Where has LL, Dijaldi and the rest gone?
Shang
come over and take a spin...
no censoring.... on the contrary to that site which we all know so well (SOTW).
Winford Barnett
there as commiepinko, along with grumps, crouch, and other people who've
been banished from sotw for misbehaving and acting like idiots. There's no
real saxophone information, just inside jokes and bitching and vulgarity.
What a bunch of children! Take a look for yourself. Pathetic! I guess you
can judge them by the company they keep. Nobody else will have them. Good
riddance.
P. Tung
"State your real name, anonymous coward! And behave as I decree! Or I will
threaten your life like the clown I am!"
Let me think.... Should I regard your chickenshit little post as any form
of insight, or truth, worth meditating upon?
OK: I am done thinking.
lolol
You are creating problems for yourself by insisting on seeking vengeance.
My advice to you is to drop the matter.
On the "off" and bizarre chance that this is one of "the trolls" - or a true
troll - trying to stir the pot: why would you do that?
I fought the good fight, and the law won, lol.
Just drop it, and it will be dropped.
I can't do anything about Grumps and people like that who continue to pester
you, and I have nothing to do with it. My position: those who tried to
make a victim of me have been properly and truly exposed. Leave me alone
and as far as the matter is concerned it is better left alone.
The truth is out of the bag.
Posture all you like, you can't change that.
"Winford Barnett" <winford...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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P. Tung
problems, all this time?
People being fed up with you, and refusing to bow to your constant and
impassioned malevolence?
Or your own repulsive actions and intentions, coupled with your nasty little
terror pogroms?
Think it over. You'll see who your real enemy is.
It's you and your own petty hypocrisies and vengeful malevolence. It's
always been you, causing problems for yourself by trying to push others
around. That is your own true enemy: your own ego, your own avarice, your
own lack of conscience.
"P. Tung" <pt...@nobspaam.justsaxes.com> wrote in message
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P. Tung
Manx"-like appearance of "Winford" and "his" posts made me think something
might be out of place, like a set-up, about his posts.
There seem only to have been a total of 3 posts ever made on usenet by a
"Winford Barnett," and one of the other two is to what appears to be a
"perversion and fetish" ng. I'm not posting a link to it for reasons that
will be obvious to adults.
Anyhow, it seems to me too idiotic and "self-exposing" a goof for one of "I
Am The Sax Lord And You Will Bow To Me, And My Amiable Front" bunch to make,
posting a "test" to the sex-perversion group, and then coming here to post
the troll to which I replied, along with an answer to a relatively marginal
vintage horn question.
I am willing to believe I was trolled on this one.
I stand by what I said, in particular the "just drop it and it will be
dropped" aspect, but I'm willing to believe the original post was a set-up.
"P. Tung" <pt...@nobspaam.justsaxes.com> wrote in message
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Winford Barnett
saxtrolls.net? Are you proud of being a part of that group, or do you want
to hide the truth from your customers? You're either commiepinko or you're
not. Which is it? Are you part of the saxtrolls.net gang?
Saxtroll
to remain incognito.
The reason for this is simple. Anyone who dares to issue complaints
publically and openly about certain individuals on the SOTW "turf" can
expect to be stalked and harassed.
Just like what is happening here. I guess the "turf" is being extended.
(bignews6.bellsouth.net...) Ha ha ha, you should have tested better.
-Saxtroll (Tobin Harris, I have my own turf now)
"Winford Barnett" <winford...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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MTN
as a poster at saxtrolls, a banned person at the world's largest
saxophone forum, and as the owner of more than two score saxophones, I
would beg to differ with this assessment.
I am not a child. I am not an idiot. I am not pathetic. I am not
without information about saxophones.
Having never inhabited a first class cesspool, I cannot comment on
that observation. Bitching and vulgarity is not my chosen means of
communication.
If one would like to ask a question about my saxophone collection,
including Selmer, Conn, Buescher, King, Martin, Buffet, Keilwerth,
Kohlert, LeBlanc, Yamaha, and more - one need only ask at saxtrolls in
the category "The Instrument."
I am not trying to sell anything or buy anything.
I own SATBCmel; a dozen Kohlerts, nearly a dozen pro Yamahas, a half
dozen Selmer Paris, and many more - none Chinese or Taiwanese - I
suspect I could comprehend and politely answer any simple basic
requests for information.
How's the intonation on your Super 20? Straight or curved soprano?
Kohlert 55 vs 57 vs 58 vs The Kohlert? Differences between Yamaha
32/52/61/62/855/875/Allegro? Mark VI vs Mark VII vs. Serie II? JK vs.
Kohlert? New King vs. JK? pre-Chu vs. Chu vs 6M vs Nogales?
Still think I am an idiot?
I wonder if this poster knows every one of the eighty-some members of
that forum, to offer such an unenlightened criticism.
P. Tung
literal sense, impersonating one of "The Ass Gang," or one of asses
themselves. The fact that the saxtrolls.net address is listed, though, makes
me feel more strongly that it is actually a troll in the literal sense (i.e.
as opposed to someone merely branded a "troll" because her/his view was
unacceptable to the brander), or a kind of bizarre new twist in "the story"
whose outcome I am no more interested to discover than anybody else.
If people are concerned to know the backstory to this - I can't imagine why
any one would be, I suppose it is possible - please feel welcome to write
privately by removing the "nobspaam" from my address.
If I have time to answer, inasmuch as it is possible to do so without taking
frivolous and pointless legal risks, and time permitting, I will.
"Winford Barnett" <winford...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Grumps
a product being freely marketed on the forum by a SOTW columnist.
Winford Barnett
shed some light on the subject.
P. Tung
produces headers in the "properties" box, perhaps, before continuing
further, if indeed you are writing from a webbased client.
Your headers, in your second message include:
Message-ID: <6r%Kb.1904$pk6...@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
If you search the headers of the posts you have sent under your real name, I
think you will find that the server identified is the same as the one on the
posts for which you (if you are whom I take you to be) choose to take
credit.
Perhaps it is time for you to back off, leave this alone, and move on. You
are inspiring others to attack you by attacking me. Not because they are
"on my side," but because they despise you, and the character of your
actions, because they are on their own "side," and that of others whom you
would treat as you've treated them, given the chance. At this point, people
recognize your pathology with such clarity that your attacks on any one
person are recognized as a personal affront by a good number of people upon
whom you've visited that same pathology in the past. If you attack one -
any one, I suspect - you will inspire the wrath of the others. I am trying
to sound pop-psych, and I am not trying to give you any kind of threat, or
warning, here. I am telling you *how it is,* because I don't think you can
see your situation for what it is (again, assuming you are whom I take you
to be), and I actually believe that all parties are better off if a "cease
fire" can happen. Yourself no less than any others. Certainly myself no
less as well.
Seriously: for my part, I don't care, I did my tour of duty. Leave it
alone, and it is left alone. I have my satisfaction already. The truth is
out of the bag, and all the anonymous complaints about others' apparent
anonymity only expose you for what you are, because you seem to have a bad
habit of leaving clues when you are doing your nasty little deeds.
I'll say it again: leave it alone, and it is left alone.
Message-ID: <6r%Kb.1904$pk6...@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
"Winford Barnett" <winford...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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P. Tung
"I am trying
to sound pop-psych"
There is a "not" missing, in there, perhaps an appopriate slip.
Apologies.
"P. Tung" <pt...@nobspaam.justsaxes.com> wrote in message
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MTN
> shed some light on the subject.
Winfred Barnett?
Double check your IP.
Hmmm.
Care to shed some light, "Winfred Barnett?"
JacqSax
There can be no light shed by those who prevented critical discourse
from occurring at SOTW, so I doubt Harri is credible in this regard.
I suppose everyone is tired of hearing the BS of dealers who routinely
for years have used health and family issues to excuse not getting
back to clients and not repairing horns correctly or even returning
them to customers who requested them back. When people tried to point
this out on SOTW they were banned, labeled trouble makers and "trolls"
and the real truth is that the Trolls tried to get the word out so
other sax players wouldn't be ripped off.
The only thing the dealers can do is call the trolls names, accuse
them of things they didn't do, have their buddies post on their behalf
rather than take responsiblity for their actions themselves then whine
and complain after people health, children, and lives have been
threatened that the trolls didn't use their real names when they
posted. It's time for the BS to stop. Go to Saxtrolls and learn the
truth. That's where there is real light. Don't take my word for it,
go over there, read and make up your own mind if you would trust your
precious horn to these people. Engage your brain.
Grumps
forum. The pattern is very Manx like. A question is asked out of the
blue and then there's a quick follow up with a product or service
recommendation by number one or one of the usual suspects selling or
pushing something. As transparent as a clear mouthpiece patch.
Oh, and by the way.... the "grandma" post was supposed to go in here.
Still very new to this one.