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golem

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Jan 3, 2003, 11:52:05 AM1/3/03
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New downloads are available at the NPGMC
Soundcheck Nagoya 8 min
Soundcheck Osaka 5.55 min
Soundcheck Tokyo 5.09 min


All are instrumental

Kevin McGregor

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how ya feelin' Tokyo
how ya feelin' Copenhagen

It must be painful for the effin' bootleggers right now!


Rudedog

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> It must be painful for the effin' bootleggers right now!

Not unless Prince starts releasing whole shows it won't. Even then they'll
always make money off other shows.

Rudedog


zawsze

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Jan 3, 2003, 12:20:14 PM1/3/03
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Old news :-)


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Billy

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Jan 3, 2003, 12:21:32 PM1/3/03
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why?

lol, Premium will have these on their newest release by next week!

I can see it now:

Prince "A New Direction In Music"

1) Xhalation
2) Xcogitate
3) Xemplify
4) Xpectation
5) Xotica
6) Xogenous
7) Xpand
8) Xosphere
9) Xpedition
10) Xenophobia (taken direct from Soundboard) <source the ONA Live set>
BONUS TRACKS Live From Soundboard!!!!
11) Copenhagen Soundcheck
12) Nagoya Soundcheck
13) Osaka Soundcheck
14) Tokyo Soundcheck

isn't really hard since all their releases are nothing but CD-R's
They'll end up using Statik's artwork, and slopping on the extra tracks in a
totally different font.

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Richard Dower

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Jan 3, 2003, 1:58:58 PM1/3/03
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"Kevin McGregor" <mcgregor...@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> how ya feelin' Tokyo
> how ya feelin' Copenhagen
>
> It must be painful for the effin' bootleggers right now!

Why?...they will be on bootleg, he can't win unless he releases this stuff
officially.


Richard Dower

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"Billy" <funk...@pfunk.com> wrote in message
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> why?
>
> lol, Premium will have these on their newest release by next week!
>
> I can see it now:
>
> Prince "A New Direction In Music"
>
> 1) Xhalation
> 2) Xcogitate
> 3) Xemplify
> 4) Xpectation
> 5) Xotica
> 6) Xogenous
> 7) Xpand
> 8) Xosphere
> 9) Xpedition
> 10) Xenophobia (taken direct from Soundboard) <source the ONA Live set>
> BONUS TRACKS Live From Soundboard!!!!
> 11) Copenhagen Soundcheck
> 12) Nagoya Soundcheck
> 13) Osaka Soundcheck
> 14) Tokyo Soundcheck
>
> isn't really hard since all their releases are nothing but CD-R's
> They'll end up using Statik's artwork, and slopping on the extra tracks in
a
> totally different font.


Billy...they'll probably steal this idea from you on the latest Premium 1CDR
coming next week from your favourite French bootlegger.

Billy

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Jan 3, 2003, 2:18:28 PM1/3/03
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as long as they spell my name right! and give credit where it's due :o)

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unique

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Jan 3, 2003, 11:32:48 PM1/3/03
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that wont fit on an 80 min cd unless u edit xenophobia down 2 about 6.40 or
whatever, just b4 the breakdown and all the leader follower talking, like
wht i did on my cd, sorted out tokyo next then nagoya, then osaka then a
composite of copenhagen using the longer intro from the original 96kb mp3
and the rest from the higher quality new mp3. and then he posts up empty
room and god knows what else 2morrow! at least what i did makes a full disc
of jazz and the edited xenophobia kicks of my cd making the xenophobia cd
more complete. i also edited out the audience noises on the mp3s, muted in
between the keyboard stabs at the start of xenophobia etc 2 make it sound
less of a live recording and more of a studio peice 2 fit in with the other
trax


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Richard Dower

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"unique" <sp...@some1else.com> wrote in message
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> i also edited out the audience noises on the mp3s, muted in
> between the keyboard stabs at the start of xenophobia etc 2 make it sound
> less of a live recording and more of a studio peice 2 fit in with the
other
> trax

What Xenophobia track?, from Indianapolis?.


unique

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Jan 4, 2003, 7:56:05 AM1/4/03
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yeah from the ep. now he has put up more downloads, ive actually make a new
edit of xenophobia, i think cropped at 6.40m or something like that, there
is a kinda vegas bit b4 the drum break and he starts talking, well it ends
just after the vegas bit, as it ended suddenly i added a ton of reverb and
then faded and added more reverb and it dont sound so abrupt

the i put on the full xpectations, then toyko with the piano bit reversed,
nagoya, osaka, and a composite of copenhagen - the long intro from the old
mp3 spliced with the new mp3 which is at a higher bitrate and sounds
noticeably different. unless ure really paying attention and know where i
made the split its unnoticable really. i edited out the audience applause
on all the live trax so most of them could pass 4 studio trax if u just
stuck the cd on and let it play without really analysing it. also it keeps
the length down 2 a 80.15min disc

so he added empty room, but as its got vocals it dont fit in with the style
of the cd i had already made, so thats cool. originaly b4 the xtra downloads
i put gamillah, instrumental (aka holy river quiet nite mix), we gonna make
it funky, along with full xenophobia and copenhagen

now a download of whole lotta love rock style would b nice, followed by the
accoustic show from the celly...


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Richard Dower

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"unique" <sp...@some1else.com> wrote in message
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> yeah from the ep. now he has put up more downloads, ive actually make a
new
> edit of xenophobia, i think cropped at 6.40m or something like that, there
> is a kinda vegas bit b4 the drum break and he starts talking, well it ends
> just after the vegas bit, as it ended suddenly i added a ton of reverb and
> then faded and added more reverb and it dont sound so abrupt
>
> the i put on the full xpectations, then toyko with the piano bit reversed,

You reversed it back?...the original file is not supposed to be that way, as
you know.


unique

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Jan 4, 2003, 8:27:46 AM1/4/03
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the reversed part i guess is 2 coverup the fact that its been edited, but i
put the piano the correct way round, ie not reversed cuz it sounded more
natural and in fitting with the disc i made. i kept the booms at the start
cuz they were kinda ambient. i cropped out most of the hissing noise, or
rain or whatever the fuck its supposed 2 b. very annoying. its like he took
one of ure remasters and uploaded it


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Richard Dower

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"unique" <sp...@some1else.com> wrote in message
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> the reversed part i guess is 2 coverup the fact that its been edited, but
i
> put the piano the correct way round, ie not reversed cuz it sounded more
> natural and in fitting with the disc i made. i kept the booms at the start
> cuz they were kinda ambient. i cropped out most of the hissing noise, or
> rain or whatever the fuck its supposed 2 b. very annoying.

Thats rain...it's not hiss, that was something added no question, i put all
the music together myself...put them chronological: Tokyo/Osaka/Nagoya. They
are all seemless and flow as if you were listening to a near 20 minute
soundboard soundcheck recording.

Bart Van Hemelen

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Jan 4, 2003, 9:41:30 AM1/4/03
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In the dim and distant past on Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:11:28 -0600, it was
rumoured that "Kevin McGregor" <mcgregor...@qwest.net> spake thus
on the subject of "Re: New Downloads Japan Soundcheck" in
alt.music.prince:

>> New downloads are available at the NPGMC
>> Soundcheck Nagoya 8 min
>> Soundcheck Osaka 5.55 min
>> Soundcheck Tokyo 5.09 min
>>
>> All are instrumental
>
>how ya feelin' Tokyo
>how ya feelin' Copenhagen
>
>It must be painful for the effin' bootleggers right now!

Actually, no. This is simply giving them more source material.

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unique

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Jan 4, 2003, 1:25:45 PM1/4/03
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y would u put the sound of rain on ure bootlegs? 2 tag them? caught at ure
own game mister!

i just found after playing around with the tracks that what i posted earlier
was the better tracklisting in my opinion, but they didnt matter 2 much,
tokyo seemed 2 follow the studio stuff the best, cuz it was mellow and
slower than the 8 min track


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Richard Dower

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"unique" <sp...@some1else.com> wrote in message
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> y would u put the sound of rain on ure bootlegs? 2 tag them? caught at
ure
> own game mister!

Are you drunk (again) ?, i am refering to the NPGMC files and the fact that
some added effect like rain was added as a tag, not that i tagged anything.
And yes...i did not edit that stuff out myself. I pretty much kept the files
intact, save for a few things i did for my own taste and to make my own
disc.


>
> i just found after playing around with the tracks that what i posted
earlier
> was the better tracklisting in my opinion, but they didnt matter 2 much,
> tokyo seemed 2 follow the studio stuff the best, cuz it was mellow and
> slower than the 8 min track

Not it's not...you wanna add live tracks to an album ?, i kept the files
chronological for good reason...the concerts are performed in chronological
order and should be presented as such.

Same as how i will do the Copenhagen files all in sequence.

Russel Bailey

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Jan 4, 2003, 4:36:50 PM1/4/03
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"Bart Van Hemelen" wrote in message

In response to:

> >It must be painful for the effin' bootleggers right now!

> Actually, no. This is simply giving them more source material.

Irrelevant to bootleggers for sabotage purposes.
Premium-rated material for pirates

unique

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"Richard Dower" <richar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "unique" <sp...@some1else.com> wrote in message
> news:av795m$hoc$3...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > y would u put the sound of rain on ure bootlegs? 2 tag them? caught at
> ure
> > own game mister!
>
> Are you drunk (again) ?, i am refering to the NPGMC files and the fact
that
> some added effect like rain was added as a tag, not that i tagged
anything.
> And yes...i did not edit that stuff out myself. I pretty much kept the
files
> intact, save for a few things i did for my own taste and to make my own
> disc.

but ure still the only person who never saw that joke

>
>
> >
> > i just found after playing around with the tracks that what i posted
> earlier
> > was the better tracklisting in my opinion, but they didnt matter 2 much,
> > tokyo seemed 2 follow the studio stuff the best, cuz it was mellow and
> > slower than the 8 min track
>
> Not it's not...you wanna add live tracks to an album ?, i kept the files
> chronological for good reason...the concerts are performed in
chronological
> order and should be presented as such.
>
> Same as how i will do the Copenhagen files all in sequence.

when an artist records an album they rarely sequence it in the exact order
of the way the trax were recorded. artists can spend literally months
decieding the running order of albums. 1 of the main problems with ure sets
and the work is the running order. y sequence trax in a strict chrono order
as opposed 2 a coherent and enjoyable order? 4 example with the work, keep
trax grouped by period but in a way that sounds good. likewise a little
artistic license in compiling a cd can add 2 the listening experience, maybe
removing a few seconds here and there may make the track less "complete",
but if the cd sounds a lot better 4 it, then who is complaining? music is
recorded 2 b listened 2 and enjoyed, thus anything that adds 2 the enjoyment
is good


>
>
>


Richard Dower

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"unique" <sp...@some1else.com> wrote in message
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> 1 of the main problems with ure sets
> and the work is the running order. y sequence trax in a strict chrono
order
> as opposed 2 a coherent and enjoyable order?

My Lib discs were presented in chronological order for a good reason,
according to recording dates, it made more sense to me to do it this
way...and it had never really been done like that before.


unique

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well had ure discs been compiled in chrono order like the work then thats 1
thing yet again, but isnt the point of making a cd that ure gonna listen 2
it? thus shouldnt listenability b more important than trainspotterness?
shouldnt u keep the music truer 2 the originally conceived release ideas?

ure discs r done and dusted so thats all over with, but its something 2 bear
in mind 4 future releases. had the work tracklist been arranged with more
care, it couldve made the work a killer set as opposed 2 a big collection of
outtakes thats a drudge to go thru.


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Richard Dower

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"unique" <sp...@some1else.com> wrote in message
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> well had ure discs been compiled in chrono order like the work then thats
1
> thing yet again, but isnt the point of making a cd that ure gonna listen 2
> it? thus shouldnt listenability b more important than trainspotterness?
> shouldnt u keep the music truer 2 the originally conceived release ideas?


Again...i had my own mind how to do this, i wanted to assemble them in
chronological order as many other outtake boots were songs from different
periods, everyone has a different idea as to how and sequence a disc.

> ure discs r done and dusted so thats all over with, but its something 2
bear
> in mind 4 future releases. had the work tracklist been arranged with more
> care, it couldve made the work a killer set as opposed 2 a big collection
of
> outtakes thats a drudge to go thru.

Why are you refering to a bootleg that has nothing to do with me?, how many
times do i have to say it?, i am talking about my own Lib discs and nothing
else.


unique

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> > well had ure discs been compiled in chrono order like the work then
thats
> 1
> > thing yet again, but isnt the point of making a cd that ure gonna listen
2
> > it? thus shouldnt listenability b more important than trainspotterness?
> > shouldnt u keep the music truer 2 the originally conceived release
ideas?
>
>
> Again...i had my own mind how to do this, i wanted to assemble them in
> chronological order as many other outtake boots were songs from different
> periods, everyone has a different idea as to how and sequence a disc.

but y? 4 what reason would u wanna do this? is keeping strict chrono order
more important than making a cd that u would wanna listen 2?

>
>
>
> > ure discs r done and dusted so thats all over with, but its something 2
> bear
> > in mind 4 future releases. had the work tracklist been arranged with
more
> > care, it couldve made the work a killer set as opposed 2 a big
collection
> of
> > outtakes thats a drudge to go thru.
>
> Why are you refering to a bootleg that has nothing to do with me?, how
many
> times do i have to say it?, i am talking about my own Lib discs and
nothing
> else.

y? cuz im using these discs as a gr8 example of how a fucked up tracklist
order ruined what couldve been a gr8 set of discs. if they ditched the
related artists stuff and the npgmc stuff, except the older stuff, they
couldve made it a killer set. having stuff like the purple rain trax split
over discs really just spoils the flow. this wasnt some quick and cheap
compilation, so they couldve taken a bit more time and thought in2 making it
an enjoyable set 2 listen 2

and i never said u had anything 2 do with this set. its obvious as it has
been cleaned 2 the point of unlistenable no return in some cases, wheras ure
sets have brazillian rain forests overdubbed on top


>
>
>
>


Richard Dower

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"unique" <sp...@some1else.com> wrote in message
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> but y? 4 what reason would u wanna do this? is keeping strict chrono order
> more important than making a cd that u would wanna listen 2?

Two reasons....to do something not really done before on boot or fan CDR,
and second...to have a documentation of studio outtakes following the
sequence they were recorded.

> y? cuz im using these discs as a gr8 example of how a fucked up tracklist
> order ruined what couldve been a gr8 set of discs. if they ditched the
> related artists stuff and the npgmc stuff, except the older stuff, they
> couldve made it a killer set.

They made the creative decisions and decided on the sequence, it made sense
to them and that is how they wanted it.


having stuff like the purple rain trax split
> over discs really just spoils the flow. this wasnt some quick and cheap
> compilation, so they couldve taken a bit more time and thought in2 making
it
> an enjoyable set 2 listen 2

They took over a year and the sequencing of discs went through countless
configurations until they settled upon the final sequence they released and
were happy with.


> and i never said u had anything 2 do with this set. its obvious as it has
> been cleaned 2 the point of unlistenable no return in some cases, wheras
ure
> sets have brazillian rain forests overdubbed on top

Again any dodgy filtering on some, and i stress it's just some, tracks were
things sent to them and they decided to use them.

lol...well then, you can't win. Hiss or filtered to death....maybe it's time
you let some of your high quality stuff out?


unique

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>
> "unique" <sp...@some1else.com> wrote in message
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> > but y? 4 what reason would u wanna do this? is keeping strict chrono
order
> > more important than making a cd that u would wanna listen 2?
>
> Two reasons....to do something not really done before on boot or fan CDR,
> and second...to have a documentation of studio outtakes following the
> sequence they were recorded.

so u would rather have trax on a cd in strict chrono order, rather than an
enjoyable running order, or even in the order the trax were originally
planned 2 b sequenced? and not only that, u thought that the ppl listening 2
ure sets would appreciate ure choice of strict chrono order, rather than an
enjoyable running order?

>
>
>
> > y? cuz im using these discs as a gr8 example of how a fucked up
tracklist
> > order ruined what couldve been a gr8 set of discs. if they ditched the
> > related artists stuff and the npgmc stuff, except the older stuff, they
> > couldve made it a killer set.
>
> They made the creative decisions and decided on the sequence, it made
sense
> to them and that is how they wanted it.

well if that makes sense 2 them 2 go by what they would want as opposed 2
what the consumers would prefer, then they don't appear 2 have very good
business sense. that collection couldve been an essential set 4 newbies and
collectors alike, but they fucked it up completely with the running order.
it was such a dissapointment.

>
>
> having stuff like the purple rain trax split
> > over discs really just spoils the flow. this wasnt some quick and cheap
> > compilation, so they couldve taken a bit more time and thought in2
making
> it
> > an enjoyable set 2 listen 2
>
> They took over a year and the sequencing of discs went through countless
> configurations until they settled upon the final sequence they released
and
> were happy with.
>
>
> > and i never said u had anything 2 do with this set. its obvious as it
has
> > been cleaned 2 the point of unlistenable no return in some cases, wheras
> ure
> > sets have brazillian rain forests overdubbed on top
>
> Again any dodgy filtering on some, and i stress it's just some, tracks
were
> things sent to them and they decided to use them.
>
> lol...well then, you can't win. Hiss or filtered to death....maybe it's
time
> you let some of your high quality stuff out?
>

by all means reduce the hiss, whoever did the noise reduction went overboard


>
>


Richard Dower

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> so u would rather have trax on a cd in strict chrono order, rather than an
> enjoyable running order, or even in the order the trax were originally
> planned 2 b sequenced? and not only that, u thought that the ppl listening
2
> ure sets would appreciate ure choice of strict chrono order, rather than
an
> enjoyable running order?

Define enjoyable?...to my mind everyone has their own idea how to sequence a
disc, thus no matter what order you present tracks in, someone would say it
is not how they would do it.

What you are talking about here is personal prefrence and taste...there is
no set standard as to how songs should be sequenced to be enjoyable,
enjoyable is whatever that person thinks is nice.

So to avoid getting into debates about how things should be sequenced it
made alot more sense to put tracks in chronogical order.

Thus trying to avoid comments and arguments you have presented.

> well if that makes sense 2 them 2 go by what they would want as opposed 2
> what the consumers would prefer, then they don't appear 2 have very good
> business sense.

It is not for you to say what makes good business sense, they have alot more
experience with making bootlegs and presenting stuff then you have. What
they decided upon is what they wanted and what made business sense to them.


that collection couldve been an essential set 4 newbies and
> collectors alike, but they fucked it up completely with the running order.
> it was such a dissapointment.

In your opinion, and i bet if you sequenced the discs someone else would
chime in and say the tracks are presented in a fucked up order...what you
are talking about here is personal prefrence as to how you or other fans
would do things, this has nothing to do with professional bootleggers would
know about their business and know what they wanted to present to consumers.


> by all means reduce the hiss, whoever did the noise reduction went
overboard

Perhaps...and cycle will continue, the hunt goes on for higher quality
material that will not need to be filtered in anyway.

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