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Dan Iwerks

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Jan 18, 2001, 10:18:01 AM1/18/01
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I dreamed I met Geddy last night. I'm pretty sure that other amr people
were there in the dream in some way. It was some kind of a lunch with
Geddy.

Geddy, apparently, is about 5'2" tall. Surprisingly enough, he is also a
woman. At least according to my subconscious. I had a long conversation
with him/her about the history of the band. Was definitely Geddy in the
dream. Was definitely a short woman.

At one point s/he gave my cat back to me, the one I gave to a friend because
it didn't get along with the other kitties. Anyone with a Freudian
background want to touch this one for me?
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Daniel McConnell

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Jan 18, 2001, 10:19:58 AM1/18/01
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Dan Iwerks wrote:

> I dreamed I met Geddy last night. I'm pretty sure that other amr people
> were there in the dream in some way. It was some kind of a lunch with
> Geddy.
>
> Geddy, apparently, is about 5'2" tall. Surprisingly enough, he is also a
> woman. At least according to my subconscious. I had a long conversation
> with him/her about the history of the band. Was definitely Geddy in the
> dream. Was definitely a short woman.
>

You're in love with Geddy.

rflagg

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Jan 18, 2001, 10:40:36 AM1/18/01
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"Dan Iwerks" wrote

> I dreamed I met Geddy last night. I'm pretty sure that other amr people
> were there in the dream in some way. It was some kind of a lunch with
> Geddy.
>
> Geddy, apparently, is about 5'2" tall. Surprisingly enough, he is also a
> woman. At least according to my subconscious. I had a long conversation
> with him/her about the history of the band. Was definitely Geddy in the
> dream. Was definitely a short woman.
>
> At one point s/he gave my cat back to me, the one I gave to a friend
because
> it didn't get along with the other kitties. Anyone with a Freudian
> background want to touch this one for me?

From the subject line, I got the mental image of Ged in Barbara Eden's
outfit from "I Dream of Jeannie". He looked pretty good except for the
unsightly wooden leg showing through the chiffon pants.

My interpretation of your dream:

You want Ged to give you a little pussy.
--
Flagg

Better to reign in hell, than to serve in heaven.
-- John Milton "Paradise Lost"


Dirk

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Jan 18, 2001, 11:04:44 AM1/18/01
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I met Geddy at a radio interview in NJ on 11/14/00, spent about an hour and
a hald with him and my best estimate to his height is about 5'9". Check
below link, I'm 6'0" tall, judge for yourself on the height.

http://www.monmouth.com/~test4echo/Geddy.html

Max C. Webster III

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Jan 18, 2001, 11:20:03 AM1/18/01
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"Dirk" <dir...@monmouth.com> writes:

Cool picks.

I notice his autograph on the bass is *almost* legible. I didn't have such
luck when he autographed a tour program for me in 1982.

http://hometown.aol.com/maxx2112/geddy_lee.html


- Max -
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Max said to them, "Come and have breakfast."
None of them ventured to question him, "Who
are you?" knowing that it was Max. -- Max 21:12

Dan Iwerks

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Jan 18, 2001, 11:27:32 AM1/18/01
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Dirk wrote in message <94746m$eou$1...@news.monmouth.com>...


Thanks for the factual accuracy and all, but I really am quite aware that
Geddy is indeed not a 5'2" tall woman, pictoral proof or no.

gttim

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Jan 18, 2001, 12:47:58 PM1/18/01
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rflagg wrote:

>
> My interpretation of your dream:
>
> You want Ged to give you a little pussy.

I saw that one a mile away. It could have been worse. At least he
didn't give you a hotdog or a big 10 inch record.

Tim

--
Now that we know George W. Bush's dog is named Spot and his right-hand
man is named Dick, isn't it obvious what was the most influential book
in his life?


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libe...@my-deja.com

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Jan 18, 2001, 5:44:23 PM1/18/01
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I'll second that, I met him at numerous, well really only 2 places, but
standing, or I'm sorry, sitting right next to him at the bar in the
Pfister Hotel watching him buy a round of drinks for his band & Mr.
Big, I can also certify he's that tall. He don't look like no woman
though, smart-asses.

Blakwydoh

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Jan 18, 2001, 7:43:48 PM1/18/01
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Where was I in this dream?
Pointin and lauging at you and Lady Geddy and your cat?
Or slamming Liber8tor's face into a plate of something that resembled horse
shit for calling everyone Stephen?


TapeHead4

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Jan 18, 2001, 10:17:33 PM1/18/01
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Iwerks wrote...

>Geddy, apparently, is about 5'2" tall. Surprisingly enough, he is also a
>woman. At least according to my subconscious. I had a long conversation
>with him/her about the history of the band. Was definitely Geddy in the
>dream. Was definitely a short woman.

Illusions of people/role models not being what they seem?

>At one point s/he gave my cat back to me, the one I gave to a friend because
>it didn't get along with the other kitties.

A second chance in life?

>Anyone with a Freudian
>background want to touch this one for me?

I used to analyze dreams. That all ended, however, when Iwerks told his tale of
the short, female pussy-loving Geddy.

Paul
formerly TapeHead4
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Nyarlathotep

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Jan 18, 2001, 10:56:53 PM1/18/01
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In article <t6e29c...@news.supernews.com>,

"Dan Iwerks" <dan_i...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I dreamed I met Geddy last night. I'm pretty sure that other amr
people
> were there in the dream in some way. It was some kind of a lunch with
> Geddy.
>
> Geddy, apparently, is about 5'2" tall. Surprisingly enough, he is
also a
> woman. At least according to my subconscious. I had a long
conversation
> with him/her about the history of the band. Was definitely Geddy in
the
> dream. Was definitely a short woman.
>
> At one point s/he gave my cat back to me, the one I gave to a friend
because
> it didn't get along with the other kitties. Anyone with a Freudian
> background want to touch this one for me?

Since you ask, I know precisely where Freud would go with that
dream.

The cat represents "non-male" for you. Why? Because cat phalluses
are so tiny as to be nonexistent.

Your *giving away* of the cat represents your attempt to *repress*
your own feelings of being non-male -- of being, in other words,
homosexual.

Your perception of Geddy as *female* is your mind's way of
justifying your sexual attraction to him.

Geddy's returning of the cat to you means, "Keep your cat; *accept
your homosexuality*."

Nyarlathotep

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Jan 18, 2001, 11:00:30 PM1/18/01
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In article <94746m$eou$1...@news.monmouth.com>,

Thanks for the link! I had always assumed that Geddy was 5'6" or
so. He does seem to be taller than that, to judge from your pics.

Mike Smith

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Jan 19, 2001, 1:43:39 AM1/19/01
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"Dirk" <dir...@monmouth.com> wrote in message
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From the website:

"Extra Special Thanks to Eddie Lee Roth..."

Boy, he must take a lot of crap about that name, huh? ;)

--
Mike Smith

One man's theology is another man's belly laugh. --R. A. Heinlein


Dan Iwerks

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Jan 19, 2001, 9:06:27 AM1/19/01
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Nyarlathotep wrote in message <948du1$hik$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...


Somebody's been spending way too much time reading them old Diet Troll
posts.

My Freudian reading of your Freudian reading of my dream is that you want me
to accept homosexuality so you can poke me. Sorry, Nyarl. You're just not
my type.

Nyarlathotep

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Jan 19, 2001, 4:55:57 PM1/19/01
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In article <t6gif5p...@news.supernews.com>,
"Dan Iwerks" <dan_i...@yahoo.com> wrote:


> > Your *giving away* of the cat represents your attempt to
*repress*
> >your own feelings of being non-male -- of being, in other words,
> >homosexual.
> >
> > Your perception of Geddy as *female* is your mind's way of
> >justifying your sexual attraction to him.
> >
> > Geddy's returning of the cat to you means, "Keep your cat;
*accept
> >your homosexuality*."
>
> Somebody's been spending way too much time reading them old Diet Troll
> posts.
>
> My Freudian reading of your Freudian reading of my dream is that you
want me
> to accept homosexuality so you can poke me. Sorry, Nyarl. You're
just not
> my type.

No, I'm not trying to imply that you're gay. But that's precisely
where Freud would go with that dream. Trust me, I've studied Freud and
I'm onto his tricks. Let me give you an example.

Around 1910, Freud began his psychoanalysis of (fellow
psychoanalyst) Horace Frink. Frink was very happily married; his reason
for entering psychoanalysis w/ Freud was to learn some new techniques
from the master. Frink happened to have a patient of his own, Angelika
Bijur, whose husband was massively wealthy.

Freud convinced Frink, in the course of their "treatment," that
Frink's homosexual side (Freud had plagiarized, from his former intimate
friend Wilhelm Fleiss, the idea of universal bisexuality) was on the
brink of becoming dominant. Frink, Freud insisted, would have to
divorce his wife and marry Bijur (and thus destroy Bijur's own happy
marriage in the process [Bijur's infuriated husband was about to
retaliate and publicly expose Freud as a "quack"; this plan was
curtailed when he died of a heart attack]).

Frink carried out Freud's instruction (his former wife, abandoned,
would soon die). Yet Frink just wasn't very happy with Bijur.

Freud explained to Frink that his unhappiness with Bijur was
due, once again, to Frink's homosexuality.

Freud *then* explained to Frink that Frink's homosexual impulses
were directed at -- you guessed it! -- *Freud himself*.

Freud went on to suggest to Frink that the real reason Frink
married Bijur was so that Frink could, as a symbol of his love for
Freud, make a huge donation of Bijur's money to Freud. "You have
homosexual fantasies of making me a very rich man," Freud wrote to
Frink, "Let us see if we can make this fantasy of yours a reality."

To make a long story short, all parties involved in this episode
(save Freud himself) were utterly destroyed. Incidentally, when Frink
was found dead, a letter written by his former wife was found at his
bedside. In it, she insisted that she believed Freud's influence was
pernicious; and that *all she wanted* was to make Frink happy.

If all this sounds a bit outrageous, a bit hard to believe, see the
chapter, "The Marriage Counselor," in _Unauthorized Freud_, edited by
Frederick Crews.

Freud routinely "instructed" his patients as to what their true
sexual impulses were -- and he had no compunctions about using such
"instructions" for his own gain.

Freud is the most devious quack in modern history.

libe...@my-deja.com

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Jan 19, 2001, 5:17:13 PM1/19/01
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I have never, ABSOLUTELY NEVER called anyone Stephen. You might be
thinking of Steven, though. That I am guilty of, right Steven?

> shit for calling everyone Stephen?
>
>

Spiro Vera

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Jan 20, 2001, 7:27:59 PM1/20/01
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:55:57 GMT, Nyarlathotep
<nyarla...@my-deja.com> dice que:

(snip)

That was very intersting stuff. I have studied a lot of Freud (I
majored in anthro and part of the program was "psychological anthro,")
but I had never heard this story before. Although a couple of his
theories ring true for me, for the most part I agree with you that he
was a quack and a sexist and a coke fiend, etc.............I think he
"projected" a lot of his own shit onto his patients.

A good book you may want to read is Gloria Steinem's If Freud Were A
Woman. (Or is that When Freud Was a Woman?--shit I can't remember the
exact title!) Anyway, she takes his theories, and turns them on their
heads. It kind of brings to light how ridiculous some of them really
are.

Spiro

Dan Iwerks

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Jan 22, 2001, 8:51:10 AM1/22/01
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Nyarlathotep wrote in message <94ad5a$7jk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>In article <t6gif5p...@news.supernews.com>,
> "Dan Iwerks" <dan_i...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> > Your *giving away* of the cat represents your attempt to
>*repress*
>> >your own feelings of being non-male -- of being, in other words,
>> >homosexual.
>> >
>> > Your perception of Geddy as *female* is your mind's way of
>> >justifying your sexual attraction to him.
>> >
>> > Geddy's returning of the cat to you means, "Keep your cat;
>*accept
>> >your homosexuality*."
>>
>> Somebody's been spending way too much time reading them old Diet Troll
>> posts.
>>
>> My Freudian reading of your Freudian reading of my dream is that you
>want me
>> to accept homosexuality so you can poke me. Sorry, Nyarl. You're
>just not
>> my type.
>
> No, I'm not trying to imply that you're gay. But that's precisely
>where Freud would go with that dream. Trust me, I've studied Freud and
>I'm onto his tricks. Let me give you an example.


No, no, I agree that Freud is a looney quack and all, but that doesn't
change the fact that you want me.

Nyarlathotep

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Jan 23, 2001, 4:08:25 PM1/23/01
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In article <t6oembr...@news.supernews.com>,
"Dan Iwerks" <dan_i...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> No, no, I agree that Freud is a looney quack and all, but that doesn't
> change the fact that you want me.

Hmm, as Spiro Vera points out, Freud constantly indulged in
"projection"; he would impose his *own* feelings, thoughts, etc., onto
his unlucky patients.

Nyarlathotep

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Jan 23, 2001, 4:05:21 PM1/23/01
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In article <3a6a2a87....@news.earthlink.net>,

Spir...@iwon.com wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:55:57 GMT, Nyarlathotep
> <nyarla...@my-deja.com> dice que:
>
> (snip)
>
> That was very intersting stuff. I have studied a lot of Freud (I
> majored in anthro and part of the program was "psychological anthro,")
> but I had never heard this story before. Although a couple of his
> theories ring true for me, for the most part I agree with you that he
> was a quack and a sexist and a coke fiend, etc.............I think he
> "projected" a lot of his own shit onto his patients.

Absolutely. In fact, many of Freud's "patients" are Freud
*himself*, indulging in covert autobiography. E.g., the "patient" in
"Screen Memories" who has fantasies of violently deflowering a virgin --
Siegfried Bernfeld demonstrated in the 50s that that was Freud himself.
Or the "travelling companion" Freud meets in chapter 2 of The
Psychopathology of Everyday Life, who misquotes Virgil because he is
afraid that he has impregnated his lover -- that was Freud himself, who,
at the time he composed the piece, was afraid that he had knocked up his
sister-in-law, Minna Bernays.

Dan Iwerks

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Jan 23, 2001, 5:04:07 PM1/23/01
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Nyarlathotep wrote in message <94krrv$hrk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...


OK, you caught me projecting. I do actually want myself. I asdjeiv __nf
dkdk

Sorry. Seem to have a lot of palm hair stuck in my keyboard. Screwing up
the typing.

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