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Re: GOODSONS PUPPET SHOW IS UP AND RUNNING AGAIN AT NATION OF MIMIC

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ansermetniac

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Apr 19, 2009, 11:58:22 PM4/19/09
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:14:35 -0700 (PDT), jbt...@yahoo.com wrote:

>Two reliable sources inside Orpheus music have confirmed that Goodson
>was "let go" by the owner John J. Shaw

What happened to Gavigan?

Goodson can get first sales with new products. He can't get repeat
sales because no amount of marketing bullshit can make up for inferior
products.

He is not the only one in this business who has that problem

Goodson was shown the door at Unison too.

Confucious say--man who shellac pads for 30 years and then suddenly
morph into design engineer, must be full of shit

Abbedd

Jerry

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Apr 23, 2009, 12:26:36 PM4/23/09
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Wow.

I'm glad I didn't recommend Goodson to anyone I know. I'm in a small
community volunteer band, and some of our sax guys were looking for a
place to get some minor repair and reconditioning done (I'm a
percussionist). I'm about the youngest member of the band at 39 and
they all knew I was on the internet and asked me to see if I could
find someone. I searched and came across Goodson, but did further
searching and found out he's got a really rotten rep.

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Joe Blow

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Apr 23, 2009, 10:16:53 PM4/23/09
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On Apr 23, 7:59 pm, jbt...@yahoo.com wrote:
 If you are looking for a good
> saxophone tech in your area,  I would recommend going to the NAPBIRT
> website and checking using the "Tech Locator" feature.  http://www.napbirt.org/
>
> John

And even then ask around and talk to a few satitfied.....or
unsatisfied... customers. While the NAPBIRT organization has lofty
slogans the individual members run the full gamut from skilled,
dedicated, expert in the field to slipshod hack looking to make a
buck. Most, as you'd expect, fall somewhere in the middle. Short of
checking in your horn and seeing how it comes out for yourself, first
hand experience with the shop in question from others is your best
indicator regardless of the shop's professional organization
affiliations.

You might consider running through the archives at SOTW and see what
turns up. To be taken with a grain of salt to be sure but certainly a
decent supplement to the NAPBIRT listings.

saxxs...@yahoo.com

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Apr 24, 2009, 12:33:45 AM4/24/09
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Hey henry. I ordered one of the gold tenors in the recent fire sale.
It has made me put aside the saxgourmet tenor. Sound is slightly
warmer and upper range is fuller , palm keys have better intonation
and altissimmo is much easier. Really a great horn. I still slighty
prefer the sound of the saxgourmet and would use that for a jazz only
gig. You ordered one too?

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saxxs...@yahoo.com

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Apr 24, 2009, 7:49:13 AM4/24/09
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On Apr 24, 1:18 am, jbt...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hey Chuck.  The topic of this thread is Steve Goodson masquerading as
> other people on his forum and having conversations with himself.  If
> you would like to discuss Goodson's saxophones, you are certainly
> welcome to start your own thread on that topic.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I hear a nat buzzing around, anybody else hear it?

Joe Blow

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Apr 24, 2009, 9:13:14 AM4/24/09
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Chuck-
I did- at the price it was too good to pass on and I wanted to see
what the final result of the "Steve Goodson" tenor product line was.

-I note that the "altissimo" mechanism design for the neck/ body lever
interface was cleaned up quite a bit. The 'as delivered" set up
quality was, as on every horn I've gotten from Noteworthy, mediocre to
dismal. After resetting a couple of pads the horn plays very well
<enjoy yours and play it in good health> - as does most of the current
crop of Chinese (both mainland and Taiwanese) horns aimed at the 1500
buck or so mark.

-The horn, at 600 bucks, was a great deal. In my case I bought it to
examine and, as it happens, am reselling at the same price as I need
another tenor like a hole in the head. As with the Cannonball
Vintage, bought/examined/sold, I like to actually physically hold and
live with a horn before I pass judgement on it. Some are apparantly
able to do so without ever actually touching the instrument......

-The market appears to go from the Goodson "glitz laden plays well
lots of design 'features' but priced low low low and iffy iffy iffy"
through the Barone et al solid horn well made and in good trim as
delivered through the Cannonball very well set up, gimmicky, and
priced to reflect the faux "artistic merit" factor as well as the good
QC. Barone probably the best overall bet, Goodson for the adventurous
and want a bargain, Cannonball for the "want the horn to stand out and
want it all set" and willing to pay for the convenience crowd.

-The new Goodson all copper horns -have not tried one and won't until
they too take that 70% purchase price plunge to 600 bucks or so- are
out there as "I <personally, based upon vendor track record> wouldn't
touch one without seeing and playing the horn I was about to buy in
person and having just won a medium lottery.....

Henry


Joe Blow

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Apr 24, 2009, 11:47:13 AM4/24/09
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