>and the I DONT NEED YOUR FUCKING LOVE song is by the manic street >preachers..the song is ROSES IN THE HOSPITAL and the album is GOLD AGAINST >THE >SOUL.
yeaH. I have a live version of that on my Japanese import copy of THB. :P
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> i think i was misunderstood. i was talking about two different systems. i > know that my room is not a closed system, nor did i say so. the part about > isolated systems was completely independent of the room thing. sorry for > any confusion. > craig.
umm..ok.
> > food has to be metabolized in order to do the work of cleaning my room. > > this process(the cleaning and metabolizing)is exothermic, releasing heat > > into the surroundings, hence, the entropy within my room is increased.
you ARE, in fact, assuming that your room is a closed system if the heat released from your body is contributing only to the entropy of your room, and not outside your room. you set the room as your 'system':
> > if i cleaned my room, i'm not increasing the disorder elsewhere, but > > actually in my room, the system.
if you're talking about yoru body being the system, and your room being the surroundings, then the entropy of the room is increased. However, since the room isn't a closed system, the entropy of the universe is increased as well. the only way your argument works is if you refer to the room as a completely closed system, and you just said it wasn't what you meant. so what are you trying to say?
sarah -- Here's a good joke to do during an earthquake: straddle a big crack in the ground, and if it opens wider, go "Whoa! Whoa!" and flail your arms around, like you're going to fall in.
<snip a bunch of stuff that I read all the way through>
.> ok that's my "lucy_potato."
> and yeah, i know randy. bitter bitter bitter
Alright, I get the picture. I haven't been fulfilling my radcon pledge very well lately. I have to rethink this whole Lucy Potato thing. Do I keep the name or switch back to my old one? Hmmmm....
<thinks for a moment>
Well, Lucy Potato is suppose to be much more fun, and though that's a stretch for me, I think with a little extra sweat and blood, I can manage to be far more silly than I have been lately.
Off to buy a new toothbrush.
-- Nothing matters but the weekend From a Tuesday point of view Like a kettle in the kitchen I feel the steam begin to brew
ok, here goes. let this be the nail in the coffin, i hope.:) ok let me redefine everything, and this is what i set out to do, i think i confused myself in the beginning: desk=system me=surroundings air around me=surroundings room=makeshift universe. i straighten up the desk and the entropy (of my desk) decreases, but as i straighten up the desk i make and release heat. the second law states that if entropy decreases in in a system, the entropy of the surroundings must be greater, so that the change in entropy of the universe is always greater than 0. er umm, i think thats it? craig.
> > i think i was misunderstood. i was talking about two different systems. i > > know that my room is not a closed system, nor did i say so. the part about > > isolated systems was completely independent of the room thing. sorry for > > any confusion. > > craig.
> umm..ok.
> > > food has to be metabolized in order to do the work of cleaning my room. > > > this process(the cleaning and metabolizing)is exothermic, releasing heat > > > into the surroundings, hence, the entropy within my room is increased.
> you ARE, in fact, assuming that your room is a closed system if the heat > released from your body is contributing only to the entropy of your > room, and not outside your room. you set the room as your 'system':
> > > if i cleaned my room, i'm not increasing the disorder elsewhere, but > > > actually in my room, the system.
> if you're talking about yoru body being the system, and your room being > the surroundings, then the entropy of the room is increased. However, > since the room isn't a closed system, the entropy of the universe is > increased as well. the only way your argument works is if you refer to > the room as a completely closed system, and you just said it wasn't what > you meant. so what are you trying to say?
> sarah > -- > Here's a good joke to do during an earthquake: straddle a big crack in > the ground, and if it opens wider, go "Whoa! Whoa!" and flail your arms > around, like you're going to fall in.
I got a new toothbrush yesterday. I think I had had the same one for at least two years. I'm happy that my new one looks exactly like my old one because change is scary.
Leslie First you're afraid you're gonna die, and then you're afraid you won't. it's scream and cry month
>I got a new toothbrush yesterday. I think I had had the same one for at >least >two years. I'm happy that my new one looks exactly like my old one because >change is scary.
>Leslie
i bought this really big and long toothbrush with all these weird bristles sticking out and crap, to get all the nooks and crannies of my teeth. amen.
10. anti-depressants. 9. christmas carols in the bathroom of the ritz hotel. 8. decaying cells. my skin is flaking off gradually into the room. 7. i am sorely unprepared for the task at hand. 6. i have script for a tv show which i will auction off to the highest bidder. 5. i wet the bed as a child a few times. 4. my remote control alters the channels on the television, but at the moment it does not regulate my body temperature. 3. when i am far away from home, i build a chain of retail stores and exercise my power over the common man. this makes me more comfortable for a while. 2. flash bathroom allows me to be confident about my family's hygeine, while freeing up valuable time for me to watch soap operas in the afernoon. 1. an amateur theatre production of sense and sensibility, played backwards at normal speed.
> Lucy Potatostick: > >Off to buy a new toothbrush.
> I got a new toothbrush yesterday. I think I had had the same one for at least > two years. I'm happy that my new one looks exactly like my old one because > change is scary.
Was this because of my post? Until a few years ago, I never knew enough to change my toothbrush after I was sick. Now, I change my toothbrush about every three months (what dentists say). Teeth need looking after. They are definitely high maintenance items. Sometimes I just want to go to bed, but oh damn, I haven't brushed my teeth yet.
Change is scary, but for me, I usually pick different colours. If I'm on pink now, it'll be blue next and so on....
Oh, don't brush too hard; it isn't necessary and it ruins the gums (advice I got when I used to be able to afford a dentist).
-- Spent all my money, and I'm feeling good I've got to party in my neighborhood I've got my supplies from my friendly store The party started I reach for more
>> I got a new toothbrush yesterday. I think I had had the same one for at >least >> two years. I'm happy that my new one looks exactly like my old one >because >> change is scary.
>Was this because of my post? Until a few years ago, I never knew enough to >change my toothbrush after I was sick. Now, I change my toothbrush about >every three months (what dentists say). Teeth need looking after. They are >definitely high maintenance items. Sometimes I just want to go to bed, but >oh damn, I haven't brushed my teeth yet.
I think you talking about toothbrushes reminded me that I had had the same one forever.
>Change is scary, but for me, I usually pick different colours. If I'm on >pink now, it'll be blue next and so on....
I used to do that, but my new one is the same as the old one: white with red on it.
Leslie First you're afraid you're gonna die, and then you're afraid you won't. it's scream and cry month
> 4.Why are people drawn to simpler music? it seems like people dont want to > mature or to learn anymore. maybe it all sticks with wanting to stay young > forever?
simpler music is easier to enjoy. you can witness this phenomenon in newspapers. they always do pyramid stories. they have a headline, a summary and then the proper article. all of this is so that when you lose interest you can stop reading without losing continuity. you know what's going on at a glance. with simple music, instead of taking fifty listens to enjoy something, you can get into it in fifty seconds. and then it becomes a standard genre, and then there's no way out. the radio stations aren't going to play anything much longer than 3 minutes, because people won't mind a 3 min song they don't like. they will mind a 15 min song they don't like.
ultimately, simple songs are easier for the mind and for the media to digest, so they end up more popular.
plus, most people don't actually like music all that much anyway. they aren't going to bother with something difficult. they'd rather carry on using it as a social badge, thanks very much.
sAAARRRRRah sung wrote: > if you're talking about yoru body being the system, and your room being > the surroundings, then the entropy of the room is increased. However, > since the room isn't a closed system, the entropy of the universe is > increased as well. the only way your argument works is if you refer to > the room as a completely closed system, and you just said it wasn't what > you meant. so what are you trying to say?
> sarah
aah pedanticism. amr i missed ye.
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> > if you're talking about yoru body being the system, and your room being > > the surroundings, then the entropy of the room is increased. However, > > since the room isn't a closed system, the entropy of the universe is > > increased as well. the only way your argument works is if you refer to > > the room as a completely closed system, and you just said it wasn't what > > you meant. so what are you trying to say?
> > sarah
> aah pedanticism. amr i missed ye.
AARARARGH. i was just annoyed at the fact that he came parading in as if he was right and i was wrong, saying not to gang up on him because he's "only an undergraduate cheme major." that was just lame. he doesn't understand what he was talking about, but it made me look stupid so i had to explain entropy how it fuckin is, OK??? it's not about arrogance or pedanticism. sheesh.
sarah -- Here's a good joke to do during an earthquake: straddle a big crack in the ground, and if it opens wider, go "Whoa! Whoa!" and flail your arms around, like you're going to fall in.
> "> what about on the radiohead site then, too? anyone seen the world trade > orgy things? i don't buy it. i surfed all those sites trying to find out > stuff, and, i dunno, it definitely seems dodgy, but they didn't do much > explaining. they talked about bad stuff the wto has done but there > arguments seemed extremely dogmatic. i'm still trying to find out some > decent stuff on that organisation. i want to know how it's run... and > how it can be undemocratic if the officials are appointed by our elected > governments, and what specifically is going wrong... can anyone help?
Here's a little article in Toronto's 'Now'. The beginning part is more relevant to your post while the second half is more about the writer's personal experiences.
Democracy? I'm not sure if we are entirely a democracy. In Ontario there are talks of changing universal health care to a two tiered system. Many people are against this, but it is slowly being ploughed through. There are problems with the system as it is now, like waiting lists and such, but at least there is a waiting list. Though I must admit, people are to blame. Many (not myself) want tax cuts and in order to fund this promised tax cuts they have to take funds from somewhere and that is health care, education and so on. If people had to choose between universal health care and tax cuts, I think that the universal health care would get more support. Problem: the direct relationship between the tax cuts and health care is not discussed. Why? Because people like 'his lord' fucking majesty Conrad Black controls much of the media. The self-interest of a small percentage of people is taking precedence over the rest of society. If you are so inclined check out the 'greying and greedy' post about the boomer's hold over the rest of us.
> > > if you're talking about yoru body being the system, and your room being > > > the surroundings, then the entropy of the room is increased. However, > > > since the room isn't a closed system, the entropy of the universe is > > > increased as well. the only way your argument works is if you refer to > > > the room as a completely closed system, and you just said it wasn't what > > > you meant. so what are you trying to say?
> > > sarah
> > aah pedanticism. amr i missed ye.
> AARARARGH. i was just annoyed at the fact that he came parading in as if > he was right and i was wrong, saying not to gang up on him because he's > "only an undergraduate cheme major." that was just lame. he doesn't > understand what he was talking about, but it made me look stupid so i > had to explain entropy how it fuckin is, OK??? it's not about arrogance > or pedanticism. sheesh.
uh-huh. i believe you. now just calm down a little. it'll all be ok. :)
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>simpler music is easier to enjoy. you can witness this phenomenon in >newspapers. they always do pyramid stories. they have a headline, a >summary and then the proper
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it was a friggin rhetorical question!! !!! but nice responces ya'll :)
I'm sorry i didnt mean to make anyone mad, but i have to defend myself and say i do understand what i'm talking about. i pay thousands of dollars a year so people can explain things to me and eventually i will understand everything.
sAAARRRRRah sung <efferd...@fights.odor.removes.stains> wrote in message
> > > if you're talking about yoru body being the system, and your room being > > > the surroundings, then the entropy of the room is increased. However, > > > since the room isn't a closed system, the entropy of the universe is > > > increased as well. the only way your argument works is if you refer to > > > the room as a completely closed system, and you just said it wasn't what > > > you meant. so what are you trying to say?
> > > sarah
> > aah pedanticism. amr i missed ye.
> AARARARGH. i was just annoyed at the fact that he came parading in as if > he was right and i was wrong, saying not to gang up on him because he's > "only an undergraduate cheme major." that was just lame. he doesn't > understand what he was talking about, but it made me look stupid so i > had to explain entropy how it fuckin is, OK??? it's not about arrogance > or pedanticism. sheesh.
> sarah > -- > Here's a good joke to do during an earthquake: straddle a big crack in > the ground, and if it opens wider, go "Whoa! Whoa!" and flail your arms > around, like you're going to fall in.
>> AARARARGH. i was just annoyed at the fact that he came parading in as if >> he was right and i was wrong, saying not to gang up on him because he's >> "only an undergraduate cheme major." that was just lame. he doesn't >> understand what he was talking about, but it made me look stupid so i >> had to explain entropy how it fuckin is, OK??? it's not about arrogance >> or pedanticism. sheesh.
>uh-huh. i believe you. now just calm down a little. it'll all be ok. :)
hahahahhahaha....
evan -- p.s. everyone not old enough to vote should defer to my will by default.
>I'm sorry i didnt mean to make anyone mad, but i have to defend myself and >say i do understand what i'm talking about. i pay thousands of dollars a >year so people can explain things to me and eventually i will understand >everything.
ohhhhhhhhhhh.....don't talk to sarah about having to spend money for school..
nuh uh. she wins, hands down.
twentieth century bitch oh sweetheart, oh holy mother, nothing nothing nothing ever felt this good
craig wrote: > I'm sorry i didnt mean to make anyone mad, but i have to defend myself and > say i do understand what i'm talking about. i pay thousands of dollars a > year so people can explain things to me and eventually i will understand > everything.
hahahahahaaha
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>hahahahhahaha.... then Tish went: > hahahahahaaha
[looking around insecurely]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAhaha.. ha.
sarah ps. evan is a dirty piece of crap. =P -- survey: name one thing you want to do before you die el faxman: what does it matter? i'll eventually end up doing something for the rest of my life, work till i'm 70 or whatever the retirement age will be way in the future, if i have kids i'll have to work my ass off to support them, and i'll be a constant ball of worry and stress. i'll probably die of a heart attack or cancer, or i'll live to be 100 and be one of those cranky folk that smell funny.
>> I'm sorry i didnt mean to make anyone mad, but i have to defend myself and >> say i do understand what i'm talking about. i pay thousands of dollars a >> year so people can explain things to me and eventually i will understand >> everything.
yeah. ok. you'll never understand much of anything. sorry i had to break it to you that way, but it saves you from future dissapointment.
