Online Prodigy Center: New Left Frame Layout
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that the only people who have complained about the left frame have been
EN members), and it seems that Paul gave me a good idea - it was to put
the sections into bigger categories. So I decided on redesigning the
frame, and now it contains the links in an easy-to use form, grouped in
categories. Visit the site at http://www.prodigy.geomax.net/, and see
what I'm talking about!
This is probably only temporary, and not the final state of the page, so
I'd like to hear your comments and suggestions on how to improve the
design! Please email me at "prodigy [at] geomax.net"! Thanks for all
your help!
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> Pete: "An incredible amount of content is here, but you'll have to
wade
> your way through the site which is designed poorly.
I'm interested in your opinion now that the left frame been re-designed.
>The frame on the left side seems to be the winner of a
'fill-it-up-with-as
>-many-headers-as-you-can' competition,
Really? If I wanted to win that, I could put over 20,000 there. Or a lot
more.
>many of them not needed as some could quite easily fit into the more
>important sections. Of course, this'll impress the easily-amused,
8-D
>and maybe they'll be taken in by the false claim on the front page -
>"Largest and most popular Prodigy Information Archive on the net!",
I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims is wrong.
>it proclaims, despite being smaller than EN.
Not proven.
>The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes.
Really? Care to point out those mistakes?
>The site does have a fairly good discography,
Fairly good? Apart from Kotta's site (which is excellent), there's no
other site whose discography comes close to it.
>and the news pages are quite full (it's one of the few websites to have
>permission to use short extracts of EN News).
Thanks.
>The polls make interesting reading, the history is quite original and
>the tour dates are useful.
How come you only point out the most basic sections that almost all
sites have? There are tons you seem to be forgetting about, which give
The Center its real value.
>Cynically, you could say the site is an overgrown FAQ, and looks
terrible with the new unwanted
>additions of banner adverts and "get-paid-for-surfing" scam links.
They are probably only temporary, and I need some income from a site
I've put enormous energy into.
>But it's a good place to start off with if you're a newbie.
>Just prepare to handle the daft navigation!"
It must be daft for those to whom "April 4" means more than
"Discography"!
And here are Paul's comments:
>You'd think by having all the links in a bar along the left it would
make
>getting about this site easy but it really doesn't. Because the links
are not
>sorted into any kind of catagories and have unhelpful names, it's
really a
Done! Thanks, actually this was a great idea!
>let down on this information packed site. There are many interesting
features
>but again they are hard to find and read at points.
Don't forget there's a search engine! (Which is sometimes much more
effective than EN's full-text seeker)
>The author has obvious talent with Javascript.
Thanks.
>A totally new design and organisation would bump my rating of
Not totally new design, but this may help a lot navigate!
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>I've read the reviews of the Online Prodigy Center on EN (it's strange
>that the only people who have complained about the left frame have been
>EN members),
Does this make their views any less valid?
> and it seems that Paul gave me a good idea
Well, not just Paul. I have been trying to drop that massive hint to
you for some time now!
>- it was to put the sections into bigger categories.
I've got a sudden feeling of deja-vu here.
>So I decided on redesigning the
>frame, and now it contains the links in an easy-to use form, grouped in
>categories. Visit the site at http://www.prodigy.geomax.net/, and see
>what I'm talking about!
>This is probably only temporary, and not the final state of the page, so
>I'd like to hear your comments and suggestions on how to improve the
>design! Please email me at "prodigy [at] geomax.net"! Thanks for all
>your help!
It's marginally better. Keeping the 11 'main' headers there would be
better.
>> Pete: "An incredible amount of content is here, but you'll have to
>wade
>> your way through the site which is designed poorly.
>I'm interested in your opinion now that the left frame been re-designed.
Well, one of the reasons I enter in the review dates on the links
pages is so that we can go back to review when sites have considerably
changed.
>>The frame on the left side seems to be the winner of a
>'fill-it-up-with-as
>>-many-headers-as-you-can' competition,
>Really? If I wanted to win that, I could put over 20,000 there. Or a lot
>more.
So could we, but I prefer a better design.
>>many of them not needed as some could quite easily fit into the more
>>important sections. Of course, this'll impress the easily-amused,
>8-D
Matthew Dallas loves your site...
>>and maybe they'll be taken in by the false claim on the front page -
>>"Largest and most popular Prodigy Information Archive on the net!",
>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims is wrong.
I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims are true.
>>it proclaims, despite being smaller than EN.
>Not proven.
Count the content then.
>>The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes.
>Really? Care to point out those mistakes?
"Remixed By Prodigy: Factory Girl"
"Benny Blanco (Voice by John Leguziamo in the film Carlito’s Way)
(Notes)
Hey, remember me? Benny Blanco from the Bronx?
What the fuck are you lookin at? (only the fake version contains this
line)
Everytime we play, we are the ruffest, we are the ruffest – see!
All together, all together, all together, all together"
"Now hear dis – see that you are"
"We Eat Rhythm (Vocals by Maxim) "
"Unbelievable "
"Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed Brown
by
Prodigy fans. "
"I’m the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
"Intro (Voice by Pierce Brosnan in the The Lawnmower Man) "
"Fuck the law but you can’t beat the law "
"We’re going full throttle (Distorted)"
"Speedway (Theme from Fastlane)
Fly away, fly away... "
"Go around, go around
Wind it up, go around "
"Let’s jet out, we’ll goose at hyperspeed"
"Goose here probably means to give a spurt of fuel to (a motor) to
increase speed. If you disagree (that is, you think he says cruise
instead of
goose), please listen more closely, and you will hear it really is
goose! "
"Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
vocals by Keith Flint) "
"We gonna rock, mutherfucker
We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
We gonna rock, we gonna rock, motherf***er "
"In The Beginning "
"Rat rat rat rat rat poison "
"Religion
Right’ branded on my brow
’Wrong’ graven on my mind
You see, the sin is in me
When will it stop unfolding
When will I ever be face to face
With the devil in me
(Chorus)
Let me burn you... let me burn you...
Let me burn you down...
Let me burn you... let me burn you...
Let me burn you down...
Burn you down...
(Let me... let me...)
Brain wants to rule the heart
Heart wants to tie the hands
Unseat the assassin in me
So you cry, not to give it away
So you lie...
(Chorus)
Born with a wicked charm
Torn by this driving harm
You see, it moves into me
So you lie, not to give it away
So you cry
(Chorus) "
"Zeroes And Ones
(Original by Jesus Jones; Remixed by Liam)
Across the world the message flies
Information, truth and lies
It’s all yours and it`s all mine
You just have to find the time
We’re all the same, we share the blame, we play the games
If it’s yes or no the decision is easy, it’s easy
Zeroes and ones will take us there.
This time the revolution will be computerised
You’ll know it as you do it
In real time before your eyes
Slip between realities
There’s more to this than anything that you or I can see
The world is mine, the world is yours and here’s the cause
Zeroes and ones will take us there.
I’ve stared into the heart of it all
Seen the pictures on the wall
The beat of a heart
The oceans part and the patterns in my mind
This time, we’ve split the world once more
There’s those that have and that don`t in information wars
Wer’e not alone ’cos all is known, and it`s everywhere
Zeroes and ones will take us there.
"
"Made In Two Minutes
(Original by Bug Kann & The Plastic Jam; Remixed by Liam)
Hear the drum on the dancefloor is rap
Oh God! This is real! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Don’t waste no time, if you know it’s right
Cos you’ll regret it for the rest of your life
Hear the drum on the dancefloor is rap
Hear the drum on the dancefloor is rap
Oh God! Yeah!
Don’t waste no time, if you know it’s right
Cos you’ll regret it for the rest of your life
This is real! Yeah! Yeah! Oh God! Yeah!
"
>>The site does have a fairly good discography,
>Fairly good? Apart from Kotta's site (which is excellent), there's no
>other site whose discography comes close to it.
Why is linked really oddly?
>>and the news pages are quite full (it's one of the few websites to have
>>permission to use short extracts of EN News).
>Thanks.
>>The polls make interesting reading, the history is quite original and
>>the tour dates are useful.
>How come you only point out the most basic sections that almost all
>sites have? There are tons you seem to be forgetting about, which give
>The Center its real value.
The humor section?
>>Cynically, you could say the site is an overgrown FAQ, and looks
>terrible with the new unwanted
>>additions of banner adverts and "get-paid-for-surfing" scam links.
>They are probably only temporary, and I need some income from a site
>I've put enormous energy into.
I'm typing this after a 4 hours of work on EN, btw.
>>But it's a good place to start off with if you're a newbie.
>>Just prepare to handle the daft navigation!"
>It must be daft for those to whom "April 4" means more than
>"Discography"!
If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
April 4th, you know what's going on.
But when you go to a site, and see before you things like "Advised",
"opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
>And here are Paul's comments:
>>You'd think by having all the links in a bar along the left it would
>make
>>getting about this site easy but it really doesn't. Because the links
>are not
>>sorted into any kind of catagories and have unhelpful names, it's
>really a
>Done! Thanks, actually this was a great idea!
Um, one that has been going around for a while...
>>The author has obvious talent with Javascript.
>Thanks.
>>A totally new design and organisation would bump my rating of
>Not totally new design, but this may help a lot navigate!
It's only slightly better. It still needs more of a change.
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> >that the only people who have complained about the left frame have been
> >EN members),
I agree.
> Does this make their views any less valid?
Does your opinion that they were "easily amused" make the views of the
people who voted OPC superior to EN any less valid?
<SNIP>
> "Benny Blanco (Voice by John Leguziamo in the film Carlito’s Way)
> (Notes)
>
> Hey, remember me? Benny Blanco from the Bronx?
> What the fuck are you lookin at? (only the fake version contains this
> line)
What's wrong with that?
> Everytime we play, we are the ruffest, we are the ruffest – see!
> All together, all together, all together, all together"
> "We Eat Rhythm (Vocals by Maxim) "
That was the live version...the vocals were by Maxim...
> "Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed Brown
> by Prodigy fans. "
What's wrong with that?
> "I’m the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
> "We’re going full throttle (Distorted)"
What's wrong with that?
> "Speedway (Theme from Fastlane)
>
> Fly away, fly away... "
Yeah...what the hell is that??
> "Go around, go around
> Wind it up, go around "
????
Where did you pull this from.
> "Let’s jet out, we’ll goose at hyperspeed"
> "Goose here probably means to give a spurt of fuel to (a motor) to
> increase speed. If you disagree (that is, you think he says cruise
> instead of
> goose), please listen more closely, and you will hear it really is
> goose! "
What's wrong with that?
> "Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
> vocals by Keith Flint) "
What's wrong with that?
> "We gonna rock, mutherfucker
>
> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, motherf***er "
What's wrong with that?
>
> "Religion
<SNIP>
Those are the lyrics to the original Religion, it's right.
> "Zeroes And Ones
> (Original by Jesus Jones; Remixed by Liam)
Those are the lyrcs to the original as well...also correct.
> "Made In Two Minutes
> (Original by Bug Kann & The Plastic Jam; Remixed by Liam)
<SNIP>
What's wrong with that?
> >>The site does have a fairly good discography,
> >Fairly good? Apart from Kotta's site (which is excellent), there's no
> >other site whose discography comes close to it.
>
> Why is linked really oddly?
You seem to think that many things are odd that not many others have
problems with...yet you think your site is comprehensive and
easier-to-navigate. That's hilarious. Someone should rate your site
following your own criteria.
> >>The polls make interesting reading, the history is quite original and
> >>the tour dates are useful.
> >How come you only point out the most basic sections that almost all
> >sites have? There are tons you seem to be forgetting about, which give
> >The Center its real value.
>
> The humor section?
No, the 20+ others.
And those are quite amusing; I'd prefer that to the Credits section any
day.
> >>Cynically, you could say the site is an overgrown FAQ, and looks
> >terrible with the new unwanted
> >>additions of banner adverts and "get-paid-for-surfing" scam links.
> >They are probably only temporary, and I need some income from a site
> >I've put enormous energy into.
>
> I'm typing this after a 4 hours of work on EN, btw.
You want a cookie?
> >>But it's a good place to start off with if you're a newbie.
> >>Just prepare to handle the daft navigation!"
> >It must be daft for those to whom "April 4" means more than
> >"Discography"!
>
> If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
> April 4th, you know what's going on.
Will it be a Prodigy concert review? Will it be a new Janus Stark song?
Have Leeroy and Sarah bought a new house? Was One Love have playing in
the background on a used car sales ad? I havew no clue, because "April
4th" DOESN'T TELL ME JACK ABOUT WHAT THE CONTENTS OF THE PAGE WILL BE.
It gives me a date, but I haven't the foggiest idea what the page will
be about. And that's what all 400= pages of your News section are like!
SOUNDS LIKE AN AWFULLY DAFT WAY TO NAVIGATE!
No no no, I know exactly what will be on that page, what am I thinking,
all thanks to that handy little explanation that pops up on my nav bar.
Thank goodness, I didn't have to waste perecious seconds of my life to
click on the page and see what's in it. Thank godness for that. Oh, wait
a minute...
Oh well, so what if the EN News is 10000x harder to navigate than
OPC...at least every single page is chock full of useful
information...oh, what's this...
"Sorry, not a single scrap of news."
Good thing so very few of the pages are like this. Oh, wait...
> But when you go to a site, and see before you things like "Advised",
> "opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
And then you look at the nav bar...whew! Glad I didn't have to be
confused any longer! Glad I didn't have to wait the whole 10 seconds it
would take the page to load. Thank God almighty, I'm saved the horror
and the confusion!
> >>A totally new design and organisation would bump my rating of
> >Not totally new design, but this may help a lot navigate!
> It's only slightly better. It still needs more of a change.
It was fine before; it's fine now. The only way you could find OPC's
navigation daft is if you are daft yourself.
> "I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
Yeah, obviously.
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"I think you'd better reboot your life..." - Steff
DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>Does this make their views any less valid?
Yes...
>> and it seems that Paul gave me a good idea
>Well, not just Paul. I have been trying to drop that massive hint to
>you for some time now!
No... you've been whinging about OPC for a long time...
>>- it was to put the sections into bigger categories.
>I've got a sudden feeling of deja-vu here.
Gameshowhost "spoof" your account again?
>>>many of them not needed as some could quite easily fit into the more
>>>important sections. Of course, this'll impress the easily-amused,
>>8-D
>Matthew Dallas loves your site...
Peter Thomas (Im supposed to be proud for saying that? :-\) hates your
site...
>>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims is wrong.
>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims are true.
Why don't you show some proof that those claims are wrong?
>>>it proclaims, despite being smaller than EN.
>>Not proven.
>Count the content then.
Done... OPC is bigger, busier and better...
>>>The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes.
>>Really? Care to point out those mistakes?
>"Remixed By Prodigy: Factory Girl"
Thats a lyric?
>"Benny Blanco (Voice by John Leguziamo in the film Carlito’s Way)
>(Notes)
>Hey, remember me? Benny Blanco from the Bronx?
>What the fuck are you lookin at? (only the fake version contains this
>line)
Hows that wrong?
>"Unbelievable "
Thats a lyric?
>"Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed Brown
>by
>Prodigy fans. "
How's that wrong?
>"I’m the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
Going to whing at Andrew Lowe again?
>"We’re going full throttle (Distorted)"
How's that wrong?
>"Speedway (Theme from Fastlane)
Hows that wrong?
>"Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
>vocals by Keith Flint) "
Hows that wrong?
>"We gonna rock, mutherfucker
Hows that wrong?
>>Fairly good? Apart from Kotta's site (which is excellent), there's no
>>other site whose discography comes close to it.
>Why is linked really oddly?
Why is you have trouble with English language?
>>How come you only point out the most basic sections that almost all
>>sites have? There are tons you seem to be forgetting about, which give
>>The Center its real value.
>The humor section?
Something that EN doesn't have...
>>They are probably only temporary, and I need some income from a site
>>I've put enormous energy into.
>I'm typing this after a 4 hours of work on EN, btw.
In between e-mails to abuse@.coms?
>>It must be daft for those to whom "April 4" means more than
>>"Discography"!
>If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
>April 4th, you know what's going on.
You have no idea about the content...
>But when you go to a site, and see before you things like "Advised",
>"opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
Thats why they have labeled mouseovers...
>>>A totally new design and organisation would bump my rating of
>>Not totally new design, but this may help a lot navigate!
>It's only slightly better. It still needs more of a change.
Still better than EN...
>"I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
Then why are you such a whining bitch?
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<snip>
He changed the frame for you and EN's liking, and you moan like a little
bitch. Don't you have better things to do?
> "I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
It's a 311 lyric...
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DJ Swift
wrote:
>"Sorry, not a single scrap of news."
>Good thing so very few of the pages are like this. Oh, wait...
These are the same pages he counts into his "biggest Prodigy website"
total :D
DJ Swift
wrote:
>> "I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
>It's a 311 lyric...
From my webpage... is it supposed to be significant, Petey?
Peter Thomas
>> >I've read the reviews of the Online Prodigy Center on EN (it's strange
>> >that the only people who have complained about the left frame have been
>> >EN members),
>I agree.
>> Does this make their views any less valid?
>Does your opinion that they were "easily amused" make the views of the
>people who voted OPC superior to EN any less valid?
I remember the things written by those who voted OPC superior to EN.
One particular guy, with a seething hatred for EN, answered the
question "What's the best thing about EN" with :
"The links page, because it gets you out of there!!!!!"
Now, this amused me, as at the time, we never had a links page! He
obviously never looked at EN properly! The same goes for anti-EN
stalwart Matthew 'DJ Swift' Dallas, who also gets his EN stories wrong
with amazing regularity.
So those are the kind of people who think OPC are superior. Fine by
me!
>> "Benny Blanco (Voice by John Leguziamo in the film Carlito’s Way)
>> (Notes)
>> Hey, remember me? Benny Blanco from the Bronx?
>> What the fuck are you lookin at? (only the fake version contains this
>> line)
>What's wrong with that?
Why bother reporting the fake version?
>> Everytime we play, we are the ruffest, we are the ruffest – see!
>> All together, all together, all together, all together"
>> "We Eat Rhythm (Vocals by Maxim) "
>That was the live version...the vocals were by Maxim...
Is this noted on there? Nope.
>> "Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed Brown
>> by Prodigy fans. "
>What's wrong with that?
It's bollocks, that's what.
>> "I’m the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
>What's wrong with that?
It's wrong.
>> "We’re going full throttle (Distorted)"
>What's wrong with that?
"(Reversed)" would be more appropriate.
>> "Speedway (Theme from Fastlane)
>> Fly away, fly away... "
>Yeah...what the hell is that??
Beats me.
>> "Go around, go around
>> Wind it up, go around "
>????
>Where did you pull this from.
OPC's lyrics page, funnily enough.
>> "Let’s jet out, we’ll goose at hyperspeed"
>> "Goose here probably means to give a spurt of fuel to (a motor) to
>> increase speed. If you disagree (that is, you think he says cruise
>> instead of
>> goose), please listen more closely, and you will hear it really is
>> goose! "
>What's wrong with that?
LOL! Oh, per-leeeease.
Does anyone here honestly think it is "goose"? We covered this on the
newsgroup last month, IIRC.
>> "Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
>> vocals by Keith Flint) "
>What's wrong with that?
Keith Flint only appears on the Sunrise Version.
>> "We gonna rock, mutherfucker
>> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
>> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
>> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
>> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, motherf***er "
>What's wrong with that?
I'm curious as to why fucker becomes f***er later on.
>> "Religion
><SNIP>
>Those are the lyrics to the original Religion, it's right.
Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
>> "Zeroes And Ones
>> (Original by Jesus Jones; Remixed by Liam)
>Those are the lyrcs to the original as well...also correct.
Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
>> "Made In Two Minutes
>> (Original by Bug Kann & The Plastic Jam; Remixed by Liam)
>What's wrong with that?
No notification of what version he is quoting from.
>> >>The site does have a fairly good discography,
>> >Fairly good? Apart from Kotta's site (which is excellent), there's no
>> >other site whose discography comes close to it.
>> Why is linked really oddly?
>You seem to think that many things are odd that not many others have
>problems with...yet you think your site is comprehensive and
>easier-to-navigate. That's hilarious. Someone should rate your site
>following your own criteria.
Fair enough, www.prodge.demon.co.uk IS inferior to OPC. I'm going to
take that site down anyway.
>> >>The polls make interesting reading, the history is quite original and
>> >>the tour dates are useful.
>> >How come you only point out the most basic sections that almost all
>> >sites have? There are tons you seem to be forgetting about, which give
>> >The Center its real value.
>> The humor section?
>No, the 20+ others.
Mainly covered by other sites.
>And those are quite amusing; I'd prefer that to the Credits section any
>day.
I could sell you a few videos of Richard Stilgoe if that's your
preferred type of humour.
>> >>Cynically, you could say the site is an overgrown FAQ, and looks
>> >terrible with the new unwanted
>> >>additions of banner adverts and "get-paid-for-surfing" scam links.
>> >They are probably only temporary, and I need some income from a site
>> >I've put enormous energy into.
>> I'm typing this after a 4 hours of work on EN, btw.
>You want a cookie?
No, recognition will be fine thanx.
>> >>But it's a good place to start off with if you're a newbie.
>> >>Just prepare to handle the daft navigation!"
>> >It must be daft for those to whom "April 4" means more than
>> >"Discography"!
>> If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
>> April 4th, you know what's going on.
>Will it be a Prodigy concert review? Will it be a new Janus Stark song?
>Have Leeroy and Sarah bought a new house? Was One Love have playing in
>the background on a used car sales ad?
Let's see shall we?
<hops over to www.earthbound-network.com/p_index.html.
Clicks NEWS.
Clicks 1999.
Clicks April.>
Now, so far, without having actually clicked on the page for April
4th, we can see what is going to be on it.
Here's what I can see...
Week 1 of April 1999
Thu 01 Full details of Greek festival Rockwave with Prodigy
headlining. Rare 1993 Liam DJ mix on EN Radio.
Fri 02 Further details from Radio 1 and The Sun, about Liam's
Gatecrasher DJ set for June - Leeds or Sheffield?
Sat 03
Week 2 of April 1999
Sun 04
Mon 05 URL of new EN site announced. Liam DJing in Ireland this week?
Liam interviewed on XL website.
So, nothing beside April 4th, whereas the 1st, 2nd and 5th do have
some content mentioned.
<clicks on the April 4th link>
Now I see :
SORRY!
Not a single scrap of news related to Prodigy/Liam
Howlett/Maxim/Longman/Janus Stark/Pitch Shifter was found by us
today... or maybe we haven't written it yet? (check later!)
Do take a look at another page!
So, there you go. Just what we expected.
>I havew no clue,
Don't we fucking know it.
>because "April
>4th" DOESN'T TELL ME JACK ABOUT WHAT THE CONTENTS OF THE PAGE WILL BE.
>It gives me a date, but I haven't the foggiest idea what the page will
>be about. And that's what all 400= pages of your News section are like!
BULLSHIT.
>SOUNDS LIKE AN AWFULLY DAFT WAY TO NAVIGATE!
What, putting descriptions by the links is awfully daft? Hmmm....
>No no no, I know exactly what will be on that page, what am I thinking,
>all thanks to that handy little explanation that pops up on my nav bar.
>Thank goodness, I didn't have to waste perecious seconds of my life to
>click on the page and see what's in it. Thank godness for that. Oh, wait
>a minute...
yep, wait a minute - we've put the descriptions on the actual web
pages next to the links!
So now you don't have to drag your mouse over to the link and look at
the nav bar, because we've saved that bother for you!
No, really, you're welcome...
>Oh well, so what if the EN News is 10000x harder to navigate than
>OPC...
Didn't you get taught the calendar at school then?
>at least every single page is chock full of useful
>information...oh, what's this...
>"Sorry, not a single scrap of news."
>Good thing so very few of the pages are like this. Oh, wait...
...On average, EN News is only 2 days a week like this.
There has NEVER been a Prodigy-related news service on the internet
that has put out more news than EN News.
There has NEVER been a Prodigy-related news service on the internet
more frequent than EN News.
Think back to the others. Tobi's list reached more people than EN,
yes, but it was never as frequent than EN. Sentinel's short lived
mailing list also tailed behind EN in the frequency stakes too.
>> But when you go to a site, and see before you things like "Advised",
>> "opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
>And then you look at the nav bar...whew!
Yeah, great. Let's drag the mouse to each link to see what's going on.
None of that pesky "display the description next to the link" business
here!
>> "I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
>Yeah, obviously.
A quote from a 'popular' regular's own website. Enjoy the irony.
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Peter Thomas
>>Does this make their views any less valid?
Why?
>>> and it seems that Paul gave me a good idea
>>Well, not just Paul. I have been trying to drop that massive hint to
>>you for some time now!
>No...
The blind man speaks.
>you've been whinging about OPC for a long time...
You've been whinging about EN for a long time, without a valid point.
Your excuse?
>>>- it was to put the sections into bigger categories.
>>I've got a sudden feeling of deja-vu here.
>Gameshowhost "spoof" your account again?
Who lost their account?
>>>>many of them not needed as some could quite easily fit into the more
>>>>important sections. Of course, this'll impress the easily-amused,
>>>8-D
>>Matthew Dallas loves your site...
>Peter Thomas (Im supposed to be proud for saying that? :-\) hates your
>site...
Yeah, a miserly 8 out of 10! Woah, don't get me in a really bad mood -
I could even put it down to 7.5 out of 10! That's pure hatred, that
is!
>>>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims is wrong.
>>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims are true.
>Why don't you show some proof that those claims are wrong?
Why don't you show some proof that those claims are true?
>>>>it proclaims, despite being smaller than EN.
>>>Not proven.
>>Count the content then.
>Done... OPC is bigger, busier and better...
How?
>>>>The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes.
>>>Really? Care to point out those mistakes?
>>"Remixed By Prodigy: Factory Girl"
>Thats a lyric?
No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
mistakes, remember?
>>"Benny Blanco (Voice by John Leguziamo in the film Carlito’s Way)
>>(Notes)
>>Hey, remember me? Benny Blanco from the Bronx?
>>What the fuck are you lookin at? (only the fake version contains this
>>line)
>Hows that wrong?
Why bother quoting the fake version?
>>"Unbelievable "
>Thats a lyric?
No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
mistakes, remember?
>>"Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed Brown
>>by
>>Prodigy fans. "
>How's that wrong?
Because it wasn't dubbed Brown by Prodigy fans.
>>"We’re going full throttle (Distorted)"
>How's that wrong?
Reversed.
>>"Speedway (Theme from Fastlane)
>Hows that wrong?
No lyrics in it.
>>"Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
>>vocals by Keith Flint) "
>Hows that wrong?
Only Sunrise Version has the Keith Flint vocals in it.
>>"We gonna rock, mutherfucker
>Hows that wrong?
If you quoted that without the snipping, I'd show you.
>>>Fairly good? Apart from Kotta's site (which is excellent), there's no
>>>other site whose discography comes close to it.
>>Why is linked really oddly?
>Why is you have trouble with English language?
Anyone can poke fun at typos, Slim Shaddy.
>>>How come you only point out the most basic sections that almost all
>>>sites have? There are tons you seem to be forgetting about, which give
>>>The Center its real value.
>>The humor section?
>Something that EN doesn't have...
Thankfully!
>>>They are probably only temporary, and I need some income from a site
>>>I've put enormous energy into.
>>I'm typing this after a 4 hours of work on EN, btw.
>In between e-mails to abuse@.coms?
Oh yeah, they take up all my time!
>>>It must be daft for those to whom "April 4" means more than
>>>"Discography"!
>>If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
>>April 4th, you know what's going on.
>You have no idea about the content...
...until you see the handy one-line descriptions next to the link.
>>But when you go to a site, and see before you things like "Advised",
>>"opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
>Thats why they have labeled mouseovers...
It would be easier and more convenient to have this on the actual
webpages instead.
>>>>A totally new design and organisation would bump my rating of
>>>Not totally new design, but this may help a lot navigate!
>>It's only slightly better. It still needs more of a change.
>Still better than EN...
<sniggers>
>>"I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
>Then why are you such a whining bitch?
Today's irony is brought to you by the letters M, D and the number 19.
Peter Thomas
>He changed the frame for you and EN's liking,
Has he? <checks OPC>
Nope, it's not changed for my liking at all.
>and you moan like a little bitch.
Tsk, yeah, silly me and my 8 out of 10 review. That's real bitching
going on there.
>Don't you have better things to do?
Well, yeah, making content for EN, which is what I do, along with
other EN members. Have you ever done that? :)
>> "I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
>It's a 311 lyric...
I know.
Sentinel
>Does this make their views any less valid?
No. It's just thought-provoking.
>Well, not just Paul. I have been trying to drop that massive hint
>to you for some time now!
No. What you told me was to change the left frame, and to incorporate
some sections into others (not group the headlines in the left frame in
categories)
>I've got a sudden feeling of deja-vu here.
Really?
>It's marginally better. Keeping the 11 'main' headers there would
>be better.
And then leaving only one titled 'Prodigy' would be the best?
>Well, one of the reasons I enter in the review dates on the
>links pages is so that we can go back to review when sites
>have considerably changed.
I see.
>Matthew Dallas loves your site...
And Jockey Ewing likes sluts, yes.
>>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims is wrong.
>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims are true.
You haven't proved that EN's claims are right.
I haven't proved that OPC's claims are right.
You haven't proved that OPC's claims are wrong.
I haven't proved that EN's claims are wrong.
That's a draw.
>>Not proven.
>Count the content then.
How can content be counted? (And before you bring up the number of
pages, let me remind you that ONE single A0 page can contain 6x as much
info as FIVE A5 pages.)
>>The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes.
>Really? Care to point out those mistakes?
<...> I'll have to check them out, haven't had enough time yet.
>>Fairly good? Apart from Kotta's site (which is excellent), there's
>no other site whose discography comes close to it.
>Why is linked really oddly?
???
>The humor section?
Even though you don't like it, it's a very popular section of my site.
And there are many others people love (not easily-amused-people, but
real Prodigy fans).
>I'm typing this after a 4 hours of work on EN, btw.
So?
>If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
>April 4th, you know what's going on.
Really?
>But when you go to a site, and see before you things like
>"Advised", "opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
You still don't get the meaning of "onmouseover()"?
>>Done! Thanks, actually this was a great idea!
>Um, one that has been going around for a while...
Not exactly.
>It's only slightly better. It still needs more of a change.
Jan 1, Jan 2...
Empyrean
Mike <MY_ADDY_...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:37A62E...@erols.com...
> > "I'm the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
I've always thought the line was:
"I'm the *PINT* you tasted, fell intoxicated."
Both EN and OPC say it's "pain," but I don't really think so...
Anyone else agree with me?
--
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Peter Thomas
>> > "I'm the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
>I've always thought the line was:
>"I'm the *PINT* you tasted, fell intoxicated."
<bangs head on desk>
Almost as stupid as the 'paint' suggestion.
>Both EN and OPC say it's "pain," but I don't really think so...
Silly EN... fancy using the official sheet music!
>Anyone else agree with me?
<sounds of tumbleweed blowing across newsgroup>
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Peter Thomas <see_m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Almost as stupid as the 'paint' suggestion.
Oh YEAH, sure. "Pint" and "intoxicated" make NOOOOO
sense whatsoever..... What the fuck are you on, anyways?
> >Both EN and OPC say it's "pain," but I don't really think so...
>
> Silly EN... fancy using the official sheet music!
Official sheet music?.... <sigh> I'm starting to agree with
DJ Swift's rather high opinion of you now.
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So how often do you taste pain?
Mike
>Does your opinion that they were "easily amused" make the views of the
>people who voted OPC superior to EN any less valid?
> I remember the things written by those who voted OPC superior to EN.
> One particular guy, with a seething hatred for EN, answered the
> question "What's the best thing about EN" with :
> "The links page, because it gets you out of there!!!!!"
> Now, this amused me, as at the time, we never had a links page! He
> obviously never looked at EN properly! The same goes for anti-EN
> stalwart Matthew 'DJ Swift' Dallas, who also gets his EN stories wrong
> with amazing regularity.
> So those are the kind of people who think OPC are superior. Fine by
> me!
So you're judging ALL the people who like OPC better based on those two.
That seems fair.
And you didn't answer the question.
> Why bother reporting the fake version?
So that fans can know what is they have if they somehow got hold of a
copy of it.
>> "We Eat Rhythm (Vocals by Maxim) "
>That was the live version...the vocals were by Maxim...
> Is this noted on there? Nope.
It's in the LIVE SECTION. THEREFORE IT IS LIVE.
>> "Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed Brown
>> by Prodigy fans. "
>What's wrong with that?
>It's bollocks, that's what.
I've never heard any different explanation; perhaps you would care to
offer an explanation instead of just sitting back and saying "uch that's
bollocks."
> Does anyone here honestly think it is "goose"? We covered this on the
> newsgroup last month, IIRC.
Did we? Who was involved then? I honestly don't remember.
> >> "Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
> >> vocals by Keith Flint) "
> >What's wrong with that?
>
> Keith Flint only appears on the Sunrise Version.
Which is the album version...and it is on the lyrics of the EXPERIENCE
ALBUM Page!!!
> Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
It has...original version by Front 242/Jesus Jones. It's on a PRODIGY
lyrics page because the band PRODIGY remixed those tracks. Why put up
the Dr. Dooom remix lyrics; that wasn't done by PRODIGY at all; there's
more of a connection with a track that PRODIGY remixed than a track that
LEEROY remixed. Why bother with that at all on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
> >No, the 20+ others.
> Mainly covered by other sites.
No other site has an Audio page that extensive.
No other site has a video page that extensive.
No other istes have a Humor Page that original.
No other sites have that many Tabs.
No other sites have a Buy Rarities section.
No other sites have a BPM list that extensive.
No other sites have such an informative Opposition section.
No other sites have that many lyrics.
No other sites have a polls section.
Very few sites have coverage on Castbreeder that extensive.
Very few sites have an Advised page that inclusive.
Very few other sites have that many interviews
Very few sites have a discography that inclusive.
Very few sites have Dirtchamber coverage that extensive.
Very few sites have a History that original or extensive.
Very few sites have that much computer stuff.
Very few sites have equipment lists that extensive.
Very few sites have coverage that extensive on Reading 98.
Very few sites have that many fan reviews.
Very few sites have stories pages.
The list goes on.
This is all in one place.
Run by one person.
This lack of respect is baffling.
>You want a cookie?
> No, recognition will be fine thanx.
We do recognize it. If you would only put your ego in check, there would
be no arguements. I know I wouldn't.
> Let's see shall we?
> <hops over to www.earthbound-network.com/p_index.html.
> Clicks NEWS.
> Clicks 1999.
> Clicks April.>
> Here's what I can see...
> Week 1 of April 1999
> Thu 01 Full details of Greek festival Rockwave with Prodigy
> headlining. Rare 1993 Liam DJ mix on EN Radio.
> Fri 02 Further details from Radio 1 and The Sun, about Liam's
> Gatecrasher DJ set for June - Leeds or Sheffield?
> Sat 03
>
> Week 2 of April 1999
> Sun 04
> Mon 05 URL of new EN site announced. Liam DJing in Ireland this week?
> Liam interviewed on XL website.
>
> So, nothing beside April 4th, whereas the 1st, 2nd and 5th do have
> some content mentioned.
>
> <clicks on the April 4th link>
>
> Now I see :
>
> SORRY!
> Not a single scrap of news related to Prodigy/Liam
> Howlett/Maxim/Longman/Janus Stark/Pitch Shifter was found by us
> today... or maybe we haven't written it yet? (check later!)
> Do take a look at another page!
>
> So, there you go. Just what we expected.
Ah okay. So therefore, when I look at the rest of April, which reads as
follows:
Tue 06
Wed 07
Thu 08
Fri 09
Sat 10
Sun 11
Mon 12
Tue 13
Wed 14
Thu 15
Fri 16
Sat 17
Sun 18
Mon 19
Tue 20
Wed 21
Thu 22
Fri 23
Sat 24
Sun 25
Mon 26
Tue 27
Wed 28
Thu 29
Fri 30
I shouldn't expect any news to be on those pages, by your own logic.
Out of curiosity, let's see what May has to offer:
Sat 01
Sun 02
Mon 03
Tue 04
Wed 05
Thu 06
Fri 07
Sat 08
Sun 09
Mon 10
Tue 11
Wed 12
Thu 13
Fri 14
Sat 15
Sun 16
Mon 17
Tue 18
Wed 19
Thu 20
Fri 21
Sat 22
Sun 23
Mon 24
Tue 25
Wed 26
Thu 27
Fri 28
Sat 29
Sun 30
Hmmm...must not be anything there either. What about June?
Tue 01
Wed 02
Thu 03
Fri 04
Sat 05
Sun 06
Mon 07
Tue 08
Wed 09
Thu 10
Fri 11
Sat 12
Sun 13
Mon 14
Tue 15
Wed 16
Thu 17
Fri 18
Sat 19
Sun 20
Mon 21
Tue 22
Wed 23
Thu 24
Fri 25
Sat 26
Sun 27
Mon 28
Tue 29
Wed 30
Oh, and let's not forget July!
Thu 01
Fri 02
Sat 03
Sun 04
Mon 05
Tue 06
Wed 07
etc.
Would you look at that. No news anywhere. But wait...I click on the
links, and there is news there after all! And I knew exactly what it was
going to be, thanks to all those handy one-line descriptions!
I don't enjoy this.
> So now you don't have to drag your mouse over to the link and look at
> the nav bar, because we've saved that bother for you!
What a horrific bother it was.
> There has NEVER been a Prodigy-related news service on the internet
> that has put out more news than EN News.
> There has NEVER been a Prodigy-related news service on the internet
> more frequent than EN News.
I respect what you do, but you criticize the content of OPC, and praise
the size of your own site. And yet so many of those pages have
absolutely nothing there!
> And that's what all 400= pages of your News section are like!
> BULLSHIT.
Yeah, alright.
> >I havew no clue,
> Don't we fucking know it.
I'm in pain.
DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>>Does your opinion that they were "easily amused" make the views of the
>>people who voted OPC superior to EN any less valid?
>I remember the things written by those who voted OPC superior to EN.
<SNIP>
Once again, "Peter Thomas" doesn't answer the question...
DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>>> > "I'm the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
>>I've always thought the line was:
>>"I'm the *PINT* you tasted, fell intoxicated."
><bangs head on desk>
Asshole... why must you be a DICK in every post?
DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>>>Does this make their views any less valid?
>>Yes...
>Why?
Because they kiss your ass...
>>>> and it seems that Paul gave me a good idea
>>>Well, not just Paul. I have been trying to drop that massive hint to
>>>you for some time now!
>>No...
>The blind man speaks.
Who?
>>you've been whinging about OPC for a long time...
>You've been whinging about EN
EN.com... get it right...
>for a long time, without a valid point.
And you've had a valid point whinging at OPC?
>Your excuse?
You first.
>>>>- it was to put the sections into bigger categories.
>>>I've got a sudden feeling of deja-vu here.
>>Gameshowhost "spoof" your account again?
>Who lost their account?
Not I...
>>Peter Thomas (Im supposed to be proud for saying that? :-\) hates your
>>site...
>Yeah, a miserly 8 out of 10! Woah, don't get me in a really bad mood -
>I could even put it down to 7.5 out of 10! That's pure hatred, that
>is!
8/10 with constant whinging about something as small and stupid as a
damn frame!
>>>>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims is wrong.
>>>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims are true.
>>Why don't you show some proof that those claims are wrong?
>Why don't you show some proof that those claims are true?
Why dont you show some proof that those claims are wrong?
>>>>>it proclaims, despite being smaller than EN.
>>>>Not proven.
>>>Count the content then.
>>Done... OPC is bigger, busier and better...
>How?
I counted...
>>>>>The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes.
>>>>Really? Care to point out those mistakes?
>>>"Remixed By Prodigy: Factory Girl"
>>Thats a lyric?
>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
>mistakes, remember?
You said "The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes." I
said "Care to point out those mistakes." "Remixed by Prodigy: Factory
Girl" is not a lyric...
>>>"Benny Blanco (Voice by John Leguziamo in the film Carlito’s Way)
>>>(Notes)
>>>Hey, remember me? Benny Blanco from the Bronx?
>>>What the fuck are you lookin at? (only the fake version contains this
>>>line)
>>Hows that wrong?
>Why bother quoting the fake version?
Why not? It still has a connection...
With your logic Kotta should take down his site...
>>>"Unbelievable "
>>Thats a lyric?
>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
>mistakes, remember?
On the lyrics page...
>>>"Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed Brown
>>>by
>>>Prodigy fans. "
>>How's that wrong?
>Because it wasn't dubbed Brown by Prodigy fans.
Geez... Get a life Petey...
>>>"We’re going full throttle (Distorted)"
>>How's that wrong?
>Reversed.
Reversing a sample is a way of distorting it from its original form...
oh do get a clue...
>>>"Speedway (Theme from Fastlane)
>>Hows that wrong?
>No lyrics in it.
No shit.
>>>"Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
>>>vocals by Keith Flint) "
>>Hows that wrong?
>Only Sunrise Version has the Keith Flint vocals in it.
Geez... Get a life Petey...
>>>"We gonna rock, mutherfucker
>>Hows that wrong?
>If you quoted that without the snipping, I'd show you.
Show me now.
>>>>Fairly good? Apart from Kotta's site (which is excellent), there's no
>>>>other site whose discography comes close to it.
>>>Why is linked really oddly?
>>Why is you have trouble with English language?
>Anyone can poke fun at typos, Slim Shaddy.
Sanjay misses you :(
>>>>How come you only point out the most basic sections that almost all
>>>>sites have? There are tons you seem to be forgetting about, which give
>>>>The Center its real value.
>>>The humor section?
>>Something that EN doesn't have...
>Thankfully!
I personaly love the "humor..." The letters between Liam and the
Beasties is daaaaaaamn funny...
>>>>They are probably only temporary, and I need some income from a site
>>>>I've put enormous energy into.
>>>I'm typing this after a 4 hours of work on EN, btw.
>>In between e-mails to abuse@.coms?
>Oh yeah, they take up all my time!
Thought so...
>>>>It must be daft for those to whom "April 4" means more than
>>>>"Discography"!
>>>If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
>>>April 4th, you know what's going on.
>>You have no idea about the content...
>...until you see the handy one-line descriptions next to the link.
Which you finally added...
>>>But when you go to a site, and see before you things like "Advised",
>>>"opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
>>Thats why they have labeled mouseovers...
>It would be easier and more convenient to have this on the actual
>webpages instead.
Umm... this is coming from the same man who bitched about not wanting
to load the webpage (which takes all of 10 seconds) to see what was on
the page? <Enter the mouseover>
>>>>>A totally new design and organisation would bump my rating of
>>>>Not totally new design, but this may help a lot navigate!
>>>It's only slightly better. It still needs more of a change.
>>Still better than EN...
><sniggers>
Its the truth... the NG has been surveyed...
>>>"I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
>>Then why are you such a whining bitch?
>Today's irony is brought to you by the letters M, D and the number 19.
Today's homosexuality is brought to you by the letters P, T and the
picture "Silver.jpg"
>"I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
"Smack the Ketchup"
Empyrean
DJ Swift <djs...@peter-thomas-eats-camel-ballz.com> wrote in message
news:37a7649c....@News.nfx.net...
> On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 20:02:43 GMT, see_m...@hotmail.com (Peter
> Thomas) wrote:
>
> >>> > "I'm the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
> >>"I'm the *PINT* you tasted, fell intoxicated."
> ><bangs head on desk>
>
> Asshole... why must you be a DICK in every post?
Maybe cuz his SHIT-FILLED ego won't let him admit that he might
be wrong about something....
Everlast
> >Both EN and OPC say it's "pain," but I don't really think so...
>
> Silly EN... fancy using the official sheet music!
Where can we get this official sheet music? Any online stores? You
have a scan of the cover?
Everlast
> >He changed the frame for you and EN's liking,
>
> Has he? <checks OPC>
> Nope, it's not changed for my liking at all.
You moaned, and moaned, and moaned, moaned over and over. He changed it
so it's more to your liking, but bitch bitch bitch. Would you like some
cheese with your whine?
> >and you moan like a little bitch.
>
> Tsk, yeah, silly me and my 8 out of 10 review. That's real bitching
> going on there.
No, you moaned in that post. And your links page rating system is
shoddy.
>
> >Don't you have better things to do?
>
> Well, yeah, making content for EN, which is what I do, along with
> other EN members. Have you ever done that? :)
I did, but you dismissed it. How about the web board, poll, news script
(all offered but turned down), layout, submitting the site to search
engines, etc. A lot of EN members still haven't done what I did while i
was there.
Peter Thomas
>> Almost as stupid as the 'paint' suggestion.
>Oh YEAH, sure. "Pint" and "intoxicated" make NOOOOO
>sense whatsoever..... What the fuck are you on, anyways?
Nothing, but you're obviously on that "pint".
>> >Both EN and OPC say it's "pain," but I don't really think so...
>> Silly EN... fancy using the official sheet music!
>Official sheet music?....
Yes, I have it here.
><sigh> I'm starting to agree with
>DJ Swift's rather high opinion of you now.
Go on, be a twat then.
I LIKE DJ SWIFT HATING ME. You think I'd want a goon like that
praising me?
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> > > "I'm the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
>
> I've always thought the line was:
>
> "I'm the *PINT* you tasted, fell intoxicated."
*grinning*
> Both EN and OPC say it's "pain," but I don't really think so...
> Anyone else agree with me?
I'm afraid I think it's 'pain', dear, but it SOUNDS one hell of
a lot more like 'pint' to me too - Keith does some interesting
things with vowels. ;-)
*grinning* That gets funnier each time I think of it, 'pint you
tasted' ... I should rewrite the lyrics around that ...
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Deb
> >"I'm the *PINT* you tasted, fell intoxicated."
>
> <bangs head on desk>
>
> Almost as stupid as the 'paint' suggestion.
No ... Keith's accent is downright baffling to a lot of
people outside the UK, especially when he's doing his
best to play it up. It DOES sound more like 'pint'
than 'pain' over here - I don't think those are the
actual words, but I can certainly see why he thought
so.
Not 'stupid' at all, just opting for what sounds more
logical.
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Deb
> > I'm afraid I think it's 'pain', dear, but it SOUNDS one hell of
> > a lot more like 'pint' to me
>
> Sorry, but peer pressure just isn't gonna cut it. I like 'pint' better,
> and I'm stickin' with it. :-P
Works for me. ;-)
> But if anyone here can actually _PROVE_ me wrong, then hey, I'll
> surrender. Until that evidence rolls in, though, I reckon I ain't goin'
> down without a fight. *loading shotgun*
Look out, Pa got into the moonshine agin .... ;-)
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Everlast
> > Go on, be a twat then.
>
>
> AT ANY RATE.... Have a wonderful time flaming your life
> away kid, cuz I ain't got the time for this immature shit.
>
> Try me again once you reach adulthood. :-)
He's 24... <laughs>
Empyrean
> "Empyrean" <empy...@home.com> wrote:
> ><sigh> I'm starting to agree with
> >DJ Swift's rather high opinion of you now.
>
Look who's talking, eh? =P
AT ANY RATE.... Have a wonderful time flaming your life
away kid, cuz I ain't got the time for this immature shit.
Try me again once you reach adulthood. :-)
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> I'm afraid I think it's 'pain', dear, but it SOUNDS one hell of
> a lot more like 'pint' to me
Sorry, but peer pressure just isn't gonna cut it. I like 'pint' better,
and I'm stickin' with it. :-P
But if anyone here can actually _PROVE_ me wrong, then hey, I'll
surrender. Until that evidence rolls in, though, I reckon I ain't goin'
down without a fight. *loading shotgun*
Sentinel
>>>"Remixed By Prodigy: Factory Girl"
>>Thats a lyric?
>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
>mistakes, remember?
Quote from the page: "(Original by The Rolling Stones; Remixed by
Maxim)" I consider Maxim (shock, horror!) to be a Prodigy member.
>>>"Unbelievable "
>>Thats a lyric?
>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point
>out the mistakes, remember?
Unbelievable??? Where's that listed?
>>>But when you go to a site, and see before you things like "Advised",
>>>"opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
>>Thats why they have labeled mouseovers...
>It would be easier and more convenient to have this on the actual
>webpages instead.
1) The onmouseovers are on the actual webpages.
2) Most webpages of OPC do contain a short description of what you find
on that page.
>>Still better than EN...
><sniggers>
<sniggers>
Sentinel
>I remember the things written by those who voted OPC superior to
>EN. One particular guy, with a seething hatred for EN, answered
>the question "What's the best thing about EN" with :
>"The links page, because it gets you out of there!!!!!"
There's this anti-feminist joke: (No offense Deb, it's just an example
:)
"Women have 2, and cows have 4, what's that?"
"IQ."
Now, the point is that it's a JOKE, and it is obvious that NO women have
an intelligence quotient of 2 (otherwise they would die), and probably
not even cows have an IQ of 4. MANY jokes are about things that DO NOT
exist in reality, and can ONLY be taken SERIOUSLY by "the
easily-amused". Don't know why I am explaining this, as you have shown
you have no sense of abstraction.
>Now, this amused me, as at the time, we never had a links page!
>He obviously never looked at EN properly! The same goes for anti-EN
>stalwart Matthew 'DJ Swift' Dallas, who also gets his EN stories wrong
>with amazing regularity.
You mean he gets wrong stories from EN? Does he get a different
newsletter, or do we too get false stories? Just interested...
>So those are the kind of people who think OPC are superior.
>Fine by me!
<Pete Mode>Stalin was a MAN! So those are the kind of people who make up
50% of the world's population! Fine by me!</Pete Mode>
>>What's wrong with that?
>Why bother reporting the fake version?
Why bothered reporting The Castbreeder then?
>>> "We Eat Rhythm (Vocals by Maxim) "
>>That was the live version...the vocals were by Maxim...
>Is this noted on there? Nope.
I thought my visitors are intelligent enough to realize that the Live
Lyrics section contains the lyrics of live songs (it seems I
overestimated you).
>>> "Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed
Brown
>>> by Prodigy fans. "
>>What's wrong with that?
>It's bollocks, that's what.
I remember when Liam was asked about the track called Brown, he didn't
know what they meant! Then who was it dubbed by?
>>> "Let's jet out, we'll goose at hyperspeed"
>>> "Goose here probably means to give a spurt of fuel to (a motor) to
>>> increase speed. If you disagree (that is, you think he says cruise
>>> instead of
>>> goose), please listen more closely, and you will hear it really is
>>> goose! "
>>What's wrong with that?
>LOL! Oh, per-leeeease.
Wanna join a club for illiterates? Please point me to a page on OPC that
has this text on it! Thanks!
>Does anyone here honestly think it is "goose"?
Yeah, who does?
>>> "Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
>>> vocals by Keith Flint) "
>>What's wrong with that?
>Keith Flint only appears on the Sunrise Version.
Oh, per-leeeease do take a look at the back of your Experience album and
then spend minutes wondering why I included the Sunrise version's lyrics
on the Experience page.
>>What's wrong with that?
>I'm curious as to why fucker becomes f***er later on.
Terrible mistake, I admit it.
>> "Religion
><SNIP>
>Those are the lyrics to the original Religion, it's right.
>Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
Quote from the top of the page: "This page contains the lyrics to songs
that have been remixed by the Prodigy."
Isn't that clear enough? It may seem strange to you, but people may be
interested in the whole lyrics, not the "shortened" versions.
>>You seem to think that many things are odd that not many others have
>>problems with...yet you think your site is comprehensive and
>>easier-to-navigate. That's hilarious. Someone should rate your site
>>following your own criteria.
>Fair enough, www.prodge.demon.co.uk IS inferior to OPC.
Don't bother, Mike, he'll never understand that you meant EN.
>>No, the 20+ others.
>Mainly covered by other sites.
8-D
>>SOUNDS LIKE AN AWFULLY DAFT WAY TO NAVIGATE!
>What, putting descriptions by the links is awfully daft? Hmmm....
1) Please tell me how long those descriptions have been there.
2) And what, putting descriptions in onmouseover tags is awfully daft?
Hmmm....
>So now you don't have to drag your mouse over to the link and look at
>the nav bar, because we've saved that bother for you!
People will bless your name for relieving them from this pain.
>>Oh well, so what if the EN News is 10000x harder to navigate than
>>OPC...
>Didn't you get taught the calendar at school then?
I'll make some sections labeled '1', '2', '3' etc. and ask the
complainers "Didn't you get taught the number system at school then?"
>There has NEVER been a Prodigy-related news service on the internet
>that has put out more news than EN News.
So?
>There has NEVER been a Prodigy-related news service on the internet
>more frequent than EN News.
So?
>Think back to the others. Tobi's list reached more people than EN,
>yes, but it was never as frequent than EN. Sentinel's short lived
>mailing list also tailed behind EN in the frequency stakes too.
I preferred making longer issues, instead of sending out many 2K-long
ones-.
>>And then you look at the nav bar...whew!
>Yeah, great. Let's drag the mouse to each link to see what's going on.
>None of that pesky "display the description next to the link" business
>here!
Yeah, great. Let's drag the mouse to EACH AND EVERY link to see what's
going on. Just to see what "Discography" means. To see that "Pictures"
means. To see what "Albums", "Humor", "Guitar Tabs", "Tour Dates" etc.
mean! Yes, you REALLY have to pull the mouse over ALL of them!
Peter Thomas
>> So those are the kind of people who think OPC are superior. Fine by
>> me!
>So you're judging ALL the people who like OPC better based on those two.
>That seems fair.
No, but I do think there's something wrong with their judgement.
>> Why bother reporting the fake version?
>So that fans can know what is they have if they somehow got hold of a
>copy of it.
Just mention the fake versions under the bootlegs section of your
disography - simple enough.
>> Is this noted on there? Nope.
>It's in the LIVE SECTION. THEREFORE IT IS LIVE.
It was taken from the lyrics page, Mike.
>>> "Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed Brown
>>> by Prodigy fans. "
>>What's wrong with that?
>>It's bollocks, that's what.
>I've never heard any different explanation; perhaps you would care to
>offer an explanation instead of just sitting back and saying "uch that's
>bollocks."
The title of the track was found on a set list written by the Prodigy.
Therefore it was dubbed 'Brown' by the Prodigy, and not by fans.
>> Does anyone here honestly think it is "goose"? We covered this on the
>> newsgroup last month, IIRC.
>Did we? Who was involved then?
Chris Brewer.
>I honestly don't remember.
Anyway, it's not "goose".
>> >> "Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
>> >> vocals by Keith Flint) "
>> >What's wrong with that?
>> Keith Flint only appears on the Sunrise Version.
>Which is the album version... and it is on the lyrics of the EXPERIENCE
>ALBUM Page!!!
Then give the title in full.
>> Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
>It has...original version by Front 242/Jesus Jones. It's on a PRODIGY
>lyrics page because the band PRODIGY remixed those tracks.
But those lyrics aren't fully in the Prodigy remix.
>Why put up
>the Dr. Dooom remix lyrics;
We haven't - yet.
>that wasn't done by PRODIGY at all; there's
>more of a connection with a track that PRODIGY remixed than a track that
>LEEROY remixed. Why bother with that at all on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
That's why we're starting a lyrics page for Longman/Leeroy.
>> >No, the 20+ others.
>> Mainly covered by other sites.
>No other site has an Audio page that extensive.
>No other site has a video page that extensive.
Does it still say "All the Prodigy videos"?
>No other istes have a Humor Page that original.
No other humor page is that unfunny.
>No other sites have that many Tabs.
>No other sites have a Buy Rarities section.
Have you got Neko on killfile?
>No other sites have a BPM list that extensive.
>No other sites have such an informative Opposition section.
>No other sites have that many lyrics.
And not many have that many errors.
>No other sites have a polls section.
>Very few sites have coverage on Castbreeder that extensive.
>Very few sites have an Advised page that inclusive.
>Very few other sites have that many interviews
>Very few sites have a discography that inclusive.
>Very few sites have Dirtchamber coverage that extensive.
Why is it not under the discography?
>Very few sites have a History that original or extensive.
>Very few sites have that much computer stuff.
>Very few sites have equipment lists that extensive.
>Very few sites have coverage that extensive on Reading 98.
I wouldn't accept that page if it were submitted to EN. Terrible
biased views from some Beasties fans. No balance shown there.
>Very few sites have that many fan reviews.
>Very few sites have stories pages.
>The list goes on.
>This is all in one place.
>Run by one person.
>This lack of respect is baffling.
8 out of 10. You've reacted as if I've given it 0 out of 10, plonked
it beneath "Back Underground" and
Those pages haven't been updated yet.
>Would you look at that. No news anywhere. But wait...I click on the
>links, and there is news there after all! And I knew exactly what it was
>going to be, thanks to all those handy one-line descriptions!
>I don't enjoy this.
Well, let's see OPC - they do it in a style where it's a page to a
month. And there's no descriptions at all. Not even on the nav bar.
>> So now you don't have to drag your mouse over to the link and look at
>> the nav bar, because we've saved that bother for you!
>What a horrific bother it was.
If it can be done easier, we'll get it done that way.
>> There has NEVER been a Prodigy-related news service on the internet
>> that has put out more news than EN News.
>> There has NEVER been a Prodigy-related news service on the internet
>> more frequent than EN News.
>I respect what you do, but you criticize the content of OPC,
...with an 8/10 review? Get real.
>and praise
>the size of your own site.
The Acid Prodigy Site is tiny by comparison, so I haven't praised the
size of it.
>> Don't we fucking know it.
>I'm in pain.
<Empyrean>
He said pint!
</Empyrean>
Peter Thomas
>>>Does your opinion that they were "easily amused" make the views of the
>>>people who voted OPC superior to EN any less valid?
>>I remember the things written by those who voted OPC superior to EN.
><SNIP>
>Once again, "Peter Thomas" doesn't answer the question...
Pretty obvious that I think that those people have clouded judgement.
As you're so fond for people to answer questions, I have a couple of
questions for you, Matthew. Here's the first one.
Do you agree with the following statement?
"It is wrong for Prodigy fans to write negative opinions about other
Prodigy fansites in public. Prodigy fansites have been put together as
a homage to the band by fans and should not be criticized. If a fan
hates a site, he or she should just not make any comment on it."
I await your yes/no answer.
Peter Thomas
>> >Both EN and OPC say it's "pain," but I don't really think so...
>> Silly EN... fancy using the official sheet music!
>Where can we get this official sheet music?
I got the scans from Tobi's PUA CD-roms.
>Any online stores?
I believe there's a URL somewhere in one of the pages.
>You have a scan of the cover?
Yes, I have actually.
Peter Thomas
>> >He changed the frame for you and EN's liking,
>> Has he? <checks OPC>
>> Nope, it's not changed for my liking at all.
>You moaned, and moaned, and moaned, moaned over and over.
Yeah, with a miserly 0 out of 10 review, wasn't it? Well, 1/10.
Erm...maybe 2/10... Hang on, maybe 3 or 4 out of ten. Was it 5? I'm
not sure now... could be 6? I'm not even sure on that. Maybe I gave it
7 out of ten, but you'd have to see the site for the true answer...
>He changed it so it's more to your liking,
Not very much.
>but bitch bitch bitch. Would you like some
>cheese with your whine?
Hey, is this Erik Westlund moaning about er, moaning?
Let's take a look at his e-mail of resignation from EN...
ROTLMAO!
...now that's how to whine!
>> >and you moan like a little bitch.
>> Tsk, yeah, silly me and my 8 out of 10 review. That's real bitching
>> going on there.
>No, you moaned in that post.
Seeing as you're against moaning/whinging in this group, you will of
course take issue up with other people here too, like DJ Swift, Mike,
etc? You know - just in the interests in balance. Otherwise, people
might start thinking you're a bitter loser with a long-standing petty
personal grudge against me.
>And your links page rating system is shoddy.
How so?
>> >Don't you have better things to do?
>> Well, yeah, making content for EN, which is what I do, along with
>> other EN members. Have you ever done that? :)
>I did, but you dismissed it. How about the web board,
No need for an online newsgroup replacement.
>poll,
I never dismissed this.
>news script
What was this?
>(all offered but turned down), layout,
You mean Abso flavour, which is still online at EN?
>submitting the site to search engines, etc.
It's been done.
Peter Thomas
>>>>Does this make their views any less valid?
>>>Yes...
>>Why?
>Because they kiss your ass...
Strange. They come up with those link reviews before seeing my own. If
you think EN is full of people who say nothing but "yes" to me, you
better think again.
>>>you've been whinging about OPC for a long time...
>>You've been whinging about EN
>EN.com... get it right...
We don't own or run EN.com - get it right :)
>>for a long time, without a valid point.
>And you've had a valid point whinging at OPC?
Yep.
>>Yeah, a miserly 8 out of 10! Woah, don't get me in a really bad mood -
>>I could even put it down to 7.5 out of 10! That's pure hatred, that
>>is!
>8/10 with constant whinging about something as small and stupid as a
>damn frame!
When it ruins the site, it should be noted. That's what I did.
>>>>>>it proclaims, despite being smaller than EN.
>>>>>Not proven.
>>>>Count the content then.
>>>Done... OPC is bigger, busier and better...
>>How?
>I counted...
What did you count?
>>>>>>The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes.
>>>>>Really? Care to point out those mistakes?
>>>>"Remixed By Prodigy: Factory Girl"
>>>Thats a lyric?
>>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
>>mistakes, remember?
>You said "The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes." I
>said "Care to point out those mistakes." "Remixed by Prodigy: Factory
>Girl" is not a lyric...
No, it's not. It's a mistake. You asked me to point out the
mistakes. There's one (among many others).
>>>>"Benny Blanco (Voice by John Leguziamo in the film Carlito’s Way)
>>>>(Notes)
>>>>Hey, remember me? Benny Blanco from the Bronx?
>>>>What the fuck are you lookin at? (only the fake version contains this
>>>>line)
>>>Hows that wrong?
>>Why bother quoting the fake version?
>Why not? It still has a connection...
Oh, I suppose we'd better cover fan-remixes too...
>>>>"Unbelievable "
>>>Thats a lyric?
>>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
>>mistakes, remember?
>On the lyrics page...
Yep, and that's a mistake.
>>>>"Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed Brown
>>>>by
>>>>Prodigy fans. "
>>>How's that wrong?
>>Because it wasn't dubbed Brown by Prodigy fans.
>Geez... Get a life Petey...
Damn, you found me out. When I made that remark, I had to cancel all
my informal and formal social appoints. It took so long.
>>>>"We’re going full throttle (Distorted)"
>>>How's that wrong?
>>Reversed.
>Reversing a sample is a way of distorting it from its original form...
Then the word "REVERSED" is needed.
>>>>"Speedway (Theme from Fastlane)
>>>Hows that wrong?
>>No lyrics in it.
>No shit.
Indeed.
>>>>"Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
>>>>vocals by Keith Flint) "
>>>Hows that wrong?
>>Only Sunrise Version has the Keith Flint vocals in it.
>Geez... Get a life Petey...
Is this what you're gonna say everytime I prove a point?
>>>>"We gonna rock, mutherfucker
>>>Hows that wrong?
>>If you quoted that without the snipping, I'd show you.
>Show me now.
First off, we see "mutherfucker", written uncensored. Then it's
"mutherf**ker". Why the censorship there? :-\
>>>>>How come you only point out the most basic sections that almost all
>>>>>sites have? There are tons you seem to be forgetting about, which give
>>>>>The Center its real value.
>>>>The humor section?
>>>Something that EN doesn't have...
>>Thankfully!
>I personaly love the "humor..." The letters between Liam and the
>Beasties is daaaaaaamn funny...
Yeah, we had that on EN News. Written by a Melody Maker journalist,
IIRC.
>>>>>It must be daft for those to whom "April 4" means more than
>>>>>"Discography"!
>>>>If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
>>>>April 4th, you know what's going on.
>>>You have no idea about the content...
>>...until you see the handy one-line descriptions next to the link.
>Which you finally added...
...over a period of 2 weeks before the EN relaunch on April 6th 1999.
So that was about 4 months ago.
>>It would be easier and more convenient to have this on the actual
>>webpages instead.
>Umm... this is coming from the same man who bitched about not wanting
>to load the webpage (which takes all of 10 seconds) to see what was on
>the page?
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>>>>A totally new design and organisation would bump my rating of
>>>>>Not totally new design, but this may help a lot navigate!
>>>>It's only slightly better. It still needs more of a change.
>>>Still better than EN...
>><sniggers>
>Its the truth... the NG has been surveyed...
...and a tiny handful preferred OPC, in a survey conducted by a troll.
>>>>"I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
>>>Then why are you such a whining bitch?
>>Today's irony is brought to you by the letters M, D and the number 19.
>Today's homosexuality is brought to you by the letters P, T and the
>picture "Silver.jpg"
<bigot mode>
Yeah, 'cos it's only poofs who wear dresses!
</bigot mode>
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>>Does this make their views any less valid?
Indeed. The views of the EN members on the links page offer more
realism than the usual "YOUR PAGE IS GRATE!!!!!!!! I LUV KEITH!!!!
MARRY MEE!!!!!!!!! PRODIGY R00LZ!!!" guestbook entry from
pre-pubescent schoolgirls.
>>Well, not just Paul. I have been trying to drop that massive hint
>>to you for some time now!
>No. What you told me was to change the left frame, and to incorporate
>some sections into others
ie, keeping it down to about 10-15 links...
>>It's marginally better. Keeping the 11 'main' headers there would
>>be better.
>And then leaving only one titled 'Prodigy' would be the best?
Of course not.
>>>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims is wrong.
>>I still haven't seen proof that any of those claims are true.
>You haven't proved that EN's claims are right.
>I haven't proved that OPC's claims are right.
>You haven't proved that OPC's claims are wrong.
>I haven't proved that EN's claims are wrong.
>That's a draw.
Looks like it'll be time for the obvious then.
>>>Not proven.
>>Count the content then.
>How can content be counted?
Bytes.
>(And before you bring up the number of
>pages, let me remind you that ONE single A0 page can contain 6x as much
>info as FIVE A5 pages.)
I know that.
>>>Fairly good? Apart from Kotta's site (which is excellent), there's
>>no other site whose discography comes close to it.
>>Why is linked really oddly?
>???
Typo! Should be : >>Why is it linked really oddly?
>>If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
>>April 4th, you know what's going on.
>Really?
Yeah, news for the 4th of April 1999 is in front of you, strangely
enough.
>>But when you go to a site, and see before you things like
>>"Advised", "opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
>You still don't get the meaning of "onmouseover()"?
I do, but why bother with it? It's not very helpful.
>>It's only slightly better. It still needs more of a change.
>Jan 1, Jan 2...
Well, to get there, you'd have clicked on NEWS, then 1999, then
January. If by then you haven't sussed out that the links are for news
pages for January 1999, seek medical help.
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>
> >Its the truth... the NG has been surveyed...
>
You haven't been here that long..it's happened. Feel free to contribute
your $.02, though. :)
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> Empyrean wrote:
> > > Go on, be a twat then.
> >
> > Look who's talking, eh? =P
> >
> > AT ANY RATE.... Have a wonderful time flaming your life
> > away kid, cuz I ain't got the time for this immature shit.
> >
> > Try me again once you reach adulthood. :-)
>
He still lives with his mum.
He enjoys wearing his girlfriends (ex girlfriend now, I wonder why?) clothes
and claims that it is normal.
Peter Thomas
>>I remember the things written by those who voted OPC superior to
>>EN. One particular guy, with a seething hatred for EN, answered
>>the question "What's the best thing about EN" with :
>>"The links page, because it gets you out of there!!!!!"
>There's this anti-feminist joke: (No offense Deb, it's just an example
>:)
>"Women have 2, and cows have 4, what's that?"
>"IQ."
>Now, the point is that it's a JOKE, and it is obvious that NO women have
>an intelligence quotient of 2 (otherwise they would die),
I wonder if anyone can explain how Matthew Dallas is enjoying oxygen
privileges then :)
>and probably
>not even cows have an IQ of 4. MANY jokes are about things that DO NOT
>exist in reality, and can ONLY be taken SERIOUSLY by "the
>easily-amused".
I knew it was a joke, but the way the guy wrote about EN looked like
he had never seen the site at all.
>>Now, this amused me, as at the time, we never had a links page!
>>He obviously never looked at EN properly! The same goes for anti-EN
>>stalwart Matthew 'DJ Swift' Dallas, who also gets his EN stories wrong
>>with amazing regularity.
>You mean he gets wrong stories from EN? Does he get a different
>newsletter, or do we too get false stories? Just interested...
I mean his own stories about EN. Don't know why I am explaining this,
as you have shown you have no sense of abstraction.
>>>What's wrong with that?
>>Why bother reporting the fake version?
>Why bothered reporting The Castbreeder then?
Now that would be called news...
>>>> "We Eat Rhythm (Vocals by Maxim) "
>>>That was the live version...the vocals were by Maxim...
>>Is this noted on there? Nope.
>I thought my visitors are intelligent enough to realize that the Live
>Lyrics section contains the lyrics of live songs (it seems I
>overestimated you).
Of course all live Prodigy songs have the same lyrics every time.
<cough>
Is there an entry for the studio version of We Eat Rhythm then?
>>>> "Let's jet out, we'll goose at hyperspeed"
>>>> "Goose here probably means to give a spurt of fuel to (a motor) to
>>>> increase speed. If you disagree (that is, you think he says cruise
>>>> instead of
>>>> goose), please listen more closely, and you will hear it really is
>>>> goose! "
>>>What's wrong with that?
>>LOL! Oh, per-leeeease.
>Wanna join a club for illiterates? Please point me to a page on OPC that
>has this text on it! Thanks!
Great, you've updated it!
>>Does anyone here honestly think it is "goose"?
>Yeah, who does?
You did.
>>>> "Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
>>>> vocals by Keith Flint) "
>>>What's wrong with that?
>>Keith Flint only appears on the Sunrise Version.
>Oh, per-leeeease do take a look at the back of your Experience album and
>then spend minutes wondering why I included the Sunrise version's lyrics
>on the Experience page.
Oh, per-leeeease do take a look at the back of your Fire single and
then spend minutes wondering why you didn't specify which version you
were using.
>>> "Religion
>><SNIP>
>>Those are the lyrics to the original Religion, it's right.
>>Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
>Quote from the top of the page: "This page contains the lyrics to songs
>that have been remixed by the Prodigy."
>Isn't that clear enough?
Depends what you're on about. The actual Prodigy's remix's lyrics or
the original song's lyrics. Now, *I* know you mean the latter, because
I recognise the lyrics myself. But not every fan does.
>It may seem strange to you, but people may be
>interested in the whole lyrics, not the "shortened" versions.
When EN comes to cover this, we'll make this clear for people what's
going on.
>>>You seem to think that many things are odd that not many others have
>>>problems with...yet you think your site is comprehensive and
>>>easier-to-navigate. That's hilarious. Someone should rate your site
>>>following your own criteria.
>>Fair enough, www.prodge.demon.co.uk IS inferior to OPC.
>Don't bother, Mike, he'll never understand that you meant EN.
If he means EN, he shouldn't use the "your site" crap when talking to
me.
>>>SOUNDS LIKE AN AWFULLY DAFT WAY TO NAVIGATE!
>>What, putting descriptions by the links is awfully daft? Hmmm....
>1) Please tell me how long those descriptions have been there.
Since April 6th 1999.
>2) And what, putting descriptions in onmouseover tags is awfully daft?
The sound of a first-time OPC user :
"What's this? <drags mouse> What's this? <drags mouse> What's this?
<drags mouse> What's this? <drags mouse> What's this? <drags mouse>
What's this? <drags mouse> What's this? <drags mouse>"
>>So now you don't have to drag your mouse over to the link and look at
>>the nav bar, because we've saved that bother for you!
>People will bless your name for relieving them from this pain.
<Empyrean>Pint, you fool!</Empyrean>
>>>Oh well, so what if the EN News is 10000x harder to navigate than
>>>OPC...
>>Didn't you get taught the calendar at school then?
>I'll make some sections labeled '1', '2', '3' etc. and ask the
>complainers "Didn't you get taught the number system at school then?"
So, where are you going store these numbers under then?
>>Think back to the others. Tobi's list reached more people than EN,
>>yes, but it was never as frequent than EN. Sentinel's short lived
>>mailing list also tailed behind EN in the frequency stakes too.
>I preferred making longer issues, instead of sending out many 2K-long
>ones-.
Fair enough for you, but I've always wanted the news as close to when
it happens.
>>>And then you look at the nav bar...whew!
>>Yeah, great. Let's drag the mouse to each link to see what's going on.
>>None of that pesky "display the description next to the link" business
>>here!
>Yeah, great. Let's drag the mouse to EACH AND EVERY link to see what's
>going on. Just to see what "Discography" means. To see that "Pictures"
>means. To see what "Albums", "Humor", "Guitar Tabs", "Tour Dates" etc.
>mean! Yes, you REALLY have to pull the mouse over ALL of them!
Not all of them, but for titles such as
Advised, Opposition, Stories, etc...
Peter Thomas
>> I'm afraid I think it's 'pain', dear, but it SOUNDS one hell of
>> a lot more like 'pint' to me
>Sorry, but peer pressure just isn't gonna cut it. I like 'pint' better,
>and I'm stickin' with it. :-P
Wu Tang Clan are developing their own computer game for the
Playstation. The title is "Taste The Pint".... um... or was it "Taste
The Pain"? (No prizes for guessing the right one of course)
>But if anyone here can actually _PROVE_ me wrong, then hey, I'll
>surrender. Until that evidence rolls in, though, I reckon I ain't goin'
>down without a fight. *loading shotgun*
This depends if I can be arsed to show you the scans of the Official
Sheet Music for FOTL. They're on a CD-R over to my right, but I never
thought I'd need to show anyone, as it's so obviously "pain" in that
lyric in question.
Peter Thomas
>>>>"Remixed By Prodigy: Factory Girl"
>>>Thats a lyric?
>>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
>>mistakes, remember?
>Quote from the page: "(Original by The Rolling Stones; Remixed by
>Maxim)" I consider Maxim (shock, horror!) to be a Prodigy member.
In that case, I can't wait for the new Prodigy single out on Monday.
>>>>"Unbelievable "
>>>Thats a lyric?
>>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point
>>out the mistakes, remember?
>Unbelievable??? Where's that listed?
It was listed. If you've taken it down now, good!
>>>>But when you go to a site, and see before you things like "Advised",
>>>>"opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
>>>Thats why they have labeled mouseovers...
>>It would be easier and more convenient to have this on the actual
>>webpages instead.
>1) The onmouseovers are on the actual webpages.
<sighs>... Yeah, embedded in HTML code that you don't see if you're
using a normal web browser in the normal fashion until you run your
mouse over a particular header.
Everlast
> >>>Not proven.
> >>Count the content then.
> >How can content be counted?
>
> Bytes.
Errrrr. Wrong.
Try this sentinel:
Take all the images on your site. Save them without any image reduction
size, making simple images nearly 50-200 kilobytes. There, now you have
more content.
Sorry pete, wrong again.
> >>But when you go to a site, and see before you things like
> >>"Advised", "opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
> >You still don't get the meaning of "onmouseover()"?
>
> I do, but why bother with it? It's not very helpful.
Pete: "Wah wah wah, cry cry cry... I don't know what's in
'opposition'"
Sentinel: "read the onmouse over text, it tells you what is there...
see?"
Pete: "it's not very helpful"
even though it tells you what's there, it's not helpful. lol.
Everlast
> >>>>"I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
> >>>Then why are you such a whining bitch?
> >>Today's irony is brought to you by the letters M, D and the number 19.
> >Today's homosexuality is brought to you by the letters P, T and the
> >picture "Silver.jpg"
>
> <bigot mode>
> Yeah, 'cos it's only poofs who wear dresses!
> </bigot mode>
No, it's only women who wear dresses. That's why they are bought in
women's clothing stores. If they wanted men wearing them, they'd sell
them in a men's clothing store.
Everlast
> >You have a scan of the cover?
>
> Yes, I have actually.
Show us, if you would.
Song To The Siren
>>> a lot more like 'pint' to me
>>Sorry, but peer pressure just isn't gonna cut it. I like 'pint' better,
>>and I'm stickin' with it. :-P
>
>Wu Tang Clan are developing their own computer game for the
>Playstation. The title is "Taste The Pint".... um... or was it "Taste
>The Pain"? (No prizes for guessing the right one of course)
>
>
What kind of game would they make?? (Prob fighting.) I would love to hear the
music that is on the game..
========
"All Prodigy music is raw, and that will never change, the production is
raw, the sounds are dirty, you can’t get away from that.
Take it or leave it." Liam Howlett
DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>>>>Does your opinion that they were "easily amused" make the views of the
>>>>people who voted OPC superior to EN any less valid?
>>>I remember the things written by those who voted OPC superior to EN.
>><SNIP>
>>Once again, "Peter Thomas" doesn't answer the question...
>Pretty obvious that I think that those people have clouded judgement.
Why? Because they dont like you? Thats pretty bigheaded of you,
gimpy...
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Next time PT quotes somebody, e-mail demon about copyright infringment.
Peter Thomas
>He still lives with his mum.
So do you. Your point?
(BTW, Keith Flint lived with his parents up to 1996.)
>He enjoys wearing his girlfriends (ex girlfriend now, I wonder why?) clothes
"enjoys" - that's quite questionable. I was dressed like a 13 year old
tart, and I wouldn't dream of venturing out in public like that,
especially in the town I live in! Mind you, the tights were quite
comfy... :)
>and claims that it is normal.
Have never heard of a bloke in women's clothes then? I thought that
was quite usual in your town (seriously - no personal disrespect meant
there - just my own observation). Do you get out much?
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DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>you think EN is full of people who say nothing but "yes" to me, you
>better think again.
If they dont say yes, you threaten to quit.
>>>>you've been whinging about OPC for a long time...
>>>You've been whinging about EN
>>EN.com... get it right...
>We don't own or run EN.com - get it right :)
Get a life Petey...
>>>for a long time, without a valid point.
>>And you've had a valid point whinging at OPC?
>Yep.
Nope.
>>8/10 with constant whinging about something as small and stupid as a
>>damn frame!
>When it ruins the site, it should be noted. That's what I did.
If it "ruined the site" why give it an 8/10?
>>>>>>>it proclaims, despite being smaller than EN.
>>>>>>Not proven.
>>>>>Count the content then.
>>>>Done... OPC is bigger, busier and better...
>>>How?
>>I counted...
>What did you count?
OPC vs. EN
>>>>>>>The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes.
>>>>>>Really? Care to point out those mistakes?
>>>>>"Remixed By Prodigy: Factory Girl"
>>>>Thats a lyric?
>>>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
>>>mistakes, remember?
>>You said "The lyrics pages are dogged down by some poor mistakes." I
>>said "Care to point out those mistakes." "Remixed by Prodigy: Factory
>>Girl" is not a lyric...
>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You asked me to point out the
>mistakes. There's one (among many others).
I asked to point out mistakes in the lyrics... "Remixed by Prodigy:
Factory Girl" is not a lyric...
>>>>>"Benny Blanco (Voice by John Leguziamo in the film Carlito’s Way)
>>>>>(Notes)
>>>>>Hey, remember me? Benny Blanco from the Bronx?
>>>>>What the fuck are you lookin at? (only the fake version contains this
>>>>>line)
>>>>Hows that wrong?
>>>Why bother quoting the fake version?
>>Why not? It still has a connection...
>Oh, I suppose we'd better cover fan-remixes too...
Why did EN cover Castbreeder?
>>>>>"Unbelievable "
>>>>Thats a lyric?
>>>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
>>>mistakes, remember?
>>On the lyrics page...
>Yep, and that's a mistake.
But its not a lyric...
>>>>>"We’re going full throttle (Distorted)"
>>>>How's that wrong?
>>>Reversed.
>>Reversing a sample is a way of distorting it from its original form...
>Then the word "REVERSED" is needed.
IYWO... If it was your site, then you can put "REVERSED..." But its
not...
>>>>>"Speedway (Theme from Fastlane)
>>>>Hows that wrong?
>>>No lyrics in it.
>>No shit.
>Indeed.
?
>>>>>"Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
>>>>>vocals by Keith Flint) "
>>>>Hows that wrong?
>>>Only Sunrise Version has the Keith Flint vocals in it.
>>Geez... Get a life Petey...
>Is this what you're gonna say everytime I prove a point?
Its what I'm gonna say everytime you point out the most worthless
bullshit... "IT WASNT DUBBED BY PRODIGY FANS!!!! DAMN YOU TO
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLL!"
>>>>>"We gonna rock, mutherfucker
>>>>Hows that wrong?
>>>If you quoted that without the snipping, I'd show you.
>>Show me now.
>First off, we see "mutherfucker", written uncensored. Then it's
>"mutherf**ker". Why the censorship there? :-\
Why not? Are you really gonna call a lyric wrong because he censored
it? Get a life Petey... Its not your site, if it was... then dont put
the censorship there...
>>>>>>How come you only point out the most basic sections that almost all
>>>>>>sites have? There are tons you seem to be forgetting about, which give
>>>>>>The Center its real value.
>>>>>The humor section?
>>>>Something that EN doesn't have...
>>>Thankfully!
>>I personaly love the "humor..." The letters between Liam and the
>>Beasties is daaaaaaamn funny...
>Yeah, we had that on EN News. Written by a Melody Maker journalist,
>IIRC.
So... EN readers are now easily amused?
>>>>>>It must be daft for those to whom "April 4" means more than
>>>>>>"Discography"!
>>>>>If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
>>>>>April 4th, you know what's going on.
>>>>You have no idea about the content...
>>>...until you see the handy one-line descriptions next to the link.
>>Which you finally added...
>...over a period of 2 weeks before the EN relaunch on April 6th 1999.
>So that was about 4 months ago.
Relaunch? Just call it what it is... an update... Geeeeeeez... and
since it was "April 6th 1999" is wasn't always there even before
EN.com went up, like you claimed...
>>>>>>>A totally new design and organisation would bump my rating of
>>>>>>Not totally new design, but this may help a lot navigate!
>>>>>It's only slightly better. It still needs more of a change.
>>>>Still better than EN...
>>><sniggers>
>>Its the truth... the NG has been surveyed...
>...and a tiny handful preferred OPC, in a survey conducted by a troll.
The NG has been surveyed...
>>Today's homosexuality is brought to you by the letters P, T and the
>>picture "Silver.jpg"
><bigot mode>
>Yeah, 'cos it's only poofs who wear dresses!
></bigot mode>
UUuuuuuummmmm... yup! And only poofs put it up on the internet and
give people the link to it!
Mike
> women's clothing stores. If they wanted men wearing them, they'd sell
> them in a men's clothing store.
Never gone to see Rocky Horror Pictureshow, I see.
Shoot, never even been to a local nightclub, I see. ;D
DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>Have never heard of a bloke in women's clothes then?
Yeah... they're called Transvestites, Petey... Transvestites...
Peter Thomas
>> >You have a scan of the cover?
>> Yes, I have actually.
>Show us, if you would.
Certainly!
A few certain scans have been uploaded over to this URL :
http://enetwork.future.easyspace.com/files/songbook/
I do hope this clears up the situation somewhat. I'll be off, tasting
my "pint" now.
Peter Thomas
>>>Sorry, but peer pressure just isn't gonna cut it. I like 'pint' better,
>>>and I'm stickin' with it. :-P
>>Wu Tang Clan are developing their own computer game for the
>>Playstation. The title is "Taste The Pint".... um... or was it "Taste
>>The Pain"? (No prizes for guessing the right one of course)
>What kind of game would they make?? (Prob fighting.)
Hey, don't be so quick to assume it's "Taste The Pain"! After all, it
could be "Taste The Pint", a new cutting edge game where you stay in
the pub after hours, downing Guiness to look really hard, but avoiding
the wussy alcopops which turn you into A Big Girl's Blouse!
>I would love to hear the music that is on the game..
<waving that off-to-on-topic wand> It's about time Liam wrote some
music for a computer game...
Peter Thomas
>> >Today's homosexuality is brought to you by the letters P, T and the
>> >picture "Silver.jpg"
>> <bigot mode>
>> Yeah, 'cos it's only poofs who wear dresses!
>> </bigot mode>
>No, it's only women who wear dresses.
Oh, so not druids, popes, actors, transvestites,
people-having-a-laugh, etc, then? (And of course, not forgetting
"poofs".)
Someone send this guy an air ticket to Ibiza.
>That's why they are bought in women's clothing stores.
http://www.transformations.co.uk (*)
I think that proves you wrong. (Fuck knows where the Prodigy order
their skirts from tho!)
>If they wanted men wearing them, they'd sell
>them in a men's clothing store.
Get thee to a theatrical costumiers.
(* = And before anyone asks - a girl obsessed with drag-queens sent
that link to me on IRC!)
DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>Hey, don't be so quick to assume it's "Taste The Pain"! After all, it
>could be "Taste The Pint", a new cutting edge game where you stay in
>the pub after hours, downing Guiness to look really hard, but avoiding
>the wussy alcopops which turn you into A Big Girl's Blouse!
Answer his question...
>>I would love to hear the music that is on the game..
><waving that off-to-on-topic wand> It's about time Liam wrote some
>music for a computer game...
Wipeout XL
Peter Thomas
>> >>Count the content then.
>> >How can content be counted?
>> Bytes.
>Errrrr. Wrong.
Why is it wrong? And what is your answer for it?
>Try this sentinel:
>Take all the images on your site. Save them without any image reduction
>size, making simple images nearly 50-200 kilobytes. There, now you have
>more content.
>Sorry pete, wrong again.
Now, if we were to download every publically available file (html,
jpg, gif, zip, whatever) stored internally on each website...
>> >You still don't get the meaning of "onmouseover()"?
>> I do, but why bother with it? It's not very helpful.
>Sentinel: "read the onmouse over text, it tells you what is there...
>see?"
>Pete: "it's not very helpful"
>even though it tells you what's there, it's not helpful. lol.
Duh! It would be MORE helpful to have the description next to the
link.
Peter Thomas
>Yeah... they're called Transvestites, Petey... Transvestites...
Are you trying to tell me that ALL blokes who have worn women's
clothes are transvestites?
(In which case, you and me both listen to a 75% transvestite band.)
Peter Thomas
>> No, it's only women who wear dresses. That's why they are bought in
>> women's clothing stores. If they wanted men wearing them, they'd sell
>> them in a men's clothing store.
>Shoot, never even been to a local nightclub, I see. ;D
And he says I'm the one with no life :)
Peter Thomas
>>better think again.
>If they dont say yes, you threaten to quit.
More stupid conclusions.
>>>>>you've been whinging about OPC for a long time...
>>>>You've been whinging about EN
>>>EN.com... get it right...
>>We don't own or run EN.com - get it right :)
>Get a life Petey...
You say this every time I prove you wrong.
>>>8/10 with constant whinging about something as small and stupid as a
>>>damn frame!
>>When it ruins the site, it should be noted. That's what I did.
>If it "ruined the site" why give it an 8/10?
Er, It would have got 9 or 9.5.
>>>I counted...
>>What did you count?
>OPC vs. EN
Yeah, WHAT EXACTLY did you cound?
>>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You asked me to point out the
>>mistakes. There's one (among many others).
>I asked to point out mistakes in the lyrics... "Remixed by Prodigy:
>Factory Girl" is not a lyric...
It's a mistake in the lyrics page.
>>>Why not? It still has a connection...
>>Oh, I suppose we'd better cover fan-remixes too...
>Why did EN cover Castbreeder?
In the news section? Because it was news, duh...
>>>>>>"Unbelievable "
>>>>>Thats a lyric?
>>>>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
>>>>mistakes, remember?
>>>On the lyrics page...
>>Yep, and that's a mistake.
>But its not a lyric...
No shit, Sherlock.
>>First off, we see "mutherfucker", written uncensored. Then it's
>>"mutherf**ker". Why the censorship there? :-\
>Why not?
Lack of consistency.
>Are you really gonna call a lyric wrong because he censored
>it?
Not a wrong lyric, but why do that? He even admitted it was wrong.
>Get a life Petey...
We know what this means.
>Its not your site,
Thanx for that insight.
>>>Beasties is daaaaaaamn funny...
>>Yeah, we had that on EN News. Written by a Melody Maker journalist,
>>IIRC.
>So... EN readers are now easily amused?
If they found it absolutely hilarious, then yeah.
>>>Which you finally added...
>>...over a period of 2 weeks before the EN relaunch on April 6th 1999.
>>So that was about 4 months ago.
>Relaunch? Just call it what it is... an update... Geeeeeeez... and
>since it was "April 6th 1999" is wasn't always there even before
>EN.com went up, like you claimed...
It's been there since April 6th 1999. End of story.
>>>Its the truth... the NG has been surveyed...
>>...and a tiny handful preferred OPC, in a survey conducted by a troll.
>The NG has been surveyed...
The NG didn't fully reply back.
>>>Today's homosexuality is brought to you by the letters P, T and the
>>>picture "Silver.jpg"
>><bigot mode>
>>Yeah, 'cos it's only poofs who wear dresses!
>></bigot mode>
>UUuuuuuummmmm... yup!
I really would like to see you say that to some certain people I know
in real life.
DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>>>Have never heard of a bloke in women's clothes then?
>>Yeah... they're called Transvestites, Petey... Transvestites...
>Are you trying to tell me that ALL blokes who have worn women's
>clothes are transvestites?
No... I'm calling you a transvestite...
DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>>>you think EN is full of people who say nothing but "yes" to me, you
>>>better think again.
>>If they dont say yes, you threaten to quit.
>More stupid conclusions.
ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT!
>>>>>>you've been whinging about OPC for a long time...
>>>>>You've been whinging about EN
>>>>EN.com... get it right...
>>>We don't own or run EN.com - get it right :)
>>Get a life Petey...
>You say this every time I prove you wrong.
I say that every time you make some stupid remark like "It wasn't
dubbed by Prodigy fans..."
>>>>8/10 with constant whinging about something as small and stupid as a
>>>>damn frame!
>>>When it ruins the site, it should be noted. That's what I did.
>>If it "ruined the site" why give it an 8/10?
>Er, It would have got 9 or 9.5.
So subtract a whole 1.5 point because of a silly frame? Oh
peeeer-wheeese...
>>>>I counted...
>>>What did you count?
>>OPC vs. EN
>Yeah, WHAT EXACTLY did you cound?
How does one cound?
>>>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You asked me to point out the
>>>mistakes. There's one (among many others).
>>I asked to point out mistakes in the lyrics... "Remixed by Prodigy:
>>Factory Girl" is not a lyric...
>It's a mistake in the lyrics page.
But its not a lyric... You agreed to show me mistakes in the lyrics...
>>>>Why not? It still has a connection...
>>>Oh, I suppose we'd better cover fan-remixes too...
>>Why did EN cover Castbreeder?
>In the news section? Because it was news, duh...
BUT IT WAS FAKE!! WHY BOTHER REPORTING ON IT?!?!?!? </PT Mode>
>>>>>>>"Unbelievable "
>>>>>>Thats a lyric?
>>>>>No, it's not. It's a mistake. You did ask me to point out the
>>>>>mistakes, remember?
>>>>On the lyrics page...
>>>Yep, and that's a mistake.
>>But its not a lyric...
>No shit, Sherlock.
You just proved yourself wrong... AYE THANK YOU!
>>>First off, we see "mutherfucker", written uncensored. Then it's
>>>"mutherf**ker". Why the censorship there? :-\
>>Why not?
>Lack of consistency.
So?
>>>Yeah, we had that on EN News. Written by a Melody Maker journalist,
>>>IIRC.
>>So... EN readers are now easily amused?
>If they found it absolutely hilarious, then yeah.
Man... dissing the same people that support you now... what a shame...
>>>...over a period of 2 weeks before the EN relaunch on April 6th 1999.
>>>So that was about 4 months ago.
>>Relaunch? Just call it what it is... an update... Geeeeeeez... and
>>since it was "April 6th 1999" is wasn't always there even before
>>EN.com went up, like you claimed...
>It's been there since April 6th 1999. End of story.
But it hasn't since EN.com went up... which was what you claimed. End
of story.
>>>>Its the truth... the NG has been surveyed...
>>>...and a tiny handful preferred OPC, in a survey conducted by a troll.
>>The NG has been surveyed...
>The NG didn't fully reply back.
Never-the-less... the NG has been surveyed...
>>><bigot mode>
>>>Yeah, 'cos it's only poofs who wear dresses!
>>></bigot mode>
>>UUuuuuuummmmm... yup!
>I really would like to see you say that to some certain people I know
>in real life.
Your boyfriend?
Deb
> There's this anti-feminist joke: (No offense Deb, it's just an example
> :)
> "Women have 2, and cows have 4, what's that?"
> "IQ."
None taken, thanks for checking. :-)
---
Deb
Love your enemies just in case your friends turn
out to be a bunch of bastards. - R.A. Dickson
deb at radiant dot net
Deb
These are supposed to be 'official' lyrics, are they?
Not to argue, I'm just checking ... the incredible number
of typos and spelling mistakes lead me to believe this
is a tad dodgy.
"I've got a bad attidude"?
You 'red to my face'???
I'd like to know where Tobi got these 'official' lyrics from,
because this is about as official as Italian 'Music 4 the
Voodoo People' book.
Not picking on you for this, Peter, as you didn't write
the book this is from, but ... no, sorry, this is very far
indeed from being 'official sheet music' or anything
approaching it.
---
Deb
Tell your little voices to SHUT UP! I can't hear mine...
Mike
> >You 'red to my face'???
>
> BWAHAHAHAHA... a real official book would check shit like that... as
> well as...
>
> Thats SOME funky shit?
> The cosmic BOSS?
> And the line in Fuel my Fire that is "missing" (after 'Yeah my Layers
> are thick...') should contain "Yeah that knife in my back has
> fingerprints that belong to you..." But, where'd it go?
The self-inflicted PUNK detanator???
Listen to the Empirion mix, there is NO denying that line. These other
points are good too..."official sheet music" my ass.
'Emploit the point'
EMPLOIT????
'Channels repeat complete/can't complete'
???
'I pull up on your energy day'
Noooo.
'Given astrology'
GIVEN?
'That's SOME funky shit?'
The clearest sample on the whole friggin' CD! Taken from a famous
Beastie Boys track! They would have gotten that one right for sure!!!
The list goes on and on and on....how could you guys at EN be taken in
by something so blatantly and laughably wrong!
Sheesh...
Everlast
> >> No, it's only women who wear dresses. That's why they are bought in
> >> women's clothing stores. If they wanted men wearing them, they'd sell
> >> them in a men's clothing store.
> >Shoot, never even been to a local nightclub, I see. ;D
>
> And he says I'm the one with no life :)
Tell me a 14-15 year old who goes to night clubs. Sure, I could go to
some underage club, but it's shit. They play shit music like out of
sync and the backstreet boys. I'll save my money, or go some where else
:-)
Everlast
> >Get a life Petey...
>
> We know what this means.
Who's this we you are talking about?
Everlast
>
> Everlast <er...@abso.netNOSPAM> wrote:
>
> >> >>Count the content then.
> >> >How can content be counted?
> >> Bytes.
> >Errrrr. Wrong.
>
> Why is it wrong? And what is your answer for it?
BYTES DOES NOT EQUAL CONTENT! Bytes can add up from poor imaging and
HTML coding. Or just a big layout which has more HTML. But you can NOT
measure content in bytes, as it is variable.
Quality, not Quantity.
>> >Try this sentinel:
> >Take all the images on your site. Save them without any image reduction
> >size, making simple images nearly 50-200 kilobytes. There, now you have
> >more content.
> >Sorry pete, wrong again.
>
> Now, if we were to download every publically available file (html,
> jpg, gif, zip, whatever) stored internally on each website...
And? Yah, you'd have the same stuff, just extra bytes and wasted time.
> >> >You still don't get the meaning of "onmouseover()"?
> >> I do, but why bother with it? It's not very helpful.
> >Sentinel: "read the onmouse over text, it tells you what is there...
> >see?"
> >Pete: "it's not very helpful"
> >even though it tells you what's there, it's not helpful. lol.
>
> Duh! It would be MORE helpful to have the description next to the
> link.
Try the alt text. That's even "on" the image. And don't give me this
"browsers don't support it" stuff, because even Lynx does, and it
doesn't support images!
DJ Swift
>"I've got a bad attidude"?
>You 'red to my face'???
Filth INFACTUATED on one page... Filth INFATUATED on the other?
BWAHAHAHAHA... a real official book would check shit like that... as
well as...
Thats SOME funky shit?
The cosmic BOSS?
And the line in Fuel my Fire that is "missing" (after 'Yeah my Layers
are thick...') should contain "Yeah that knife in my back has
fingerprints that belong to you..." But, where'd it go?
Real official... NARF!
KoLLiDe
Peter Thomas <see_m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:933705849.29157.0...@news.demon.co.uk...
> Mike <MY_ADDY_...@erols.com> wrote:
>
> >> >I've read the reviews of the Online Prodigy Center on EN (it's strange
> >> >that the only people who have complained about the left frame have
been
> >> >EN members),
>
> >I agree.
>
> >> Does this make their views any less valid?
> >Does your opinion that they were "easily amused" make the views of the
> >people who voted OPC superior to EN any less valid?
>
> I remember the things written by those who voted OPC superior to EN.
> question "What's the best thing about EN" with :
>
> "The links page, because it gets you out of there!!!!!"
>
> Now, this amused me, as at the time, we never had a links page! He
> obviously never looked at EN properly! The same goes for anti-EN
> stalwart Matthew 'DJ Swift' Dallas, who also gets his EN stories wrong
> with amazing regularity.
>
> So those are the kind of people who think OPC are superior. Fine by
> me!
god your thick!
>
> >> "Benny Blanco (Voice by John Leguziamo in the film Carlito's Way)
> >> (Notes)
> >> Hey, remember me? Benny Blanco from the Bronx?
> >> What the fuck are you lookin at? (only the fake version contains this
> >> line)
> >What's wrong with that?
>
> Why bother reporting the fake version?
Thats why EN is shit because you say things like that
its some EXTRA info that someone may not know.
it can be helpful.
>
> >> Everytime we play, we are the ruffest, we are the ruffest - see!
> >> All together, all together, all together, all together"
> >> "We Eat Rhythm (Vocals by Maxim) "
> >That was the live version...the vocals were by Maxim...
>
> Is this noted on there? Nope.
>
> >> "Brown: The real title of this track is unknown, and was dubbed Brown
> >> by Prodigy fans. "
> >What's wrong with that?
>
> It's bollocks, that's what.
>
> >> "I'm the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
> >What's wrong with that?
>
> It's wrong.
makes more sense than fell intoxicated or whatever the shit is thats on en
>
> >> "We're going full throttle (Distorted)"
> >What's wrong with that?
>
> "(Reversed)" would be more appropriate.
did you have to nit pick about stupid little mistakes??
>
> >> "Speedway (Theme from Fastlane)
> >> Fly away, fly away... "
> >Yeah...what the hell is that??
>
> Beats me.
>
> >> "Go around, go around
> >> Wind it up, go around "
> >????
> >Where did you pull this from.
>
> OPC's lyrics page, funnily enough.
>
> >> "Let's jet out, we'll goose at hyperspeed"
> >> "Goose here probably means to give a spurt of fuel to (a motor) to
> >> increase speed. If you disagree (that is, you think he says cruise
> >> instead of
> >> goose), please listen more closely, and you will hear it really is
> >> goose! "
> >What's wrong with that?
>
> LOL! Oh, per-leeeease.
can you prove that its wrong?
>
> Does anyone here honestly think it is "goose"? We covered this on the
> newsgroup last month, IIRC.
who cares thats what he hears thats what he puts on his page
think of it this way the online prodigy center is made by one person
the EN website is made by 10 or somethin, he hasnt really got anyone to ok
it with.
>
> >> "Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
> >> vocals by Keith Flint) "
> >What's wrong with that?
>
> Keith Flint only appears on the Sunrise Version.
point?
>
> >> "We gonna rock, mutherfucker
> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, motherf***er "
> >What's wrong with that?
>
> I'm curious as to why fucker becomes f***er later on.
its not a mistake though is it??
>
> >> "Religion
> ><SNIP>
> >Those are the lyrics to the original Religion, it's right.
>
> Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
to inform prodigy fans on prodigy related things.
>
> >> "Zeroes And Ones
> >> (Original by Jesus Jones; Remixed by Liam)
> >Those are the lyrcs to the original as well...also correct.
>
> Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
does it really matter?
its still right.
its extra info.
>
> >> "Made In Two Minutes
> >> (Original by Bug Kann & The Plastic Jam; Remixed by Liam)
> >What's wrong with that?
>
> No notification of what version he is quoting from.
not a mistake though
>
> >> >>The site does have a fairly good discography,
> >> >Fairly good? Apart from Kotta's site (which is excellent), there's no
> >> >other site whose discography comes close to it.
> >> Why is linked really oddly?
> >You seem to think that many things are odd that not many others have
> >problems with...yet you think your site is comprehensive and
> >easier-to-navigate. That's hilarious. Someone should rate your site
> >following your own criteria.
>
> Fair enough, www.prodge.demon.co.uk IS inferior to OPC. I'm going to
> take that site down anyway.
Do you have even one brain cell??
>
> >> >>The polls make interesting reading, the history is quite original and
> >> >>the tour dates are useful.
> >> >How come you only point out the most basic sections that almost all
> >> >sites have? There are tons you seem to be forgetting about, which give
> >> >The Center its real value.
> >> The humor section?
> >No, the 20+ others.
>
> Mainly covered by other sites.
I'm yet to see a site that has as many sections as OPC
>
> >And those are quite amusing; I'd prefer that to the Credits section any
> >day.
>
> I could sell you a few videos of Richard Stilgoe if that's your
> preferred type of humour.
Or you could just review the page for what info it has and leave your
personal feelings about sentinel out of it
>
> >> >>Cynically, you could say the site is an overgrown FAQ, and looks
> >> >terrible with the new unwanted
> >> >>additions of banner adverts and "get-paid-for-surfing" scam links.
> >> >They are probably only temporary, and I need some income from a site
> >> >I've put enormous energy into.
> >> I'm typing this after a 4 hours of work on EN, btw.
> >You want a cookie?
>
> No, recognition will be fine thanx.
yeah fat chance, your wasting your time.
>
> >> >>But it's a good place to start off with if you're a newbie.
> >> >>Just prepare to handle the daft navigation!"
> >> >It must be daft for those to whom "April 4" means more than
> >> >"Discography"!
> >> If you're in the news section, you've clicked on 1999, and you see
> >> April 4th, you know what's going on.
> >Will it be a Prodigy concert review? Will it be a new Janus Stark song?
> >Have Leeroy and Sarah bought a new house? Was One Love have playing in
> >the background on a used car sales ad?
>
> Let's see shall we?
> <hops over to www.earthbound-network.com/p_index.html.
> Clicks NEWS.
> Clicks 1999.
> Clicks April.>
>
> Now, so far, without having actually clicked on the page for April
> 4th, we can see what is going to be on it.
>
> Here's what I can see...
>
> Week 1 of April 1999
> Thu 01 Full details of Greek festival Rockwave with Prodigy
> headlining. Rare 1993 Liam DJ mix on EN Radio.
> Fri 02 Further details from Radio 1 and The Sun, about Liam's
> Gatecrasher DJ set for June - Leeds or Sheffield?
> Sat 03
>
> Week 2 of April 1999
> Sun 04
> Mon 05 URL of new EN site announced. Liam DJing in Ireland this week?
> Liam interviewed on XL website.
>
> So, nothing beside April 4th, whereas the 1st, 2nd and 5th do have
> some content mentioned.
>
> <clicks on the April 4th link>
>
> Now I see :
>
> SORRY!
> Not a single scrap of news related to Prodigy/Liam
> Howlett/Maxim/Longman/Janus Stark/Pitch Shifter was found by us
> today... or maybe we haven't written it yet? (check later!)
> Do take a look at another page!
>
> So, there you go. Just what we expected.
>
> >I havew no clue,
>
> Don't we fucking know it.
>
> >because "April
> >4th" DOESN'T TELL ME JACK ABOUT WHAT THE CONTENTS OF THE PAGE WILL BE.
> >It gives me a date, but I haven't the foggiest idea what the page will
> >be about. And that's what all 400= pages of your News section are like!
>
> BULLSHIT.
>
> >SOUNDS LIKE AN AWFULLY DAFT WAY TO NAVIGATE!
>
> What, putting descriptions by the links is awfully daft? Hmmm....
you could use self explanatory links instead.
>
> >No no no, I know exactly what will be on that page, what am I thinking,
> >all thanks to that handy little explanation that pops up on my nav bar.
> >Thank goodness, I didn't have to waste perecious seconds of my life to
> >click on the page and see what's in it. Thank godness for that. Oh, wait
> >a minute...
>
> yep, wait a minute - we've put the descriptions on the actual web
> pages next to the links!
>
> So now you don't have to drag your mouse over to the link and look at
> the nav bar, because we've saved that bother for you!
>
> No, really, you're welcome...
>
> >Oh well, so what if the EN News is 10000x harder to navigate than
> >OPC...
>
> Didn't you get taught the calendar at school then?
didnt you get taught the english language at all?
>
> >at least every single page is chock full of useful
> >information...oh, what's this...
> >"Sorry, not a single scrap of news."
> >Good thing so very few of the pages are like this. Oh, wait...
>
> ...On average, EN News is only 2 days a week like this.
>
> There has NEVER been a Prodigy-related news service on the internet
> that has put out more news than EN News.
>
> There has NEVER been a Prodigy-related news service on the internet
> more frequent than EN News.
>
> Think back to the others. Tobi's list reached more people than EN,
> yes, but it was never as frequent than EN. Sentinel's short lived
> mailing list also tailed behind EN in the frequency stakes too.
>
> >> But when you go to a site, and see before you things like "Advised",
> >> "opposition"... well... it doesn't help!
> >And then you look at the nav bar...whew!
>
> Yeah, great. Let's drag the mouse to each link to see what's going on.
> None of that pesky "display the description next to the link" business
> here!
>
> >> "I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
> >Yeah, obviously.
>
> A quote from a 'popular' regular's own website. Enjoy the irony.
did you get permission to quote that??
Kotta
> Duh! It would be MORE helpful to have the description next to the
> link.
Hey Pete, before you go on nagging about the left frame on OPC let me just point something out.
I've been to OPC a couple of times and I'm yet to use the frame, I mean it's all there on the main
page in plain text, all the links on a convenient sitemap. It's been there for as long as I can
remember and with that you can just ignore the frame and use the 'back' button on your browser. The
frame is just there for those who don't want to back up all the time and for those it's a very good
help but the site is very easy to navigate without using the frame.
On a further note I must say the the OPC review on EN was written in an unnecessarily negative way,
it's quite clear that you see OPC as a rival to EN and you're therefore more eager to comment the
bad things (iyo) about the site than the good things. After all the OPC is without a doubt THE most
comprehensive prodigy site on the net, it might not be the best in all areas (i.e. news,
discography) but it covers allmost every possible aspect around the Prodigy and the members and it
is therefore a great asset to all Prodigy fans on the net.
--
kotta [at] mindless.com
http://www.isk.kth.se/~id96_kko
ICQ# 6963779
Peter Thomas
>Thats why EN is shit
"dont criticise til your perfect"
>> >> "We're going full throttle (Distorted)"
>> >What's wrong with that?
>> "(Reversed)" would be more appropriate.
>did you have to nit pick about stupid little mistakes??
I was asked to point out mistakes. I did exactly that.
>> >> "Let's jet out, we'll goose at hyperspeed"
>> >> "Goose here probably means to give a spurt of fuel to (a motor) to
>> >> increase speed. If you disagree (that is, you think he says cruise
>> >> instead of
>> >> goose), please listen more closely, and you will hear it really is
>> >> goose! "
>> >What's wrong with that?
>> LOL! Oh, per-leeeease.
>can you prove that its wrong?
Have you heard the original sample souce?
>> Does anyone here honestly think it is "goose"? We covered this on the
>> newsgroup last month, IIRC.
>who cares thats what he hears thats what he puts on his page
But it's wrong.
>think of it this way the online prodigy center is made by one person
>the EN website is made by 10 or somethin, he hasnt really got anyone to ok
>it with.
All it takes is simple listening.
>> >> "Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
>> >> vocals by Keith Flint) "
>> >What's wrong with that?
>> Keith Flint only appears on the Sunrise Version.
>point?
"Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
vocals by Keith Flint) "
>> >> "We gonna rock, mutherfucker
>> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
>> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
>> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
>> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, motherf***er "
>> >What's wrong with that?
>> I'm curious as to why fucker becomes f***er later on.
>its not a mistake though is it??
A mistake in consistency.
>> >> "Religion
>> ><SNIP>
>> >Those are the lyrics to the original Religion, it's right.
>> Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
>to inform prodigy fans on prodigy related things.
Well, the Prodigy remixes are more Prodigy-related.
>> >> "Zeroes And Ones
>> >> (Original by Jesus Jones; Remixed by Liam)
>> >Those are the lyrcs to the original as well...also correct.
>> Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
>does it really matter?
>its still right.
Not quite - the labelling is confusing.
>its extra info.
So's the bible, but I'm not putting it on EN.
>> >> "Made In Two Minutes
>> >> (Original by Bug Kann & The Plastic Jam; Remixed by Liam)
>> >What's wrong with that?
>> No notification of what version he is quoting from.
>not a mistake though
I would call it a mistake to do that.
>> Fair enough, www.prodge.demon.co.uk IS inferior to OPC. I'm going to
>> take that site down anyway.
>Do you have even one brain cell??
Are you criticizing me? Hey, don't do that 'til you're perfect. (Your
logic, not mine.)
>> Mainly covered by other sites.
>I'm yet to see a site that has as many sections as OPC
But the content on OPC could be just put into around 10 sections at
the most. I swear most of those "sections" are just there to fill the
frame.
>> I could sell you a few videos of Richard Stilgoe if that's your
>> preferred type of humour.
>Or you could just review the page for what info it has
Have done.
>and leave your personal feelings about sentinel out of it
I've never met the guy. So what personal feelings can I have for him?
>> What, putting descriptions by the links is awfully daft? Hmmm....
>you could use self explanatory links instead.
Do tell this to Sentinel, who uses :
January 1999
February 1999
March 1999, etc...
>> >Oh well, so what if the EN News is 10000x harder to navigate than
>> >OPC...
>> Didn't you get taught the calendar at school then?
>didnt you get taught the english language at all?
Yes, far better than yourself.
>> >> "I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
>> >Yeah, obviously.
>> A quote from a 'popular' regular's own website. Enjoy the irony.
>did you get permission to quote that??
Did DJ Swift get permission to quote that??
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"I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
Peter Thomas
>> http://enetwork.future.easyspace.com/files/songbook/
>These are supposed to be 'official' lyrics, are they?
>Not to argue, I'm just checking ... the incredible number
>of typos and spelling mistakes lead me to believe this
>is a tad dodgy.
>"I've got a bad attidude"?
>You 'red to my face'???
>I'd like to know where Tobi got these 'official' lyrics from,
>because this is about as official as Italian 'Music 4 the
>Voodoo People' book.
>Not picking on you for this, Peter, as you didn't write
>the book this is from, but ... no, sorry, this is very far
>indeed from being 'official sheet music' or anything
>approaching it.
Bollocks. It is official. See page1.gif
Mike
I did!
> some underage club, but it's shit. They play shit music like out of
> sync and the backstreet boys. I'll save my money, or go some where else
> :-)
??????!!!!!
Oh dear boy, if only you lived closer to D.C.; the 9:30 Club is
all-ages, like one of the nation's most respected clubs, and ALWAYS has
great names coming through. Albeit, some of the shows that come through
probly shouldn't be all ages (GWAR, Genitortures, etc). Anyway, you're
right though; I was kind of mortified to hear Britney Spears pumping out
of the clubs in ITALY last month...eight times in two hours, maybe more,
just to suit all the American kids that were there. Uch, as though
there's not enough of it at home. Blecthh.
But I digress.
Peter Thomas
>>>>Have never heard of a bloke in women's clothes then?
>>>Yeah... they're called Transvestites, Petey... Transvestites...
>>Are you trying to tell me that ALL blokes who have worn women's
>>clothes are transvestites?
>No... I'm calling you a transvestite...
[insert proof here]
(Pretty strange... First of all he says that a "bloke in women's
clothes" is a "transvestite". Now he contradicts himself! There is no
hope for this pathetic retard.)
Peter Thomas
>>>>you think EN is full of people who say nothing but "yes" to me, you
>>>>better think again.
>>>If they dont say yes, you threaten to quit.
>>More stupid conclusions.
>ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT!
[insert proof here]
>>>>>8/10 with constant whinging about something as small and stupid as a
>>>>>damn frame!
>>>>When it ruins the site, it should be noted. That's what I did.
>>>If it "ruined the site" why give it an 8/10?
>>Er, It would have got 9 or 9.5.
>So subtract a whole 1.5 point because of a silly frame? Oh
>peeeer-wheeese...
Why not? It's my opinion, not yours.
You feel so strongly about it, you make your own site and do what you
feel.
>>>>>I counted...
>>>>What did you count?
>>>OPC vs. EN
>>Yeah, WHAT EXACTLY did you cound?
>How does one cound?
Are you pointing out a typo?
Back to where we where... :
Yeah, WHAT EXACTLY did you count?
>>>I asked to point out mistakes in the lyrics... "Remixed by Prodigy:
>>>Factory Girl" is not a lyric...
>>It's a mistake in the lyrics page.
>But its not a lyric... You agreed to show me mistakes in the lyrics...
...pages.
Thank you.
>>>Why did EN cover Castbreeder?
>>In the news section? Because it was news, duh...
>BUT IT WAS FAKE!! WHY BOTHER REPORTING ON IT?!?!?!?
In the news section? Because it was news, duh...
>>>So... EN readers are now easily amused?
>>If they found it absolutely hilarious, then yeah.
>Man... dissing the same people that support you now... what a shame...
Melody Maker support us do they? News to me.
>>>since it was "April 6th 1999" is wasn't always there even before
>>>EN.com went up, like you claimed...
>>It's been there since April 6th 1999. End of story.
>But it hasn't since EN.com went up...
It has, I should know, and so should Smitty. That's it.
You're the one stupid enough not to check it out in the first place
and then moan about it.
>>>>>Its the truth... the NG has been surveyed...
>>>>...and a tiny handful preferred OPC, in a survey conducted by a troll.
>>>The NG has been surveyed...
>>The NG didn't fully reply back.
>Never-the-less... the NG has been surveyed...
...and it didn't give a fuck.
>>>><bigot mode>
>>>>Yeah, 'cos it's only poofs who wear dresses!
>>>></bigot mode>
>>>UUuuuuuummmmm... yup!
>>I really would like to see you say that to some certain people I know
>>in real life.
>Your boyfriend?
Why do you write in the same manner of the kind of graffiti that gets
written on school lockers?
You know the sort of shit :
"Michelle is poor her family have no money"
"John is gay and a bender and he has AIDs"
"Mike has fleas and he smells"
It really does make you look like an 8 year old twat.
Peter Thomas
>> >> >>Count the content then.
>> >> >How can content be counted?
>> >> Bytes.
>> >Errrrr. Wrong.
>> Why is it wrong? And what is your answer for it?
>BYTES DOES NOT EQUAL CONTENT! Bytes can add up from poor imaging and
>HTML coding. Or just a big layout which has more HTML. But you can NOT
>measure content in bytes, as it is variable.
>Quality, not Quantity.
And what is your answer for it?
And what is your answer for it?
And what is your answer for it?
And what is your answer for it?
And what is your answer for it?
<ahem>
>>> >Try this sentinel:
>> >Take all the images on your site. Save them without any image reduction
>> >size, making simple images nearly 50-200 kilobytes. There, now you have
>> >more content.
>> >Sorry pete, wrong again.
>> Now, if we were to download every publically available file (html,
>> jpg, gif, zip, whatever) stored internally on each website...
>And? Yah, you'd have the same stuff, just extra bytes and wasted time.
Or a measure of the 2 biggest Prodigy sites, in bytes.
>> Duh! It would be MORE helpful to have the description next to the
>> link.
>Try the alt text.
What alt text in the OPC frame? There isn't much of it, it's only used
4 times there.
Oh, and even the mouseover text seems to have vanished this time.
>That's even "on" the image. And don't give me this
>"browsers don't support it" stuff, because even Lynx does, and it
>doesn't support images!
Just as well I wasn't going to, as I have used Lynx.
Peter Thomas
>Peter Thomas wrote:
>> Duh! It would be MORE helpful to have the description next to the
>> link.
>Hey Pete, before you go on nagging about the left frame on OPC let me just point something out.
>I've been to OPC a couple of times and I'm yet to use the frame, I mean it's all there on the main
>page in plain text, all the links on a convenient sitemap.
Now currently without any descriptions for the links, not even in the
status bar.
>It's been there for as long as I can
>remember and with that you can just ignore the frame and use the 'back' button on your browser. The
>frame is just there for those who don't want to back up all the time and for those it's a very good
>help but the site is very easy to navigate without using the frame.
I've had to click on "writings", "stories", etc, to see what they are.
Lack of descriptions again.
>On a further note I must say the the OPC review on EN was written in an unnecessarily negative way,
Oh, only a mere 8 out of 10...
>it's quite clear that you see OPC as a rival to EN and you're therefore more eager to comment the
>bad things (iyo) about the site than the good things.
I would like to see the bad things go.
>After all the OPC is without a doubt THE most
>comprehensive prodigy site on the net, it might not be the best in all areas (i.e. news,
>discography) but it covers allmost every possible aspect around the Prodigy and the members and it
>is therefore a great asset to all Prodigy fans on the net.
Which is why I reccommend it on the links page, and why I reccommended
it last night in Sub Mission. What's the problem?
Sentinel
one.
>>What descriptions are talking about? The ones in the brilliant "Jan 1,
>>Jan 2" listing?
>On the months, yes.
On the months. But not on the days.
>>Then who did you call easily-amused people?
>The majority of regular OPC visitors.
8-D Of course. The majority of regular OPC visitors are easily amused,
but the majority of regular EN visitors(?) are truly great people,
compliments to them. Is that right?
>>Oh, like EN's news section isn't cluttered up now!
>It's rare that I come across people who think calendars and diaries
>are cluttered up.
It's rare that I come across people who think a site's news section is
the same as a calendar or a diary.
>>You just don't get it? The Reading 98 Section isn't a live review. It
is
>>conceptually different from the Live Section.
>Reading 98 - by definition, it's live
Yes, corpses can't read.
>>Is this The Prodigy Shrine (to which you say "Jeez") whose operator
you
>>quote on your main page? Great.
>Yeah, along with Tobi Wood too. I trust you know who he is.
Of course. By quoting them next to each other, you imply that they are
on the same level (Tobi and MeProdigy).
>>Speaking of technology, what's your opinion of the use of JavaScript
on
>>OPC?
>Well, the mouse-over text isn't needed. It's one of the things I
>loathe.
Afraid of suddenly appearing things or what? For what reason do you
loathe them for?
>>If you made the menu more understandable (like OPC)
>Joke Of The Week!
Yes, we still agree with you on that "Aug 7" is more descriptive than
"Discography". LOL!
>>>We sourced them from the official sheet music. What's the problem?
>>They are officially wrong...
>LOL! "The official sheet music is wrong" by DJ Swift. Classic denial.
>>Where can we get this official sheet music?
>I got the scans from Tobi's PUA CD-roms.
THE OFFICIAL SHEET MUSIC??? <rolling on the floor laughing>
Up to now, I didn't know what official sheet music you were talking
about... now I fully understand. LOL!
You took the book which contains "Music transcribed by Barner Music
Engraving Ltd." for the official sheet music? Which doesn't have a
single reference to XL in it? :DDDD
>Did the eclipse come early to your country? You seem to be
>blind already.
Are you in the false belief that a solar eclipse blinds all people? Not
to mention that this eclipse won't be experienced in the US, only in
Europe.
>Because, as time goes by, there's a possibility of them no longer
>being commercially available.
List them _then_.
>>Now read whats on the pages instead of looking for mistakes.
>Have done, found mistakes tho.
I found mistakes on EN, too.
>>So who are the people that use these polls?
>OPC visitors.
OPC visitors = easily amused Prodigy haters. Yeah, riiiight.
>>> >>>>>Unlike the FAQ....
>>> >>>>...which is even more useful.
>>> >>>Bullshit.
>>> >>In your opinion.
>>> >Prove me wrong...
>>> What, again?
>>Youve proved him wrong to yourself, not to anyone else.
>Then why have a great deal of people used the FAQ and found it useful
>then?
You're changing the subject. Good trick, but it didn't fool me.
The point was whether the FAQ is more useful or OPC. The truth is that a
great deal of people don't seem to find it more useful than OPC.
>>Alot of proffessional webpages use adverts to make money.
>A lot of self-respecting webpages don't.
So what?
>>If you think its dumb to try and make some money you are a really
>dumb person.
>Make money by all means, but not with some dodgy spam scam.
You are obviously scared by things you know nothing about.
>>alot more helpful than the calander system.
>You're comparing apples with oranges now.
Appels + Oranjes.
>There is great information there, but it's NOT helpful with the design
>left in it's current state.
8-D
>Not only did I say that, but so did two other EN members. Ever took up
>issue with that?
If you saw the email Paul sent to me... but you won't see it.
>>> What, like "The Prodigy Shrine"? "The Prodigy Domain"? Jeez...
>>or the Acid Organisation?
>I think I'd give my own site 6 or 7 out of 10 nowadays.
For the brilliant design or for the excellent content?
>No-one is being forced to read our links reviews. The links are there
>(surprise!), so you can go to them, and make up your own mind. I've
>not had a single complaint from the webmasters of the included sites
>so far.
Of course, I'm nobody to you.
>>But you dont have to go on about one frame.
>When it's untidy and unhelpful, YES.
An "untidy" and "unhelpful" thing that most people find tidy and
helpful. Oh, they must be easily-amused.
>>opc uses the frames well, and the frame is needed there.
>Hmmm, "frame" and "needed" in the same sentence.
Of course your design skills are superior to mine.
>>> | --> http://prodigy.geomax.com
>Doesn't exist.
http://www.prodigy.geomax.net/
>>> | SEARCH
>Yeah, we got one of those.
Extremely unhelpful with the current structure of EN.
>><>LYRICS
>Yeah, same here, with less errors.
Yeah, same here, with less errors.
>><> PICTURES <>
>Yeah, we have over 140 different ones, many of them not seen before.
Oh, you mean those 125+ pictures that were taken from the videos? Yes,
not seen before AT ALL...
>><> POLLS
>Done this too.
With the most original "Which are your favorite tracks?" question...
Yes, compliments.
>><>WALLPAPER
>Yep.
8-D
>>GUESBOOK <>
>No thanx.
8D You fear that not many easily-amused people visit EN?
>><>ONTV
>We do Prod Spotting, yes.
Booooooooooring to see it in 15 issues a month.
>>and probably
>>not even cows have an IQ of 4. MANY jokes are about things that DO NOT
>>exist in reality, and can ONLY be taken SERIOUSLY by "the
>>easily-amused".
>I knew it was a joke,
Really?
>but the way the guy wrote about EN looked like he had never
>seen the site at all.
How did you draw this conclusion if you knew he was just joking?
>>You mean he gets wrong stories from EN? Does he get a different
>>newsletter, or do we too get false stories? Just interested...
>I mean his own stories about EN. Don't know why I am explaining this,
>as you have shown you have no sense of abstraction.
:-D I wonder what you would have replied if I had included a smiley at
the end... Oh well, I don't think you would have understood it then,
either.
>>Why bothered reporting The Castbreeder then?
>Now that would be called news...
Then why is it still in the News section? It was released more than half
a year ago. I don't call that news anymore.
>>Wanna join a club for illiterates? Please point me to a page on OPC
that
>>has this text on it! Thanks!
>Great, you've updated it!
Do some research on the sites before criticizing them.
>>>Does anyone here honestly think it is "goose"?
>>Yeah, who does?
>You did.
Do some research on the sites before criticizing them.
>Depends what you're on about. The actual Prodigy's remix's lyrics or
>the original song's lyrics. Now, *I* know you mean the latter, because
>I recognise the lyrics myself. But not every fan does.
The truth is that fans usually recognize which lyrics are on the page
*if they actually know the song*. If they don't know the song, I don't
know why they would read the lyrics (to sing along to a tune composed by
themselves or what?)
>>1) Please tell me how long those descriptions have been there.
>Since April 6th 1999.
Really? For April 7, too? Also April 8 and April 9? Not to mention April
10?
>>2) And what, putting descriptions in onmouseover tags is awfully daft?
>The sound of a first-time OPC user :
>"What's this? <drags mouse> What's this? <drags mouse> What's this?
><drags mouse> What's this? <drags mouse> What's this? <drags mouse>
>What's this? <drags mouse> What's this? <drags mouse>"
Yeah, a retard who doesn't know what a Discography or a Lyrics page is
would do that.
And I'm sure he would strain his muscles by dragging the mouse all 200
pixels away!!!
>>People will bless your name for relieving them from this pain.
><Empyrean>Pint, you fool!</Empyrean>
<PT>It's from the official lyrics, you fool!!!</PT>
<The rest of the newsgroup>Sniggering...</TROTN>
>>I'll make some sections labeled '1', '2', '3' etc. and ask the
>>complainers "Didn't you get taught the number system at school then?"
>So, where are you going store these numbers under then?
"2" and "3" under "Prime Numbers", and I'll make a category called
"Sqr(i)" for "1".
>>I preferred making longer issues, instead of sending out many 2K-long
>>ones-.
>Fair enough for you, but I've always wanted the news as close to when
>it happens.
Especially when you sent out 5 issues on the same day (5 separate
issues, instead of making 1 out of them)
>Not all of them, but for titles such as
>Advised, Opposition, Stories, etc...
That leaves how many? (Btw you don't know what Stories are?)
>"I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
"It's what you want, to know no consequences,
It's what you need, to fucking bleed!"
>>So you're judging ALL the people who like OPC better based on those
two.
>>That seems fair.
>No, but I do think there's something wrong with their judgement.
Based on that one person? <applause from the background>
>>It's in the LIVE SECTION. THEREFORE IT IS LIVE.
>It was taken from the lyrics page, Mike.
Yes, the LIVE LYRICS.
>The title of the track was found on a set list written by the Prodigy.
>Therefore it was dubbed 'Brown' by the Prodigy, and not by fans.
Really? Then how come Liam didn't know what it was? (A fake fan, is he?)
>>Which is the album version... and it is on the lyrics of the
EXPERIENCE
>>ALBUM Page!!!
>Then give the title in full.
There is no logical connection between what Mike said and what you said.
:>No other istes have a Humor Page that original.
>No other humor page is that unfunny.
8D
>>No other sites have that many lyrics.
>And not many have that many errors.
>>Very few sites have Dirtchamber coverage that extensive.
>Why is it not under the discography?
8:-D
>I wouldn't accept that page if it were submitted to EN. Terrible
>biased views from some Beasties fans. No balance shown there.
BEASTIES FANS??? NO BALANCE? What are you talking about? Next time try
to *understand* what you're reading!
>>I shouldn't expect any news to be on those pages, by your own logic.
>Those pages haven't been updated yet.
Hey, Mike, those descriptions have been up since April 6! Don't forget!
>Well, let's see OPC - they do it in a style where it's a page to a
>month. And there's no descriptions at all. Not even on the nav bar.
8-) You clearly don't know what a News Archive is. Otherwise you would
have checked it out.
>>What a horrific bother it was.
>If it can be done easier, we'll get it done that way.
Then please create a search engine that intelligently answers questions
about the Prodigy, that would be much easier for EN visitors. (Remember:
"If it can be done easier, we'll get it done that way.")
><Empyrean>
>He said pint!
></Empyrean>
<PT>
OFFICIAL SHEET MUSIC!!!
</PT>
>>Also you should give 2 marks per site, one for the content and one for
>>the design, then count Content 3/4 and design 1/4 for the total
>>mark.... if its 5 or more, list it, if its less then 5, you do not
>>really help anyone by listing it.
>Hmm.. I don't see content and design as equals. I have always seen
>content as being far superior to design (hence my review of As We
>Roll...).
<Math Lesson>You weren't good at math in school, were you? So one EN
member who gives out ratings is somebody who thinks 1/4 (0.25, in case
you don't know) equals 3/4 (0.75, in case you don't know)... For your
help, I'll also tell you that 10 * 1/4 + 10 * 3/4 = 10 (that's the
maximum you can reach with this method)!</Math Lesson>
>I also think it's sad that such a storming knee-jerk reaction (to what
>is after all, a page of people's honest opinons) has virtually taken
>over the newsgroup today.
I think it's sad you have such a storming knee-jerk reaction to what we
say about the EN site, what is after all, our honest opinion.
>> >He changed the frame for you and EN's liking,
>> Has he? <checks OPC>
>> Nope, it's not changed for my liking at all.
What??? When I changed the frame, you said "I have been trying to drop
that massive hint to you for some time now!" If you were trying to
suggest me something, I THINK that was something YOU LIKED.
I've made the changes you claim you were suggesting, and now you say
"Nope, it's not changed for my liking at all." Completely logical,
congratulations.
>>>Does this make their views any less valid?
>>No. It's just thought-provoking.
>Indeed. The views of the EN members on the links page offer more
>realism than the usual "YOUR PAGE IS GRATE!!!!!!!! I LUV KEITH!!!!
>MARRY MEE!!!!!!!!! PRODIGY R00LZ!!!" guestbook entry from
>pre-pubescent schoolgirls.
So you think the rest of the newsgroup (and everybody else who thinks
OPC is better than EN) are on the level of pre-pubescent schoolgirls?
Congratulations.
>>You haven't proved that EN's claims are right.
>>I haven't proved that OPC's claims are right.
>>You haven't proved that OPC's claims are wrong.
>>I haven't proved that EN's claims are wrong.
>>That's a draw.
>Looks like it'll be time for the obvious then.
People seem to have decided it for themselves.
>>How can content be counted?
>Bytes.
Bytes :))) Please count EN's "bytes".
>>(And before you bring up the number of
>>pages, let me remind you that ONE single A0 page can contain 6x as
much
>>info as FIVE A5 pages.)
>I know that.
Yet you're still comparing 120 pages to 350.
>Typo! Should be : >>Why is it linked really oddly?
Oddly???
>Yeah, news for the 4th of April 1999 is in front of you, strangely
>enough.
That really helps.
>>You still don't get the meaning of "onmouseover()"?
>I do, but why bother with it? It's not very helpful.
It tells people what's behind Opposition, Advised, even Discography and
the rest, yet it's not very helpful. Of course.
>>>It's only slightly better. It still needs more of a change.
>>Jan 1, Jan 2...
>Well, to get there, you'd have clicked on NEWS, then 1999, then
>January. If by then you haven't sussed out that the links are for news
>pages for January 1999, seek medical help.
That's THREE clicks. If you want to know what's on the Opposition page
that's ONE click. If you clicked on it, and by then you haven't sussed
out that the link is for anti-Prodigy movements, seek medical help.
>>Thats because Sentinel doesn't big up his site and make false claims
>>about it...
>Er, think again - "The largest and most popular Prodigy site on the
>net".
It's a response to your claims.
>>Of course every site is going to have the same discography...
>Not at all.
Right - OPC has a much bigger discography than 99% of the sites out
there. Yet you forget about it.
>>every Prodigy site is going to have the Lyrics... THERE ARE ONLY ONE
>>SET OF THEM!!!!!!
>But who's got the most accurate?
OPC.
>>Oh wait... I/We/Most of the NG already do
>Most of the NG? How do you measure the newsgroup's size then?
The regular posters probably give a good picture of all the NG
subscribers (including those who don't post).
>>Mabye its copyrighted material?
>The EN members' reviews of the sites are copyrighted to EN.
NME's news stories are copyrighted to NME.
>I got a "thank you" message from Sentinel after sending him a link
>notification mail.
Before reading what you wrote on the page.
>I'll repeat...
>120 > 400?
I'll repeat...
A4 > A0?
>>ROTFLMAO! Helpfull advice from an EN member
>Who expressed much the same view as I did.
In a much more decent way.
>>instead of bitching and whinging at the closest "competition"
>Kotta's Prodigy Page?
8-D Do you really think Kotta's site is the closest competition? (Tho I
agree that it's great)
><OPC style>
>January...
>February..
>March...
>April...
></OPC style>
Now THAT is EN's style!
>>And constant whining about something as silly as frames
>Constant? A single paragraph, get real.
Count how many "single paragraph"-s you've written about it in this NG.
>>So? I'd rather click a link to goto another section than have to
>>click "back" 3-4 times to get to the main menu...
>Your opinion.
You obviously like clicking on 4 links more than clicking on 1 link.
>>Quote from the page: "(Original by The Rolling Stones; Remixed by
>>Maxim)" I consider Maxim (shock, horror!) to be a Prodigy member.
>In that case, I can't wait for the new Prodigy single out on Monday.
So you think "Maxim is a Prodigy member" = "Maxim is The Prodigy"? I
feel sorry for you then.
>>The NG has been surveyed...
>The NG didn't fully reply back.
So when you say you asked the "largest existing Prodigy community" in
the polls, we can dismiss that by saying "That community didn't fully
reply back"?
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Weirdo
> "Weirdo" <Ne...@davidlees.force9.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >He still lives with his mum.
>
> So do you. Your point?
Nope, not anymore.
> (BTW, Keith Flint lived with his parents up to 1996.)
Did he wear his girlfriends clothes?
> >He enjoys wearing his girlfriends (ex girlfriend now, I wonder why?)
clothes
>
> "enjoys" - that's quite questionable. I was dressed like a 13 year old
> tart, and I wouldn't dream of venturing out in public like that,
> especially in the town I live in! Mind you, the tights were quite
> comfy... :)
You still publicly realesed the pictur though. If you could go back in
time, would you still do that?
> >and claims that it is normal.
>
> Have never heard of a bloke in women's clothes then? I thought that
> was quite usual in your town (seriously - no personal disrespect meant
> there - just my own observation). Do you get out much?
Yeah, I get out. There tends to be certain areas in Brighton where you
would see lots of people in strange clothes at night. I tend not to go to
these places at night though because there is nothing there for me. The
"Gay Brighton" thing is not really in your face, unless you go out looking
for the it. I still wouldn't call a man wearing womans clothes, normal
though. Its not normal because most people don't do it.
Song To The Siren
>
>Did he wear his girlfriends clothes?
>
>
No, just other womens ;D
========
"All Prodigy music is raw, and that will never change, the production is
raw, the sounds are dirty, you can’t get away from that.
Take it or leave it." Liam Howlett
chemicalsmile
Mike <MY_ADDY_...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:37A899...@erols.com...
> chemicalsmile wrote:
> >
> > >Its the truth... the NG has been surveyed...
> >
>
> You haven't been here that long..it's happened. Feel free to contribute
> your $.02, though. :)
Anytime.
I would be my 2 pence though! ;)
chemicalsmile :Ş
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DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>Bollocks. It is official. See page1.gif
What about it?
DJ Swift
Thomas) wrote:
>>>Are you trying to tell me that ALL blokes who have worn women's
>>>clothes are transvestites?
>>No... I'm calling you a transvestite...
>[insert proof here]
Silver.jpg
>(Pretty strange... First of all he says that a "bloke in women's
>clothes" is a "transvestite".
I call a 'bloke' in makup, stockings, and fake tits a transvestite...
>Now he contradicts himself! There is no
>hope for this pathetic retard.)
Now he contradicts himself! There is no hope for this pathetic
crossdresser...
Weirdo
> Why do you write in the same manner of the kind of graffiti that gets
> written on school lockers?
>
> You know the sort of shit :
>
> "Michelle is poor her family have no money"
> "John is gay and a bender and he has AIDs"
> "Mike has fleas and he smells"
"Pete looks like an 8 year old twat"
> It really does make you look like an 8 year old twat.
Oh dear.
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Empyrean
YOU'RE NOT DRINKIN A PINT, DICKSMACK, YOU'RE ON A
GALLON OF WINDEX!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Oh my God, that's SOME funky shit?????" *CRACKING UP!!!*
You fucking IDIOT, there's one goddamn line in the whole track
and the "official" book has it WRONG?!!!!!
"SPRING LEADS"??? Try SPRING LEAVES, fucker.
"DREAMS TO ANOTHER BOUT?" Try CHANGE TO ANOTHER
ROUTE, transvestite.
"EMPLOIT THE POINT" ?????????? An OFFICIAL typo.
"DRASTICAALY" ??????????? Another OFFICIAL typo.
"BAD ATTIDUDE" ????????? Yet another OFFICIAL typo.
There's more, but I think I'll stop the typos for now....
"ON YOUR ENERGY DAY?" Try ON YOUR EVERY DAY, gimp.
"I'M THE PAIN YOU TASTED?" Try PINT YOU TASTED, you deaf
cocksucker.
And Fuel My Fire is missing a WHOLE LINE!!!!! :-))))))))
I think I've proved my point.
Thanks for proving yourself wrong, asshole, and boosting my confidence
in the word "pint."
--
Empyrean
rlove3l @ home.com
I ask you again: How often do you taste pain, shitlick?
PS: (Don't blame me for this flame post, blame Pete's idiocy.)
Empyrean
> I do hope this clears up the situation somewhat. I'll be off, tasting
> my "pint" now.
I ACTUALLY BELIEVE YOU!!!! :-D
Empyrean
> "Empyrean" <empy...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >> I'm afraid I think it's 'pain', dear, but it SOUNDS one hell of
> >> a lot more like 'pint' to me
> >Sorry, but peer pressure just isn't gonna cut it. I like 'pint' better,
> >and I'm stickin' with it. :-P
>
> Wu Tang Clan are developing their own computer game for the
> Playstation. The title is "Taste The Pint".... um... or was it "Taste
> The Pain"? (No prizes for guessing the right one of course)
Once again, I must apologise for Pete's moronic belief that
he knows everything. The REAL title for that game is:
'Wu Tang: Shaolin Style'
Check it out for yourself, if you don't believe me:
http://www.gameinformer.com/news/apr99/042999c.html
Sorry to burst your ego, buddy.
Everlast
>
> > Tell me a 14-15 year old who goes to night clubs. Sure, I could go to
>
> I did!
...
> > some underage club, but it's shit. They play shit music like out of
> > sync and the backstreet boys. I'll save my money, or go some where else
> > :-)
>
> ??????!!!!!
>
> Oh dear boy, if only you lived closer to D.C.; the 9:30 Club is
> all-ages, like one of the nation's most respected clubs, and ALWAYS has
> great names coming through. Albeit, some of the shows that come through
> probly shouldn't be all ages (GWAR, Genitortures, etc). Anyway, you're
> right though; I was kind of mortified to hear Britney Spears pumping out
> of the clubs in ITALY last month...eight times in two hours, maybe more,
> just to suit all the American kids that were there. Uch, as though
> there's not enough of it at home. Blecthh.
I'm talking about like clubs with people DJing, not just concerts... I
know about the 9:30 club, and have looked in to getting tickets for some
shows, but I missed Prodigy (damn family vacation, damn it to hell!),
and nothing else too interesting has been there that i've heard about.
Everlast
>
> "Deb" <lo...@the.sig> wrote:
>
> >> http://enetwork.future.easyspace.com/files/songbook/
> >These are supposed to be 'official' lyrics, are they?
> >Not to argue, I'm just checking ... the incredible number
> >of typos and spelling mistakes lead me to believe this
> >is a tad dodgy.
> >"I've got a bad attidude"?
> >You 'red to my face'???
> >I'd like to know where Tobi got these 'official' lyrics from,
> >because this is about as official as Italian 'Music 4 the
> >Voodoo People' book.
> >Not picking on you for this, Peter, as you didn't write
> >the book this is from, but ... no, sorry, this is very far
> >indeed from being 'official sheet music' or anything
> >approaching it.
>
Something smells fishy. First of all, when you uploaded it there were 4
images, Cover.gif, Page4.Gif, Page1.gif ( i think) and Page35.gif. Now
there's only 2 there. Did somebody delete something, hmmph?
Everlast
> >> >> >>Count the content then.
> >> >> Bytes.
> >> Why is it wrong? And what is your answer for it?
>
> >BYTES DOES NOT EQUAL CONTENT! Bytes can add up from poor imaging and
> >HTML coding. Or just a big layout which has more HTML. But you can NOT
> >measure content in bytes, as it is variable.
> >Quality, not Quantity.
>
> And what is your answer for it?
>
Oh, my answer? The amount and the variety of information on the page.
I've said this before in former threads.
> >>> >Try this sentinel:
> >> >Take all the images on your site. Save them without any image reduction
> >> >size, making simple images nearly 50-200 kilobytes. There, now you have
> >> >more content.
> >> >Sorry pete, wrong again.
> >> Now, if we were to download every publically available file (html,
> >> jpg, gif, zip, whatever) stored internally on each website...
> >And? Yah, you'd have the same stuff, just extra bytes and wasted time.
>
> Or a measure of the 2 biggest Prodigy sites, in bytes.
Which is inaccurate. Bytes can measure ascii text and binary code which
is not always content. That's why byte amounts don't matter, they can
add up from poorly reduced images and poor HTML, for example.
> >> Duh! It would be MORE helpful to have the description next to the
> >> link.
> >Try the alt text.
>
> What alt text in the OPC frame? There isn't much of it, it's only used
> 4 times there.
In the former frame with the images...
> >That's even "on" the image. And don't give me this
> >"browsers don't support it" stuff, because even Lynx does, and it
> >doesn't support images!
>
> Just as well I wasn't going to, as I have used Lynx.
When were you using a UNIX based computer?
Everlast
> >Peter Thomas wrote:
> >> Duh! It would be MORE helpful to have the description next to the
> >> link.
> >Hey Pete, before you go on nagging about the left frame on OPC let me just point something out.
> >I've been to OPC a couple of times and I'm yet to use the frame, I mean it's all there on the main
> >page in plain text, all the links on a convenient sitemap.
>
> Now currently without any descriptions for the links, not even in the
> status bar.
Except the top heading and the link it's self.
> >It's been there for as long as I can
> >remember and with that you can just ignore the frame and use the 'back' button on your browser. The
> >frame is just there for those who don't want to back up all the time and for those it's a very good
> >help but the site is very easy to navigate without using the frame.
>
> I've had to click on "writings", "stories", etc, to see what they are.
> Lack of descriptions again.
Well, Pete. It seems you haven't grasped the meanings of stories and
writings.
First off, OPC is a PRODIGY site. The Online Prodigy Center, meaning it
deals with prodigy related info. A writing is a text someone wrote, and
a story is a sequence of events.
Now, lets put the 2 facts up above together... This may seem a little
over your head, but here goes...
in the writings section, there are going to be writings about (SHOCK!
HORROR!) the PRODIGY!
in the stories section, there will be, get ready..., Prodigy related
stories!
Oh man, that was tough.
--
Tomorrow's lesson: History and Links.
Mike Wilson
Like I said, that would be ideal; there are Djs every night, unless the
acts have SPECIFICALLy asked for there not to be. Some concerts are just
Djing, *cough* Van Helden *cough*. I don't remember, I THINK there was
one between Meat Beat and Prodigy, I dunno, it's been over a year. Damn
you all in Europe, with your many concert experiences! I can only feebly
cling to this old one!
I
> know about the 9:30 club, and have looked in to getting tickets for some
> shows, but I missed Prodigy (damn family vacation, damn it to hell!),
> and nothing else too interesting has been there that i've heard about.
NARF?
Nothing???
Hmph.
Deb
(Peter wrote this bit, actually)
> > Bollocks. It is official. See page1.gif
Which shows me a large version of the picture on the
front of The Fat of the Land, with 'melody - chords -
lyrics' added. There is nothing on that cover to indicate
it's official or has anything to do legally with XL or
the Prodigy.
I'm not arguing just for the sake of arguing here, genuinely.
I HAVE official songbooks for a number of other bands.
The lyrics are accurate, they're SPELLED PROPERLY, and
there's a copyright notice for each song.
That 'official songbook' could have been quickly whipped
together by any barely-literate kid with a scanner, and
doesn't merit being used as an authoritative reference
in disputes over lyrics.
Weirdo asks:
> and the url is???
The main directory is:
http://enetwork.future.easyspace.com/files/songbook/
---
Deb
A)bort, R)etry, I)nfluence with large hammer.
deb at radiant dot net
Mike Wilson
It certainly is.
> It is official.
Uh-huh.
>See page1.gif
> Which shows me a large version of the picture on the
> front of The Fat of the Land, with 'melody - chords -
> lyrics' added. There is nothing on that cover to indicate
> it's official or has anything to do legally with XL or
> the Prodigy.
> http://enetwork.future.easyspace.com/files/songbook/
Actually, that's not page1.gif, that's the cover...where is this
page1.gif?
Not that it's going to do any good...'that's some funky shit'...HA HA
HA!
Deb
> > http://enetwork.future.easyspace.com/files/songbook/
>
> Actually, that's not page1.gif, that's the cover...
Well, the directory to get to page 4 and the cover ...
> where is this
> page1.gif?
404 ... seems to have gone to web page heaven ...
>
> Not that it's going to do any good...'that's some funky shit'...HA HA
> HA!
It's some shit, that songbook, I'll say that.
---
Deb
I assume full responsibility for my actions,
except the ones that are someone else's fault.
Everlast
>
> > I'm talking about like clubs with people DJing, not just concerts...
>
> Like I said, that would be ideal; there are Djs every night, unless the
> acts have SPECIFICALLy asked for there not to be. Some concerts are just
> Djing, *cough* Van Helden *cough*.
enough! i concede, i'm not too clued in on the 9:30 club. but a good
hour+ commute to get there just to dance aint worth it, at least imo.
>
> I
> > know about the 9:30 club, and have looked in to getting tickets for some
> > shows, but I missed Prodigy (damn family vacation, damn it to hell!),
> > and nothing else too interesting has been there that i've heard about.
>
> NARF?
> Nothing???
> Hmph.
nothing else too interesting. they're bands i'd like to see there i've
head on hfs, but not enough to haul my ass up to dc and pay for the
ticket.
--
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erik [at] abso.net | http://www.abso.net/ <- AIC
ICQ: 2854684 | http://www.abso.net/prodigy <- Prodigy Site
It's just one of those days when you don't wanna wake up, everything is
fucked, everybody sucks. You don't know why, but you wanna justify by
ripping someone's head off.
It's all about the he says she says bullshit, I think you better quit,
let
that shit slip, or you'll be leaving with a fat lip.
Weirdo
> "Deb" <lo...@the.sig> wrote:
>
> >> http://enetwork.future.easyspace.com/files/songbook/
> >These are supposed to be 'official' lyrics, are they?
> >Not to argue, I'm just checking ... the incredible number
> >of typos and spelling mistakes lead me to believe this
> >is a tad dodgy.
> >"I've got a bad attidude"?
> >You 'red to my face'???
> >I'd like to know where Tobi got these 'official' lyrics from,
> >because this is about as official as Italian 'Music 4 the
> >Voodoo People' book.
> >Not picking on you for this, Peter, as you didn't write
> >the book this is from, but ... no, sorry, this is very far
> >indeed from being 'official sheet music' or anything
> >approaching it.
>
and the url is???
--
Remember: Next time the star of the show, could be YOU!
DJ Swift
wrote:
>> Just as well I wasn't going to, as I have used Lynx.
>When were you using a UNIX based computer?
With his 'cardboard' box ;D
KoLLiDe
> "KoLLiDe" <amn...@networx.net,au> wrote:
>
>
> >Thats why EN is shit
>
> "dont criticise til your perfect"
I tell you I AM!
>
> >> >> "We're going full throttle (Distorted)"
> >> >What's wrong with that?
> >> "(Reversed)" would be more appropriate.
> >did you have to nit pick about stupid little mistakes??
>
> I was asked to point out mistakes. I did exactly that.
it wasnt exactly wrong
the lyrics were still right.
>
> >> >> "Let's jet out, we'll goose at hyperspeed"
> >> >> "Goose here probably means to give a spurt of fuel to (a motor) to
> >> >> increase speed. If you disagree (that is, you think he says cruise
> >> >> instead of
> >> >> goose), please listen more closely, and you will hear it really is
> >> >> goose! "
> >> >What's wrong with that?
> >> LOL! Oh, per-leeeease.
> >can you prove that its wrong?
>
> Have you heard the original sample souce?
nope.
>
> >> Does anyone here honestly think it is "goose"? We covered this on the
> >> newsgroup last month, IIRC.
> >who cares thats what he hears thats what he puts on his page
>
> But it's wrong.
WHO CARES!!!!!
>
> >think of it this way the online prodigy center is made by one person
> >the EN website is made by 10 or somethin, he hasnt really got anyone to
ok
> >it with.
>
> All it takes is simple listening.
But when you were doing ENs lyrics Iyrics page didnt you have anyone to
check it with or to help you with it?
i think so.
>
> >> >> "Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
> >> >> vocals by Keith Flint) "
> >> >What's wrong with that?
> >> Keith Flint only appears on the Sunrise Version.
> >point?
>
> "Fire (Deep voice by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown + Additional
> vocals by Keith Flint) "
What other versions of fire are on there??
>
> >> >> "We gonna rock, mutherfucker
> >> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
> >> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
> >> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, we gonna rock
> >> >> We gonna rock, we gonna rock, motherf***er "
> >> >What's wrong with that?
> >> I'm curious as to why fucker becomes f***er later on.
> >its not a mistake though is it??
>
> A mistake in consistency.
the lyrics are correct.
>
> >> >> "Religion
> >> ><SNIP>
> >> >Those are the lyrics to the original Religion, it's right.
> >> Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
> >to inform prodigy fans on prodigy related things.
>
> Well, the Prodigy remixes are more Prodigy-related.
and these are also related. im sure you'll also find the remix lyrics
somewhere around ther to.
> 0
> >> >> "Zeroes And Ones
> >> >> (Original by Jesus Jones; Remixed by Liam)
> >> >Those are the lyrcs to the original as well...also correct.
> >> Why hasn't that been noted? Why is it on a PRODIGY lyrics page?
> >does it really matter?
> >its still right.
>
> Not quite - the labelling is confusing.
For those which have pea brains.
>
> >its extra info.
>
> So's the bible, but I'm not putting it on EN.
Dont be a fuckhead, just try and understand for once.
think about what people are saying, READ BETWEEN THE LINES as they say.
>
> >> >> "Made In Two Minutes
> >> >> (Original by Bug Kann & The Plastic Jam; Remixed by Liam)
> >> >What's wrong with that?
> >> No notification of what version he is quoting from.
> >not a mistake though
>
> I would call it a mistake to do that.
why?
>
> >> Fair enough, www.prodge.demon.co.uk IS inferior to OPC. I'm going to
> >> take that site down anyway.
> >Do you have even one brain cell??
>
> Are you criticizing me? Hey, don't do that 'til you're perfect. (Your
> logic, not mine.)
I am perfect.
>
> >> Mainly covered by other sites.
> >I'm yet to see a site that has as many sections as OPC
>
> But the content on OPC could be just put into around 10 sections at
> the most. I swear most of those "sections" are just there to fill the
> frame.
that maybe, but thats what makes OPC better it makes it so much easier to
find stuff, theres so much info on OPC that he needs to put links on the
front page for people to find it.
>
> >> I could sell you a few videos of Richard Stilgoe if that's your
> >> preferred type of humour.
> >Or you could just review the page for what info it has
>
> Have done.
Sorry i havnt been to EN lately for some reason its been 404 for a week.
>
> >and leave your personal feelings about sentinel out of it
>
> I've never met the guy. So what personal feelings can I have for him?
the fact that you diss him and his page every chance you get.
>
> >> What, putting descriptions by the links is awfully daft? Hmmm....
> >you could use self explanatory links instead.
>
> Do tell this to Sentinel, who uses :
>
> January 1999
> February 1999
> March 1999, etc...
excuse me?
are you whinging about another site using calander systems in a better way?
>
> >> >Oh well, so what if the EN News is 10000x harder to navigate than
> >> >OPC...
> >> Didn't you get taught the calendar at school then?
> >didnt you get taught the english language at all?
>
> Yes, far better than yourself.
what makes you say that?
>
> >> >> "I'm not gonna waste life being hateful!"
> >> >Yeah, obviously.
> >> A quote from a 'popular' regular's own website. Enjoy the irony.
> >did you get permission to quote that??
>
> Did DJ Swift get permission to quote that??
to quote what?
do quote what you are quoting about someone quoting.
KoLLiDe
KoLLiDe
> "Empyrean" <empy...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >> > "I'm the pain you tasted, well intoxicated "
> >I've always thought the line was:
> >"I'm the *PINT* you tasted, fell intoxicated."
>
> <bangs head on desk>
>
> Almost as stupid as the 'paint' suggestion.
>
> >Both EN and OPC say it's "pain," but I don't really think so...
>
> Silly EN... fancy using the official sheet music!
>
> >Anyone else agree with me?
>
> <sounds of tumbleweed blowing between Peters ears>
it has to be "Im the pain you tasted, well intoxicated"
how can you fall into drunk
you can be well drunk meaning pretty pissed
but fell?
its not like you fall over and bang your drunk.
KoLLiDe