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Bands that have introduced metal to millions of "shitheads"

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Cornholio

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Oct 20, 2009, 10:14:33 PM10/20/09
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As I was driving home today thinking about my endless job search and
being depressed about it. I started thinking about how listening to
metal always makes me feel better especially fade to black when I'm
feeling down. After listening to that song I started thinking about
bands that probably 99% of metalheads started out on.

Black Sabbath
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Metallica
Pantera - definitely my least favorite of this list but they were the
biggest metal band to break in the 90's

I think it's fair to say almost all metalheads listened to one of those
bands first they liked it a lot and then started listening to other
bands and then going deep into it after that. With the nature of the
music industry changing due to the net do anyone think there will be
another well known metal band to come along and bring millions of new
fans into metal? Time will tell, holler if you think I left any out.

John

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Oct 21, 2009, 6:41:57 PM10/21/09
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"Cornholio" <t...@mybunghole.net> wrote in message
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Well, I'd add in Zeppelin regardless of if they are metal or not. Same with
Kiss.
As for the next big thing, I think it would have to be a band that thumbs
itselft at the established music scene, whatever that is today. For most of
us that was Metallica so will there be another like this? If so I fear it
will be a Manson/Slipknot ordeal.
--
John (my first metal was Priest and Sabbath)


james ambuehl

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Oct 21, 2009, 7:45:23 PM10/21/09
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Mine was Alice Cooper and Kiss, then a very short time later onto Led
Zep and Rush and Angel (remember them?)

-- Jim

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Oct 21, 2009, 8:01:54 PM10/21/09
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> bands that probably 99% of metalheads started out on.
>
> Black Sabbath
> Iron Maiden
> Judas Priest
> Metallica
> Pantera - definitely my least favorite of this list but they were the
> biggest metal band to break in the 90's

Probably true. I know it was BS for me, although JP and IM followed
along real soon.

> I think it's fair to say almost all metalheads listened to one of those
> bands first they liked it a lot and then started listening to other
> bands and then going deep into it after that. With the nature of the
> music industry changing due to the net do anyone think there will be
> another well known metal band to come along and bring millions of new
> fans into metal? Time will tell, holler if you think I left any out.

It's hard to say, because metal bands similar to the above do not
sell like the above did back in the day.
However, if some metal band has 10,000,000 visits to their myspace
page and 20,000,000 plays, their music may be as well known to the
younger set as those bands above were to their times.

Tom


Cornholio

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Oct 21, 2009, 8:32:34 PM10/21/09
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I was wondering when someone would bring up Zeppelin we could say that
they were "proto-metal" and did have a big influence on the genre. Yeah
I did leave out nu-metal and such because I don't really consider it
metal per se and fans of that stuff typically don't get into older stuff
like sabbath and slayer. They're generally not typical "metalheads" in
my opinion.

Cornholio

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Oct 21, 2009, 8:59:07 PM10/21/09
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Yeah I definitely dont't know what the "younger set" is doing nowadays.
I'm constantly discovering new bands but I have no idea how popular they
are.

Soze

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Oct 22, 2009, 7:09:04 AM10/22/09
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"Cornholio" <t...@mybunghole.net> wrote in message
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I often read the Bloodstock festival forums and it`s all sortsof obscureish
bands that young kids seem to hear first, probably around a mate`s house or
browsing the web I guess.


Soze

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Oct 22, 2009, 7:13:02 AM10/22/09
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"Cornholio" <t...@mybunghole.net> wrote in message
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Think I`ve said this here before but here goes again...my sister is 7 years
older than me and was listening to a lot of rock and metal in the late
70`s...I distinctly remember her having albums like 2112, Paranoid, Highway
to Hell, A Night at the Opera, Led Zep 4 and Hello!...it was 2112 and
Paranoid that made a particular impression one me, especially 2112. When I
was 11 her boyfriend at the time gave me a tape with If You Want Blood and
Number of the Beast on it...the former didn`t do much for me but I played
Maiden to death...the following year Piece of Mind was the first metal album
I ever remember buying. Started to look out for music myself and got really
into Dio, WASP, Manowar, Twisted Sister...in `85 bought Bonded By Blood as I
liked the cover and that changed everything...Hell Awaits and Ride the
Lightning followed and I was hooked on thrash.


Cornholio

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Oct 22, 2009, 7:06:46 PM10/22/09
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Well you started with two of the bands really Sabbath and Maiden. I
personally started with Master Of Puppets and then the rest of their
catalog, then shortly onto Megadeth and other thrash and then into more
sub-genres of metal.

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Oct 22, 2009, 7:36:46 PM10/22/09
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On Oct 21, 6:59 pm, Cornholio <t...@mybunghole.net> wrote:

Probably not very. Seems like 90% of what I buy, if I see numbers
later, it will be something ghastly like 455 sold in the US the first
week. Mustaine should quit bitching about presumed lack of sales. If
Endgame opened up with, say 4,000 sold the first week, then, yeah,
he'd have a point.

Tom

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Oct 22, 2009, 7:37:44 PM10/22/09
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Still am.

Tom

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Oct 22, 2009, 7:38:48 PM10/22/09
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> Well you started with two of the bands really Sabbath and Maiden. I
> personally started with Master Of Puppets and then the rest of their
> catalog, then shortly onto Megadeth and other thrash and then into more
> sub-genres of metal.

You must be quite a bit younger than Ian, and he's a few years
younger than I am.

Tom

The dinosaur here

Cornholio

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:06:09 PM10/22/09
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Probably true I'm 31.

dclizardking

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Oct 23, 2009, 10:58:26 AM10/23/09
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> Lightning followed and I was hooked on thrash.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I had a very similar situation, my sister is 7 years older than I am
and her and her boyfriend listened to Maiden, Priest, Ozzy, Rainbow,
Rush, Van Halen, ACDC, etc. This was my way in to the metal scene,
although I also had a friend at school who was passing me cassettes of
these bands.

ACDC, Maiden, Ozzy/Sabbath, Wasp and Motley Crue were the first ones
to really take hold of me, however that same friend mentioned earlier
handed me a bootleg tape one day at school. This was metallica live at
the Old Waldorf from 1982, which I played to death. I went out and
bought Ride The Lightning, and Kill Em All on the strength of that
bootleg and they blew me away, after that I descended deeper and
deeper into the thrash scene. Eventually culminating in me discovering
all the crossover bands and a lot of the hardcore scene. I'm still
partial to a bit of Minor Threat, The Descendents or The Circle Jerks
even today.

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Oct 23, 2009, 5:45:10 PM10/23/09
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On Oct 22, 8:06 pm, Cornholio <t...@mybunghole.net> wrote:

Way younger than I am.

Tom

Cornholio

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Oct 23, 2009, 10:29:22 PM10/23/09
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Well since yoU're older than me, did you ever have any music on reel to
reel? I've heard that's the best way to hear it. Personally I owned two
LPs when I was a little kid started collecting music on cassette when I
was 11 and switched to cds at 13. And in recent years I've shifted the
vast majority of my listening to flac files at home and high quality
mp3s away from home. At least at 31 no one says to me "you're still just
a baby". I got that a lot in my 20's even though I was already bald.
Hell I started balding at 19.

John

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Oct 24, 2009, 8:22:07 AM10/24/09
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"Cornholio" <t...@mybunghole.net> wrote in message
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I know your pain...long hair doesn't look so good without the full quaff and
at the time (mid 80s) only shithead skinheads had the shaved head...and I
didn't like them even though I did like some of the music.

--
John


John

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Oct 24, 2009, 8:27:13 AM10/24/09
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"Cornholio" <t...@mybunghole.net> wrote in message
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I concur, although I will say at Ozzfest there seemed to be many into
mudvayne and just as many into maiden so we may wrong about the past bands
theory

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John


tom.m...@gmail.com

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Oct 24, 2009, 9:32:07 AM10/24/09
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> Well since yoU're older than me, did you ever have any music on reel to
> reel?

There was a reel to reel player in my home when I was a kid. yes.

> I've heard that's the best way to hear it. Personally I owned two
> LPs when I was a little kid started collecting music on cassette when I
> was 11 and switched to cds at 13. And in recent years I've shifted the
> vast majority of my listening to flac files at home and high quality
> mp3s away from home. At least at 31 no one says to me "you're still just
> a baby". I got that a lot in my 20's even though I was already bald.
> Hell I started balding at 19.

You're just a baby.

Tom

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Cornholio

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Oct 24, 2009, 5:35:27 PM10/24/09
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I guess I could be wrong if nu-metal does produce more metalheads hey
great.

Cornholio

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Oct 24, 2009, 5:37:23 PM10/24/09
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Thankfully by the time I started totally shaving my head which was about
six years ago it was perfectly acceptable for white males to shave their
heads, hell a lot of women even like it. I look ridiculous if I let my
hair grow at all really.

Cornholio

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Oct 24, 2009, 5:39:03 PM10/24/09
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I'm a baby and want my bottle wwwaaaahhh!!! So about the reel to reel
how was the overall sound quality if you remember it? I've heard reel to
reel is the absolute closest that you can get to the the sound of the
master studio tracks.

Wyrd

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Oct 25, 2009, 11:24:21 AM10/25/09
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Yeah Metallica were the band that got me, but it had nothing to do
with the music. I saw a cover and knew it would annoy the family
(other than my dad who's an old rocker anyway). So at a rather tender
age I insisted against the advice of the family that they purchase
Kill em All. From there I moved on to Slayer, and then went through
my dads collection and found LZ and the Sabbs. So that's how I
started on metal and following through on the LZ I checked out blues,
but a few years down the line. Through friends at school I also
listened to some classical music as well, though I only dipped my toes
here and there. That pretty much covers all my main music areas.

E.
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Cornholio

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Oct 25, 2009, 5:18:30 PM10/25/09
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It all started for me because I thought MOP had an awesome cover. I had
never even heard of metallica when I first heard it.

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Oct 25, 2009, 8:12:02 PM10/25/09
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Any evidence of that happening?

Tom

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Oct 25, 2009, 8:14:31 PM10/25/09
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> >   You're just a baby.
>
> > Tom
>
> > poke
>
> I'm a baby and want my bottle wwwaaaahhh!!! So about the reel to reel
> how was the overall sound quality if you remember it? I've heard reel to
> reel is the absolute closest that you can get to the the sound of the
> master studio tracks.

Like everything, it depends on the source tapes. I don't remember it
all that well, and I believe all the tape recordings were off of vinyl
albums, so I don't think the tapes we had were much of a tell. I
hardly remember it, though, hell it's been probably more than 25 years
ago since I probably last heard it. Maybe more years than that.

Tom

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Oct 25, 2009, 8:15:39 PM10/25/09
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On Oct 25, 3:18 pm, Cornholio <t...@mybunghole.net> wrote:
> Wyrd wrote:

> > E.
> > --
>
> It all started for me because I thought MOP had an awesome cover. I had
> never even heard of metallica when I first heard it.

How old were you when that happened? Out of diapers yet?

Tom

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Cornholio

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Oct 27, 2009, 10:03:09 PM10/27/09
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I was 11 so you know I was still crapping myself on a daily basis. I
just learned how to use the toilet last week. I'm very proud of myself
for this monumental accomplishment. On an unrelated note my friend's
band have just finished their first CD. He's giving me my copy in about
2 weeks. I'm really proud of the brainstorm me and him had to help
finance the recording of the album, he had friends give him like a
$10-$15 donation and he would put us on the thanks list. When I get the
finished product I'll figure out which websites he wants to upload to
and I'll post some links.

Cornholio

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Oct 27, 2009, 10:04:32 PM10/27/09
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Oh well no worries I'm generally pleased with the way high quality
digital music sounds, of course that's what I've always known so maybe I
don't know any better.

Cornholio

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Oct 27, 2009, 10:08:33 PM10/27/09
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The only evidence of this I've seen is when I've been dragged into Hot
Topic stores in the mall. I've seen a fair amount of Slayer, Maiden,
Metallica, Megadeth, and some other band's merch including shirts, cds,
and other things. So if whatever the hell the kids like gets them into
those bands and then onto other things I think it's a good thing. Hell
the first albums I bought on my own were Poison Open Up and Say Ahh and
Skid Row's self titled debut. They were hardly my introduction to any
sort of real metal but they opened the door for what was to come later
for me.

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Oct 28, 2009, 8:16:17 AM10/28/09
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> >   Any evidence of that happening?
>
> > Tom
>
> The only evidence of this I've seen is when I've been dragged into Hot
> Topic stores in the mall. I've seen a fair amount of Slayer, Maiden,
> Metallica, Megadeth, and some other band's merch including shirts, cds,
> and other things. So if whatever the hell the kids like gets them into
> those bands and then onto other things I think it's a good thing. Hell
> the first albums I bought on my own were Poison Open Up and Say Ahh and
> Skid Row's self titled debut. They were hardly my introduction to any
> sort of real metal but they opened the door for what was to come later
> for me.

I guess whatever it takes.

Tom

Wyrd

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Oct 28, 2009, 1:16:04 PM10/28/09
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On Oct 28, 2:03 am, Cornholio <t...@mybunghole.net> wrote:

Sounds good. We'll be sure to listen and give you shit..;-)

E.

John

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Oct 28, 2009, 6:30:14 PM10/28/09
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"Cornholio" <t...@mybunghole.net> wrote in message
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First 2 Skid Row albums are good

--
John


Cornholio

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Oct 28, 2009, 7:09:00 PM10/28/09
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I wouldn't have it any other way I'll be very interested to see what the
metal conissouers here think of it. I can describe their sound as a mix
of thrash, death, and grind metal elements with some modern touches.
Their biggest influences are Testament and Death and that really shows
in their sound. So it'll probably be right most people's here alley.

Wyrd

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Oct 28, 2009, 7:29:56 PM10/28/09
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Now that is a good mix of bands...\m/

E.
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Death and Testament fanboi

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Nov 5, 2009, 9:15:43 AM11/5/09
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On Oct 28, 5:29 pm, Wyrd <Wyr...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> > I wouldn't have it any other way I'll be very interested to see what the
> > metal conissouers here think of it. I can describe their sound as a mix
> > of thrash, death, and grind metal elements with some modern touches.
> > Their biggest influences are Testament and Death and that really shows
> > in their sound. So it'll probably be right most people's here alley.
>
> Now that is a good mix of bands...\m/
>
> E.
> --
> Death and Testament fanboi

Also a big fan of both.

Tom

BrutalNoodle

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:53:57 PM11/17/09
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No, the 2nd and 3rd are. The 1st is crap.

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