often made on AMS. I don't think that would be below
> the belt, he did say he likes it, some, recently.
Pfff. I deserve every bit of flak I get for listening to Cold Lake.
It's awful. I just have a weakness for particular types of really bad
music, and Cold Lake fits that niche. Even then, it only gets spun
once every few years.
I just find it funny how defensive people get when their favorite
bands get ragged on. This happens as much or more in metal circles
(where it is fashionable to show how much one doesn't care about what
others think) as it does in other genres.
And sometimes we deserve to have our music ragged on. One of my
favorite bands is The Jesus Lizard, and there is _no way_ I could
defend them as "good music" by any rationalization. They're _awful_,
and I love every record!
e.
--
a spade is a spade
Shit
> * Killing Joke - s/t, extremities...
Fairly shit. Yeah yeah heresy I know..../care.
> * Korpiklaani - voice of the wilderness
So shit.
> * Radiohead - the bends
Shitty as shitty thing on a shitty stick.
> * Cynic - focus
> * Bolt Thrower - those once loyal
> * Revolting Cocks - linger fickin good
> * Faith No More - king for a day...
> * Jethro Tull - songs of the wood
No shit here.
> Rip away!
>
> e.
> --
> do eet!
E.
--
Shit?
How do think I am going to react to the above statement....do you
think suddenly I'll suddenly start liking it? Does reacting to a
statement with incredulity change the original statement?
Very bizarre.
E.
--
When I compare HoC to EoG, it's not as good and I am fairly bored with
it. I would say I still like it, but not as much as I initially did.
The only real negative thing I have said about it recently is that it
would drop down my AotY list if I redid it. It would probably drop
down to about 9th place.
As for Megedeth and Mastodon, I have been fairly consistent with my
comments on those. Both I gave more listens to than I really should
have. I wasn't disappointed in either, as I never had any
expectations in them in the first place.
> We do seem miles apart musically at the moment!
Which is why I am not making any recommendations. All of the stuff I
am really liking at the moment, is all stuff with melody, decent
productions and from genres I know I like. Anything too raw or noisy,
just doesn't do it for me. I checked out a band that the fat hack
gave a decent write up to, but there were only a few parts that I
either noticed or liked, the rest were just not memorable enough.
>
> Whilst I didn`t think Augury was as good as Obscura and certainly not as
> good as Anaal Nathrakh* it was still one of the best death metal albums of
> the year.
Daath are bubbling under my 09 top 20, but last year Insomnium got the
best DM album from me, with Woe Of Tyrants, Hypocrisy, God Dethroned,
Be'Lakor, Aeon of Horus and Necrophobic all making a good impression.
There are a few albums that have made other peoples AotY lists that
either I hadn't heard or need to check again. No, not from any list
posted here...;-)
E.
--
> > What, hell I though enough of the Mastodon to name it my aoty for
> >last year. The Megadeth, I've probably racked up 25 listens to. The
> >Augury about 10. But I am not so much into DM of late.
>
> Mastodon and Megadeth were my 2 albums of the year...closely followed by
> Kreator, another album E has suggested disappointment with. We do seem miles
> apart musically at the moment!
>
> Whilst I didn`t think Augury was as good as Obscura and certainly not as
> good as Anaal Nathrakh* it was still one of the best death metal albums of
> the year.
>
> * if this can be described as such, difficult band to pigeon hole. Other
> than noisy bastards.
Noisy bastards? I prefer miserable bastards.
Tom
> > If you want that sort of pop music stuff, then I guess it's
> >acceptable. I know they were very big when I was a kid for a couple
> >years. So yeah, I do remember hearing several of their songs on the
> >radio. And anything you heard a lot as a kid is stuff you probably
> >still can remember well when and if ever you hear it.
>
> Very big for a couple of years?? I think you`ll find ABBA are one of the
> biggest selling acts of all time.
They didn't import to the US quite so well. I know they had a few
hits in the US, but I believe they were waaayyy more massive overseas
than here.
> > >how about cold lake?
>
> > I thought that would be below the belt!
> > Cheap shots are often made on AMS. I don't think that would be below
> >the belt, he did say he likes it, some, recently.
>
> I can`t think of any other album to disappoint me so...ever.
My disappointment with some albums like, say Turbo. Probably as
much.
Tom
> > Cheap shots are often made on AMS. I don't think that would be below
> > the belt, he did say he likes it, some, recently.
>
> Pfff. I deserve every bit of flak I get for listening to Cold Lake.
> It's awful. I just have a weakness for particular types of really bad
> music, and Cold Lake fits that niche. Even then, it only gets spun
> once every few years.
Some day, some day I may actually hear that.
> I just find it funny how defensive people get when their favorite
> bands get ragged on.
Sometimes it's well deserved.
>This happens as much or more in metal circles
> (where it is fashionable to show how much one doesn't care about what
> others think) as it does in other genres.
True, but I do listen to whatever I like, even if others dislike it
so.
> And sometimes we deserve to have our music ragged on. One of my
> favorite bands is The Jesus Lizard, and there is _no way_ I could
> defend them as "good music" by any rationalization. They're _awful_,
> and I love every record!
>
> e.
> --
> a spade is a spade
Yet another band I don't remember ever hearing.
Tom
> > > Well I tried with all of them, and probably only the Augury I regarded
> > > as half decent.
>
> > > E.
> > > --
>
> > What, hell I though enough of the Mastodon to name it my aoty for
> > last year.
>
> How do think I am going to react to the above statement....do you
> think suddenly I'll suddenly start liking it? Does reacting to a
> statement with incredulity change the original statement?
>
> Very bizarre.
>
> E.
> --
No, I don't think or care if you like it. I was just saying, that's
all.
Tom
What you're missing. Nothing in your opinion.
It's the way you said it I just found very bizarre, it just read as
"how dare he say something like that", especially with the "what,
hell". As though it came as a surprise that I don't like those
albums.
I am sure Ian said when Crack was released something along the lines
of "How anyone that likes metal can't like this is beyond me". One of
those definitive statements..;-)
>
> Tom
>
> What you're missing. Nothing in your opinion.
This is correct. Neither do anything for me and won't ever be played
again.
E.
--
> > * Cynic - focus
> > * Bolt Thrower - those once loyal
> > * Revolting Cocks - linger fickin good
> > * Faith No More - king for a day...
> > * Jethro Tull - songs of the wood
>
> No shit here.
Never took you for a RC fan. Thought you'd hate them.
Any favorite album?
e.
--
the inquisitor
The only album I know of theirs is Cocked and Loaded, which I thought
was fairly good. I have also heard the odd song here and there and
wasn't put off them.
E.
--
Though I doubt I'll ever be a major fan.
> > If you want that sort of pop music stuff, then I guess it's
> >acceptable. I know they were very big when I was a kid for a couple
> >years. So yeah, I do remember hearing several of their songs on the
> >radio. And anything you heard a lot as a kid is stuff you probably
> >still can remember well when and if ever you hear it.
>
> Very big for a couple of years?? I think you`ll find ABBA are one of the
> biggest selling acts of all time.
> They didn't import to the US quite so well. I know they had a few
>hits in the US, but I believe they were waaayyy more massive overseas
>than here.
I just checked...the only artists to have sold more albums worldwide in the
history of music are The Beatles, Elvis and Michael Jackson. Queen are 5th.
> > >how about cold lake?
>
> > I thought that would be below the belt!
> > Cheap shots are often made on AMS. I don't think that would be below
> >the belt, he did say he likes it, some, recently.
>
> I can`t think of any other album to disappoint me so...ever.
> My disappointment with some albums like, say Turbo. Probably as
>much.
Actually, the most disappointed I can ever remember being with an album was
the Black album. When the last track started off like it might finally
thrash a bit and then slowed down to the same mid pace of the rest of the
album I felt quite deflated!
I liked the Heathen, but it's not a patch on the Overkill which is the
best 2010 release I've heard so far.