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SAXBOY  
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 More options Feb 8 2007, 10:30 pm
Newsgroups: alt.music.saxophone
From: "SAXBOY" <gvsax...@aol.com>
Date: 8 Feb 2007 19:30:38 -0800
Local: Thurs, Feb 8 2007 10:30 pm
Subject: Dave is a bad person
I believe this to be true and know Dave has been in regular contact
with me, took nearly 20 Grand and delivered nothing. I have reported
it to the FBI, local authorities and been in contact with others with
even bigger stories to tell.

Dave has been very bad and is no longer to be trusted. Any contact
with Dave could be very bad.

I believe 2007 will be a very bad year for the person of Guardala, and
I hope the products live on forever.

Happy fighting over who will end up with the rights to his name.

SAXBOY


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Guardala is a bad person" by SAXBOY
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 More options Feb 8 2007, 11:35 pm
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From: "SAXBOY" <gvsax...@aol.com>
Date: 8 Feb 2007 20:35:05 -0800
Local: Thurs, Feb 8 2007 11:35 pm
Subject: Re: Guardala is a bad person
On Feb 8, 7:30 pm, "SAXBOY" <gvsax...@aol.com> wrote:

> I believe this to be true and know Dave has been in regular contact
> with me, took nearly 20 Grand and delivered nothing. I have reported
> it to the FBI, local authorities and been in contact with others with
> even bigger stories to tell.

> Dave has been very bad and is no longer to be trusted. Any contact
> with Dave could be very bad.

> I believe 2007 will be a very bad year for the person of Guardala, and
> I hope the products live on forever.

> Happy fighting over who will end up with the rights to his name.

> SAXBOY

Sorry, new to this group. Thought I was responding to a thread started
by Zachary, but started one that made no sense out of context.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.saxophone/browse_thread/thre...

I ran accross Zachary on SaxOnTheWeb on a thread 'Guardala Business'.
The post was not very specific but since I had been dealing with and
was worried about Guardala, I private emailed Zachary. The response
was not good. I asked very general qestions and he responded with the
exact thing I was worried about. He said vintage saxes and mouthpieces
had been promised and not delivered and there where others too. --
Yea, ME TOO!

I hoped against hope that he was a mistake or something, but as
delivery dates came and went, Dave stopped calling and it has been 3
weeks now with no word or call. My calls, emails and faxes have gone
unanswered.
Since then, I have run accross a lot of Guardala issues and have taken
the matter to the FBI, local authorities and now online.

People must not get caught in the deception any longer. I don't know
why others have not gone public with the Guardala Scams but I know I
must. It is wrong and must stop!!!!

I will have a site up with the whole story soon and a blog so others
can feel more comfortable sharing their Guardala stories.

You not stupid for believing a legend and Guardala was a legend. I'm a
big enough man to say I got caught up and burned. If there was
anything online to warn me, I would not be looking at the grim future
I must now endure. PLEASE -- If you get caught in a scam, share it
online to help prevent others from being burned too.

SAXBOY


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Dave is a bad person" by ansermetniac
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 More options Feb 9 2007, 12:26 am
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From: ansermetniac <ansermetn...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:26:40 -0500
Local: Fri, Feb 9 2007 12:26 am
Subject: Re: Dave is a bad person
On 8 Feb 2007 19:30:38 -0800, "SAXBOY" <gvsax...@aol.com> wrote:

>I believe this to be true and know Dave has been in regular contact
>with me, took nearly 20 Grand and delivered nothing. I have reported
>it to the FBI, local authorities and been in contact with others with
>even bigger stories to tell.

>Dave has been very bad and is no longer to be trusted. Any contact
>with Dave could be very bad.

>I believe 2007 will be a very bad year for the person of Guardala, and
>I hope the products live on forever.

>Happy fighting over who will end up with the rights to his name.

>SAXBOY

Do YOU have a name. Please email me with your real name and the
details

Abbedd


 
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 More options Feb 9 2007, 2:17 am
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From: "SAXBOY" <gvsax...@aol.com>
Date: 8 Feb 2007 23:17:36 -0800
Local: Fri, Feb 9 2007 2:17 am
Subject: Re: Dave is a bad person
On Feb 8, 9:26 pm, ansermetniac <ansermetn...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Sorry - made a profile and have been very online for years as SAXBOY -
www.saxboy.us.
Greg Vail - www.gregvail.com

 
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 More options Feb 9 2007, 7:26 pm
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From: "Shang" <spiceth...@yahoo.com>
Date: 9 Feb 2007 16:26:46 -0800
Local: Fri, Feb 9 2007 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: Dave is a bad person
Sorry to hear about this, Greg.
Would you mind giving some more details of how this thing unfolded?

On Feb 9, 8:17 am, "SAXBOY" <gvsax...@aol.com> wrote:


 
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 More options Feb 9 2007, 11:25 pm
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From: "SAXBOY" <gvsax...@aol.com>
Date: 9 Feb 2007 20:25:28 -0800
Local: Fri, Feb 9 2007 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: Dave is a bad person
On Feb 9, 4:26 pm, "Shang" <spiceth...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Shang - Working on it. Just need a few minutes to read thru the FBI
file and make a few edits. The story is now writen with dates and
details. It will be up Monday AM at www.daveguardala.net - clearly
drawing the line between Dave Guardala the person and the Dave
Guardala product lines from the past and present. Amazing products -
very lame guy.

SAXBOY


 
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 More options Feb 12 2007, 11:41 am
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From: "Phil_Barone" <philbar...@philbarone.com>
Date: 12 Feb 2007 08:41:19 -0800
Local: Mon, Feb 12 2007 11:41 am
Subject: Re: Dave is a bad person
On Feb 9, 11:25 pm, "SAXBOY" <gvsax...@aol.com> wrote:

I viewed the site but I don't find it clear as to what Guardala did.
After he disappeared though I had a bunch of customers come to me all
saying that they sent him money but never got a mouthpiece. Phil

 
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 More options Feb 12 2007, 1:38 pm
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From: "Steve Marshall" <s...@atmos.plusBlockA.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:38:07 -0000
Local: Mon, Feb 12 2007 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: Dave is a bad person

"Phil_Barone" <philbar...@philbarone.com> wrote

> I viewed the site but I don't find it clear as to what Guardala did.
> After he disappeared though I had a bunch of customers come to me all
> saying that they sent him money but never got a mouthpiece. Phil

The relevant info has only just appeared. Have another look !

Steve M


 
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 More options Feb 16 2007, 3:57 pm
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From: tom...@yahoo.com
Date: 16 Feb 2007 12:57:43 -0800
Local: Fri, Feb 16 2007 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: Dave is a bad person
Interesting and scary story on your site.  Really sorry it happened.

Back in 1984, a freshman friend of mine at North Texas got scammed out
of $275 by Dave, who claimed, on the phone, he was going to sell him,
one of Mike Brecker's old metal Links, the one he used in the 1970s--
he never sent it, then offered to send him one of his newly created
DGs, then didnt send THAT either!!!

Sounds like the same scam, but much higher stakes!!!   Horrible stuff!


 
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