First Rasta-affiliated Reggae artist/song
Guava Baby
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> This is probably an old hat in this ng:
> I wonder who was the first Reggae singer who showed that affinity to
> Rastafarianism that Reggae got famous for in the seventies ?
> Or were there already ska/rocksteady artists who converted to Rasta ?
Yeah, some of the Skatalites were Rastas from at least the early 1960s.
> I also wonder if you could give credit to a song as the very first
> "Rasta-inspired" ska/rocksteady/reggae song...
That I can't help you with, but I'd bet my last dollar that someone on
rec.music.reggae knows.
Leigh
Guava Baby
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> That I can't help you with, but I'd bet my last dollar that someone on
> rec.music.reggae knows.
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> Leigh
Heh, heh -oops. Didn't notice that this was cross posted. I was replying
from ams.
Leigh
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Hibbert was the first to use the word "Reggae" in a song, or the first to
record such a song.....in "Do The Reggae".....if that is of any matter
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Soul Skin
a song called "I Stand Predominant", which was apparently their
first time using "I and I" or something like that.
Billy
Ras Adam
are often credited as one of the 1st to slow down rocksetady
into reggae. but that was instrumental music. a
Marcus
sang to rudeboys or skinheads when tehy weren't. I think the first one of the
first was Laurel Aitkens Ska Song, Mt Zion or a different one who's name
escapes me which were in '61. A Few of The Skatalites became Rastas, Some early
Justin Hinds songs were in the rasta theme too as were the wailers, but I don't
think rastafarianism was that big in JA until Rastafari came in 65. I am not
100% positive on this, so don't get mad if I'm wrong.
>This is probably an old hat in this ng:
>I wonder who was the first Reggae singer who showed that affinity to
>Rastafarianism that Reggae got famous for in the seventies ?
>Or were there already ska/rocksteady artists who converted to Rasta ?
>
>I also wonder if you could give credit to a song as the very first
>"Rasta-inspired" ska/rocksteady/reggae song...
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>Henne
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Marcus
>don drummond was a rastaman and his band skatalites
>are often credited as one of the 1st to slow down rocksetady
>into reggae. but that was instrumental music. a
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Actually I don't think don Drummond was Rasta(though some of the Skatalites
were). Also They broke up, before anyone played rocksteady. I don't know who
did, but I know it wasn't the skatalites
Kyle
>"Rasta-inspired" ska/rocksteady/reggae song...
There are alot of pre-ska and jump-up feeling tunes out there by the Mellow
Cats (I love "Another Moses") and others. The earliest one I can think of
being ska/rocksteady would be "Rasta Shake Them Up" by The Wailers, "I Stand
Predominate" was another Wailers tune referring to Rasta.
Justin Hinds had strong leanings in that area it seems as well.
Peace,
Kyle
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Marcus
>: are often credited as one of the 1st to slow down rocksetady
>: into reggae.
>
>rocksteady to reggae is generally pegged as happening in 1968, three years
>after the Skatalites broke up. Steve Barrow makes a good case for songs
>like "People Funny Boy" and "Pop a Top" as being among the first songs to
>use the new reggae rhythm (which was initally faster than rocksteady,
>actually).
I'd say People funny boy, is almost undisputed as the first reggae song, but I
really don't think The the skatalites played any rocksteady. I also don't
think the change is ever credited in 1968. I mean Shanty Town, and Train To
Skaville(which I would say is rocksteady) Tougher Than Tough all were made in
67. The general thing I hear is that the long hot summer of 66 made people
want somehting slower to dance to, so that's when the beat changed. I may be
wrong about the skatalites, but Ive never heard anyone say ska became
rocksteady in 68, as some people cite reggae in 67.
Kyle
>were).
Nope, I believe he was the first rastas in the Skatalites
Also They broke up, before anyone played rocksteady. I don't know
>who
>did, but I know it wasn't the skatalites
When I listen to "Schooling The Duke" it sounds to me like rocksteady. It
has never really been brought up by anyone, but I have always thought that it
should be considered the first.
SkaNsoul
>I wonder who was the first Reggae singer who showed that affinity to
>Rastafarianism that Reggae got famous for in the seventies ?
>Or were there already ska/rocksteady artists who converted to Rasta ?
>
>"Rasta-inspired" ska/rocksteady/reggae song...
>
>
>
The Skatalites members Jah Jerry (guitarist) and trumpet player Dizzy Moore
were already converted rastas in the days of ska. Also Slim Smith from The
Techniques was a rasta in the days of rocksteady. Justin Hinds' "Carry Go
Bring Come" has some rasta reference in it. The Wailing Wailers down at Studio
One were singing "Rasta Shook Them Up" back in like 64 or 65. And you cant
forget the rasta group who was early in the recording history of Jamaican
music, The Mystic Reveleations of Rastafari.
Kyle
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>Hibbert was the first to use the word "Reggae" in a song
This is true.
>I don't know about rasta
Yes he is a Rasta as well.
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Mick Sleeper
ptp...@aol.communazi (Marcus ) wrote:
> >after the Skatalites broke up. Steve Barrow makes a good case for
> > songs like "People Funny Boy" and "Pop a Top" as being among the
> > first songs to use the new reggae rhythm (which was initally faster
> > I'd say People funny boy, is almost undisputed as the first reggae
> > song, but I really don't think The the skatalites played any
> > rocksteady. I also don't think the change is ever credited in 1968.
When we're talking about the first Rasta reggae songs, do we *reggae* or
do we meaN "Jamaican music"? ie) there are plenty of songs from the ska
era that had Rasta themes/lyrics in them (The Reburial Of Marcus Garvey,
Carry Go Bring Come, Oh Carolina).
As far as the first reggae song, nobody has ever discussed my claim that
Lee Perry's "Please Don't Go" from 1965 uses the reggae beat - and even
before rocksteady! And Scratch's production of "Long Shot" (1967) by The
Pioneers also uses the beat, which I describe as the "ka-chunka, ka-
chunka, ka-chunka" skank played out on a guitar or piano.
So if "People Funny Boy" is considered the first, I consider it the
third! Either way, Scratch had the sound...
Mick Sleeper
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Marcus
>Toots
>Hibbert was the first to use the word "Reggae" in a song
Just to nit pick, he used "reggay"
SkaNsoul
>Lee Perry's "Please Don't Go" from 1965 uses the reggae beat - and even
>before rocksteady! And Scratch's production of "Long Shot" (1967) by The
>Pioneers also uses the beat, which I describe as the "ka-chunka, ka-
>chunka, ka-chunka" skank played out on a guitar or piano.
>
>So if "People Funny Boy" is considered the first, I consider it the
>third! Either way, Scratch had the sound...
>
>Mick Sleeper
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"Nanny Goat" by Larry and Alvin used the reggae beat pretty early, not as early
as "Please dont go", but it was before "Do the Reggay". "No More Heartaches"
by The Beltones used the reggae beat really early also.
Kyle
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Brian J Aulisio
: Just to nit pick, he used "reggay"
Damn, minus two points for me! No, but seriously, I am going to bring
up a discussion that has been discussed many times before.....
Is reggae faster than rocksteady? Bob Marley is quoted as to saying
yes....I tend to agree if you are listening to the drum set.....now if
your meter is based on the guitar skank, then the answer would be a
resounding 'hell no, reggae is slower!'........I have always thought that
(generally of course) that rocksteady, tempo wise, is slower than the
ska.....of course there are other differences......now there are some
tunes you cannot tell apart between RS and Reggae unless you look to the
box to tell you.......
But generally, I see rocksteady as a slower ska, perhaps with a
different drumbeat, but with the guitar skank still on the "and" of each
beat......a lot of reggae, on the other hand, seems to have a faster drum
tempo, but the guitar skank is on the 2 and 4 beats, with a "one-drop" on
beat number 3.........
......this is all rather general, there are exceptions to everything, just
like the English language.......so, what's the word?
Marcus
I'd say generally earlier skinhead reggae up until maybe 71 was faster. Since
then it kind of depended, some of it was faster some was slower, a lot of the
roots stuff is really slow, as is lots of dub. Dancehall is usually faster,
but I guess some people won't call that reggae, so whatever
Netweasel
it depends. did you poke holes in the muffler?
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