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Mrs Lumpless

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Oct 12, 2007, 10:33:34 AM10/12/07
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... my newsreader has decided to refuse to work, so until I can
bothered to fix it I have to make do with [sfx: hack, cough, splutter]
Google Groups. So here goes - hope it works.

Anyway, while out wombling the wibbly wobbly web the other day I found
this rather interesting blog post ... didn't realise until just now
that it's buy the same bloke who's been asking me about Whitby Gothic
Weekend on my own blog ...

Anyway, the article:

http://tinyurl.com/2mbr9a

And you know what? I think I have been living in a bubble because
this is the first time I've heard these theories that Rammstein must
be neo-nazis! Why is it that some people get a vague idea in their
head and then go all out clutching at straws trying to prove what
they've convinced themselves must be true? Really, it's beyond me.
It's as bad as saying, 'well I read in the newspaper so it must be
true'.

Anyway, I just thought if you didn't know about it already it's quite
a good read.

--
Lisa

za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk

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Oct 13, 2007, 9:03:02 AM10/13/07
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On 12 Oct, 15:33, Mrs Lumpless <lisa.cu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyway, while out wombling the wibbly wobbly web the other day I found
> this rather interesting blog post ... didn't realise until just now
> that it's buy the same bloke who's been asking me about Whitby Gothic
> Weekend on my own blog ...


You have a blog? Like, crazy, man, crazy...


>
> Anyway, the article:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2mbr9a
>
> And you know what? I think I have been living in a bubble because
> this is the first time I've heard these theories that Rammstein must
> be neo-nazis! Why is it that some people get a vague idea in their
> head and then go all out clutching at straws trying to prove what
> they've convinced themselves must be true? Really, it's beyond me.
> It's as bad as saying, 'well I read in the newspaper so it must be
> true'.
>
> Anyway, I just thought if you didn't know about it already it's quite
> a good read.
>

The Wikipedia article on Rammstein mentions some of this
"controversy" (in a somewhat sceptical way), including the ludicrous
idea that since Till Lindemann rolls his R's, he's trying to sound
like Hitler. May the Universe protect us from the professionally
sensitive... :-)

People just like to have their prejudices confirmed, and if the
evidence isn't there, why, they'll just pretend it is! There was
some stuff on the BBC website in the comments section on an article
about the recent tattoo expo in London, where nitwits got to fulminate
about the "low self-esteem" and "need to rebel" of those with body
art. One guy said that people with tattoos would not get jobs with
big companies. As I look at the half-sleeve of tattoos I have on one
arm, and the band I have on the other, I realise that my job with one
of the biggest blue-chip companies in the world must be a delusion...
ho hum.

Steve

JD

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Oct 13, 2007, 3:27:01 PM10/13/07
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Maybe you were living in a bubble? Since Rammstein started some people
have questioned their being neo-nazis. The local yokel that painted my
house saw one of my Rammstein CD cases and said he'd never heard of them
so I played him a little and he ask "are they singing in German?"
followed by "are you a nazi?" I didn't have any DVDs at the time or I
could have really freaked him out.


--
JD..

Mrs Lumpless

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Oct 14, 2007, 7:26:28 AM10/14/07
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On Oct 13, 8:27 pm, JD <J...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> Maybe you were living in a bubble? Since Rammstein started some people
> have questioned their being neo-nazis. The local yokel that painted my
> house saw one of my Rammstein CD cases and said he'd never heard of them
> so I played him a little and he ask "are they singing in German?"
> followed by "are you a nazi?" I didn't have any DVDs at the time or I
> could have really freaked him out.
>
> --
> JD..

LOL! That's a classic! Where do these people get their ideas?

--
Lisa

Mrs Lumpless

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Oct 14, 2007, 7:38:11 AM10/14/07
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On Oct 13, 2:03 pm, z...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk wrote:

> People just like to have their prejudices confirmed, and if the
> evidence isn't there, why, they'll just pretend it is! There was
> some stuff on the BBC website in the comments section on an article
> about the recent tattoo expo in London, where nitwits got to fulminate
> about the "low self-esteem" and "need to rebel" of those with body
> art. One guy said that people with tattoos would not get jobs with
> big companies. As I look at the half-sleeve of tattoos I have on one
> arm, and the band I have on the other, I realise that my job with one
> of the biggest blue-chip companies in the world must be a delusion...
> ho hum.

Hmmmm ... I've decided to get my very first tattoo for my 40th
birthday. Mr Lisa doesn't like the idea but he hasn't tried to put me
off. He'll come round to the idea ... he hated New Rock boots and
similar, but after having mine for a while he's decided he wants some
too.

I have a theory that those who kick up the biggest fuss are trying to
deny or hide their own fantasies. I believe exactly the same thing
about homophobes - someone who is completely comfortable about their
own sexuality would not feel threatened or become aggressive towards a
gay/lesbian person.

Just my twopenn'orth.

--
Lisa

JD

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Oct 14, 2007, 9:11:46 PM10/14/07
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Think about it. Small Texas town dude, the only German he's ever heard
is television clips of Adolph Hitler. German can be a very expressive
language especially to someone that's not used to it?

None the less, it is funny!

--
JD..

za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk

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Oct 15, 2007, 6:41:46 AM10/15/07
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On 14 Oct, 12:38, Mrs Lumpless <lisa.cu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2:03 pm, z...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
> > People just like to have their prejudices confirmed, and if the
> > evidence isn't there, why, they'll just pretend it is! There was
> > some stuff on the BBC website in the comments section on an article
> > about the recent tattoo expo in London, where nitwits got to fulminate
> > about the "low self-esteem" and "need to rebel" of those with body
> > art. One guy said that people with tattoos would not get jobs with
> > big companies. As I look at the half-sleeve of tattoos I have on one
> > arm, and the band I have on the other, I realise that my job with one
> > of the biggest blue-chip companies in the world must be a delusion...
> > ho hum.
>
> Hmmmm ... I've decided to get my very first tattoo for my 40th
> birthday. Mr Lisa doesn't like the idea but he hasn't tried to put me
> off.

I got my first when I was 18, which has since been reworked into the
design on my right arm. When people find out I have tattoos, they
frequently ask the same old questions, like "Does it hurt?" (that's
not what they usually mean - everyone knows having a needle stuck into
your skin 80-150 times a second will hurt - they mean "how *much* does
it hurt?"), and "Won't you regret it when you're 50? (I don't know,
I'm not 50, but I don't *think* I will...I haven't so far).

It's none of my business, of course, but I'd hope you're going to use
some sort of original design, rather than "flash" off the tattooists
wall. Any idea what you'll have done?

> He'll come round to the idea ... he hated New Rock boots and
> similar, but after having mine for a while he's decided he wants some
> too.

I had to look "New Rock" boots up - so *that's* what they're called -
I've seen 'em around, up Camden Market, etc. Is it hard to walk on
the big platform sole? Not my thing, I used to wear steel-toecap
DM's myself, but gave it up in my mid 20's, for regular Docs, then
gave up DM's altogether...

>
> I have a theory that those who kick up the biggest fuss are trying to
> deny or hide their own fantasies. I believe exactly the same thing
> about homophobes - someone who is completely comfortable about their
> own sexuality would not feel threatened or become aggressive towards a
> gay/lesbian person.
>

Yeah, I'd agree to a big extent. I don't think it's the whole story,
but much hate comes from fear, and fear of one's own desires is
certainly a very significant force, particularly when they conflict
with the attitudes of one's peer group and family.

Steve


Mrs Lumpless

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Oct 15, 2007, 8:57:23 AM10/15/07
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> On 14 Oct, 12:38, Mrs Lumpless <lisa.cu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Hmmmm ... I've decided to get my very first tattoo for my 40th
>> birthday. Mr Lisa doesn't like the idea but he hasn't tried to put me
>> off.
>
> I got my first when I was 18, which has since been reworked into the
> design on my right arm. When people find out I have tattoos, they
> frequently ask the same old questions, like "Does it hurt?" (that's
> not what they usually mean - everyone knows having a needle stuck into
> your skin 80-150 times a second will hurt - they mean "how *much* does
> it hurt?"), and "Won't you regret it when you're 50? (I don't know,
> I'm not 50, but I don't *think* I will...I haven't so far).

Well, the worry that I'd regret it later in life is what's prevented me from
getting one all these years, but I reckon by the time I reach 40 I'll be
mature and experienced enough to know what want and be able to make a
decision and stick with it. :-) And the pain? I've had some surgical
procedures inflicted on me that would make your hair curl. Besides I reckon
if it's that bad people wouldn't keep going to get more done. Unless they
like it, of course. ;-)

> It's none of my business, of course, but I'd hope you're going to use
> some sort of original design, rather than "flash" off the tattooists
> wall. Any idea what you'll have done?

Yeah, probably an "off the wall" Celtic knot armband. I've wanted on for
years. LOL I just want something narrow so I don't think there'll be much
scope for creativity.

>> He'll come round to the idea ... he hated New Rock boots and
>> similar, but after having mine for a while he's decided he wants some
>> too.
>
> I had to look "New Rock" boots up - so *that's* what they're called -
> I've seen 'em around, up Camden Market, etc. Is it hard to walk on
> the big platform sole? Not my thing, I used to wear steel-toecap
> DM's myself, but gave it up in my mid 20's, for regular Docs, then
> gave up DM's altogether...

Well, I don't have platforms, so I wouldn't know. At 5 feet tall I could
with them though! LOL These are the ones I have:

http://www.cloggs.co.uk/invt/2998

I used to wear DMs all the time, but I developed severe foot pain (plantar
faciitis in both feet due to undiagnosed and untreated overpronation) and
found I couldn't wear them for long any more. After getting nowhere with
the treatment options the NHS could offer me I went to see a podiatrist who
specialised in bio-mechanics and he analysed my gait etc and made me some
custom orthotic insoles. These combine perfectly with my 591 New Rocks and
I can walk miles and stand for ages at concerts now. I have to say they are
the most well-made and comfortable boots I have ever owned and would highly
recommend them.

So do you have favourite footwear or do you just wear standard boots and
shoes now? Just curious and all that.

>> I have a theory that those who kick up the biggest fuss are trying to
>> deny or hide their own fantasies. I believe exactly the same thing
>> about homophobes - someone who is completely comfortable about their
>> own sexuality would not feel threatened or become aggressive towards a
>> gay/lesbian person.
>>
>
> Yeah, I'd agree to a big extent. I don't think it's the whole story,
> but much hate comes from fear, and fear of one's own desires is
> certainly a very significant force, particularly when they conflict
> with the attitudes of one's peer group and family.

Yes, of course, peer pressure is a big influential force too. Hadn't
thought of that.

--
Lisa

Mrs Lumpless

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>
> Think about it. Small Texas town dude, the only German he's ever heard is
> television clips of Adolph Hitler. German can be a very expressive
> language especially to someone that's not used to it?
>
> None the less, it is funny!

Of course I forget that here in the UK even though we may feel we're in a
remote place we're never all that far from civilisation. The kinds of
yokels you talk about are an endangered species over here. We're just so
small a country we don't have the same concept of distance as you lot over
there <-----------. :-)

--
Lisa

za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk

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Oct 15, 2007, 3:10:03 PM10/15/07
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On 15 Oct, 13:57, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> > Won't you regret it when you're 50? (I don't know,
> > I'm not 50, but I don't *think* I will...I haven't so far).
>
> Well, the worry that I'd regret it later in life is what's prevented me from
> getting one all these years, but I reckon by the time I reach 40 I'll be
> mature and experienced enough to know what want and be able to make a
> decision and stick with it. :-) And the pain? I've had some surgical
> procedures inflicted on me that would make your hair curl.

Oo-er. I have very little hair (by choice - partly :-) ), so I
can't afford for it to curl. Was it foot related? I had a bit of an
unpleasant surgical thing myself last year...it's no fun, is it?

> Besides I reckon
> if it's that bad people wouldn't keep going to get more done. Unless they
> like it, of course. ;-)
>
> > It's none of my business, of course, but I'd hope you're going to use
> > some sort of original design, rather than "flash" off the tattooists
> > wall. Any idea what you'll have done?
>
> Yeah, probably an "off the wall" Celtic knot armband. I've wanted on for
> years. LOL I just want something narrow so I don't think there'll be much
> scope for creativity.

Fair do's. Actually, I'd make an exception in my "no flash" world-
view for Celtic/Nordic stuff - or any tribal stuff, really - as the
designs *have* to have a consistent style. It's just the "Tasmanian
Devil" and bulldog/panther crap I have a problem with... As it
happens, I have a Nordic knotwork skull at the base of my work on the
right arm, and it's often the most commented on, of the stuff on that
arm...

>
> >> He'll come round to the idea ... he hated New Rock boots and
> >> similar, but after having mine for a while he's decided he wants some
> >> too.
>
> > I had to look "New Rock" boots up - so *that's* what they're called -
> > I've seen 'em around, up Camden Market, etc. Is it hard to walk on
> > the big platform sole? Not my thing, I used to wear steel-toecap
> > DM's myself, but gave it up in my mid 20's, for regular Docs, then
> > gave up DM's altogether...
>
> Well, I don't have platforms, so I wouldn't know. At 5 feet tall I could
> with them though! LOL These are the ones I have:
>
> http://www.cloggs.co.uk/invt/2998
>
> I used to wear DMs all the time, but I developed severe foot pain (plantar
> faciitis in both feet due to undiagnosed and untreated overpronation)

Ouch. Wikipedia told me that's some bad stuff.

> and
> found I couldn't wear them for long any more. After getting nowhere with
> the treatment options the NHS could offer me I went to see a podiatrist who
> specialised in bio-mechanics and he analysed my gait etc and made me some
> custom orthotic insoles. These combine perfectly with my 591 New Rocks and
> I can walk miles and stand for ages at concerts now. I have to say they are
> the most well-made and comfortable boots I have ever owned and would highly
> recommend them.
>
> So do you have favourite footwear or do you just wear standard boots and
> shoes now? Just curious and all that.

Shoes, baseball boots, that kind of stuff. I'm, like, a total square
now. :-) Apart from the skinhead and the tattoos...

> >> I have a theory that those who kick up the biggest fuss are trying to
> >> deny or hide their own fantasies. I believe exactly the same thing
> >> about homophobes - someone who is completely comfortable about their
> >> own sexuality would not feel threatened or become aggressive towards a
> >> gay/lesbian person.
>
> > Yeah, I'd agree to a big extent. I don't think it's the whole story,
> > but much hate comes from fear, and fear of one's own desires is
> > certainly a very significant force, particularly when they conflict
> > with the attitudes of one's peer group and family.
>
> Yes, of course, peer pressure is a big influential force too. Hadn't
> thought of that.
>

You cannot think of everything. If you try, you will go mad, and be
of no use at all...

Steve

Mrs Lumpless

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> On 15 Oct, 13:57, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

<tattoos>

>> Well, the worry that I'd regret it later in life is what's prevented me
>> from
>> getting one all these years, but I reckon by the time I reach 40 I'll be
>> mature and experienced enough to know what want and be able to make a
>> decision and stick with it. :-) And the pain? I've had some surgical
>> procedures inflicted on me that would make your hair curl.
>
> Oo-er. I have very little hair (by choice - partly :-) ), so I
> can't afford for it to curl. Was it foot related? I had a bit of an
> unpleasant surgical thing myself last year...it's no fun, is it?

Much much worse than feet. Actually several bits of me. At different times.

<plantar faciitis>

> Ouch. Wikipedia told me that's some bad stuff.

I wouldn't inflict on my worst enemy. First thing in the morning it was
like walking on broken glass. And that was on a good day when I could walk.

>> So do you have favourite footwear or do you just wear standard boots and
>> shoes now? Just curious and all that.
>
> Shoes, baseball boots, that kind of stuff. I'm, like, a total square
> now. :-) Apart from the skinhead and the tattoos...

Nothing square about that. So long as you haven't started wearing a thick
woolly cardy with patch pockets and smoking a pipe.

<having a brain the size of a planet>

> You cannot think of everything. If you try, you will go mad, and be
> of no use at all...

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I discovered it's a good idea to
write things down.

--
Lisa, now listening to Apocalyptica's cover of Seeman ... and I have one
thing to say ... "Yeeaargh! That woman is terrifying!"

JD

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We're civilized here in west Texas. There are 200,000 people in the
region which is not nearly as many as a place like Dallas or Houston but
we're still city-folk. <g>

I can agree with the concept of distance since I can see forever when
I'm on the roof of my house. It's very, very flat out here.

If you showed up wearing those boots you sent the link to, my painter
would ask you "are you a Nazi?" I'd hold him down and you could kick the
shit out of him while you yell "I'm English."

Honestly, I did research Rammstein once I heard of them just to make
sure they weren't neo-Nazis. How would I know? They sing in German and I
don't understand German. I don't listen to Christian rock, I don't care
how good the music is. It just doesn't work for me. I got to agree with
what my bands are singing or at least know, like for Rammstein, they're
not for something I disagree with.

--
JD..

JD

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We're civilized here in west Texas. There are 200,000 people in the

Message has been deleted

za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk

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On 15 Oct, 21:00, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>

<snip>

> >> And the pain? I've had some surgical


> >> procedures inflicted on me that would make your hair curl.
>
> > Oo-er. I have very little hair (by choice - partly :-) ), so I
> > can't afford for it to curl. Was it foot related? I had a bit of an
> > unpleasant surgical thing myself last year...it's no fun, is it?
>
> Much much worse than feet. Actually several bits of me. At different times.

My sympathies. Maybe I'm a wimp, but I found the lithotripsy I had
last year traumatic enough - primarily because of the point of
entry :-) - so I can't imagine the badness of multiple surgeries.
Poor you.

>
> <plantar faciitis>
>
> > Ouch. Wikipedia told me that's some bad stuff.
>
> I wouldn't inflict on my worst enemy. First thing in the morning it was
> like walking on broken glass. And that was on a good day when I could walk.
>

Wow. Pretty awful. And you say the boots and inserts have helped?
Are they the only long-term solution?

> >> So do you have favourite footwear or do you just wear standard boots and
> >> shoes now? Just curious and all that.
>
> > Shoes, baseball boots, that kind of stuff. I'm, like, a total square
> > now. :-) Apart from the skinhead and the tattoos...
>
> Nothing square about that. So long as you haven't started wearing a thick
> woolly cardy with patch pockets and smoking a pipe.

Er...<stuffs wooly cardy under desk, puts out pipe>...no, no, not at
all.

I'm pretty well dressed, really, which is mainly down to my wife. She
works for the London College of Fashion, so she's kind of got a clue
about such things.

>
> <having a brain the size of a planet>
>
> > You cannot think of everything. If you try, you will go mad, and be
> > of no use at all...
>
> Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I discovered it's a good idea to
> write things down.
>

The above is actually a quote from a novella by Stephen King, and I
often try to bear it in mind on busy work days. I try to be
organised, but even with all the marvels of modern technology, I still
have trouble. I used to have a PDA. I kept forgetting to take it to
work with me, which reduced its effectiveness significantly.

Steve

za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk

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On 16 Oct, 00:12, JD <J...@example.invalid> wrote:

<snip>

>
> > Of course I forget that here in the UK even though we may feel we're in
> > a remote place we're never all that far from civilisation. The kinds of
> > yokels you talk about are an endangered species over here. We're just
> > so small a country we don't have the same concept of distance as you lot
> > over there <-----------. :-)
>
> We're civilized here in west Texas. There are 200,000 people in the
> region which is not nearly as many as a place like Dallas or Houston but
> we're still city-folk. <g>
>
> I can agree with the concept of distance since I can see forever when
> I'm on the roof of my house. It's very, very flat out here.

Yeah, in the UK, even though, as Mrs. L. says, we're physically a tiny
nation, we do have *some* open spaces still, but you're never more
than an hour's drive from some kind of significant settlement.

>
> If you showed up wearing those boots you sent the link to, my painter
> would ask you "are you a Nazi?" I'd hold him down and you could kick the
> shit out of him while you yell "I'm English."
>
> Honestly, I did research Rammstein once I heard of them just to make
> sure they weren't neo-Nazis. How would I know? They sing in German and I
> don't understand German. I don't listen to Christian rock, I don't care
> how good the music is. It just doesn't work for me.

Amen, Brother! :-) I would have said the words "Christian" and
"Rock" would have been impossible to have in the same sentence, but
apparently such bands exist.

Steve

Mrs Lumpless

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> On 15 Oct, 21:00, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

<surgery>

>> Much much worse than feet. Actually several bits of me. At different
>> times.
>
> My sympathies. Maybe I'm a wimp, but I found the lithotripsy I had
> last year traumatic enough - primarily because of the point of
> entry :-) - so I can't imagine the badness of multiple surgeries.
> Poor you.

Well, I had to look up lithotripsy and it sounds like no picnic. Eeek!

<foot pain>

>> I wouldn't inflict on my worst enemy. First thing in the morning it was
>> like walking on broken glass. And that was on a good day when I could
>> walk.
>
> Wow. Pretty awful. And you say the boots and inserts have helped?
> Are they the only long-term solution?

The best for me, I reckon. The only other long term solution is surgery
which actually severs part of the plantar facia but can often cause more
problems such as fallen arches and rotation of the outer part of the foot,
so the inserts in my opinion are far preferable as it keeps my feet in a
natural position and as a knock on effect improves my posture and gait, so
backache, headaches and such are a thing of the past.

<square fashion>

>> Nothing square about that. So long as you haven't started wearing a
>> thick
>> woolly cardy with patch pockets and smoking a pipe.
>
> Er...<stuffs wooly cardy under desk, puts out pipe>...no, no, not at
> all.
>
> I'm pretty well dressed, really, which is mainly down to my wife. She
> works for the London College of Fashion, so she's kind of got a clue
> about such things.

Excellent! I wish I could take free reign with my hubby but he's more fussy
than any woman I know!

>> > You cannot think of everything. If you try, you will go mad, and be
>> > of no use at all...

> The above is actually a quote from a novella by Stephen King, and I


> often try to bear it in mind on busy work days. I try to be
> organised, but even with all the marvels of modern technology, I still
> have trouble. I used to have a PDA. I kept forgetting to take it to
> work with me, which reduced its effectiveness significantly.

LOL I write things down then forget to look at my list, so even the old
fashioned ways are flawed!

--
Lisa
Where: Work
NP: Rammstein - Kokain

Mrs Lumpless

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> Mrs Lumpless wrote:
>> "JD" <J...@example.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> Think about it. Small Texas town dude, the only German he's ever heard
>>> is television clips of Adolph Hitler. German can be a very expressive
>>> language especially to someone that's not used to it?
>>>
>>> None the less, it is funny!
>>
>> Of course I forget that here in the UK even though we may feel we're in a
>> remote place we're never all that far from civilisation. The kinds of
>> yokels you talk about are an endangered species over here. We're just so
>> small a country we don't have the same concept of distance as you lot
>> over there <-----------. :-)
>>
>
> We're civilized here in west Texas. There are 200,000 people in the region
> which is not nearly as many as a place like Dallas or Houston but we're
> still city-folk. <g>

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that everyone in west Texas is a yokel!
More to make the point that you have much more remote places than us simply
due to the sheer size of the country you live in. As a Brit who hasn't even
travelled much in my own country I can't even comprehend the distances
involved. I have been to the USA a couple of times, but I slept during the
flights so it may as well have been a hours drive down the road for me. LOL

Incidentally, after reading up a bit about Rammstein on Wikipedia, I decided
to get an idea of the places it mentioned, such as the village Till
Lindemann grew up in, so I put them into Google Earth. There are some great
aerial views of Wendich-Rambow, Schwerin and Berlin!

> If you showed up wearing those boots you sent the link to, my painter
> would ask you "are you a Nazi?" I'd hold him down and you could kick the
> shit out of him while you yell "I'm English."

Funnily enough my hubby makes jokes about people not daring to disagree with
me when I'm wearing them. LOL

> Honestly, I did research Rammstein once I heard of them just to make sure
> they weren't neo-Nazis. How would I know? They sing in German and I don't
> understand German. I don't listen to Christian rock, I don't care how good
> the music is. It just doesn't work for me. I got to agree with what my
> bands are singing or at least know, like for Rammstein, they're not for
> something I disagree with.

I can understand you wanting to do that.

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I bought a CD of Gouranga music off a Krisna monk in Keswick once. He
called it "monk rock" and it's actually quite good! Gave it to my sis as
she collects oddities and top quality tat. It's on display next to her
glow-in-the-dark rosary from Rome and her 'Feral Cheryl' hippy doll from
Australia.

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On 16 Oct, 11:51, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I had to look up lithotripsy and it sounds like no picnic. Eeek!

Yes. I had the internal one, and I recently found out that the tube
they poke up one's...er...thingy...er...you know...is a little bigger
than the diameter of a biro. It has to take the fibre optic camera,
and the actual laser zapper thing. I am *so* glad I did not know the
size of it before I had the op - I probably would have declined. I
certainly felt the results for about two weeks... :-(

>
> <foot pain>
>
> >> I wouldn't inflict on my worst enemy. First thing in the morning it was
> >> like walking on broken glass. And that was on a good day when I could
> >> walk.
>
> > Wow. Pretty awful. And you say the boots and inserts have helped?
> > Are they the only long-term solution?
>
> The best for me, I reckon. The only other long term solution is surgery
> which actually severs part of the plantar facia but can often cause more
> problems such as fallen arches and rotation of the outer part of the foot,
> so the inserts in my opinion are far preferable as it keeps my feet in a
> natural position and as a knock on effect improves my posture and gait, so
> backache, headaches and such are a thing of the past.

Good stuff!

>
> <square fashion>
>
> >> Nothing square about that. So long as you haven't started wearing a
> >> thick
> >> woolly cardy with patch pockets and smoking a pipe.
>
> > Er...<stuffs wooly cardy under desk, puts out pipe>...no, no, not at
> > all.
>
> > I'm pretty well dressed, really, which is mainly down to my wife. She
> > works for the London College of Fashion, so she's kind of got a clue
> > about such things.
>
> Excellent! I wish I could take free reign with my hubby but he's more fussy
> than any woman I know!
>

I used to be, but she beat me down...

<snip>

> > I used to have a PDA. I kept forgetting to take it to
> > work with me, which reduced its effectiveness significantly.
>
> LOL I write things down then forget to look at my list, so even the old
> fashioned ways are flawed!
>

I often make mental notes, and lose them...

:-)

Steve


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> On 16 Oct, 11:51, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, I had to look up lithotripsy and it sounds like no picnic. Eeek!
>
> Yes. I had the internal one, and I recently found out that the tube
> they poke up one's...er...thingy...er...you know...is a little bigger
> than the diameter of a biro. It has to take the fibre optic camera,
> and the actual laser zapper thing. I am *so* glad I did not know the
> size of it before I had the op - I probably would have declined. I
> certainly felt the results for about two weeks... :-(

<crosses legs>

<faints>


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Lisa

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On 16 Oct, 12:10, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>


> I bought a CD of Gouranga music off a Krisna monk in Keswick once. He
> called it "monk rock" and it's actually quite good! Gave it to my sis as
> she collects oddities and top quality tat.

Ooo! If she likes that kind of odd stuff, buy her "Epitaph" by
Sverrir Gudjonsson (
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Epitaph-Medieval-Iceland-Traditional/dp/B00000IL5C/ref=sr_1_1/026-3385283-2559614?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1192541288&sr=8-1
). Medieval Icelandic songs sung by this Icelandic counter-tenor guy,
it's really spooky and weird.

> It's on display next to her glow-in-the-dark rosary from Rome and her 'Feral Cheryl' hippy doll from
> Australia.
>

When I went to Russia recently I asked my friends if (aside from
vodka) there was anything they wanted me to bring them back. My
friend Rachel asked for "a feral child". She'd seen a documentary on
Channel 4, about there being an abundance of feral children in Russia,
and thought they looked fun. I told here that since she'd failed to
keep even some Sea Monkeys alive for more than a week, a feral child
was out of the question.

:-)

Steve

za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk

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On 16 Oct, 12:56, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <z...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

Yes. I still can't face cranberry juice...

Steve.

JD

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za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk wrote:
> On 16 Oct, 00:12, JD <J...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>> Of course I forget that here in the UK even though we may feel we're in
>>> a remote place we're never all that far from civilisation. The kinds of
>>> yokels you talk about are an endangered species over here. We're just
>>> so small a country we don't have the same concept of distance as you lot
>>> over there <-----------. :-)
>> We're civilized here in west Texas. There are 200,000 people in the
>> region which is not nearly as many as a place like Dallas or Houston but
>> we're still city-folk. <g>
>>
>> I can agree with the concept of distance since I can see forever when
>> I'm on the roof of my house. It's very, very flat out here.
>
> Yeah, in the UK, even though, as Mrs. L. says, we're physically a tiny
> nation, we do have *some* open spaces still, but you're never more
> than an hour's drive from some kind of significant settlement.

I see now. England, 50,346 sq mi, Texas, 261,797 sq mi. You're tiny!

>> If you showed up wearing those boots you sent the link to, my painter
>> would ask you "are you a Nazi?" I'd hold him down and you could kick the
>> shit out of him while you yell "I'm English."
>>
>> Honestly, I did research Rammstein once I heard of them just to make
>> sure they weren't neo-Nazis. How would I know? They sing in German and I
>> don't understand German. I don't listen to Christian rock, I don't care
>> how good the music is. It just doesn't work for me.
>
> Amen, Brother! :-) I would have said the words "Christian" and
> "Rock" would have been impossible to have in the same sentence, but
> apparently such bands exist.

Hell, they have a "Christian rock festival" here every Summer. It rains
almost every time and it doesn't rain that much here. Pretty funny. A
little scary.

> Steve
>


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JD

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I had to Google: England, 50,346 sq mi, Texas, 261,797 sq mi. You're
making me claustrophobic. <g>

> Incidentally, after reading up a bit about Rammstein on Wikipedia, I
> decided to get an idea of the places it mentioned, such as the village
> Till Lindemann grew up in, so I put them into Google Earth. There are
> some great aerial views of Wendich-Rambow, Schwerin and Berlin!

Google Maps are cool!

>> If you showed up wearing those boots you sent the link to, my painter
>> would ask you "are you a Nazi?" I'd hold him down and you could kick
>> the shit out of him while you yell "I'm English."
>
> Funnily enough my hubby makes jokes about people not daring to disagree
> with me when I'm wearing them. LOL
>
>> Honestly, I did research Rammstein once I heard of them just to make
>> sure they weren't neo-Nazis. How would I know? They sing in German and
>> I don't understand German. I don't listen to Christian rock, I don't
>> care how good the music is. It just doesn't work for me. I got to
>> agree with what my bands are singing or at least know, like for
>> Rammstein, they're not for something I disagree with.
>
> I can understand you wanting to do that.
>


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za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
> When I went to Russia recently I asked my friends if (aside from
> vodka) there was anything they wanted me to bring them back. My
> friend Rachel asked for "a feral child". She'd seen a documentary on
> Channel 4, about there being an abundance of feral children in Russia,
> and thought they looked fun. I told here that since she'd failed to
> keep even some Sea Monkeys alive for more than a week, a feral child
> was out of the question.

Brilliant! I have to ask though, was she serious? I mean, I have a
friend is almost as daft.

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Mrs Lumpless

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za...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk wrote:
> On 16 Oct, 12:10, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I bought a CD of Gouranga music off a Krisna monk in Keswick once. He
>> called it "monk rock" and it's actually quite good! Gave it to my sis as
>> she collects oddities and top quality tat.
>
> Ooo! If she likes that kind of odd stuff, buy her "Epitaph" by
> Sverrir Gudjonsson (
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Epitaph-Medieval-Iceland-Traditional/dp/B00000IL5C/ref=sr_1_1/026-3385283-2559614?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1192541288&sr=8-1
> ). Medieval Icelandic songs sung by this Icelandic counter-tenor guy,
> it's really spooky and weird.


I recognise that name ... is he the guy who taught some old Icelandic
songs to Ray Mears when he visited there? If so, I know the type of
music you mean.

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On 16 Oct, 18:15, Mrs Lumpless <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Nah, she wasn't serious, just silly, like me...

Steve

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On 16 Oct, 18:42, Mrs Lumpless <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> z...@emphyrio.demon.co.uk wrote:
> > On 16 Oct, 12:10, "Mrs Lumpless" <lisa_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I bought a CD of Gouranga music off a Krisna monk in Keswick once. He
> >> called it "monk rock" and it's actually quite good! Gave it to my sis as
> >> she collects oddities and top quality tat.
>
> > Ooo! If she likes that kind of odd stuff, buy her "Epitaph" by
> > Sverrir Gudjonsson (
> >http://www.amazon.co.uk/Epitaph-Medieval-Iceland-Traditional/dp/B0000...

> > ). Medieval Icelandic songs sung by this Icelandic counter-tenor guy,
> > it's really spooky and weird.
>
> I recognise that name ... is he the guy who taught some old Icelandic
> songs to Ray Mears when he visited there? If so, I know the type of
> music you mean.
>
> --
> Lisa

Hmm. I don't *think* so, but then I've not seen the show.

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=186551653&s=143444&i=186551698

is an example of Gudjonsson's singing (though not from "Epitaph", as
it happens), if you have iTunes. I don't reckon Mr. Mears could get
that high... ;-)

Steve

Mrs Lumpless

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Right, well I'mm leaving for work now, but I'll have a listen as soon as
I can. :-)

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