For many years over, I have watched your progress. I have stated many times that I would always be with you until the end. I do intend to keep this promise. You must understand clearly that all the messages have now been delivered to you all as a group. Some of you took me up on my offer to communicate with you directly on a personal level. I've noticed a few complaints regarding some of the answers you received. I've also seen complaints regarding my failure to answer questions from some of you. I'll add now, as I will only defend myself this once, if you did not receive answers to the questions you emailed me, it was simply because I never received them. It's that simple. Nobody was omitted from receiving answers to their own personal questions concerning the Enigma.
I'll add to your efforts-in this length, I'll apologize. Please read on as the reason this post is lengthy will be evident.
I made a commitment to guide you all from time to time and wait for the solution to be presented.
For the last time I'll say, If you have doubts and are not interested, then step aside and let others enjoy the thrill of this quest. The Enigma was not meant to cause division between true fans. I've stated since the very beginning that if you were willing to think through this interesting yet intricate problem, a singular reward is offered. It's that simple. The onus is on you to decide what to do with what's been delivered to you. If you are among the unbelievers, please take note. Le me be clear~~~No special diversions were planned to distract you from your efforts. Although a certain amount of planned judgment calls are necessary for you to manage the messages and posts, there is a solution for you skeptics: Faith to make further inroads towards the solution.
I have said many times that I am only the messenger. I claim no ownership to the Enigma other than my obligation to the one(s) that initially dispatched me to begin guiding you in the right direction. The only reason I became your messenger is because I provided a secure method to post the first few messages directed to your newsgroup. I agreed to a much larger obligation over time. I really didn't know how significant the Enigma was until I was privy to the unique plan and reason. I did not design or author the messages I delivered to you. My role has been secondary and will remain that way. I am not the Enigma. Don't focus on my authority in any way. It's not important. Do pay attention to what I've stated to you regarding authentic posts from me. Refer to the information I have provided you to determine if a post from a messenger is authentic. So far this has not been much of an issue, but from time to time I see references to this subject. This is my reply to those inquiries. Now, again my communication with you will become less than ever.
My friends, I bid you farewell for some amount of time. It's my hope to see the solution revealed very soon, but I have learned not to rush things. Some of you have only been involved for a few years or perhaps not that long. There are those that have been here since the beginning in 1994 like myself. It didn't cross my mind that it would take this long to discover the solution. My absence is intended once more to allow you to again regain the amount of faith it will take you to finish your investigation and solve the Enigma. As always, I'll be with you until the solution is known. I read every post and every word written regarding the Enigma that's posted within this medium of communication.
I must again set the tone for you to hear. I directed your attention to certain topics of conversation regarding cm post topic "my leap of faith". I will also direct your attention to the work "cordelia" has done to break the code within all the messages. I would pay a visit to this information online if I were in your shoes. The topics surrounding the numbers and what's been found to be of certain conclusions should be dealt with before any new matters of interest are pursued. Use the key that was given to you to your advantage. I see little interest in this most important object. Take a special interest in the last clue as the meaning lends high hopes of progress. My true interest in each of you as the most beloved of fans is a loyalty indeed unsatisfied. Although you will never know just how much each of you mean to your messenger and how PF in particular feels for each of you as true fans, you now have the ability to present the solution for the most wonderful Enigma ever presented to be solved. Will you be the most valued "true fan" alive? The feelings they have for each of you as loyal fans can not truly be respected until that grand moment when one or many of you presents the solution. In that moment, nobody alive will grasp the celebration that will instill upon you "the master" of your own "New Beginning" and that of the most wonderful band still alive today: PF.
I leave your presence to await the moment the solution is presented. The size and the magnitude of the Enigma depend on me, your messenger, keeping a firm distance until I'm needed for very strong reasons. This is for the good of the Enigma, believe me. If I detect a certain severe loss of direction or deadlock with declared claims to author the solution, I'll again intervene. I will never again post to this NG with the intention of boosting your interest in the Enigma. I understand your skepticism, and I feel your frustration. This the last time I'll say this,,,
The Enigma is very real. Make no mistake. You have front-row seats to the most thrilling events ever to take place surrounding the music industry. As thrilling as they are in concert, nothing can top the events that are currently unfolding before your very eyes. The solution still exists and the reward has yet to be claimed.
> For many years over, I have watched your progress. I have stated many > times that I would always be with you until the end. I do intend to > keep this promise. You must understand clearly that all the messages > have now been delivered to you all as a group. Some of you took me up > on my offer to communicate with you directly on a personal level. I've > noticed a few complaints regarding some of the answers you received. > I've also seen complaints regarding my failure to answer questions > from some of you. I'll add now, as I will only defend myself this > once, if you did not receive answers to the questions you emailed me, > it was simply because I never received them. It's that simple. > Nobody was omitted from receiving answers to their own personal > questions concerning the Enigma.
> I'll add to your efforts-in this length, I'll apologize. Please read > on as the reason this post is lengthy will be evident.
> I made a commitment to guide you all from time to time and wait for > the solution to be presented.
> For the last time I'll say, > If you have doubts and are not interested, then step aside and let > others enjoy the thrill of this quest. The Enigma was not meant to > cause division between true fans. I've stated since the very > beginning that if you were willing to think through this interesting > yet intricate problem, a singular reward is offered. It's that > simple. The onus is on you to decide what to do with what's been > delivered to you. If you are among the unbelievers, please take note. > Le me be clear~~~No special diversions were planned to distract you > from your efforts. Although a certain amount of planned judgment calls > are necessary for you to manage the messages and posts, there is a > solution for you skeptics: Faith to make further inroads towards the > solution.
> I have said many times that I am only the messenger. I claim no > ownership to the Enigma other than my obligation to the one(s) that > initially dispatched me to begin guiding you in the right direction. > The only reason I became your messenger is because I provided a secure > method to post the first few messages directed to your newsgroup. I > agreed to a much larger obligation over time. I really didn't know > how significant the Enigma was until I was privy to the unique plan > and reason. I did not design or author the messages I delivered to > you. My role has been secondary and will remain that way. I am not > the Enigma. Don't focus on my authority in any way. It's not > important. Do pay attention to what I've stated to you regarding > authentic posts from me. Refer to the information I have provided you > to determine if a post from a messenger is authentic. So far this has > not been much of an issue, but from time to time I see references to > this subject. This is my reply to those inquiries. Now, again my > communication with you will become less than ever.
> My friends, I bid you farewell for some amount of time. It's my hope > to see the solution revealed very soon, but I have learned not to rush > things. Some of you have only been involved for a few years or > perhaps not that long. There are those that have been here since the > beginning in 1994 like myself. It didn't cross my mind that it would > take this long to discover the solution. My absence is intended once > more to allow you to again regain the amount of faith it will take you > to finish your investigation and solve the Enigma. As always, I'll be > with you until the solution is known. I read every post and every > word written regarding the Enigma that's posted within this medium of > communication.
> I must again set the tone for you to hear. I directed your attention > to certain topics of conversation regarding cm post topic "my leap of > faith". I will also direct your attention to the work "cordelia" has > done to break the code within all the messages. I would pay a visit > to this information online if I were in your shoes. The topics > surrounding the numbers and what's been found to be of certain > conclusions should be dealt with before any new matters of interest > are pursued. Use the key that was given to you to your advantage. I > see little interest in this most important object. Take a special > interest in the last clue as the meaning lends high hopes of progress. > My true interest in each of you as the most beloved of fans is a > loyalty indeed unsatisfied. Although you will never know just how much > each of you mean to your messenger and how PF in particular feels for > each of you as true fans, you now have the ability to present the > solution for the most wonderful Enigma ever presented to be solved. > Will you be the most valued "true fan" alive? The feelings they have > for each of you as loyal fans can not truly be respected until that > grand moment when one or many of you presents the solution. In that > moment, nobody alive will grasp the celebration that will instill upon > you "the master" of your own "New Beginning" and that of the most > wonderful band still alive today: PF.
> I leave your presence to await the moment the solution is presented. > The size and the magnitude of the Enigma depend on me, your messenger, > keeping a firm distance until I'm needed for very strong reasons. This > is for the good of the Enigma, believe me. If I detect a certain > severe loss of direction or deadlock with declared claims to author > the solution, I'll again intervene. I will never again post to this > NG with the intention of boosting your interest in the Enigma. I > understand your skepticism, and I feel your frustration. This the last > time I'll say this,,,
> The Enigma is very real. Make no mistake. You have front-row seats > to the most thrilling events ever to take place surrounding the music > industry. As thrilling as they are in concert, nothing can top the > events that are currently unfolding before your very eyes. The > solution still exists and the reward has yet to be claimed.
> Best wishes and much luck to you all,
> "Genesis" ~~ ~~~~~
This isn't the first time Genesis has mentioned "Cordelia" and her findings. So what were they anyways? Events are currently unfolding before our very eyes? Then I need new glasses because I don't see anything.
> For many years over, I have watched your progress. I have stated many > times that I would always be with you until the end. I do intend to > keep this promise. You must understand clearly that all the messages > have now been delivered to you all as a group. Some of you took me up > on my offer to communicate with you directly on a personal level. I've > noticed a few complaints regarding some of the answers you received. > I've also seen complaints regarding my failure to answer questions > from some of you. I'll add now, as I will only defend myself this > once, if you did not receive answers to the questions you emailed me, > it was simply because I never received them. It's that simple. > Nobody was omitted from receiving answers to their own personal > questions concerning the Enigma.
> I'll add to your efforts-in this length, I'll apologize. Please read > on as the reason this post is lengthy will be evident.
> I made a commitment to guide you all from time to time and wait for > the solution to be presented.
> For the last time I'll say, > If you have doubts and are not interested, then step aside and let > others enjoy the thrill of this quest. The Enigma was not meant to > cause division between true fans. I've stated since the very > beginning that if you were willing to think through this interesting > yet intricate problem, a singular reward is offered. It's that > simple. The onus is on you to decide what to do with what's been > delivered to you. If you are among the unbelievers, please take note. > Le me be clear~~~No special diversions were planned to distract you > from your efforts. Although a certain amount of planned judgment calls > are necessary for you to manage the messages and posts, there is a > solution for you skeptics: Faith to make further inroads towards the > solution.
> I have said many times that I am only the messenger. I claim no > ownership to the Enigma other than my obligation to the one(s) that > initially dispatched me to begin guiding you in the right direction. > The only reason I became your messenger is because I provided a secure > method to post the first few messages directed to your newsgroup. I > agreed to a much larger obligation over time. I really didn't know > how significant the Enigma was until I was privy to the unique plan > and reason. I did not design or author the messages I delivered to > you. My role has been secondary and will remain that way. I am not > the Enigma. Don't focus on my authority in any way. It's not > important. Do pay attention to what I've stated to you regarding > authentic posts from me. Refer to the information I have provided you > to determine if a post from a messenger is authentic. So far this has > not been much of an issue, but from time to time I see references to > this subject. This is my reply to those inquiries. Now, again my > communication with you will become less than ever.
> My friends, I bid you farewell for some amount of time. It's my hope > to see the solution revealed very soon, but I have learned not to rush > things. Some of you have only been involved for a few years or > perhaps not that long. There are those that have been here since the > beginning in 1994 like myself. It didn't cross my mind that it would > take this long to discover the solution. My absence is intended once > more to allow you to again regain the amount of faith it will take you > to finish your investigation and solve the Enigma. As always, I'll be > with you until the solution is known. I read every post and every > word written regarding the Enigma that's posted within this medium of > communication.
> I must again set the tone for you to hear. I directed your attention > to certain topics of conversation regarding cm post topic "my leap of > faith". I will also direct your attention to the work "cordelia" has > done to break the code within all the messages. I would pay a visit > to this information online if I were in your shoes. The topics > surrounding the numbers and what's been found to be of certain > conclusions should be dealt with before any new matters of interest > are pursued. Use the key that was given to you to your advantage. I > see little interest in this most important object. Take a special > interest in the last clue as the meaning lends high hopes of progress. > My true interest in each of you as the most beloved of fans is a > loyalty indeed unsatisfied. Although you will never know just how much > each of you mean to your messenger and how PF in particular feels for > each of you as true fans, you now have the ability to present the > solution for the most wonderful Enigma ever presented to be solved. > Will you be the most valued "true fan" alive? The feelings they have > for each of you as loyal fans can not truly be respected until that > grand moment when one or many of you presents the solution. In that > moment, nobody alive will grasp the celebration that will instill upon > you "the master" of your own "New Beginning" and that of the most > wonderful band still alive today: PF.
> I leave your presence to await the moment the solution is presented. > The size and the magnitude of the Enigma depend on me, your messenger, > keeping a firm distance until I'm needed for very strong reasons. This > is for the good of the Enigma, believe me. If I detect a certain > severe loss of direction or deadlock with declared claims to author > the solution, I'll again intervene. I will never again post to this > NG with the intention of boosting your interest in the Enigma. I > understand your skepticism, and I feel your frustration. This the last > time I'll say this,,,
> The Enigma is very real. Make no mistake. You have front-row seats > to the most thrilling events ever to take place surrounding the music > industry. As thrilling as they are in concert, nothing can top the > events that are currently unfolding before your very eyes. The > solution still exists and the reward has yet to be claimed.
> For many years over, I have watched your progress. I have stated many > times that I would always be with you until the end. I do intend to > keep this promise. You must understand clearly that all the messages > have now been delivered to you all as a group. Some of you took me up > on my offer to communicate with you directly on a personal level. I've > noticed a few complaints regarding some of the answers you received. > I've also seen complaints regarding my failure to answer questions > from some of you. I'll add now, as I will only defend myself this > once, if you did not receive answers to the questions you emailed me, > it was simply because I never received them. It's that simple. > Nobody was omitted from receiving answers to their own personal > questions concerning the Enigma.
> I'll add to your efforts-in this length, I'll apologize. Please read > on as the reason this post is lengthy will be evident.
> I made a commitment to guide you all from time to time and wait for > the solution to be presented.
> For the last time I'll say, > If you have doubts and are not interested, then step aside and let > others enjoy the thrill of this quest. The Enigma was not meant to > cause division between true fans. I've stated since the very > beginning that if you were willing to think through this interesting > yet intricate problem, a singular reward is offered. It's that > simple. The onus is on you to decide what to do with what's been > delivered to you. If you are among the unbelievers, please take note. > Le me be clear~~~No special diversions were planned to distract you > from your efforts. Although a certain amount of planned judgment calls > are necessary for you to manage the messages and posts, there is a > solution for you skeptics: Faith to make further inroads towards the > solution.
> I have said many times that I am only the messenger. I claim no > ownership to the Enigma other than my obligation to the one(s) that > initially dispatched me to begin guiding you in the right direction. > The only reason I became your messenger is because I provided a secure > method to post the first few messages directed to your newsgroup. I > agreed to a much larger obligation over time. I really didn't know > how significant the Enigma was until I was privy to the unique plan > and reason. I did not design or author the messages I delivered to > you. My role has been secondary and will remain that way. I am not > the Enigma. Don't focus on my authority in any way. It's not > important. Do pay attention to what I've stated to you regarding > authentic posts from me. Refer to the information I have provided you > to determine if a post from a messenger is authentic. So far this has > not been much of an issue, but from time to time I see references to > this subject. This is my reply to those inquiries. Now, again my > communication with you will become less than ever.
> My friends, I bid you farewell for some amount of time. It's my hope > to see the solution revealed very soon, but I have learned not to rush > things. Some of you have only been involved for a few years or > perhaps not that long. There are those that have been here since the > beginning in 1994 like myself. It didn't cross my mind that it would > take this long to discover the solution. My absence is intended once > more to allow you to again regain the amount of faith it will take you > to finish your investigation and solve the Enigma. As always, I'll be > with you until the solution is known. I read every post and every > word written regarding the Enigma that's posted within this medium of > communication.
> I must again set the tone for you to hear. I directed your attention > to certain topics of conversation regarding cm post topic "my leap of > faith". I will also direct your attention to the work "cordelia" has > done to break the code within all the messages. I would pay a visit > to this information online if I were in your shoes. The topics > surrounding the numbers and what's been found to be of certain > conclusions should be dealt with before any new matters of interest > are pursued. Use the key that was given to you to your advantage. I > see little interest in this most important object. Take a special > interest in the last clue as the meaning lends high hopes of progress. > My true interest in each of you as the most beloved of fans is a > loyalty indeed unsatisfied. Although you will never know just how much > each of you mean to your messenger and how PF in particular feels for > each of you as true fans, you now have the ability to present the > solution for the most wonderful Enigma ever presented to be solved. > Will you be the most valued "true fan" alive? The feelings they have > for each of you as loyal fans can not truly be respected until that > grand moment when one or many of you presents the solution. In that > moment, nobody alive will grasp the celebration that will instill upon > you "the master" of your own "New Beginning" and that of the most > wonderful band still alive today: PF.
> I leave your presence to await the moment the solution is presented. > The size and the magnitude of the Enigma depend on me, your messenger, > keeping a firm distance until I'm needed for very strong reasons. This > is for the good of the Enigma, believe me. If I detect a certain > severe loss of direction or deadlock with declared claims to author > the solution, I'll again intervene. I will never again post to this > NG with the intention of boosting your interest in the Enigma. I > understand your skepticism, and I feel your frustration. This the last > time I'll say this,,,
> The Enigma is very real. Make no mistake. You have front-row seats > to the most thrilling events ever to take place surrounding the music > industry. As thrilling as they are in concert, nothing can top the > events that are currently unfolding before your very eyes. The > solution still exists and the reward has yet to be claimed.
You claim I didn't receive answers from you because you never recieved my queries. With all due respect, that is a lie and I will now prove it.
Here is the message I sent you on the day you chose for us to communicate, Saturday Oct 1st 2005, 12:25.
------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:25:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "anthony rodriguez" <a_rod_...@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert Subject: Questions from Anthony To: PubliusGene...@yahoo.com Hello Genesis, I appreciate you giving this opportunity. I look forward to your respnses to these questions. If you are true then your answers will help and enlighten all of us a great deal. Thank You
1. Is PubliusEnigma an imposter?
2. Who is the imposter?
3. What is written on the key?
4. Why is the key so important?
5. Where is Publius located?
6. Is Roger (Syd) Barrett actively involved in the enigma?
7. Who is Publius, and Who is Genesis?
8. What is the location 94' Publius refered to that must be visited?
9. What is the tangible prize?
10. Was the enigma really created by a cryptologist who used to work for the Reagan administration? If not then who created it?
11. What is the meaning and significance of the 11:11?
12. How do we use the Publius and Genesis posts to decipher eachother?
13. How do we know who to trust as a legitimate messenger?
14. Does Pink Floyd want us to solve the enigma?
15. Was the enigma a marketing stunt perpetuated by EMI?
16. Is the enigma made for a specific individual?
17. How old is the enigma?
18. Does the enigma involve extra terestrial life?
19. What is the significance of the mirror/symetry theme?
20. What are the two heads saying to eachother?
21. Who do the heads represent?
21. What do the diffrent symbols of communication between the two heads represent? example: lights, streaks of lights, flags, the church... ect
22. What do the diffrent angles of the heads inside the booklet mean and how do we use them?
23. What is the great significance of the page numbers and how do we use them?
24. What is the significance of the diffrent languages and how do we use them?
25. Why do the boxing gloves have diffrent numbers of laces and why are they reversed?
26. What do the flags and the people on the back cover of the booklet represent?
27. Who is the lady on the disco ball?
28. What is the meaning of the phone call to Charlie at the end of the music?
29. Why was the words Publius Enigma printed on the MLOR booklet and what is the significance of those specific pages?
30. Why is the picture of the observatories featured in the CO artwork?
31. What is the meaning of the symbol known as the "Boatman"
32. If RacEcaR was really Nick Mason, what is the meaning of the two versions of the crop circles?
33. What is the significance of the numbers 52 and 104?
34. What do the sound fx bridges in the songs mean?
35. Why is the newspaper crumpled?
36. What does the clue "If I don't promise you the answers would you go? Do you think that I know something you don't know. " mean and why does 94'Publius use a question mark sometimes and a period other times?
37. How do we use the recipe for a solution?
38.What is the meaning of the clue "Leading the blind while I stared out the steal in your eyes"?
39. Are the coded 94' Publius messeges a mistake or should we study them?
40. What is the enigma about?
41. What is the designed solution?
42. What is "THE MESSAGE"?
43. Is there an ultimate solution, and if so what is it?
44. Who is the master?
45. Who is the soldier running with his child?
46. Is the rot13 encoded post a key to decode the other posts?
47. Does Learning to Fly or any of the rest of AMLoR contain clues to the Enigma?
I know I have doubted you in the past, if you are telling the truth then I am truly sorry. Your answers will be invaluable. Thank you again, I look forward to hearing from you. -Anthony -----------------------------------------------
And to prove that you did indeed receive my list of questions, here is the auto reply I recieved from you shortly after submitting my email. Once again please note the date and time.
------------------------------------------------- Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:25:18 -0700 (PDT) From: publiusgene...@yahoo.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert Subject: Yahoo! Auto Response To: "anthony rodriguez" <a_rod_...@yahoo.com>
~~PUBLIUS ENIGMA~~~
Now, we shall talk. But only for a moment I say,,,I will respond to your questions.
In this auto reply you claim you have INDEED RECEIVED MY QUESTIONS and that YOU WOULD REPLY.
I have yet to receive your response.
I have long questioned your authenticity, and I have long held out that I would keep an open mind and make a genuine effort to solve your ciphers despite the overwhelming evidence suggesting you are a charlotin who is also looking for the answer yourself and is using the researchers as bate to uncover authentic clues regarding the enigma.
And now that you have flat out lied about not receiving my questions I am very tempted to simply write you off all together.
If you are indeed a true messenger as you claim then you understand the importance of the enigma and you understand how much it means to each of us personaly, and further more you understand the value of those few researchers who remain and what they mean to the solution. So I am asking you as a final attempt to understand what place (if any) you hold in this enigma.
Please answer the questions as you promised. If you choose not to then you concede to the fact that you are a liar, for I have provided the evidence which proves that you did indeed receive my communique.
If you are a valid messenger then you will honor your covenant with us.
With respect, a true dedicated researcher -anthony
Original Message:
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On Apr 7, 1:18 am, "Y" <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> No,
> 05:22
> press play and keep pausing and playing till you get to 05:22
> -y
Subtle, but yes... I need to view a higher resolution version now to take a closer look. I won't post a screenshot of this as it is worth the work in locating it.
Let me ask... Does "G-D" as it appears in the lyrics fit in and/or further validate your proposed solution?
> On Apr 7, 1:18 am, "Y" <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > No,
> > 05:22
> > press play and keep pausing and playing till you get to 05:22
> > -y
> Subtle, but yes... I need to view a higher resolution version now to > take a closer look. I won't post a screenshot of this as it is worth > the work in locating it.
> Let me ask... Does "G-D" as it appears in the lyrics fit in and/or > further validate your proposed solution?
> -DS
Okay, scratch that last question...
Is there any ONE solution to meet the expectations of ALL involved? How would this solution be substantiated in a way that would leave no room for further scrutiny? I find your proposal rather insightful and will let it go and do it's thing in my mind and I'll get back to you. I think my final response will be something along the lines of:
> On Apr 7, 1:34 am, "Darkside76" <rob1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > On Apr 7, 1:18 am, "Y" <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > No,
> > > 05:22
> > > press play and keep pausing and playing till you get to 05:22 > > > > -y
> > Subtle, but yes... I need to view a higher resolution version now to > > take a closer look. I won't post a screenshot of this as it is worth > > the work in locating it.
> > Let me ask... Does "G-D" as it appears in the lyrics fit in and/or > > further validate your proposed solution?
> > -DS
> Okay, scratch that last question...
> Is there any ONE solution to meet the expectations of ALL involved? > How would this solution be substantiated in a way that would leave no > room for further scrutiny? I find your proposal rather insightful and > will let it go and do it's thing in my mind and I'll get back to you. > I think my final response will be something along the lines of:
> "Where do we go from here?"
> -DS
I must say I am rather impressed with what you've presented. There are "other" clues that hold true to your solution that have yet to be mentioned and interestingly some from the original Publius messages as well as some left by Genesis. I think a little deductive reasoning is in order, and I am curious as to your thoughts regarding the page numbers as printed in the booklet and how they correlate (directionally) specifically to your solution.
After digging a little on the web, I did find this interesting commentary:
"[C, D, G] unfortunately is not a proper triad based chord and is a perfect example of the zone where the chord symbol system starts to break down"
"t's true that there is no standardization of chord symbols. This fact adds to the ambiguity or misunderstanding of the composer's intention at times during sessions."
"There are times when, at least for me, it's easier to actually read manuscript than chord symbols. For the most part, symbols are pretty clear though.
I remember reading big band charts where the arranger would write every alteration for every chord (with four chords per measure) and it would be so tiring to read. (If the band covered the parts, I would not play and just follow along. They didn't pay me per note or per chord fortunately.)
Yea, C add2, omit3 or no3 ... takes up a lot of real estate. Maybe we need a symbol to indicate a note that is omitted. The minus symbol would not work since it flats a note and would only add to the confusion. I have no suggestions unless everyone can agree on a symbol for omission.
Maybe we could use the * (asterisk) sign to indicate an omission? I"m looking at my computer keyboard and there ain't much there to use. Has this issue been addressed by music publishers?"
"How we should notate Csus2, Cadd9, C9, Dsus, Dsus/C, Gsus, etc. really depends on how we are using the chord -- if it is functioning as a V chord, modified II chord, etc. When I look at chords in a chart I find it most helpful to look at what chords preceed it and what chords follow and only then decide how I am going to think about C-D-G as well as what notes to play or not play from the indicated chord symbol. Music is such a fun game."
This suddenly takes on multiple layers of meaning... personally and musically. The chord system starting to break down in "Cluster One"... fascinating! this would fit the theme of "communication" and I am going to stop right there for now. It is late anyway and this deserves additional time for processing. Thanks for sharing all of this in the manner that you did.
> > > > press play and keep pausing and playing till you get to 05:22 > > > > > -y
> > > Subtle, but yes... I need to view a higher resolution version now to > > > take a closer look. I won't post a screenshot of this as it is worth > > > the work in locating it.
> > > Let me ask... Does "G-D" as it appears in the lyrics fit in and/or > > > further validate your proposed solution?
> > > -DS
> > Okay, scratch that last question...
> > Is there any ONE solution to meet the expectations of ALL involved? > > How would this solution be substantiated in a way that would leave no > > room for further scrutiny? I find your proposal rather insightful and > > will let it go and do it's thing in my mind and I'll get back to you. > > I think my final response will be something along the lines of:
> > "Where do we go from here?"
> > -DS
> I must say I am rather impressed with what you've presented. There are > "other" clues that hold true to your solution that have yet to be > mentioned and interestingly some from the original Publius messages as > well as some left by Genesis. I think a little deductive reasoning is > in order, and I am curious as to your thoughts regarding the page > numbers as printed in the booklet and how they correlate > (directionally) specifically to your solution.
> After digging a little on the web, I did find this interesting > commentary:
> "[C, D, G] unfortunately is not a proper triad based chord and is a > perfect example of the zone where the chord symbol system starts to > break down"
> "t's true that there is no standardization of chord symbols. This fact > adds to the ambiguity or misunderstanding of the composer's intention > at times during sessions."
> "There are times when, at least for me, it's easier to actually read > manuscript than chord symbols. For the most part, symbols are pretty > clear though.
> I remember reading big band charts where the arranger would write > every alteration for every chord (with four chords per measure) and it > would be so tiring to read. (If the band covered the parts, I would > not play and just follow along. They didn't pay me per note or per > chord fortunately.)
> Yea, C add2, omit3 or no3 ... takes up a lot of real estate. Maybe we > need a symbol to indicate a note that is omitted. The minus symbol > would not work since it flats a note and would only add to the > confusion. I have no suggestions unless everyone can agree on a symbol > for omission.
> Maybe we could use the * (asterisk) sign to indicate an omission? I"m > looking at my computer keyboard and there ain't much there to use. > Has this issue been addressed by music publishers?"
> "How we should notate Csus2, Cadd9, C9, Dsus, Dsus/C, Gsus, etc. > really depends on how we are using the chord -- if it is functioning > as a V chord, modified II chord, etc. When I look at chords in a chart > I find it most helpful to look at what chords preceed it and what > chords follow and only then decide how I am going to think about C-D-G > as well as what notes to play or not play from the indicated chord > symbol. Music is such a fun game."
> This suddenly takes on multiple layers of meaning... personally and > musically. The chord system starting to break down in "Cluster One"... > fascinating! this would fit the theme of "communication" and I am > going to stop right there for now. It is late anyway and this deserves > additional time for processing. Thanks for sharing all of this in the > manner that you did.
> Cheers, DS
When the root is not played by a bass player, the listener's brain will still fill in the root without you playing it!
On Apr 6, 12:36 am, "Y" <yanar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> DS,
> do you agree this is the solution ? I never been more certain of > anything.
> -y
After an in depth analysis of what you have presented and further clarification of certain aspects, as late and as tired as I may be, it is now clear to me that you've truly cracked the enigma. Not only does this bring together all of the clues but it yields an interesting (to say the least) new twist that is rather ingenious. I believe you have managed to solve the Enigma once and for all! Once understood in the proper context, there will be little room for doubt or further scrutiny,
It speaks for itself... truly.
After __ years of digging, I had my rusty shovel plated in gold and now hand it over to you. Excellent job!
Let us now see what, if anything, a certain messenger will have to say. Personally, I need no further validation.
Why are so many people still interested in a silly idea from a record company to increase sales of an album from a waning star band? It's all become painfully pompus and pretentious; it has never lead anywhere, never will. Jesus. Read books by David Eddings instead, they are, if only microscopically, more interesting than the enigma bollocks.
Cheers
On 5 Apr, 21:20, "a_rod_777" <a_rod_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You claim I didn't receive answers from you because you never recieved > my queries. With all due respect, that is a lie and I will now prove > it.
> Here is the message I sent you on the day you chose for us to > communicate, Saturday Oct 1st 2005, 12:25.
> ------------------------- > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:25:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: "anthony rodriguez" <a_rod_...@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book > Add Mobile Alert > Subject: Questions from Anthony > To: PubliusGene...@yahoo.com > Hello Genesis, I appreciate you giving this opportunity. I look > forward to your respnses to these questions. If you are true then your > answers will help and enlighten all of us a great deal. Thank You
> 1. Is PubliusEnigma an imposter?
> 2. Who is the imposter?
> 3. What is written on the key?
> 4. Why is the key so important?
> 5. Where is Publius located?
> 6. Is Roger (Syd) Barrett actively involved in the enigma?
> 7. Who is Publius, and Who is Genesis?
> 8. What is the location 94' Publius refered to that must be visited?
> 9. What is the tangible prize?
> 10. Was the enigma really created by a cryptologist who used to work > for the Reagan administration? If not then who created it?
> 11. What is the meaning and significance of the 11:11?
> 12. How do we use the Publius and Genesis posts to decipher > eachother?
> 13. How do we know who to trust as a legitimate messenger?
> 14. Does Pink Floyd want us to solve the enigma?
> 15. Was the enigma a marketing stunt perpetuated by EMI?
> 16. Is the enigma made for a specific individual?
> 17. How old is the enigma?
> 18. Does the enigma involve extra terestrial life?
> 19. What is the significance of the mirror/symetry theme?
> 20. What are the two heads saying to eachother?
> 21. Who do the heads represent?
> 21. What do the diffrent symbols of communication between the two > heads represent? example: lights, streaks of lights, flags, the > church... ect
> 22. What do the diffrent angles of the heads inside the booklet mean > and how do we use them?
> 23. What is the great significance of the page numbers and how do we > use them?
> 24. What is the significance of the diffrent languages and how do we > use them?
> 25. Why do the boxing gloves have diffrent numbers of laces and why > are they reversed?
> 26. What do the flags and the people on the back cover of the booklet > represent?
> 27. Who is the lady on the disco ball?
> 28. What is the meaning of the phone call to Charlie at the end of the > music?
> 29. Why was the words Publius Enigma printed on the MLOR booklet and > what is the significance of those specific pages?
> 30. Why is the picture of the observatories featured in the CO > artwork?
> 31. What is the meaning of the symbol known as the "Boatman"
> 32. If RacEcaR was really Nick Mason, what is the meaning of the two > versions of the crop circles?
> 33. What is the significance of the numbers 52 and 104?
> 34. What do the sound fx bridges in the songs mean?
> 35. Why is the newspaper crumpled?
> 36. What does the clue "If I don't promise you the answers would you > go? > Do you think that I know something you don't know. " > mean and why does 94'Publius use a question mark sometimes and a > period other times?
> 37. How do we use the recipe for a solution?
> 38.What is the meaning of the clue "Leading the blind while I stared > out the steal in your eyes"?
> 39. Are the coded 94' Publius messeges a mistake or should we study > them?
> 40. What is the enigma about?
> 41. What is the designed solution?
> 42. What is "THE MESSAGE"?
> 43. Is there an ultimate solution, and if so what is it?
> 44. Who is the master?
> 45. Who is the soldier running with his child?
> 46. Is the rot13 encoded post a key to decode the other posts?
> 47. Does Learning to Fly or any of the rest of AMLoR contain clues to > the Enigma?
> I know I have doubted you in the past, if you are telling the truth > then I am truly sorry. Your answers will be invaluable. > Thank you again, I look forward to hearing from you. > -Anthony
> Why are so many people still interested in a silly idea from a record > company to increase sales of an album from a waning star band? It's > all become painfully pompus and pretentious; it has never lead > anywhere, never will. Jesus. Read books by David Eddings instead, they > are, if only microscopically, more interesting than the enigma > bollocks.
> Cheers
> On 5 Apr, 21:20, "a_rod_777" <a_rod_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Genesis:
> > You claim I didn't receive answers from you because you never recieved > > my queries. With all due respect, that is a lie and I will now prove > > it.
> > Here is the message I sent you on the day you chose for us to > > communicate, Saturday Oct 1st 2005, 12:25.
> > ------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:25:14 -0700 (PDT) > > From: "anthony rodriguez" <a_rod_...@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book > > Add Mobile Alert > > Subject: Questions from Anthony > > To: PubliusGene...@yahoo.com > > Hello Genesis, I appreciate you giving this opportunity. I look > > forward to your respnses to these questions. If you are true then your > > answers will help and enlighten all of us a great deal. Thank You
> > 1. Is PubliusEnigma an imposter?
> > 2. Who is the imposter?
> > 3. What is written on the key?
> > 4. Why is the key so important?
> > 5. Where is Publius located?
> > 6. Is Roger (Syd) Barrett actively involved in the enigma?
> > 7. Who is Publius, and Who is Genesis?
> > 8. What is the location 94' Publius refered to that must be visited?
> > 9. What is the tangible prize?
> > 10. Was the enigma really created by a cryptologist who used to work > > for the Reagan administration? If not then who created it?
> > 11. What is the meaning and significance of the 11:11?
> > 12. How do we use the Publius and Genesis posts to decipher > > eachother?
> > 13. How do we know who to trust as a legitimate messenger?
> > 14. Does Pink Floyd want us to solve the enigma?
> > 15. Was the enigma a marketing stunt perpetuated by EMI?
> > 16. Is the enigma made for a specific individual?
> > 17. How old is the enigma?
> > 18. Does the enigma involve extra terestrial life?
> > 19. What is the significance of the mirror/symetry theme?
> > 20. What are the two heads saying to eachother?
> > 21. Who do the heads represent?
> > 21. What do the diffrent symbols of communication between the two > > heads represent? example: lights, streaks of lights, flags, the > > church... ect
> > 22. What do the diffrent angles of the heads inside the booklet mean > > and how do we use them?
> > 23. What is the great significance of the page numbers and how do we > > use them?
> > 24. What is the significance of the diffrent languages and how do we > > use them?
> > 25. Why do the boxing gloves have diffrent numbers of laces and why > > are they reversed?
> > 26. What do the flags and the people on the back cover of the booklet > > represent?
> > 27. Who is the lady on the disco ball?
> > 28. What is the meaning of the phone call to Charlie at the end of the > > music?
> > 29. Why was the words Publius Enigma printed on the MLOR booklet and > > what is the significance of those specific pages?
> > 30. Why is the picture of the observatories featured in the CO > > artwork?
> > 31. What is the meaning of the symbol known as the "Boatman"
> > 32. If RacEcaR was really Nick Mason, what is the meaning of the two > > versions of the crop circles?
> > 33. What is the significance of the numbers 52 and 104?
> > 34. What do the sound fx bridges in the songs mean?
> > 35. Why is the newspaper crumpled?
> > 36. What does the clue "If I don't promise you the answers would you > > go? > > Do you think that I know something you don't know. " > > mean and why does 94'Publius use a question mark sometimes and a > > period other times?
> > 37. How do we use the recipe for a solution?
> > 38.What is the meaning of the clue "Leading the blind while I stared > > out the steal in your eyes"?
> > 39. Are the coded 94' Publius messeges a mistake or should we study > > them?
> > 40. What is the enigma about?
> > 41. What is the designed solution?
> > 42. What is "THE MESSAGE"?
> > 43. Is there an ultimate solution, and if so what is it?
> > 44. Who is the master?
> > 45. Who is the soldier running with his child?
> > 46. Is the rot13 encoded post a key to decode the other posts?
> > 47. Does Learning to Fly or any of the rest of AMLoR contain clues to > > the Enigma?
> > I know I have doubted you in the past, if you are telling the truth > > then I am truly sorry. Your answers will be invaluable. > > Thank you again, I look forward to hearing from you. > > -Anthony- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Regarding the Enigma the REAL Douglas Adams said "Its not about me, I can't say anything about it"
I received this from Genesis after my previous post above.
--------------------------------- a_rod_777,
Indeed a mistake has been made. I deeply apologize. Your questions were captured by email but for some reason they ended up in the bulk email box. I have been in a deep panic to find out what went wrong. I'll make a firm remark,,,this was the only mistake that has been made during any post or message since this started,,,that I'm aware of at this point. Careful attention has been made to each and every word posted to the fans of Pink Floyd.
As a token of my mistake and wrongful statement, one of your questions will have a rather special answer given to you. A VERY special answer. This answer will be unique and not given to anyone else. It's up to you to determine which one. To you, I'm sure, it will be evident which one it is. Everyone that emailed questions had almost the same exact questions you requested to have answered. Delicate care was taken when answering everyone's questions.
Let me add, I have taken the necessary steps to have your questions answered. I'm not the person answering your questions. I only deliver the answers and post to the NG from time to time as scheduled by those that sent me. I'm not entirely sure how long this will take to completely answer all of your questions, but it will happen. In fact, it's happening now. I should have your answers soon. I think soon will be no more than 30 days or so. You have very direct questions. Don't be disappointed with some of the answers. Some of your questions can not be answered. Remember, I can't solve the enigma for you. I do expect you will gain valuable information from the answers you do receive. I know one of your answers will be given special attention before it's answered. This answer will help your effort if used carefully. Feel free to share anything you wish with whomever you wish. IF you feel the answers to your questions will benefit others and you're willing to give to others what has been freely given to you, then by all means proceed.
Lastly, if you choose to abort your quest to solve the enigma that's before you, you're the one that looses. Much progress has been made and I really do expect an answer very soon. You see a_rod_77, I'm real. The enigma is real. The prize waiting for you or others is very real. It's value is great. I have said this before. There has always been one enigma from the very start. Things had to change a bit some time ago in order to keep the mystery solid. The previous posts I delivered over the past month are indeed from me. They differ because the coded posts are complete. You will never see posts like that again from me. In fact, communication from me has ended indefinitely. As much as I care for each and everyone of you, my job here has been done. When the enigma is solved, I'll awaken that person(s) with direct contact and instructions on how to proceed.
I've gone way overboard on my email to you. I felt you needed my attention based on the post you left for me at amp-f. You answers will be delivered as soon as they are returned to me for delivery to you. I say to you now a_rod_777,,,Cordelia has yet to receive his/her final answers. Don't feel left out. Certain information has been withheld until the appropriate time.
I wish you good luck and and a fond farewell. Your character has been quiet interesting to follow. I fully intend to see this through until its very end. I only wish I could have the opportunity to meet each and every one of you, but I know that could never happen. I envy your friendship with those involved. My hat's off to your future success. I turn now to the imminent task at hand.
Thank you Genesis for your response and honesty. I appreciate your willingness to admit when a mistake has been made, and it adds quite a bit of credibility to your character in my personal opinion. The fact that you took the time to make this situation right means a great deal to me and renews my hope that you are truly a messenger of the enigma and not just someone seeking attention. Though I still analyze all the clues and evidence surrounding the enigma and pink floyd with extreme scrutiny and logic as well as with my intuitive insights, I have come to no certain conclusions regarding the Genesis messages, the Publius messages, or the clues from the band other than this enigma involves secrets hidden away within the very being of the human race. Secrets that have the potential to change the world and the way we view it along with everything in it if we can learn how to master them.
I feel the surfacing of these secrets into our waking consciousness is directly congruent to astronomical alignments taking place in our solar system, and is a result of the flow of consciousness which has it's origins in the heart of our Glactic Center. Though I have much to learn about the latter part of this statement, this notion holds strong connections to the 11:11 phenomenon that PF seems to be constistantly trying to communicate to us, and thus strengthens my theory that the enigma is not based on the mediums of communication from pink floyd, but that pink floyds mediums of communication are based on these ideals encompassed by the enigma and that the ultimate solution can be found within ancient truths about ourselves and who and what we truly are.I therefore will continue to study your messages. Many of them seem to be communicating something along these lines of thought.
please note that I am always ready to admit I am wrong if I am faced with evidence to the contrary, it is the only way to learn and grow. Therefore none of my ideals are set in stone. One thing I've learned from this world is that those who seek power hold nothing sacred and they will take whatever measures necessary to ensure that they have it and keep it, including lying to us about every aspect of our lives. One must always be willing to accept and face the grim possibility that everything we know and live in this world is a lie.
Even if that is the case, I know one place in the universe where truth still presides. My own heart.
I await your response with the utmost sincerity and respect. If you are truly a messenger of the enigma then it will be brought to light soon enough.
A seeker of truth for the freedom of all mankind. -anthony rodriguez
The REAL Douglas Adams probably knew it for what it was; complete bollocks wasting peoples time. On the other hand, if people are having fun with it, who am I to whine?
> Dear friends, > The Enigma is very real. Make no mistake. You have front-row seats > to the most thrilling events ever to take place surrounding the music > industry. As thrilling as they are in concert, nothing can top the > events that are currently unfolding before your very eyes. The > solution still exists and the reward has yet to be claimed. > "Genesis" ~~ ~~~~~
Yes, yes ... hmmm I wonder when this will be... are we all seeking the price that will come in a near future?
On Apr 10, 8:23 pm, "a_rod_777" <a_rod_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I received this from Genesis after my previous post above. > I've gone way overboard on my email to you. I felt you needed my > attention based on the post you left for me at amp-f. You answers > will be delivered as soon as they are returned to me for delivery to > you. I say to you now a_rod_777,,,Cordelia has yet to receive his/her > final answers. Don't feel left out. Certain information has been > withheld until the appropriate time.
----
I find this comment interesting. Actualy most of the message just has me shaking my head. I wonder how many other mails he has sitting in a bulk email box?
I say to you now Genesis,,, csmcgee has yet to receive his answers.
AND I know Cordelia recieved something, because he showed me.
All of this direct communication with "Genesis" has me confused, this is unlike him and it has me concered for someone who's not known to make "direct contact".
> On Apr 10, 8:23 pm, "a_rod_777" <a_rod_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I received this from Genesis after my previous post above. > > I've gone way overboard on my email to you. I felt you needed my > > attention based on the post you left for me at amp-f. You answers > > will be delivered as soon as they are returned to me for delivery to > > you. I say to you now a_rod_777,,,Cordelia has yet to receive his/her > > final answers. Don't feel left out. Certain information has been > > withheld until the appropriate time.
> ----
> I find this comment interesting. Actualy most of the message just has > me shaking my head. I wonder how many other mails he has sitting in a > bulk email box?
> I say to you now Genesis,,, csmcgee has yet to receive his answers.
> AND I know Cordelia recieved something, because he showed me.
> All of this direct communication with "Genesis" has me confused, this > is unlike him and it has me concered for someone who's not known to > make "direct contact".
> -cm
Wow, Craig you havent' received your reply from Genesis? How many others did he not respond to?.
> Not gonna happen... this shit's been around for something like ten > years. It's like the X Files - ol' Publius is making this stuff up as > he goes.
Hiiii Croaker.... Long time no see..how've you been??? PLEASE sned me an e-mail... I've really missed you. We all have:) Love and (((HUGS))) Kyla%b Still the old Den Mom
>"Croaker" >> Not gonna happen... this shit's been around for something like ten >> years. It's like the X Files - ol' Publius is making this stuff up as >> he goes.
>Hiiii Croaker.... >Long time no see..how've you been??? >PLEASE sned me an e-mail... >I've really missed you. We all have:) >Love >and >(((HUGS))) >Kyla%b >Still the old Den Mom
Heya, Den Ma... things have been.... well, they've been. I don't know if you knew I have a daughter now... Sarah... had to show her psycho mom the door a few years back, tho. I'll email you some piccy's
I lost my mother in May to ovarian cancer. I didn't cope very well... stress, stress, stress! Trapped in a job I hated, I was ripe for a blowup... well, as Christmas approached, it peaked. I was wiping her old computer one night... I'm sure you can guess the feelings that brought out... but I still probably woulda been okay, except after all the crap of dealing with the thoughts that I was deleting a part of my mother, the goddamn thing refused to boot after I got the OS reinstalled... I don't remember a whole lot of what's next... suffice it to say I trashed my kitchen in a drunken rage.
So I got myself some antidepressants and all the stuff that goes with that... I left my job - YEA BABY!!! - I was floating out the door on my last day, and I'm living off part of the inheritance right now. I've been spending a lot of time painting houses and doing easy grunt work like that and just generally getting my head back together.
And THEN.... to top the WHOLE THING OFF....
my %b connection failed to deliver this evening after practically guaranteeing that it would be here!!! ;)
"How've you been." Heh. You asked. <g> Guess alla that came pouring out through the keyboard.... I might even click Send!
Anyway, Bedz and I have been exchanging the occasional email (although he seems to have left the Bedwarmer nic far behind) and I went and got all nostalgic for the ol' AMPF days, so here I am!
