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Slone  
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 More options Jul 20 1998, 3:00 am
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From: "Slone" <sl...@spamsucksclub-internet.fr>
Date: 1998/07/20
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?
    If Disc 2 is dedicated to Mayte, then what's up with Joint 2 Joint and
    the whole "Oh, great, now you think you're my soulmate bit?" I'm sure he
    was probably talking to all the women who came before her, but when I
    was listening to it, I had to make sure that I was still on Disc 2
    'cause I thought there's no way he'd have this on his Mayte Disc. I
    thought that he should have switched the position of Joint 2 Joint and
    La, la, la means I love you, but as always I'm sure there's method to
    his madness.

    Cleopatra

    You know... That's part of the game that unfortunately lays between
man-woman relationship.... The "macho style"... Men have to fake (?) some
despise sometimes, just to make the girl love them more.
    I found it sad and quite stupid. But unfortunately, it works... The
kinder I get with a girl, the weaker her love become. and if I take my
distance, she'll do anything to make me love her...
    That's one of the thing that makes me mad sometimes.
    But, anyway, about Joint 2 Joint, I always felt that if it was dedicated
to Mayte, it was some kind of "macho-syled" joke. Don't you think ?
    SLONE.


 
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From: cranium...@aol.com (CraniumDrm)
Date: 1998/07/20
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?

>Not to show my ignorance, but for others into Rachid, how is
>his name pronounced?  I sometimes wonder if its either RA-kid
>or rau-SHEED.  No jokes about it being unpronouneable or RAFKAP...
>:)  I think I'll end here.

rah-sheed

his real name is Rasheed Ahmad Bell

--me--


 
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John E. Bredehoft  
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From: jbred...@delta1.deltanet.com (John E. Bredehoft)
Date: 1998/07/20
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?
In article <6orrem$5s...@news-1.news.gte.net>,
SH / RT <steve...@gte.net> wrote:

>Prince is the only 1 that could save Michael's Music career.

Nah...the only 1 that could save Michael's music career is Pat Boone.
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John E. Bredehoft  
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From: jbred...@delta1.deltanet.com (John E. Bredehoft)
Date: 1998/07/20
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?
In article <14769-35B15F53-...@newsd-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,

Larry Ellis <Dre-170...@webtv.net> wrote:
>I know about the 2 times Prince has turned down Michael Jackson's
>request to work with him, but it has to be something more than that.

I don't see Prince as a collaborator. That would require giving up
significant control.

Although frankly, I don't picture Jackson collaborating these days
either. Has he worked with anyone as an equal since the days of Paul
McCartney and Mick Jagger?

>It could be simple jealousy on Michael's behalf. I know that his song
>"Bad" was about Prince, but The Artist never retaliated. Or Mike could
>have a secret "thing" for O(+>, he did name his first born Prince! Why?

>Dre

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John E. Bredehoft  
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From: jbred...@delta1.deltanet.com (John E. Bredehoft)
Date: 1998/07/20
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?
In article <1998071918132100.OAA07...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,

EastWestDJ <eastwes...@aol.com> wrote:
>ZLQV...@prodigy.com (Jamie Starr) writes:

>>Saying Prince and Michael Jackson are rivals just doesn't make sense...
>>that's like saying the Chicago Bulls and the Dallas Cowboys are rivals
>>when they're not even in the same sport.

>No doubt today O(+> is in a much different league than Michael Jackson. The
>all-round performer that O(+> is  puts him miles ahead of Michael. But, I feel
>they were in competition in the early to mid 80s. I'd also throw Rick James in
>that competition. All those guys were fighting for the same market, trying to
>outdo each other with their tours, and also attempting to broaden their
>fanbase. I was a fan of all three.

At the time, I perceived the competing three as Prince, Michael Jackson,
and Bruce Springsteen. All had previous significant success in some part of
the market. All had HUGE success in 1984 or so. Rick James didn't really
enter the megastar contest.

>Now, O(+> is still kicking the flava.
>Michael is an artist in exile. And slick Rick has attempted a comeback but
>still holds to the tired credo, "Pimpin' ain't easy baby." Also, I was always
>intrigued that Prince and Michael Jackson seldom appeared together on the music
>award shows in the 80s.

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From: "LisaC." <#lcar...@ix.netcom.com>
Date: 1998/07/20
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?

John E. Bredehoft wrote:

> In article <14769-35B15F53-...@newsd-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> Larry Ellis <Dre-170...@webtv.net> wrote:
> >I know about the 2 times Prince has turned down Michael Jackson's
> >request to work with him, but it has to be something more than that.

> I don't see Prince as a collaborator. That would require giving up
> significant control.

> Although frankly, I don't picture Jackson collaborating these days
> either. Has he worked with anyone as an equal since the days of Paul
> McCartney and Mick Jagger?

Yes.  Kennth "Babyface" Edmonds.  There is a song that's being played on
the
radio here called "Heart on the Line" or something like that.  It sounds
just like Babyface from start to finish. It's an import single.

Lisa


 
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From: thmusik...@aol.com (ThMusikman)
Date: 1998/07/21
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?
>>>>did it raise your eyebrows like it did mine when p said in "style":

        "style don't get married and break the vow in a year"?

                                        dance on....toratora<<<

Not me..  do you know how many people are married for a year and then
divorce???  hell., some people get divorces  in a matter of months..  Robin
Givens  was only married for 24 hours  to some dude. LOL

-Musik


 
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From: YOU <Y...@crap.com>
Date: 1998/07/24
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?
You should all listen to Blood On the Dance Floor by Michael jackson
because there's a song called Superfly Sister that sounds like they
collaborated. There is even one part of the song that you can actually
hear someone who sounds just like Prince about 3/4 of the way through.
If this song isn't by prince (and the liner notes do not emntion him)
then Micheal was ripping off his sound.

 
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From: "JOY!" <joys...@flash.net>
Date: 1998/07/24
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?
but wasn't he excommunicated (kicked out) for doing the video Thriller?  I
believe that they did not approve of him using zombies or something.  I seriously
don't think he follows that religion anymore.  Just think about the whole surgery
things (no blood transfusions allowed) and his baby out of wedlock, and then
marring the mom.
jOY - her two cents since she is up and doesn't know why


 
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From: l21...@aol.com (L21480)
Date: 1998/07/24
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?

>but wasn't he excommunicated (kicked out) for doing the video Thriller?  I
>believe that they did not approve of him using zombies or something.  I
>seriously
>don't think he follows that religion anymore.  Just think about the whole
>surgery
>things (no blood transfusions allowed) and his baby out of wedlock, and then
>marring the mom.
>jOY - her two cents since she is up and doesn't know why

Right. Michael does not practice the religion (neither does Janet. She hasn't
practiced since she's been on her own). The Thriller video was the main cause.
That's also why he has that little warning at the beginning of the Thriller
video.
LDC

 
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John E. Bredehoft  
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From: jbred...@delta1.deltanet.com (John E. Bredehoft)
Date: 1998/07/24
Subject: Re: Why The Rivalry between O(+> & MJJ?
(1) The Jehovah's Witnesses *did* object to Thriller (which is why MJ
added the disclaimer), but Michael left several years after that video's
release.

(2) I think Michael also went door-to-door as an adult, using various
disguises.

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