Voices in Camera Eye
Jeff Haumesser
about half way through the song? It's during an intermediate instrumental.
Was this a mistake or intentional?
Egg
the song Camer Eye from Moving Pictures
about half way through the song? It's during an intermediate instrumental.
Was this a mistake or intentional?>>
I hear the voices, man!
I don't think that Rush has ever come out and said anything on this topic, but
I might be wrong. Knowing Rush and the attention to detail they put into their
music, I would bet they are intentional.
Ellen
"Religion is all bunk" -- Thomas Edison
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Sean Jones
> talking in
> the song Camer Eye from Moving Pictures
> about half way through the song? It's during an intermediate
> instrumental.
> Was this a mistake or intentional?>>
>
> I hear the voices, man!
>
> I don't think that Rush has ever come out and said anything on this
> topic, but
> I might be wrong. Knowing Rush and the attention to detail they put into
> their
> music, I would bet they are intentional.
> Ellen
>
They are intentional and they have spoken about them. There are various
phrases that have to do with the city Ged sings about in the following
verse. Before the 2nd verse, for example, they have two British sounding
men saying "Hello" and "Mornin' guv'". Before the first verse, all I
remember is a sound byte from the first Superman movie, where a cabbie
honks at Clark Kent and says, I think, "Watch it!"
Sean J.
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Doug." But others say I'm wrong. Who knows.
Sean Jones wrote in message <38ff5cfe$0$63...@news.execpc.com>...
Max C. Webster III
Since it was several years before ASOF was released, no one had any idea WTF he
was referring to.
I'm sure that in the FAQ somewhere.
- Max -
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Prog Fan 2112
>phrases that have to do with the city Ged sings about in the following
>verse. Before the 2nd verse, for example, they have two British sounding
>men saying "Hello" and "Mornin' guv'". Before the first verse, all I
>remember is a sound byte from the first Superman movie, where a cabbie
>honks at Clark Kent and says, I think, "Watch it!"
Although there may be conclusive proof that someone says Hello, I
still think it sounds more like a burp.
Mike Smith
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>
> Although there may be conclusive proof that someone says Hello, I
> still think it sounds more like a burp.
Probably Alex, then.
--
Mike Smith
There are perhaps 5% of the population that simply *can't* think.
There are another 5% who *can*, and *do*.
The remaining 90% *can* think, but *don't*.
-- R. A. Heinlein
Jonathan Mock
>
>
> Does anyone else hear talking in the song Camer Eye from Moving Pictures
> about half way through the song? It's during an intermediate instrumental.
> Was this a mistake or intentional?
That's weird because I was listening to that track before logging on
tonight and was going to ask the same question!
From what I can tell it sounds like someone is saying "Hello" and then "Do
you wan't a cup?" - I always assumed it was someone in the studio making
the tea or something and it found it's may onto the master tape and was
left there to see if we're all paying attention.
Now, don't get me started on that voice at the end of Tai Chan...
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Jonathan Mock
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Ignorance and prejudice, and fear, walk hand in hand...²
Daniel McConnell
'ello!
morning guv
Conspiracy Paul
>That was Neil's boyfriend coming into the studio. Neil tells him to smell
>the glove.
Diet Troll would be proud.
Paul
TapeHead4
"I wish this guys face would quit looking at me." - Ezoob
Dark
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> It's Geddy, and he's asking, "Just WTFl is Alex saying in the ASOF video?"
>
> Since it was several years before ASOF was released, no one had any idea
WTF he
> was referring to.
Actually, it was all part of their overall plan to 'screw the fans' (tm).
You see, they had actually made the entire video shortly before that song
was released, and just held it in their archives, knowing that they could
use this 'pre-packaged' video to save them the bother of actually recording
it live later on. It's quite an evil conspiracy, one that until this day had
been hidden from the light.
- Dark
--
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the
experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination
to do so." Douglas Adams
Joe
In the past I have gotten a lot of flack about this but the faces in the
clouds are obvious. For those that take me seriously, I believe at that
time(about 1983) the band was experimentng with stimulants. Yes, I am an
expert in the illicit drug field (MA in Rehab. Counseling with 10 years
working experience in addiction, especially dopaminergenic responses in
rats/humans i.e. D1, D2, D3, D4, D5, and the new D6.)
The clouds show a side "cut-away" profile of a person with "something"
going down the throat. Blood is apparent in the back molars and sinus area.
An indication of the acidic decay of most stimulants that are snorted. The
eye in the clouds is dialated with a white substance going up one nostril
and blood coming out of the other. Look at the lyrics to the "Enemy within."
A reaction to overuse of stimulant perhaps? You be the judge. It is no
accident that there are subliminal art covers to all of the RUSH albums. If
you have the albums (not the cd because it's too small) of anything after
"Fly by Night," you will find many things that were obviously put in the
picture purposely. Any clock that is shown shows 9:12 pm (21:12) in military
time.
This is not a "slam" against the band. They are my favorite group
bar-none.
Just a thought,,,, and no, I do not take drugs.
Joe
Jonathan Mock
> Max C. Webster III <maxx...@aol.com.nospam> wrote in message
> news:20000420174324...@ng-ch1.aol.com...
> > It's Geddy, and he's asking, "Just WTFl is Alex saying in the ASOF video?"
> >
> > Since it was several years before ASOF was released, no one had any idea
> WTF he
> > was referring to.
>
> Actually, it was all part of their overall plan to 'screw the fans' (tm).
> You see, they had actually made the entire video shortly before that song
> was released, and just held it in their archives, knowing that they could
> use this 'pre-packaged' video to save them the bother of actually recording
> it live later on. It's quite an evil conspiracy, one that until this day had
> been hidden from the light.
>
> - Dark
Plus we're talking about a band here that does trilogys in four parts and
works backwards...
"Anything can happen"
:-)
DavidS1037
<< Have you ever noticed the clouds on the ALBUM cover of P/G(not the cd?) >>
Joe:
You're right about one thing. There are often subtle (and not so subtle) images
in their art work, but there is no direct drug reference in P/G. I think you
are seeing that on your own, like the old ink blot tests. I know Hugh, the
artist, personally and there isn't as much "meaning" behind most of the graphic
elements as people sometimes think. Hugh takes advantage of the obvious ones,
like the time reference you mentioned, and on some of the composites (like the
inside of HYF) there are many things (some of which are secrets and have never
been identified by anyone I know of), but in general there's no big secret or
mystery to most of the artwork. I've talked to Hugh specifically about P/G
before and I can tell you that what you say is not the case, or at least wasn't
intentional.
Also of interest, Hugh has kindly given me (in exchange for some work I did for
him) a 36" x 36" high quality print of the P/G painting. You seem to be aware
of the difference in colors and resolution between the LP and CD. I wish you
could see this print. It is astounding how much more vivid it is than the LP.
Hugh tells me the original, which Neil has, is even that much more vivid.
Thanks
David
The Professor
>of the difference in colors and resolution between the LP and CD.
The remastered CD of GUP returns the colors to their original tones. It's much
better.
The Professor (not much of a cover art lover)
Daniel McConnell
The cool thing about art is that its abstract. You see, the artist puts
an image on a canvas - an image, a symbol, a representation. As such, the
symbol has a referent - something to which it refers, something in the
artists mind that has a connection to the symbol, whether or not its clear
to a 3rd party.
The thing about alot of abstract art (which the cover of p/g certainly
is) is that the mapping from symbol to referent is nonlinear, its a
one-to-many mapping. That is, the symbols can be interpreted in so many
ways by so many different observers, that any meaning found in the art is
a meaning that exists only in the connection between that particular
observer and the art. The particular meaning found can be informative
about the observer. The artwork is passive, in a sense, in this respect,
and the observer extracts/creates meaning as it seems to said observer.
When Rush uses the number 3 or the time 9:12, that certainly isn't
abstract, so the referent is pretty clear. Other times, interpretation is
in the eye of the beholder.
Final disclaimer - I have no negative opinions on drug use whatsoever, and
make no claim that Rush has or has not used any particular drug (though
I'm at least quite sure they've smoked marijuana, bsaed on A Passage to
Bangkok, the lyrics of which are quite un-abstract). My personal feeling
is that if you approach any abstract piece with a bias towards looking for
the expression/representation of a particular subject matter, then you can
find it.
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Joe wrote:
> Have you ever noticed the clouds on the ALBUM cover of P/G(not the cd?)