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Windego

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Apr 13, 2006, 10:31:08 AM4/13/06
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Subject: A German Thought -Subject : Fw: WRITTEN IN A GERMAN
NEWSPAPER - Neville Chamberlain all over agian.
Some of you, for whatever reason, will not read this and/or will not
agree with it. But, I'm sorry to say some of you will live to see it
come to past. -- This is powerful! Hope everyone reads this all
the way to the end!
For those that are too young to understand this, Neville Chaimberlain
who was the Prime Minister of England that was kicked out in disgrace,
gave appeasement to Adolf Hitler before WW2 started because he firmly
believed that enticing HItler to not invade Europe would have stopped
him, even after he invaded Poland!
If any of you still feel that this war on terror is a mistake, here is
an opinion from an unexpected source. This is not a problem that is
going to be easy to solve. It is the struggle to maintain our Western
way of life and the very culture that has made it possible. Lose this
one, and our grandchildren may be speaking Arabic, those of them that
survive the "conversion".
Look at what has been happening in Europe the last couple of weeks.
For all practical purposes, they won Spain without any effort on their
part other than a couple of bombs in public places. Now they are
burning Paris and hitting on Holland and Belgium.
Better get serious, very, very serious!
It's fascinating that this should come out of Europe Mathias
Dapfner, Chief Executive of the huge German publisher Axel Springer
AG, has written a blistering attack in DIE WELT, Germany's largest
daily paper, against the timid reaction of Europe in the face of the
Islamic threat. This is a must-read by all Americans. History will
certify its correctness.
EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE
(Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer, AG)
A few days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe - your
family name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of
your head because it's so terribly true.
Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives, as
England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too
long before they noticed that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to
toothless agreements.
Appeasement legitimized and stabilized Communism in the Soviet
Union, then East Germany, then all the rest of Eastern Europe, where
for decades inhuman suppressive, murderous governments were glorified
as the ideologically correct alternative to all other possibilities.
Appeasement crippled Europe when genocide ran rampant in Kosovo, and
even though we had absolute proof of ongoing mass-murder, we Europeans
debated and debated and debated, and were still debating when finally
the Americans had to come from halfway around the world, into Europe
yet again, and do our work for us.
Rather than protecting democracy in the Middle East, European
Appeasement camouflaged behind the fuzzy word "equidistance," now
countenances suicide bombings in Israel by fundamentalist
Palestinians.
Appeasement generates a mentality that allows Europe to ignore
nearly 500,000 victims of Saddam's torture and murder machinery and,
motivated by the self-righteousness of the peace movement, has the
gall to issue bad grades to George Bush ... Even as it is uncovered
that the loudest critics of the American action in Iraq made illicit
billions, no, TENS of billions, in the corrupt U.N Oil-for-Food
program.
And now we are faced with a particularly grotesque form of
appeasement.
How is Germany reacting to the escalating violence by Islamic
Fundamentalists in Holland and elsewhere? By suggesting that we
really should have a "Muslim Holiday" in Germany?
I wish I were joking, but I am not. A substantial fraction of our
(German) Government, and if the polls are to be believed, the German
people, actually believe that creating an Official State "Muslim
Holiday" will somehow spare us from the wrath of the fanatical
Islamists.
One cannot help but recall Britain's Neville Chamberlain waving the
laughable treaty signed by Adolph Hitler and declaring European "Peace
in our time".
What else has to happen before the European public and its political
leadership get it? There is a sort of crusade underway, an
especially perfidious crusade consisting of systematic attacks by
fanatic Muslims, focused on civilians, directed against our free, open
Western societies, and intent upon Western Civilization's utter
destruction.
It is a conflict that will most likely last longer than any of the
great military conflicts of the last century - a conflict conducted by
an enemy that cannot be tamed by "tolerance" and "accommodation" but
is actually spurred on by such gestures, which have proven to be, and
will always be taken by the Islamists for signs of weakness. Only
two recent American Presidents had the courage needed for
Anti-appeasement: Reagan and Bush.
His American critics may quibble over the details, but we Europeans
know the truth. We saw it first hand: Ronald Reagan ended the Cold
War, freeing half of the German people from nearly 50 years of terror
and virtual slavery. And Bush, supported only by the Social
Democrat Blair, acting on moral conviction, recognized the danger in
the Islamic War against Democracy. His place in history will have to
be evaluated after a number of years have passed.
In the meantime, Europe sits back with charismatic self-confidence
in the multicultural corner, instead of defending liberal society's
values and being an attractive center of power on the same playing
field as the true great powers, America and China.
On the contrary - we Europeans present ourselves, in contrast to
those "arrogant Americans", as the World Champions of "tolerance",
which even (Germany's Interior Minister) Otto Schily justifiably
criticizes.
Why? Because we're so moral? I fear it's more because we're so
materialistic, so devoid of a moral compass.
For his policies, Bush risks the fall of the dollar, huge amounts of
additional national debt, and a massive and persistent burden on the
American economy - because unlike almost all of Europe, Bush realizes
what is at stake - literally everything.
While we criticize the "capitalistic robber barons" of America
because they seem too sure of their priorities, we timidly defend our
Social Welfare systems. Stay out of it! It could get expensive!
We'd rather discuss reducing our 35-hour workweek or our dental
coverage, or our 4 weeks of paid vacation .. Or listen to TV pastors
preach about the need to "reach out to terrorists. To understand and
forgive".
These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking
hands, frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices
a robber breaking into a neighbor's house.
Appeasement?
Europe, thy name is Cowardice.
---God Bless America---

Pelagius

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May 31, 2006, 10:10:51 AM5/31/06
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This is one of the most moronic posts that I've come across. I'm going
to assume that it was written by a troll for the sole purpose of
incitement; though this may be giving the original poster entirely too
much credit.

Pelagius

Windego

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Jun 4, 2006, 8:00:08 AM6/4/06
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Amusing that you aspire to an old fart which all of his ideas, were
chiefly rooted in the old pagan philosophy especially in the once
popular system of the stoics. You may not change the history refered
to in the post nor the present. The author of the post is a noted
individual, unlike yourself which borrows anothers name lacking any
personal coviction to lend to your own identity. Incitement, no boy,
deep thought , in which you are too shallow to participate. Pelagius,
thats funny. You should borrow the name of a super hero next week.
You are unable to respond in a thoughtful fashion so you seek to
dismiss that which you dislike (truth) through childish antics.
Read more comic books.

Pelagius

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Jun 5, 2006, 10:27:30 AM6/5/06
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Your second post is no better than your first; except, of course, for
its inherent irony: you call me shallow and superficial, and yet you
derive numerous assumptions (most groundless and without meaning) based
on nothing more than my screen name. What is more shallow and
superficial than this?

As to your particular strain of "deep thought," whose very abstruse
nature I am apparently not able to penetrate due to my "shallow" nature
(perhaps you should attempt a bit of analytical psychology on me based
not only on a random screen name, but also on my text size and color, as
well.), if you consider ripping the content of a latest conspiracy
website, neglecting those elements of the Elders of Zion and the
Illuminati, that is hardly speculation of any deep import. I could
mention such well-known facts as these examples of terrorism which you
mentioned and implied on your post violate Islamic law and, as such,
don't constitute an "Islamic revolution" which will "kill and convert"
the next generation of America. I could also mention that a legitimate
Jihaad or struggle of self-defense can't take place without an Islamic
Caliphate, and that most of the calls to Jihaad that take place today
are not only invalid from an Islamic standpoint, they are made by
individuals whose vested interest it is to stir political strife and fan
emotional sentiment in their war-torn and unstable areas for their own
advantage. I could also mention how the current political struggle isn't
against East vs. West, given that most of the Muslim population
including those living in America, whether Muslims by birth or
conversion aren't taking part in any active resistence; but rather, the
struggle is between the imbecilic neoconservatives and those they wish
to kill, torture, and rape for their own political ideology. Anyone who
can keep a straight face while regurgitating such drivel as you have in
your original post, and maintain that we are being threatened from
within and without by a nonexistent enemy (tactics which the Nazis used
themselves to influence their civilian population) while this
administration attacks any and all nations which they desire for
perceived economic and strategic advantage under the banner of a
Christian "pax Americana" can't be taken seriously; and as such, any
discussion which could take place would quickly devolve into something
that is more on your level. Perhaps those comic books you mentioned
would be such a level, given your fascination with them.

Pelagius

Windego

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Jun 11, 2006, 8:16:48 PM6/11/06
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Hi Mo..
A Funny post. Islamic law in case you have not noticed, is sorely
lacking. Your rantings are that of a seond grade schoolboy, one which
lacks the gray matter to succeed in winning any battle of minds except
perhaps in the special olympics. You spew dribble without meaning and
think yourself a gret mind, I suppose your screen name allows your ego
some false sense of grandeur. You must be insecure.
The whole point of the first post was lost to you,or beyond your means
to comprehend, my bet is the latter,Perhaps if you study and don't
spend too much time with the boy bands you may mature.
I could endeavor to engage in some deep thought at an attempt to
discover that you are indeed a bed wetting lberal, but we know this.
My bet is you wont eat pork and face east a lot, right?
America has spoken and you cant stand it!! HA!

Pelagius (haha) wrote..I call him 'Mo'

Phoney McRingRing

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Jul 7, 2006, 4:19:43 AM7/7/06
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what does this have to do with rammstein? ...do you know of them? they're a
band...they make music...sometimes people like to just listen to their music
and not worry about anything else. its a strange idea, i know, but how bout
you lay off the crazy drugs and stop talking crap. if you want to do
something about the war on terror, go and do something instead of writting
stupid posts on unrelated newsgroups


Borax Man

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Nov 27, 2008, 5:25:25 PM11/27/08
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Hey, I'm one of those people! And sometimes that music is Rammstein too!

The troll has been well fed.

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