End of year stuff
Soze
I`ll disagree with it if I look back in a couple months time...
1. Endgame - Megadeth
2. Crack the Skye - Mastodon
3. Hordes of Chaos - Kreator
4. Microcosmos - Drudkh
5. In the Constellation of the Black Widow - Anaal Nathrakh
6. Ape Uprising! - Slough Feg
7. Memorium Vetusta II - Blut Aus Nord
8. Cosmogenesis - Obscura
9. World Painted Blood - Slayer
10. Black Cascade - Wolves in the Throne Room
11. Passiondale - God Dethroned
12. All Shall Fall - Immortal
13. Massive Aggressive - Municipal Waste
14. Death Magik Doom - Candlemass
15. Loss - Wodensthrone
16. Fragmentary Evidence - Augury
17. Those Whom the Gods Detest - Nile
18. Absu - Absu
19. Everything is Fire - Ulcerate
20. Marantha - Funeral Mist
21. Tales from the Grave in Space - Gama Bomb
22. Infini - Voivod
23. Foulest Semen of a Shattered Elite - Ruins of Beverast
24. From Afar - Ensiferum
25. Walpurgis Rites - Belphegor
Honorable mentions to a bunch more ( been a good year for
music )...Arckanum, Woe of Tyrants, Warbringer, De Magia Veterum, Temple of
Baal, Napalm Death, Destroyer 666, Dark Funeral....
Disappointments of the year -
1. The Devil You Know - Heaven and Hell
2. Infected Nations - Evile
3. Resurrection Macabre - Pestilence
The `where was I first time around` award goes to
The Arcane Odyssey - Sear Bliss 2007
And Deathspell Omega in general whom I`d always been aware of but never
really listened to much. Great band!
Top 15 most played bands of the year according to lastfm ( `cause I love a
geeky list! )...
1. Megadeth 966
2. Slayer 844
3. Iron Maiden 819
4. Voivod 641
5. Kreator 634
6. Nevermore 502
7. Manowar 474
8. Death 429
9. Municipal Waste 406
10. Black Sabbath 386
11. Slough Feg 371
12. Enslaved 369
13. Morbid Angel 333
13. Mastodon 333
15. Emperor 331
Wyrd
1. Candlemass - Death Magic Doom
2. Immortal - All Shall Fall
3. Insomnium - Across the Dark
4. Kreator - Hordes of Chaos
5. Amorphis - Skyforger
6. Slough Feg - The Ape Uprising
7. Slayer - World Painted Blood
8. Woe of Tyrants - Kingdom of Might
9. Gorgoroth - Quantos Possunt Ad Satanitatem Trahunt
10. Dream Theater - Black Clouds and Silver Linings
11. Blut Aus Nord - Memoria Vetusta II - Dialogue with the Stars
12. Hypocrisy - A Taste of Extreme Divinity
13. Absu - Absu
14. Be'Lakor - Stone's Reach
15. Aeon of Horus-The_Embodiment_of_Darkness_and_Light
16. God Dethroned - Passiondale
17. Necrophopic - Death to All
18. Pantheon I - Worlds I Create
19. Gama Bomb - Tales from the Grave in Space
20. Steel Panther - Feel the Steel (waits to see the metal snobs
reaction to this one with glee)
Rock albums and other stuff.
The Answer - Everyday Demons
Wolfmother - Cosmic Egg
Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Joe Bonamassa - The Ballad Of John Henry
Firebird - Grand Union
Chickenfoot - Chickenfoot
Kiss - Sonic Boom
Astra - The Weirding
From Last FM most played over the last 12 months.
1. Iron Maiden
2. Slayer
3. Led Zeppelin
4. Pink Floyd
5. Metallica
6. Rainbow
7. Opeth
8. Dream Theater
9. Woe of Tyrants
10. Amorphis
11. Candlemass
12. Slough Feg
13. Immortal
14. Thin Lizzy
15. Iced Earth
Overall 2009 was a fairly shit year for me and I am glad it's behind
me now. I won't spew forth with the cliché's that my music helped me
though the year as that would just be bullshit. I made it through the
year due to my stubbornness and sheer bloodymindedness not to let
things get me down. Looking at the music, there have been some
fantastic new releases, but after my top 20, I would struggle to find
much to really talk about or enjoy, though there are a few that I have
recently got that are bubbling under (Overkill and Dark Funeral). Any
of those in my top 20 make it into my album of the decade list,
probably only the Candlemass stands a chance. Those other bands close
to the top have released better in the last 10 years. (Close means
Immortal, Insomnium, Kreator).
E.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> 3. Insomnium - Across the Dark
I dig this album a good deal. Probably have gave it 20 listens in
about 3-4 weeks time.
> 10. Dream Theater - Black Clouds and Silver Linings
I liked it some, but I believe I may have played it 5 total times. I
played their previous album a lot more.
> 20. Steel Panther - Feel the Steel (waits to see the metal snobs
> reaction to this one with glee)
I guess it's fun, I never really actually listened to it.
> Porcupine Tree - The Incident
This is a top 5 most played album of 2009, even though it was
released sort of late in the year.
> 1. Iron Maiden
I don't believe I have played a IM album all year long.
> Overall 2009 was a fairly shit year for me and I am glad it's behind
> me now.
> E.
2009 was no picnic for me either. I hope 2010 is better for you.
Tom
Soze
>"Wyrd" <Wyr...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>1. Candlemass - Death Magic Doom
Didn`t realise you`d fallen for this so much. I played it a lot when it came
out and there was no doubt it would make my top 20 but in the last 4-5
months probbaly only played it a couple of times.
>2. Immortal - All Shall Fall
I`m a tad disappointed with this in retrospect but it`s still an album I
like a lot.
>3. Insomnium - Across the Dark
I really should love Insomnium considering their obvious influences and that
everyone else into this sort of stuff loves them but I just can`t get into
them for some reason *shrugs*. I`ve tried.
>4. Kreator - Hordes of Chaos
>5. Amorphis - Skyforger
>6. Slough Feg - The Ape Uprising
>7. Slayer - World Painted Blood
3 of these will feature in most of our top 10`s I reckon.
>8. Woe of Tyrants - Kingdom of Might
This was another that fell away for me but it came within a gnat`s tit of
the top 25 still. I sometimes think these lists would be better done 6
months into the following year...albums fresher in my mind may do better
than some that came out earlier in the year.
>9. Gorgoroth - Quantos Possunt Ad Satanitatem Trahunt
Tried again with this and it still left me cold. It`s been well received
though, seems to be just me. I thought there were a lot of considerably
better black metal releases personally*.
>10. Dream Theater - Black Clouds and Silver Linings
>11. Blut Aus Nord - Memoria Vetusta II - Dialogue with the Stars
*Such as this! An incredible album IMO.
>12. Hypocrisy - A Taste of Extreme Divinity
>13. Absu - Absu
>14. Be'Lakor - Stone's Reach
This was another acclaimed melodeath album I couldn`t get into. Don`t know
if I`m just tired of the genre or something. Hypocrisy were bubbling under
and the Absu is great.
>15. Aeon of Horus-The_Embodiment_of_Darkness_and_Light
>16. God Dethroned - Passiondale
The God Dethroned is one I`ve contiually come back to...may be their best
album.
>17. Necrophopic - Death to All
>18. Pantheon I - Worlds I Create
I thought these 2 were distinctly average. Ho hum, I`m sure you could pick
out stuff from my list you felt the same about.
>19. Gama Bomb - Tales from the Grave in Space
>20. Steel Panther - Feel the Steel (waits to see the metal snobs
>reaction to this one with glee)
I`ve only ever heard / seen the promo video thing which I thought was quite
funny. Not really my cup of tea to seek out and listen to further but if you
like it I`m not going to slate you for it! Gama Bomb are tremendous fun...I
almost like them as much as Municipal Waste out of these retro thrash bands.
>Overall 2009 was a fairly shit year for me and I am glad it's behind
>me now. I won't spew forth with the clich�'s that my music helped me
>though the year as that would just be bullshit. I made it through the
>year due to my stubbornness and sheer bloodymindedness not to let
>things get me down. Looking at the music, there have been some
>fantastic new releases, but after my top 20, I would struggle to find
>much to really talk about or enjoy, though there are a few that I have
>recently got that are bubbling under (Overkill and Dark Funeral). Any
>of those in my top 20 make it into my album of the decade list,
>probably only the Candlemass stands a chance. Those other bands close
>to the top have released better in the last 10 years. (Close means
>Immortal, Insomnium, Kreator).
Overkill is 2010 anyway strictly speaking. I only played Dark Funeral a
couple of times but it was pretty good...I`ve found so much good black metal
lately that `good` wasn`t quite good enough. Been playing lots of the back
catalogue by Blut Aus Nord, Deathspell Omega and Drudkh. Top 20 of the
decade? The top 3 of my list would all be candidates for me...tough call
though. There are a few bands that couple well sew up the list between
them...I`d have most of Enslaved`s releases in there for sure.
Soze
"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 2, 7:28 am, Wyrd <Wyr...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> I don't believe I have played a IM album all year long.
I`ve already played one this year! Out of all bands I think Maiden will be
one I`ll always return to frequently.
Soze
"Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> There are a few bands that couple well sew up the list between them
What nonsense have I written here?! I`ll try again...
There are a few bands that will sew up the list between them
Wyrd
> On Jan 2, 7:28 am, Wyrd <Wyr...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > 3. Insomnium - Across the Dark
>
> I dig this album a good deal. Probably have gave it 20 listens in
> about 3-4 weeks time.
This hasn't left my CD player since I got it and I still spin it on
the ipod and 'puter.
>
> > 10. Dream Theater - Black Clouds and Silver Linings
>
> I liked it some, but I believe I may have played it 5 total times. I
> played their previous album a lot more.
I got the special edition CD pack and that has been played to death.
>
> > 20. Steel Panther - Feel the Steel (waits to see the metal snobs
> > reaction to this one with glee)
>
> I guess it's fun, I never really actually listened to it.
This continually puts a smile on my face and the music isn't that bad
either. However the kvlt twats don't like people laughing and
enjoying music. It's serious business.
>
> > Porcupine Tree - The Incident
>
> This is a top 5 most played album of 2009, even though it was
> released sort of late in the year.
Not played it recently, but it climbed out of the murky depths of
mediocrity which made up the majority of 2009's releases and stood out
for me.
>
> > 1. Iron Maiden
>
> I don't believe I have played a IM album all year long.
Iron Maiden gets regular plays, especially as my boy loves em too.
>
> > Overall 2009 was a fairly shit year for me and I am glad it's behind
> > me now.
> > E.
>
> 2009 was no picnic for me either. I hope 2010 is better for you.
>
and you.
E.
Wyrd
> >"Wyrd" <Wyr...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:1177a964-8712-44f8...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> >1. Candlemass - Death Magic Doom
>
> Didn`t realise you`d fallen for this so much. I played it a lot when it came
> out and there was no doubt it would make my top 20 but in the last 4-5
> months probbaly only played it a couple of times.
The more I play it the more I love it. I would have played it more if
the missus hadn't lost my CD.....grrrrrr.
>
> >2. Immortal - All Shall Fall
>
> I`m a tad disappointed with this in retrospect but it`s still an album I
> like a lot.
>
> >3. Insomnium - Across the Dark
>
> I really should love Insomnium considering their obvious influences and that
> everyone else into this sort of stuff loves them but I just can`t get into
> them for some reason *shrugs*. I`ve tried.
I just find them to be the best of the bunch and they just hit the
right spot, time after time.
>
> >4. Kreator - Hordes of Chaos
> >5. Amorphis - Skyforger
> >6. Slough Feg - The Ape Uprising
> >7. Slayer - World Painted Blood
The Amorphis was a surprise, that I still go back to it. The Kreator
I haven't play too much recently and if you asked me to do this list
in 6 months time I would suspect it would fall even further.
>
> 3 of these will feature in most of our top 10`s I reckon.
>
> >8. Woe of Tyrants - Kingdom of Might
>
> This was another that fell away for me but it came within a gnat`s tit of
> the top 25 still. I sometimes think these lists would be better done 6
> months into the following year...albums fresher in my mind may do better
> than some that came out earlier in the year.
>
> >9. Gorgoroth - Quantos Possunt Ad Satanitatem Trahunt
>
> Tried again with this and it still left me cold. It`s been well received
> though, seems to be just me. I thought there were a lot of considerably
> better black metal releases personally*.
>
> >10. Dream Theater - Black Clouds and Silver Linings
> >11. Blut Aus Nord - Memoria Vetusta II - Dialogue with the Stars
>
> *Such as this! An incredible album IMO.
>
> >12. Hypocrisy - A Taste of Extreme Divinity
> >13. Absu - Absu
> >14. Be'Lakor - Stone's Reach
>
> This was another acclaimed melodeath album I couldn`t get into. Don`t know
> if I`m just tired of the genre or something. Hypocrisy were bubbling under
> and the Absu is great.
There has been very little MDM that I have really enjoyed this year.
>
> >15. Aeon of Horus-The_Embodiment_of_Darkness_and_Light
> >16. God Dethroned - Passiondale
>
> The God Dethroned is one I`ve contiually come back to...may be their best
> album.
>
> >17. Necrophopic - Death to All
> >18. Pantheon I - Worlds I Create
>
> I thought these 2 were distinctly average. Ho hum, I`m sure you could pick
> out stuff from my list you felt the same about.
I sure could..;-)
>
> >19. Gama Bomb - Tales from the Grave in Space
> >20. Steel Panther - Feel the Steel (waits to see the metal snobs
> >reaction to this one with glee)
>
> I`ve only ever heard / seen the promo video thing which I thought was quite
> funny. Not really my cup of tea to seek out and listen to further but if you
> like it I`m not going to slate you for it! Gama Bomb are tremendous fun...I
> almost like them as much as Municipal Waste out of these retro thrash bands.
The MW bored that pants off me. Tedious, stale and not worth all the
fuss they receive.
>
> >Overall 2009 was a fairly shit year for me and I am glad it's behind
> >me now. I won't spew forth with the cliché's that my music helped me
> >though the year as that would just be bullshit. I made it through the
> >year due to my stubbornness and sheer bloodymindedness not to let
> >things get me down. Looking at the music, there have been some
> >fantastic new releases, but after my top 20, I would struggle to find
> >much to really talk about or enjoy, though there are a few that I have
> >recently got that are bubbling under (Overkill and Dark Funeral). Any
> >of those in my top 20 make it into my album of the decade list,
> >probably only the Candlemass stands a chance. Those other bands close
> >to the top have released better in the last 10 years. (Close means
> >Immortal, Insomnium, Kreator).
>
> Overkill is 2010 anyway strictly speaking. I only played Dark Funeral a
> couple of times but it was pretty good...I`ve found so much good black metal
> lately that `good` wasn`t quite good enough. Been playing lots of the back
> catalogue by Blut Aus Nord, Deathspell Omega and Drudkh. Top 20 of the
> decade? The top 3 of my list would all be candidates for me...tough call
> though. There are a few bands that couple well sew up the list between
> them...I`d have most of Enslaved`s releases in there for sure.
That Overkill I have enjoyed so far and will now pop it into my 2010
folder. Easily the 2010 album of the year for me....so far.
E.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> >2. Immortal - All Shall Fall
>
> I`m a tad disappointed with this in retrospect but it`s still an album I
> like a lot.
I don't know if I would say disappointed, but I have managed about 5
listens. Which is probably at least 50 less than Sons got. Decide what
to think from that.
> >3. Insomnium - Across the Dark
>
> I really should love Insomnium considering their obvious influences and that
> everyone else into this sort of stuff loves them but I just can`t get into
> them for some reason *shrugs*. I`ve tried.
Dig it.
> >4. Kreator - Hordes of Chaos
> >5. Amorphis - Skyforger
> >6. Slough Feg - The Ape Uprising
> >7. Slayer - World Painted Blood
>
> 3 of these will feature in most of our top 10`s I reckon.
But would be a different one on some lists.
> >16. God Dethroned - Passiondale
>
> The God Dethroned is one I`ve contiually come back to...may be their best
> album.
So they topped their old classics then?
> >Overall 2009
> Overkill is 2010 anyway strictly speaking. I only played Dark Funeral a
> couple of times but it was pretty good...I`ve found so much good black metal
> lately that `good` wasn`t quite good enough. Been playing lots of the back
> catalogue by Blut Aus Nord, Deathspell Omega and Drudkh. Top 20 of the
> decade? The top 3 of my list would all be candidates for me...tough call
> though. There are a few bands that couple well sew up the list between
> them...I`d have most of Enslaved`s releases in there for sure.
What, no Morbid Tales?
Scored an old CD when out and about today.
Also got Human.
Tom
Should be a good day listening.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > I don't believe I have played a IM album all year long.
>
> I`ve already played one this year! Out of all bands I think Maiden will be
> one I`ll always return to frequently.
Oh, I will return to them, be the old classics, though. Still, if
Bruce is doing a solo album, I am sure I have more interest in that
than the next 2-5 IM albums, provided they do 2-5 more.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > > 3. Insomnium - Across the Dark
>
> > I dig this album a good deal. Probably have gave it 20 listens in
> > about 3-4 weeks time.
>
> This hasn't left my CD player since I got it and I still spin it on
> the ipod and 'puter.
20 listens in 3-4 weeks is a lot. I guess I could say it's hardly
left my playlist.
> > > 10. Dream Theater - Black Clouds and Silver Linings
>
> > I liked it some, but I believe I may have played it 5 total times. I
> > played their previous album a lot more.
>
> I got the special edition CD pack and that has been played to death.
Systemic Chaos is better, if you ask me.
> > > 20. Steel Panther - Feel the Steel (waits to see the metal snobs
> > > reaction to this one with glee)
>
> > I guess it's fun, I never really actually listened to it.
>
> This continually puts a smile on my face and the music isn't that bad
> either. However the kvlt twats don't like people laughing and
> enjoying music. It's serious business.
I like to laugh at/with music at times. Just never heard this.
> > > Porcupine Tree - The Incident
>
> > This is a top 5 most played album of 2009, even though it was
> > released sort of late in the year.
>
> Not played it recently, but it climbed out of the murky depths of
> mediocrity which made up the majority of 2009's releases and stood out
> for me.
It has stood out for me as well. Probably 30-40 plays. Just a dozen
or so less than Mastodon probably.
> > > 1. Iron Maiden
>
> > I don't believe I have played a IM album all year long.
>
> Iron Maiden gets regular plays, especially as my boy loves em too.
I will listen to them again this year, I am sure.
> > > Overall 2009 was a fairly shit year for me and I am glad it's behind
> > > me now.
> > > E.
>
> > 2009 was no picnic for me either. I hope 2010 is better for you.
>
> and you.
>
> E.
Thanks.
Tom
One can always hope.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > Overkill is 2010
>
> That Overkill I have enjoyed so far and will now pop it into my 2010
> folder. Easily the 2010 album of the year for me....so far.
>
> E.
It may set the bar high, but a whole year is such a long time to
find something to top an album.
Tom
Soze
On Jan 2, 8:25 am, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >2. Immortal - All Shall Fall
>
> I`m a tad disappointed with this in retrospect but it`s still an album I
> like a lot.
> I don't know if I would say disappointed, but I have managed about 5
>listens. Which is probably at least 50 less than Sons got. Decide what
>to think from that.
It`s hit 17 listens for me...I`m judging it on the quality of Immortal`s
back catalogue I guess. It`s not as good as the bulk of it.
> >3. Insomnium - Across the Dark
>
> I really should love Insomnium considering their obvious influences and
> that
> everyone else into this sort of stuff loves them but I just can`t get into
> them for some reason *shrugs*. I`ve tried.
> Dig it.
I thought you would, I don`t know why they bore me. The new album has some
awful clean vocals on it but the older stuff is clearly influenced by a lot
of bands I adored in the mid to late 90`s but...I can`t put my finger on it,
they don`t hit the spot.
> >4. Kreator - Hordes of Chaos
> >5. Amorphis - Skyforger
> >6. Slough Feg - The Ape Uprising
> >7. Slayer - World Painted Blood
>
> 3 of these will feature in most of our top 10`s I reckon.
> But would be a different one on some lists.
Indeed. I still don`t understand why you don`t like the one you`d leave out
though, should really give them a proper try.
> >16. God Dethroned - Passiondale
>
> The God Dethroned is one I`ve contiually come back to...may be their best
> album.
> So they topped their old classics then?
I`m not sure they`ve ever released a "classic" but they`ve been pretty solid
over the years. This album is just particularly good.
> >Overall 2009
> Overkill is 2010 anyway strictly speaking. I only played Dark Funeral a
> couple of times but it was pretty good...I`ve found so much good black
> metal
> lately that `good` wasn`t quite good enough. Been playing lots of the back
> catalogue by Blut Aus Nord, Deathspell Omega and Drudkh. Top 20 of the
> decade? The top 3 of my list would all be candidates for me...tough call
> though. There are a few bands that couple well sew up the list between
> them...I`d have most of Enslaved`s releases in there for sure.
> What, no Morbid Tales?
> Scored an old CD when out and about today.
> Also got Human.
About time! Both would stand a good chance of making their respective decade
top 10s but...an 80`s top 10? Man that would be hard!!
kev...@gmail.com
I've enjoyed reading the other lists and I doubt anyone cares but here
is mine (in no order)
Abigail Sweet Baby Metal Slut
Legacy Metallic Assault
Defiance The Prophecy
Pelican What we all come to need
Skeletonwitch Breathing the fire
Skaldic Curse World Suicide Machine
Overkill Ironbound
U.D.O. Dominator
Epica Design your own universe
Mastodon Crack the Skye
Candlemass Death Magic Doom
Cage Science of Anilation
honorable mentions:
Megadeth Endgame (good, but not classic)
Slayer World painted blood (verdict is still out for me)
Mantic Ritual Executioner (solid classic thrash, but nothing
more, still I enjoyed it)
Heaven and Hell TDYK (this one would of made the list this Summer,
but I just dont play it anymore and feel at least for now it
represents by far their weakest effort)... still love Dio Sabbath, but
like Priest vocally and creatively I fear their best days are behind
them)
Judas Priest Touch of Evil, this one gets some kudo's for the set
list, but some of the performances are so great (vocally) and some of
the songs are just recycled from their dvd.... so IMO it would of made
a better bonus cd than regular release or even free mp3 downloads...
I think it's interesting that almost everyone includes Candlemass and
Mastodon. Mastodon especially is the best concept metal album in a
long long time if not ever.
audiophile
Morbid Tales and Human are better than any metal that came out this
year ;)
e.
--
great picks!
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > >2. Immortal - All Shall Fall
>
> > I`m a tad disappointed with this in retrospect but it`s still an album I
> > like a lot.
> > I don't know if I would say disappointed, but I have managed about 5
> >listens. Which is probably at least 50 less than Sons got. Decide what
> >to think from that.
>
> It`s hit 17 listens for me...I`m judging it on the quality of Immortal`s
> back catalogue I guess. It`s not as good as the bulk of it.
Bomber would say anything, what Bizzard Beasts is unworthy.
> > >3. Insomnium - Across the Dark
> > Dig it.
>
> I thought you would, I don`t know why they bore me. The new album has some
> awful clean vocals on it but the older stuff is clearly influenced by a lot
> of bands I adored in the mid to late 90`s but...I can`t put my finger on it,
> they don`t hit the spot.
I've heard worse clean vocals on metal albums than that. I don't
know, maybe it's too much miserable bastard type stuff for you.
> > 3 of these will feature in most of our top 10`s I reckon.
> > But would be a different one on some lists.
>
> Indeed. I still don`t understand why you don`t like the one you`d leave out
> though, should really give them a proper try.
Just didn't dig it at the time I heard part of it, or almost all of
it as I remember they had the whole album streaming there for a while.
> > >16. God Dethroned - Passiondale
>
> > The God Dethroned is one I`ve contiually come back to...may be their best
> > album.
> > So they topped their old classics then?
>
> I`m not sure they`ve ever released a "classic" but they`ve been pretty solid
> over the years. This album is just particularly good.
Oh, that was just a poke at e.
> > What, no Morbid Tales?
>
> > Scored an old CD when out and about today.
> > Also got Human.
>
> About time! Both would stand a good chance of making their respective decade
> top 10s but...an 80`s top 10? Man that would be hard!!
Yeah, it would be impossible to really do it justice. As soon as you
set a top 10, someone would add 10-20-100, 1000 CD's that would make
you second guess your memory.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> I've enjoyed reading the other lists and I doubt anyone cares but here
> is mine (in no order)
>
> Abigail Sweet Baby Metal Slut
wtf? Never heard tell of this.
> Legacy Metallic Assault
> Defiance The Prophecy
Love this.
> Pelican What we all come to need
> Skeletonwitch Breathing the fire
> Skaldic Curse World Suicide Machine
> Overkill Ironbound
Technically a 2010 release.
> Epica Design your own universe
> Mastodon Crack the Skye
Like these two.
> Candlemass Death Magic Doom
> Cage Science of Anilation
>
> honorable mentions:
>
> Megadeth Endgame (good, but not classic)
HS, ffs, It's pretty damn good.
> Slayer World painted blood (verdict is still out for me)
Not for me it isn't. I like it end to end, and that's a first
probably now going back to SoH. I don't like any album by Slayer end
to end since then. I like most of Seasons, but do skip some here and
there, but I haven't listened to Seasons in ages.
> Heaven and Hell TDYK (this one would of made the list this Summer,
> but I just dont play it anymore and feel at least for now it
> represents by far their weakest effort)... still love Dio Sabbath, but
> like Priest vocally and creatively I fear their best days are behind
> them)
Another vote against. Surely Ritchie will vote for.
> Judas Priest Touch of Evil, this one gets some kudo's for the set
> list, but some of the performances are so great (vocally) and some of
> the songs are just recycled from their dvd.... so IMO it would of made
> a better bonus cd than regular release or even free mp3 downloads...
2 listens. Not counting listening to part of it on that streaming
website. Probably listen again, but it may be a while.
> I think it's interesting that almost everyone includes Candlemass and
> Mastodon. Mastodon especially is the best concept metal album in a
> long long time if not ever.
I know the Mastodon is a concept album, but I shudder to think of
trying to explain the story in any way. I know I just stated it to be
the AotY, which is a two-fer for them, but when I think concept album,
I think of a solid storyline that flows through the whole album. An
audio movie. If you will.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > What, no Morbid Tales?
>
> > Scored an old CD when out and about today.
>
> > Also got Human.
>
> > Tom
>
> > Should be a good day listening.
>
> Morbid Tales and Human are better than any metal that came out this
> year ;)
>
> e.
> --
> great picks!
Ok, tried to post something, but didn't seem to go. I have heard
Human a good number of times over the years. As for MT, it's going to
be hard to turn back the clock and keep in mind it's a 1984 release.
Will give it several listens to see how much I like it with repeated
listens.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> On Jan 2, 1:34 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > >2. Immortal - All Shall Fall
>
> > > I`m a tad disappointed with this in retrospect but it`s still an album I
> > > like a lot.
> > > I don't know if I would say disappointed, but I have managed about 5
> > >listens. Which is probably at least 50 less than Sons got. Decide what
> > >to think from that.
>
> > It`s hit 17 listens for me...I`m judging it on the quality of Immortal`s
> > back catalogue I guess. It`s not as good as the bulk of it.
>
> Bomber would say anything, what Bizzard Beasts is unworthy.
Anything after Bizzard Beasts, that is.
dclizardking
>
> - Show quoted text -
I was speculating yesterday as to what I felt would have made the top
twenty list in 1986 from 2009s releases, and have come to the
conclusion that almost nothing would. As much as it's been a good year
for metal...it's a far cry from the golden era that was the 1980s.
TJ Xenos
> On Jan 2, 2:31 pm, "kev...@gmail.com" <kev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've enjoyed reading the other lists and I doubt anyone cares but here
> > is mine (in no order)
>
> > Abigail Sweet Baby Metal Slut
>
> wtf? Never heard tell of this.
Raw black metal/thrash from japan. If you like Bathory, Sabbat (jp),
and early toxic holocaust...
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > > I've enjoyed reading the other lists and I doubt anyone cares but here
> > > is mine (in no order)
>
> > > Abigail Sweet Baby Metal Slut
>
> > wtf? Never heard tell of this.
>
> Raw black metal/thrash from japan. If you like Bathory, Sabbat (jp),
> and early toxic holocaust...
I'd be willing to hear it, but don't expect much. Not real big into
BM.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > Morbid Tales and Human are better than any metal that came out this
> > year ;)
>
> > e.
> > --
> > great picks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I was speculating yesterday as to what I felt would have made the top
> twenty list in 1986 from 2009s releases, and have come to the
> conclusion that almost nothing would. As much as it's been a good year
> for metal...it's a far cry from the golden era that was the 1980s.
Is it a bit of nostalgia? I mean those years were the foundation of
much of what metal is now. I know a lot of those 80's and if you're
old enough 70's albums were very good, and the fact that anything
released today is compared to everything you've already heard. I don't
know how that effects you, but I sort of feel like it's about
impossible today for a band to do something that is truely
groundbreaking. They can just do their best, and hope to make music
that people will like. But there's no illusion that it's all original
and such.
Tom
NP-Kansas-Monolith
audiophile
> > Morbid Tales and Human are better than any metal that came out this
> > year ;)
>
> > e.
> > --
> > great picks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I was speculating yesterday as to what I felt would have made the top
> twenty list in 1986 from 2009s releases, and have come to the
> conclusion that almost nothing would. As much as it's been a good year
> for metal...it's a far cry from the golden era that was the 1980s.
It's an interesting topic, and doubtless colored by how in 1986 our
tastes were not nearly as broad as today.
How much does context matter? Sure it's tough to say, but I do have a
solid bit of "uncorrupted" data on this front.
My most played metal album this year is Deceased "Fearless Undead
Machines" - a record from 1997. It was new to me this year, and thus
had no "unfair" leg up on any new metal that was released in 2009. In
fact, if it was released this year, it would be my AOTY without
question.
e.
--
the argument for timelessness
kev...@gmail.com
> > Abigail Sweet Baby Metal Slut
>
> wtf? Never heard tell of this.
>
actually you did hear it, and didn't like vocals.
> > Legacy Metallic Assault
> > Defiance The Prophecy
>
> Love this.
>
> > Pelican What we all come to need
> > Skeletonwitch Breathing the fire
> > Skaldic Curse World Suicide Machine
> > Overkill Ironbound
>
> Technically a 2010 release.
You caught me, I downloaded it...
>
> > Heaven and Hell TDYK (this one would of made the list this Summer,
> > but I just dont play it anymore and feel at least for now it
> > represents by far their weakest effort)... still love Dio Sabbath, but
> > like Priest vocally and creatively I fear their best days are behind
> > them)
>
> Another vote against. Surely Ritchie will vote for.
>
I wouldn't call it a vote against. I gave it an honorary mention.
It's not a bad cd it's just not up there with the other ones. It has
some great playing but as time goes on I look at it as an extension of
the bonus tracks they did for the greatest hits rather than an album
that is in the same league as the other 3. I wouldn't be surprised if
my opinion changes, it took me years to appreciate Dehumanizer but
there is one thing there is no denying and that is in the vocal dept
and the up tempo Neon Nights, Mob Rules, ComputerGod dept the record
is lacking compared to the previous ones. I think it is impossible
to judge records like this from bands who you have followed and liked
for so long until there is some distance to put them into perspective.
>
> I know the Mastodon is a concept album, but I shudder to think of
> trying to explain the story in any way. I know I just stated it to be
> the AotY, which is a two-fer for them, but when I think concept album,
> I think of a solid storyline that flows through the whole album. An
> audio movie. If you will.
>
You said the same thing regarding Nostradamus.
About Slayer, I wasn't interested in this record too much after the
last one went forgotten in my collection, but it has worked it's way
into my playlist. I didn't want to comment either way, but as much
as I appreciate what Mustaine is doing and liked Endgame, I never play
it, usually opting for the one of the first 4 if I am in the mood.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > I was speculating yesterday as to what I felt would have made the top
> > twenty list in 1986 from 2009s releases, and have come to the
> > conclusion that almost nothing would. As much as it's been a good year
> > for metal...it's a far cry from the golden era that was the 1980s.
>
> It's an interesting topic, and doubtless colored by how in 1986 our
> tastes were not nearly as broad as today.
>
> How much does context matter? Sure it's tough to say, but I do have a
> solid bit of "uncorrupted" data on this front.
>
> My most played metal album this year is Deceased "Fearless Undead
> Machines" - a record from 1997. It was new to me this year, and thus
> had no "unfair" leg up on any new metal that was released in 2009. In
> fact, if it was released this year, it would be my AOTY without
> question.
>
> e.
> --
> the argument for timelessness
That can only happen for me if it's some band I've never heard
before. If I have albums by a band, and have listened, then it's going
to be colored by expectations and "baggage" from the other albums. I
did like the songs I heard off of that album, but I've never heard
anything from them before.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > > Abigail Sweet Baby Metal Slut
>
> > wtf? Never heard tell of this.
>
> actually you did hear it, and didn't like vocals.
Are you sure. It doesn't seem like anything I have listened to.
Maybe I was drunk or something when I listened to it.
> > > Overkill Ironbound
>
> > Technically a 2010 release.
>
> You caught me, I downloaded it...
If you buy it, I won't complain.
> > Another vote against. Surely Ritchie will vote for.
>
> I wouldn't call it a vote against. I gave it an honorary mention.
> It's not a bad cd it's just not up there with the other ones.
Well, ok. I can see this opinion. I liked the album, but it's only
got about 15-20 listens. If I really liked it, I imagine I'd double
that.
> for so long until there is some distance to put them into perspective.
Like for how long?
> > I know the Mastodon is a concept album, but I shudder to think of
> > trying to explain the story in any way. I know I just stated it to be
> > the AotY, which is a two-fer for them, but when I think concept album,
> > I think of a solid storyline that flows through the whole album. An
> > audio movie. If you will.
>
> You said the same thing regarding Nostradamus.
Difference being I think the Mastodon is more kick ass all the way
through. At times on Nostra, it seems like JP forgot they're a metal
band. That could be good or bad, I guess.
> About Slayer, I wasn't interested in this record too much after the
> last one went forgotten in my collection, but it has worked it's way
> into my playlist. I didn't want to comment either way, but as much
> as I appreciate what Mustaine is doing and liked Endgame, I never play
> it, usually opting for the one of the first 4 if I am in the mood.
I imagine it will never be rated as highly by most MD fans. I know
it will take 100's of listens to get anywhere near what PS and the
like got.
I don't think it will get there from here. Still, I do like both
albums a lot. Not so hard to believe with MD, as I liked the last
couple as well, but it seemed like Slayer became a "we can get a few
songs right, but not a whole album type band. I'm just happy I can
listen to it end to end, without skipping much.
Tom
Soze
"dclizardking" <dcliza...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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So many influential / classic thrash albums came out between 1986-88, for
those of us of a certain age that period will forever be the golden one.
I just checked itunes though and I only have 26 albums from 1986...so
thought *surely* something from `09 would scrape into a top 20? Especially
considering one of those 26 is crap ( Turbo ), 2 are non metal ( a Cure
compilation and The Smiths `The Queen is Dead` ), one is a live album (
Venom`s Eine Kleine Nachtmusick ) and one is a compilation ( Rainbow`s
Finyl Vinyl ). So I`ve had a crack at it...
1. Reign in Blood - Slayer
2. Master of Puppets - Metallica
3. Peace Sells - Megadeth
4. Pleasure to Kill - Kreator
Now, all 4 of these would be very strong candidates for my top 10 *ever*...
5. Game Over - Nuclear Assault
6. Darkness Descends - Dark Angel
7. Eternal Devastation - Destruction
8. Beyond the Gates - Possessed
Definately nothing in my `09 top 20 would touch this lot
9. Somewhere in Time - Iron Maiden
10. Walls of Jericho - Helloween
11. Fatal Portrait - King Diamond
12. Riders of Doom - Deathrow
13. The Force - Onlsaught
14. RRROOOAAARRR - Voivod
15. Doomsday for the Decieiver - Flotsam and Jetsam
16. Morbid Visions - Sepultura
17. The Unstoppable Force - Agent Steel
18. Obssessed By Cruelty - Sodom
19. Possessed By Fire - Exumer
20. Epicus Doomincus Metallicus - Candlemass
But this bunch, great as they are, would get inflitrated by my top 7 from
`09.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> So many influential / classic thrash albums came out between 1986-88, for
> those of us of a certain age that period will forever be the golden one.
You're damn straight on this. It will never be like that, again for
Thrash. But I have liked a lot of thrash metal albums of late.
> considering one of those 26 is crap ( Turbo ),
Crap? Surely that is an insult to crap!
> 1. Reign in Blood - Slayer
> 2. Master of Puppets - Metallica
> 3. Peace Sells - Megadeth
> 4. Pleasure to Kill - Kreator
I'd have PS 2.
> Now, all 4 of these would be very strong candidates for my top 10 *ever*...
>
> 5. Game Over - Nuclear Assault
> 6. Darkness Descends - Dark Angel
> 7. Eternal Devastation - Destruction
> 8. Beyond the Gates - Possessed
These I don't like as much.
> Definately nothing in my `09 top 20 would touch this lot
>
> 9. Somewhere in Time - Iron Maiden
> 10. Walls of Jericho - Helloween
> 11. Fatal Portrait - King Diamond
> 12. Riders of Doom - Deathrow
> 13. The Force - Onlsaught
> 14. RRROOOAAARRR - Voivod
> 15. Doomsday for the Decieiver - Flotsam and Jetsam
> 16. Morbid Visions - Sepultura
> 17. The Unstoppable Force - Agent Steel
> 18. Obssessed By Cruelty - Sodom
> 19. Possessed By Fire - Exumer
> 20. Epicus Doomincus Metallicus - Candlemass
>
> But this bunch, great as they are, would get inflitrated by my top 7 from
> `09.
Yeah, but would they crack the top few? If I am honest, I doubt I'd
rate any metal album this year over RiB or PS.
Out of your top 20, I have heard 12, many of them a lot of times.
Since I don't have a list of 1986 albums handy, it would be hard to
add any. Although I would add Blue Oyster Cult-Club Ninja. Which I did
play a lot of times over the years. Although pressed, I'd probably
call it more arena rock than heavy metal. It's certainly not as heavy
as most of your list. If any.
Tom
Soze
On Jan 3, 2:18 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> So many influential / classic thrash albums came out between 1986-88, for
> those of us of a certain age that period will forever be the golden one.
> You're damn straight on this. It will never be like that, again for
>Thrash. But I have liked a lot of thrash metal albums of late.
> considering one of those 26 is crap ( Turbo ),
> Crap? Surely that is an insult to crap!
> 1. Reign in Blood - Slayer
> 2. Master of Puppets - Metallica
> 3. Peace Sells - Megadeth
> 4. Pleasure to Kill - Kreator
> I'd have PS 2.
It`s a tough call...nowadays I definately listen to PS more than MoP but
back in the day it was the other way round.
> Now, all 4 of these would be very strong candidates for my top 10
> *ever*...
>
> 5. Game Over - Nuclear Assault
> 6. Darkness Descends - Dark Angel
> 7. Eternal Devastation - Destruction
> 8. Beyond the Gates - Possessed
> These I don't like as much.
Really??
> Definately nothing in my `09 top 20 would touch this lot
>
> 9. Somewhere in Time - Iron Maiden
> 10. Walls of Jericho - Helloween
> 11. Fatal Portrait - King Diamond
> 12. Riders of Doom - Deathrow
> 13. The Force - Onlsaught
> 14. RRROOOAAARRR - Voivod
> 15. Doomsday for the Decieiver - Flotsam and Jetsam
> 16. Morbid Visions - Sepultura
> 17. The Unstoppable Force - Agent Steel
> 18. Obssessed By Cruelty - Sodom
> 19. Possessed By Fire - Exumer
> 20. Epicus Doomincus Metallicus - Candlemass
>
> But this bunch, great as they are, would get inflitrated by my top 7 from
> `09.
> Yeah, but would they crack the top few? If I am honest, I doubt I'd
>rate any metal album this year over RiB or PS.
No, my last sentence there "this bunch" meant numbers 8-20. I`d comfortably
slot the new Megadeth, Mastodon, Kreator, Anaal Nathrakh, Drudkh, Blut Aus
Nord and Slough Feg albums above stuff like Exumer, Agent Steel, Onslaught,
Deathrow etc.
>Out of your top 20, I have heard 12, many of them a lot of times.
Which 8 haven`t you heard? I`m guessing Exumer, Deathrow, possibly Onslaught
( don`t know if they were as big in the US as in the UK )....hmmm, most of
the rest of those would have been standard fare I`d have thought...
> Since I don't have a list of 1986 albums handy, it would be hard to
>add any. Although I would add Blue Oyster Cult-Club Ninja. Which I did
>play a lot of times over the years. Although pressed, I'd probably
>call it more arena rock than heavy metal. It's certainly not as heavy
>as most of your list. If any.
I`m not really familiar with BOC.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > 1. Reign in Blood - Slayer
> > 2. Master of Puppets - Metallica
> > 3. Peace Sells - Megadeth
> > 4. Pleasure to Kill - Kreator
> > I'd have PS 2.
>
> It`s a tough call...nowadays I definately listen to PS more than MoP but
> back in the day it was the other way round.
It is hard to remember, I listened to them so many times as to not
be able to count.
> > Now, all 4 of these would be very strong candidates for my top 10
> > *ever*...
>
> > 5. Game Over - Nuclear Assault
> > 6. Darkness Descends - Dark Angel
> > 7. Eternal Devastation - Destruction
> > 8. Beyond the Gates - Possessed
> > These I don't like as much.
>
> Really??
Not sure I've heard Possessed, but the other three, yes, I probably
like the DA one the most.
> > Definately nothing in my `09 top 20 would touch this lot
> >Out of your top 20, I have heard 12, many of them a lot of times.
>
> Which 8 haven`t you heard? I`m guessing Exumer, Deathrow, possibly Onslaught
> ( don`t know if they were as big in the US as in the UK )....hmmm, most of
> the rest of those would have been standard fare I`d have thought...
Those three and Agent Steel, Sodom. I guess it was only 6 I hadn't
heard.
> > Since I don't have a list of 1986 albums handy, it would be hard to
> >add any. Although I would add Blue Oyster Cult-Club Ninja. Which I did
> >play a lot of times over the years. Although pressed, I'd probably
> >call it more arena rock than heavy metal. It's certainly not as heavy
> >as most of your list. If any.
>
> I`m not really familiar with BOC.
Their 70's out put I think you'd like more.
Cities on Flame With Rock and Roll
Godzilla (surely you've heard this)
Don't Fear the Reaper (and this)
Astronomy
and so on.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > 2. Master of Puppets - Metallica
> > 3. Peace Sells - Megadeth
> > 4. Pleasure to Kill - Kreator
> > I'd have PS 2.
>
> It`s a tough call...nowadays I definately listen to PS more than MoP but
> back in the day it was the other way round.
It is hard to remember, I listened to them so many times as to not
be able to count.
> > Now, all 4 of these would be very strong candidates for my top 10
> > *ever*...
>
> > 5. Game Over - Nuclear Assault
> > 6. Darkness Descends - Dark Angel
> > 7. Eternal Devastation - Destruction
> > 8. Beyond the Gates - Possessed
> > These I don't like as much.
>
> Really??
Not sure I've heard Possessed, but the other three, yes, I probably
like the DA one the most.
> > Definately nothing in my `09 top 20 would touch this lot
> >Out of your top 20, I have heard 12, many of them a lot of times.
>
> Which 8 haven`t you heard? I`m guessing Exumer, Deathrow, possibly Onslaught
> ( don`t know if they were as big in the US as in the UK )....hmmm, most of
> the rest of those would have been standard fare I`d have thought...
Those three and Agent Steel, Sodom. I guess it was only 6 I hadn't
heard.
> > Since I don't have a list of 1986 albums handy, it would be hard to
> >add any. Although I would add Blue Oyster Cult-Club Ninja. Which I did
> >play a lot of times over the years. Although pressed, I'd probably
> >call it more arena rock than heavy metal. It's certainly not as heavy
> >as most of your list. If any.
>
> I`m not really familiar with BOC.
Their 70's out put I think you'd like more.
TJ Xenos
> "dclizardking" <dclizardk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Sodom, Voivod, Death Angel, Destruction, Nuclear Assault Records are
better than megadeth/metallica IMO Can't fuck with slayer/kreator
tho. I'd also rate morbid visions higher, perhaps even ahead of
possessed (although I may be overly harsh on this as Seven Churches is
possibly the best metal album ever IMO. I rate it as high as RiB)
audiophile
PS is my favorite album on that list, so there we disagree :)
But I too would rate the Slayer, Kreator, Sodom, Dark Angel, Nuke
Assault, Possessed, Sepultura, Candlemass and possibly even Voivod
over MOP (I rate Voivod as a band _far_ higher than Metallica, but
Rooooarrrr is one of their weaker records).
Which shouldn't be a big surprise, given my well documented minority
opinion on the record.
e.
--
if RTL had been released in '86, different story...
TJ Xenos
> On Jan 3, 9:06 pm, TJ Xenos <talvi...@aol.com> wrote:
> PS is my favorite album on that list, so there we disagree :)
Not a huge fan of the 'deth. As I've grown older I've realized slayer
is the only one of the big 4 that I actually love, and the rest I find
horribly overrated, but feel a tinge of nostalgia for how my ignorant
teenage self thought they were the best thing ever as I wasn't as
familiar with rawer thrash.
>
> But I too would rate the Slayer, Kreator, Sodom, Dark Angel, Nuke
> Assault, Possessed, Sepultura, Candlemass and possibly even Voivod
> over MOP (I rate Voivod as a band _far_ higher than Metallica, but
> Rooooarrrr is one of their weaker records).
I don't think voivod has weaker records, just ones you're more in the
mood for at the time.
TJ Xenos
release/acquisition) -
SSS - Dividing Line
Kreator - Hordes of Chaos
SunnO))) - Monoliths & Dimensions
Magrudergrind - S/T
Yob - The Great Cessation
Municipal Waste - Hazardous Mutation
Slayer - World Painted Blood
Church of Misery - Houses of the Unholy
Panzerbastard - 2006-2009
Anaal Nathrakh - In the Constellation of the Black Widow
Best Reissue - Nirvana 2002 - Recordings 1989-1991
Soze
"TJ Xenos" <talv...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 3, 9:41 pm, audiophile <audiophi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 9:06 pm, TJ Xenos <talvi...@aol.com> wrote:
> PS is my favorite album on that list, so there we disagree :)
>Not a huge fan of the 'deth. As I've grown older I've realized slayer
>is the only one of the big 4 that I actually love, and the rest I find
>horribly overrated, but feel a tinge of nostalgia for how my ignorant
>teenage self thought they were the best thing ever as I wasn't as
>familiar with rawer thrash.
I`ve always loved the big 4. As I`ve gotten older I probably appreciate
early Megadeth even more...to the point I largely prefer them to Metallica
now. I`ve always loved the raaw stuff as well though, loved all that early
Kreator and Celtic Frost stuff from the get go.
>
> But I too would rate the Slayer, Kreator, Sodom, Dark Angel, Nuke
> Assault, Possessed, Sepultura, Candlemass and possibly even Voivod
> over MOP (I rate Voivod as a band _far_ higher than Metallica, but
> Rooooarrrr is one of their weaker records).
>I don't think voivod has weaker records, just ones you're more in the
>mood for at the time.
What, across their entire discography? I wouldn`t have had you down for
someone who gets much from Angel Rat. RRROOOAAARRR is my least favourite
Voivod after Phobos...which are the only 2 I rarely go back to.
Soze
7 Churches is remarkable...although even in a 1985 list I`d put it behind
Hell Awaits...and I`d have to um and ah for a while over it and Bonded By
Blood for the no.2 spot.
Wyrd
None of these have even come close to Metallica at their best (MoP/
RTtL). If they had found a half decent vocalist maybe I would have
said the same thing about deth. Mustaine is far better guitarist than
Kork and James. Oh what could have been.
E.
Wyrd
I would only rate RiB above MoP, but that changes year in year out. My
top 3 thrash albums rotates between RiB,MoP and RtL.
E.
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Oh the winds changed and they have swapped places again.....
Soze
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I think Mustaine is one of the greatest vocalists in metal.
TJ Xenos
I don't really like hetfield or mustaine.
Wyrd
Thank you for confirming your actual level of deafness. I had you
pegged for slightly tone deaf, now I have moved you to "totally
fucking deaf as well as stupid".
E.
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Wyrd
At least Hetfield when he used to growl didn't sound like a nasally
whiney cunt. He has more whine in his voice than all the angst
teenagers have that ever listened to grunge or emo shite.
E.
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Soze
A charming outburst. Whilst on a purely technical level Mustaine can hardly
compete with the Halfords, Dios and Dickinsons of the world his voice is a
great pissed off sounding thrash metal one. It didn`t work so well when
Megadeth softened their sound ( although judging by the sales figures it
would seem many would disagree with me here ) but when making the music he`s
best at it suits perfectly. The first 4 Megadeth albums are pretty much
perfect thrash metal and would not improve with a different vocalist.
Wyrd
I would be pissed off too if I sang like that and was ginger..;-)
There are very few thrash or other type of vocalist I like less. So
just about any other vocalist would be an improvement.
E.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> >None of these have even come close to Metallica at their best (MoP/
> >RTtL). If they had found a half decent vocalist maybe I would have
> >said the same thing about deth. Mustaine is far better guitarist than
> >Kork and James. Oh what could have been.
>
> I think Mustaine is one of the greatest vocalists in metal.
I like his vocals, most of the time, but he decides to try to
actually sing occasionally. That never works out well. He should stick
to spitting out the words with pissy venom and attitude.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> I`ve always loved the big 4. As I`ve gotten older I probably appreciate
> early Megadeth even more...to the point I largely prefer them to Metallica
> now. I`ve always loved the raaw stuff as well though, loved all that early
> Kreator and Celtic Frost stuff from the get go.
Did you see, Apparently Testament is going to play The Legacy in
it's entirety on the next tour.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
>
> 7 Churches is remarkable...although even in a 1985 list I`d put it behind
> Hell Awaits...and I`d have to um and ah for a while over it and Bonded By
> Blood for the no.2 spot.
You Tubing 7 churches right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6FZBIZ0Xbs
Yep, need to get rich, and get 36 hours in a day.
Tom
cailinsdad
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>After much deliberation and head scratching I present my Top 25! I`m sure
>I`ll disagree with it if I look back in a couple months time...
Mine would be:
1. Hordes of Chaos - Kreator
2. Cracke the Skye - Mastodon
3. All Shall Fall - Immortal
4. Slough Feg - Ape Uprising
5. Blue Record - Baroness
6. Massive Aggressive - Municipal Waste
7. Breathing the Fire - Skeletonwitch
8. The Divinity of Oceans - Ahab
9. Shrinebuilder - Shrinebuilder
10. Yob - The Great Cessation
11. Black Cascade - Wolves in the Throne Room
12. World Painted Blood - Slayer
13. Addicted - Devin Townsend
14. Dethklok II - Dethklok
15. Static Tensions - kylesa
16. Walpurgis Rites - Belphegor
17. Tales from the grave in space - Gama Bomb
18. Waking Into Nightmares - Warbringer
19. Death Magik Doom - Candlemass
20. Time Waits for No Slave - Napalm Death
I admit there is some stuff I have not heard yet from 2009 that might
make this list. I have not heard the latest from Anaal Nathrakh, or
that album from Ruins of Beverast and I have heard good things about
both. I also had a tough time with my last spot. I think 2009
releases from Absu, Goatwhore, and Black Dahlia Murder come close to
the Napalm album. But ultimatly I listen to the Napalm album more.
>1. Endgame - Megadeth
>2. Crack the Skye - Mastodon
>3. Hordes of Chaos - Kreator
>4. Microcosmos - Drudkh
>5. In the Constellation of the Black Widow - Anaal Nathrakh
>6. Ape Uprising! - Slough Feg
>7. Memorium Vetusta II - Blut Aus Nord
>8. Cosmogenesis - Obscura
>9. World Painted Blood - Slayer
>10. Black Cascade - Wolves in the Throne Room
>11. Passiondale - God Dethroned
>12. All Shall Fall - Immortal
>13. Massive Aggressive - Municipal Waste
>14. Death Magik Doom - Candlemass
>15. Loss - Wodensthrone
>16. Fragmentary Evidence - Augury
>17. Those Whom the Gods Detest - Nile
>18. Absu - Absu
>19. Everything is Fire - Ulcerate
>20. Marantha - Funeral Mist
>21. Tales from the Grave in Space - Gama Bomb
>22. Infini - Voivod
>23. Foulest Semen of a Shattered Elite - Ruins of Beverast
>24. From Afar - Ensiferum
>25. Walpurgis Rites - Belphegor
>
>Honorable mentions to a bunch more ( been a good year for
>music )...Arckanum, Woe of Tyrants, Warbringer, De Magia Veterum, Temple of
>Baal, Napalm Death, Destroyer 666, Dark Funeral....
>
>
>Disappointments of the year -
>
>1. The Devil You Know - Heaven and Hell
>2. Infected Nations - Evile
>3. Resurrection Macabre - Pestilence
>
>The `where was I first time around` award goes to
>
>The Arcane Odyssey - Sear Bliss 2007
>
>And Deathspell Omega in general whom I`d always been aware of but never
>really listened to much. Great band!
>
>Top 15 most played bands of the year according to lastfm ( `cause I love a
>geeky list! )...
>
>1. Megadeth 966
>2. Slayer 844
>3. Iron Maiden 819
>4. Voivod 641
>5. Kreator 634
>6. Nevermore 502
>7. Manowar 474
>8. Death 429
>9. Municipal Waste 406
>10. Black Sabbath 386
>11. Slough Feg 371
>12. Enslaved 369
>13. Morbid Angel 333
>13. Mastodon 333
>15. Emperor 331
>
>
>
>
>
>
audiophile
> >I don't think voivod has weaker records, just ones you're more in the
> >mood for at the time.
>
> What, across their entire discography? I wouldn`t have had you down for
> someone who gets much from Angel Rat. RRROOOAAARRR is my least favourite
> Voivod after Phobos...which are the only 2 I rarely go back to.
I just listened to Phobos again the other day. It's fantastic ... you
should give it a shot again!
I also agree that Voivod has no bad records, but they are definitely
rankable.
In fact ...
1. Killing Technology
2. Dimension Hatross
3. The Outer Limits
4. Nothingface
5. War and Pain
6. Angel Rat
7. Phobos
8. Voivod
9. Negatron
10. Rooooaarrrrr
11. Katorz
12. Infini
e.
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yup .. looks about right.
audiophile
You haven't heard Seven Churches???
e.
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wait, why am i surprised by this?
audiophile
> > > Sodom, Voivod, Death Angel, Destruction, Nuclear Assault Records are
> > > better than megadeth/metallica IMO
> > >None of these have even come close to Metallica at their best (MoP/
> > >RTtL). If they had found a half decent vocalist maybe I would have
> > >said the same thing about deth. Mustaine is far better guitarist than
> > >Kork and James. Oh what could have been.
>
> > I think Mustaine is one of the greatest vocalists in metal.
>
> I don't really like hetfield or mustaine.
I quite like Hetfield on RTL, MOP and especially AFJA.
His classic bark is among my favorite thrash vocals, in fact.
The entire package, however ... meh
e.
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except the one godly album
audiophile
> A charming outburst. Whilst on a purely technical level Mustaine can hardly
> compete with the Halfords, Dios and Dickinsons of the world his voice is a
> great pissed off sounding thrash metal one. It didn`t work so well when
> Megadeth softened their sound ( although judging by the sales figures it
> would seem many would disagree with me here ) but when making the music he`s
> best at it suits perfectly. The first 4 Megadeth albums are pretty much
> perfect thrash metal and would not improve with a different vocalist.
My favorite Mustaine vocals are actually on SFSGSW.
I love how, as the record progresses, he gets angrier, more drunk/
high, sloppier until almost losing his voice in Hook in Mouth.
I just love that album.
e.
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love it!
audiophile
> 7 Churches is remarkable...although even in a 1985 list I`d put it behind
> Hell Awaits...and I`d have to um and ah for a while over it and Bonded By
> Blood for the no.2 spot.
I like Seven Churches more than Hell Awaits, but then I like Possessed
more than Slayer.
e.
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heresy, I know...
TJ Xenos
I'd agree.
Wyrd
I therefore don't.
E.
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tom.m...@gmail.com
> > > 7 Churches is remarkable...although even in a 1985 list I`d put it behind
> > > Hell Awaits...and I`d have to um and ah for a while over it and Bonded By
> > > Blood for the no.2 spot.
>
> > You Tubing 7 churches right now.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6FZBIZ0Xbs
>
> > Yep, need to get rich, and get 36 hours in a day.
>
> You haven't heard Seven Churches???
>
> e.
> --
> wait, why am i surprised by this?
I didn't know anyone who knew or liked Possessed back in the day,
and it's not exactly like they were on Mtv or the radio to hear. So I
didn't even know of them until way after the fact.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> My favorite Mustaine vocals are actually on SFSGSW.
>
> I love how, as the record progresses, he gets angrier, more drunk/
> high, sloppier until almost losing his voice in Hook in Mouth.
>
> I just love that album.
>
> e.
> --
> love it!
I'm going to have to listen to that album, with that line of
thought. Angrier, more drunk, high, sloppier until almost losing his
voice in Hook in Mouth. Excellent way to put it.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > > I like Seven Churches more than Hell Awaits, but then I like Possessed
> > > more than Slayer.
>
> > > e.
> > > --
> > > heresy, I know...
>
> > I'd agree.
>
> I therefore don't.
>
> E.
> --
Because of e or TJ?
Bomber
"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I had 7 Churches on vinyl. Never really got into it. I'm going to check it
out again. It's got the guitarist from Primus on it. That's hilarious!
Wyrd
Neither. I didn't anyway, never rated Possessed that highly. They
were good, but that's as far as they went.
E.
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I just disagree with the majority of what TJ says.
Soze
>I therefore don't.
When it comes to stuff like this it all just falls into that "fucking
amazing" category where there`s little distinction. 7 Churches is faultless
so whilst I`d have to say I prefer Hell Awaits it`s hardly a criticisum
Soze
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On Jan 4, 9:43 am, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >I don't think voivod has weaker records, just ones you're more in the
> >mood for at the time.
>
> What, across their entire discography? I wouldn`t have had you down for
> someone who gets much from Angel Rat. RRROOOAAARRR is my least favourite
> Voivod after Phobos...which are the only 2 I rarely go back to.
>I just listened to Phobos again the other day. It's fantastic ... you
>should give it a shot again!
I played it last year sometime, it`s OK.
>I also agree that Voivod has no bad records, but they are definitely
>rankable.
>In fact ...
>1. Killing Technology
>2. Dimension Hatross
>3. The Outer Limits
>4. Nothingface
>5. War and Pain
>6. Angel Rat
>7. Phobos
>8. Voivod
>9. Negatron
>10. Rooooaarrrrr
>11. Katorz
>12. Infini
1. Dimension Hatross
2. Killing Technology
3. Nothingface
4. The Outer Limits
5. Angel Rat
6. War and Pain
7. Voivod
8. Infini
9. Katorz
10. RRROOOAAARRR
11. Negatron
12. Phobos
Soze
They`ve been doing that for a while, played the first 2 albums all the way
through at a gig in London last year.
SG
> After much deliberation and head scratching I present my Top 25! I`m sure
> I`ll disagree with it if I look back in a couple months time...
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My Top 20 for 2009 goes as follows... (in alphabetical order)
3 Inches of Blood: Here Waits Thy Doom
Amorphis: Skyforger
Artillery: When Death Comes
Avulsed: Nullo
Blood Red Throne: Souls of Damnation
Dying Fetus : Descend Into Depravity
Ektomorph: What Doesn’t Kill Me…
Evile: Infected Nations
Gama bomb: Tales From the Grave In Space
Gwar: Lust in Space
Kreator: Hordes of Chaos
Megadeth: Endgame
Necrodeath: Phylogenesis
Obituary: Darkest Day
Overkill: Ironbound
Redemption: Snowfall on Judgment Day
Slayer: World Painted Blood
Static-X: Cult of Static
Warbringer: Waking Into Nightmares
Wolf: Ravenous
SG
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > You haven't heard Seven Churches???
>
> > e.
> > --
> > wait, why am i surprised by this?
> > I didn't know anyone who knew or liked Possessed back in the day,
> >and it's not exactly like they were on Mtv or the radio to hear. So I
> >didn't even know of them until way after the fact.
>
> >Tom
>
> I had 7 Churches on vinyl. Never really got into it. I'm going to check it
> out again. It's got the guitarist from Primus on it. That's hilarious!
I didn't know that. That is funny.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > Because of e or TJ?
>
> Neither. I didn't anyway, never rated Possessed that highly. They
> were good, but that's as far as they went.
>
> E.
> --
> I just disagree with the majority of what TJ says.
Just for sport?
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
> > I`ve always loved the big 4. As I`ve gotten older I probably appreciate
> > early Megadeth even more...to the point I largely prefer them to Metallica
> > now. I`ve always loved the raaw stuff as well though, loved all that early
> > Kreator and Celtic Frost stuff from the get go.
> > Did you see, Apparently Testament is going to play The Legacy in
> >it's entirety on the next tour.
>
> They`ve been doing that for a while, played the first 2 albums all the way
> through at a gig in London last year.
Guess I missed that before.
Tom
No news, then.
audiophile
I love Primus, but Larry Lalonde is a class A douchebag for denouncing
Possessed.
e.
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that's what happens when metalheads "mature"...
Wyrd
Not really. I just find that I am generally in disagreement with most
things he says. He likes raw, I like polish, he likes dissonance and
I like melody, he doesn't like mainstream and I couldn't give a fuck
if a band is underground or playing to millions. He likes punk, I
detest punk in every shape and form.
E.
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tom.m...@gmail.com
Makes sense, then. I sort of like stuff from all over the place.
Although I don't like punk. I don't like Grunge, nu-metal or Metalcore
either.
But I generally can listen to almost anything labeled Traditional
metal, thrash, death, gothic, and such.
Tom
tom.m...@gmail.com
I thought the Black album is what happens when metalheads mature.
But so be it.
Tom
I hate it when performers distance themselves from previous works.
Well, if Priest would do that with Turbo, it would be welcome. I guess
Celtic Frost and Cold Lake as well. But they already disown it.
Soze
>Tom
Mustaine kind of distances himself from Risk...always says he thinks it`s a
great record for what it is but should never have been released as a
Megadeth album. Tom Warrior has always said Cold Lake was where he was at
the time but again, that it just isn`t what a Frost album should be.
LaLonde pretty much likes to pretend he never had anything to do with
Possessed, almost as if it was something silly he did when he was an
immature kid...which is a shame as most people would be proud to have made
an album seen as legendary by so many people. 7 Churches is, IMO, the first
ever death metal album and helped begin an entire scene.
Soze
There aren`t many guitar based genres of music I detest really...I don`t
like metalcore, nu-metal etc. but if it`s on in the background it isn`t
going to really bother me like some modern R&B or happy hardcore house music
would. I like quite a lot of punk, mostly early British stuff like The
Skids, The Jam etc. ...love the Dead Kennedys as well. I don`t like much in
the way of gothic metal but I do quite like some of those old 80`s bands
that the term `goth` used to be used for...although I didn`t particularly at
the time.
I usually consider myself a fan of melody but then...there isn`t much melody
to be found on Reign in Blood and it`s my favourite ever album...and I like
a lot of noisy death and black metal where melody is conspicuous by it`s
abscence. Not easy to label my tastes really, if it`s good I like it!
cailinsdad
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> >2. Immortal - All Shall Fall
>>
>> I`m a tad disappointed with this in retrospect but it`s still an album I
>> like a lot.
>
>> I don't know if I would say disappointed, but I have managed about 5
>>listens. Which is probably at least 50 less than Sons got. Decide what
>>to think from that.
>
>It`s hit 17 listens for me...I`m judging it on the quality of Immortal`s
>back catalogue I guess. It`s not as good as the bulk of it.
I agree with that but it's still better than most of what was released
this year. SotND was so good this was bound to be a letdown I guess.
tom.m...@gmail.com
> Mustaine kind of distances himself from Risk...always says he thinks it`s a
> great record for what it is but should never have been released as a
> Megadeth album. Tom Warrior has always said Cold Lake was where he was at
> the time but again, that it just isn`t what a Frost album should be.
>
> LaLonde pretty much likes to pretend he never had anything to do with
> Possessed, almost as if it was something silly he did when he was an
> immature kid...which is a shame as most people would be proud to have made
> an album seen as legendary by so many people. 7 Churches is, IMO, the first
> ever death metal album and helped begin an entire scene.
That's pretty stupid. He could be diplomatic and say that anyone who
likes/loves the albums, that is great, and sort of leave it at that.
Tom
Guess no re-union is likely, then
tom.m...@gmail.com
> I don`t like much in
> the way of gothic metal but I do quite like some of those old 80`s bands
> that the term `goth` used to be used for...although I didn`t particularly at
> the time.
What bands would that be, a short list. You like lists.
> I usually consider myself a fan of melody but then...there isn`t much melody
> to be found on Reign in Blood and it`s my favourite ever album...and I like
> a lot of noisy death and black metal where melody is conspicuous by it`s
> abscence. Not easy to label my tastes really, if it`s good I like it!
I do find I listen more to melodic type stuff than the less or non-
melodic type stuff.
Tom
Wyrd
As SoND is still my album of the decade, then agreed that All Shall
Fall had to fucking exceptional to top it and thus where the
disappointment comes in. Having said that, it's rooted itself in my
5disc cd player and doesn't like being replaced for quite some time.
The missus wants rid of my old stereo, but I am hanging on to it for
dear life. I have told her the only thing that will replace it will
be a DAB/Wi-Fi/Ipod docking station combo unit. She hates going in
the car, as that has a 5 disc changer in and I won't let her put her
crap in it. Opethx2/Testament/Slayer and Iced Earth are keeping her
crap out.
E.
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Wyrd
Give me melody any day of the week. Something hummable is good, or at
least something memorable, rather than random notes plucked out of
thin air. Music should be enjoyed rather than endured.
E.
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See Ihsahn I am looking at you and your fucking stupid Sax.
Wyrd
Kelly Shaefer of Atheist was pretty much the same once he was
Neurotica and only after a number of other bands started up on their
reunions did they start work on an Atheist reunion.
E.
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Wonders if 2010 will see a new Atheist album?
TJ Xenos
> detest punk in every shape and form.
>
> E.
> --
And yet you're posting this in a newgroup dedicated to a band that
would not exist without US punk/hardcore. O the irony.
TJ Xenos
> thin air. Music should be enjoyed rather than endured.
I agree. Which is why I listen to discharge and not opeth.
Soze
>Tom
The lead singer of Possessed was shot and is paralysed from the waist down.
Over the last few years he`s been touring with Sadistic Intent and playing
Possessed songs. This was filmed by my good self...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=cpYJD0wXsnM
Soze
They were supposed to bring a new album out last year so I`m guessing we`ll
definately see it this.
Wyrd
I have never heard Undisputed Attitude and hopefully never will. I
can listen to a band and not feel the desire to follow their
influences into genres I know I don't like. So Slayer like punk
*shrugs* I am not sycophantic enough to like everything they like.
E.
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Wyrd
And why I would never listen to about 90% of your playlists.
E.
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I am probably being rather generous there.
Wyrd
Depends on what caused the delays. They started this all of in 08, it
really shouldn't take that long to make an album, unless you're a
pretentious twat like one A. Rose.
E.
Soze
What about Testament and Morbid Angel??
Soze
Slayer`s love of punk is quite obvious just listening to their normal stuff
tbh. There`s a lot of punk in thrash...although thinking on it not so much
the bands you like...stuff like Nuclear Assault, Overkill, DRI all has
massive punk influence.
Soze
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I`m surprised you`ve never even bothered to listen to UA, I`ll always check
out anything Slayer record. How do you know you don`t like it if you`ve
never even heard it?
Wyrd
Well with Testament the delays were all about Chucks recovery.
Anyway, even with long periods between albums there is usually some
information leaked about what the band is up to, but with Atheist I
haven't really seen that much (on a new album).
E.
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Are Morbid Angel even relevant anymore?
Wyrd
I should clarify, I have never heard more than one song from it, which
I detested. Why should I waste time and/or money on something that I
know I won't like?
E.
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Plenty of better music to listen to.
Wyrd
I have never been a fan of crossover. I grow easily bored with NA,
Overkill are okay, but for me they never produced an absolute killer
album (A RiB/MoP). Saying that the new Overkill album is rather good
and I just hear a thrash album rather than any punk/hardcore
influences.
E.
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I will go to the nth degree to avoid stuff I detest.
Soze
He`d completely recovered from that by 2003.
>Anyway, even with long periods between albums there is usually some
>information leaked about what the band is up to, but with Atheist I
>haven't really seen that much (on a new album).
There`s been stuff, I remember reading that they were covering YYZ by Rush
for it...just checked their website and there are posts about the album,
saying how amazing it is and the usual gumph...but the last one was a while
back in `09 and said the album should be out `later in the year`.
>Are Morbid Angel even relevant anymore?
I`m looking forward to a new MA album now that Vincent is back. Seen them a
couple of times since they`ve reformed and they`ve been amazing. I`ll admit
there`s a reasonable chance of it being a disappointment but they remain one
of the few death metal bands I can get excited about.
Soze
I like some of the album, I know it`s get a bad rep but there are songs on
it that just sound like usual fast Slayer songs. The whole things pretty
throwaway in truth but as I said, I`ll always check out a Slayer release.
Wyrd
I kind of suspect it took more out of him than we think. I am still
recovering from everything that happened to me last year and while I
want to be back to normal as soon as possible, it just isn't possible.
Anyway you kind of missed the point with GnR and it taking 15 years
for an album. Or maybe you just want to be argumentative...;-)
>
> >Anyway, even with long periods between albums there is usually some
> >information leaked about what the band is up to, but with Atheist I
> >haven't really seen that much (on a new album).
>
> There`s been stuff, I remember reading that they were covering YYZ by Rush
> for it...just checked their website and there are posts about the album,
> saying how amazing it is and the usual gumph...but the last one was a while
> back in `09 and said the album should be out `later in the year`.
The only things I saw was on Blabbermouth and that was mainly about
their touring plans.
>
> >Are Morbid Angel even relevant anymore?
>
> I`m looking forward to a new MA album now that Vincent is back. Seen them a
> couple of times since they`ve reformed and they`ve been amazing. I`ll admit
> there`s a reasonable chance of it being a disappointment but they remain one
> of the few death metal bands I can get excited about.
I was very disappointed in most of the Tucker stuff. I only tend to
play two of their albums Altars and Covenant, but those two just blows
away every other DM album out there. So for me they last produced
something spectacular 16 years ago.
E.
--
Domination is good, just not that good.
Wyrd
I heard one song, and that was enough for me. I know of Slayer's
influences, but I just don't need to hear them to enjoy Slayer.
E.
--
Soze
On Jan 9, 4:23 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> "Wyrd" <Wyr...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> > What about Testament and Morbid Angel??
> >Well with Testament the delays were all about Chucks recovery.
>
> He`d completely recovered from that by 2003.
>I kind of suspect it took more out of him than we think. I am still
>recovering from everything that happened to me last year and while I
>want to be back to normal as soon as possible, it just isn't possible.
I saw them live in 2003 and he looked in fine fettle.
>Anyway you kind of missed the point with GnR and it taking 15 years
>for an album. Or maybe you just want to be argumentative...;-)
Well, I was just pointing out another couple of bands that took
ages...telling Testament to hurry up was something of a favourite AMS sport
IIRC!!
> >Anyway, even with long periods between albums there is usually some
> >information leaked about what the band is up to, but with Atheist I
> >haven't really seen that much (on a new album).
>
> There`s been stuff, I remember reading that they were covering YYZ by Rush
> for it...just checked their website and there are posts about the album,
> saying how amazing it is and the usual gumph...but the last one was a
> while
> back in `09 and said the album should be out `later in the year`.
>The only things I saw was on Blabbermouth and that was mainly about
>their touring plans.
Commented ATHEIST/GNOSTIC drummer Steve Flynn: "We're absolutely thrilled
that both GNOSTIC and ATHEIST are officially signed to Season of Mist!
GNOSTIC's debut CD, 'Engineering the Rule', will be released before the
summer and ATHEIST's yet-untitled CD will be released later in the year.
"Season really stepped up to the plate to get this done, for this is also a
highly unique situation for technical death metal. Three members of GNOSTIC
are also in ATHEIST. With me on drums for both bands, Chris Baker on lead
guitar for both and Jonathan Thompson on bass for GNOSTIC and guitar for
ATHEIST, these signings represent very significant personal milestones for
everybody involved.
"For me, the GNOSTIC debut CD is the first, and ONLY, new project I've been
involved with since ATHEIST's 'Unquestionable Presence' in 1992. For Kelly
Shaefer and me it is the first time that we will collaborate on new ATHEIST
material, also since 1992's 'Unquestionable Presence'. We'll be bringing in
our old friend and ATHEIST bassist Tony Choy for writing and touring as
well. Signing both bands is also a unique coup for Season of Mist and
indicative of their cutting-edge attitude. Both bands will be touring
together in 2009 in the U.S. and Europe, which means that we will be pulling
double duty every night!!"
Were doing a cover of YYZ on the new Atheist record we are going to record a
blazing cover of the brilliant YYZ from Rush, as you all know we have long
been fans of rush, and we know this cover is a bit outside the box of what
most metal bands do, but then again as a band we are very outside the box of
what most metal bands do. And i can confirm that it will fucking destroy,
and when people hear flynn/s version of this tune....He renders me
speechless, he has always claimed Neil Peart as a major influence, and so it
makes perfect sense to cover this amazing piece of music. i thought I would
share that with you, along with the fact that we are working hard on
compiling the riffs that will soon set the technical metal world on their
asses. We will not rest till we have made the record that we and you all
hope for when listening to technical metal, it will be a punishing, brutal
display of all we have to give..... rest assured there will not be one
stitch of vaginal metal on this motherfucker! and then in 2009 were coming
for your brains fuckers! Horns to the motherfucking sky! Atheist 2009!
> >Are Morbid Angel even relevant anymore?
>
> I`m looking forward to a new MA album now that Vincent is back. Seen them
> a
> couple of times since they`ve reformed and they`ve been amazing. I`ll
> admit
> there`s a reasonable chance of it being a disappointment but they remain
> one
> of the few death metal bands I can get excited about.
>I was very disappointed in most of the Tucker stuff. I only tend to
>play two of their albums Altars and Covenant, but those two just blows
>away every other DM album out there. So for me they last produced
>something spectacular 16 years ago.
>Domination is good, just not that good.
What about Blessed are the Sick? An amazing album. Yeah I found the Tucker
stuff fairly dull...although Formulas is pretty good...I love all 4 of the
albums with Vincent so I`m hopeful they can pull something out of the hat
when they record again. I liked the new song they were playing live.
cailinsdad
wrote:
>> > Abigail � � Sweet Baby Metal Slut
>>
>> � wtf? Never heard tell of this.
>
>Raw black metal/thrash from japan. If you like Bathory, Sabbat (jp),
>and early toxic holocaust...
Then I will likey.