OT: Girl
Sean Owen
beer), but i asked out this girl at the coffeee shop that I've had my eye on
for a while. She said yes. That was cool, but she left a msg on my machine
later on the same tonight, she said she had a boyfriend she's been with for
two years. Doesn't that suck? I wonder what i should say? I go in the
cofffeee shop everyday, man this is akward. Any suggestions?
Cameron O'Connor
man and the reason you asked her is because you thought she was a cool
chick...Be a nice guy, you never know. Her Boyfriend of 2 years if she has one
could be a real dic and might only last 2 more days......
Peace
--Cameron - Who is going to get himself a beer.
oshuns
Sean Owen <sean...@sover.net> wrote in message
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go in, same as normal. when you see her smile big like its no sweat off your
back. just say something like 'i HAD to ask.' and smile, and let it go at
that. dont dwell on it, dont be weird about it....its not really a big deal
or awkward if you dont make it so.
the response was lame but at least you had the guts to try. thats living.
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Cameron O'Connor
to tell him everything there could be a problem.
--Cameron
C-Dawg in the Hizouze
suck?>>>
Not to make light of your situation, but that is referred to (as coined by
Seinfeld) as "The Option" play.
--
CjS "In pain, there is no pain and that's the escape" Henry Rollins
::Sigh::
the happy squid
shattered everybody's illusions by writing--
same thing happened to me one time. the girl invited me to play
tennis, i got her phone number and everything was smooth sailing... i
ask her out and, oops, she has a boyfriend. wtf?
anyway, i just dropped it. if she and her b/f break up, i say move in
for the kill. otherwise, there's really nothing you can do.
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bliss:overdrive
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"I tried posting [on MFC] already, but [I was] banned... so I am left to
posting my thoughts on Combos in alt.fansites.squid..."
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Vin
theyll eventually break up, everyone does, shes just temporarily taken,
of course you could always take her from him, which also works
the happy squid
everybody's illusions by writing--
maybe in canada...
the simple fact of the matter is that you can kick a guy's ass and
take his wallet. you can kick his ass and take his car. but you
*CANNOT* kick his ass and take his g/f. it just doesn't work like
that. good thing too b/c there's always somebody tougher.
i say ride the relationship out and if you have a chance, go for it,
otherwise just let yourself melt into the back ground. in the
meantime, keep getting other women's phone numbers.
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!supersquid
Jason Vigo
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> later on the same tonight, she said she had a boyfriend she's been with for
> two years. Doesn't that suck? I wonder what i should say? I go in the
> cofffeee shop everyday, man this is akward. Any suggestions?
Do yourself a big favor and read this page:
http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/06_Troubleshooting/The_Boyfriend_Problem/borefriend.shtml
Rob Earp
If she has had a boyfriend for two years, she is probably not getting the
attention that she once did and the attention that she craves. I think this
is evident in the fact that she said yes at the coffee shop then
reconsidered and felt guilty and called back later. I say, don't lay off,
but don't keep asking her out. If anything, go to the shop more and be as
cool as you can and talk to her when you are there. Wait a week or two and
ask her again just to do something "as friends," if she says yes, you are
in. I have taken many a girl away from an unappreciative boyfriend.
Rob
Sean Owen
I got a cup of joe after school today, and she didn't appear to be there,
which was sort of cool because i am a wuss about that stuff. I went out
front to smoke a butt, because cigarettes and coffee at the same time are a
blast! And then she comes down the sidewalk with a dolly full of stuff for
the shop, I talked to her and it was totally cool. I told that i was sorry
because i didn't know she had a guy, but that i had to ask (just like one of
you said lol) then she told me it was really cool that i was there and
wasn't going to avoid her b/c of it. She said that she was "really, really
flattered" and that she was sensitive and didn't want to say no and hurt my
fellings that day. Looks like I can atleast have a cool friend out of the
deal.
Peace
oshuns
yay. i love when people take my advice and it works out.
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Paper Cuts Suck
Jason Vigo <jv...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Do yourself a big favor and read this page:
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http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/06_Troubleshooting/The_Boyfriend_Problem/
borefriend.shtml
this is so fucking scary. why don't you boys just be honest?
Yikes!
Sean Owen
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the happy squid
<paperc...@hotmail.com> shattered everybody's illusions by
writing--
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i think most of us are honest.
now as for being "open", that's a different thing altogether.
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Paper Cuts Suck
the happy squid <thecolo...@yahooNOSPAMYOUJERK.com> wrote in message
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this is one explanation i've got to hear. amuse me, squid.
the happy squid
okie, "honest" and "open" are not the same thing, which is why they're
spelled differently. it's okay to be honest w/ your girl. "hey
squid, where did you go last night?" "i was out my friends like i
told you. why would i lie?"
that's being honest (squid never cheats on women).
being open would be "hey [insert girl name here], i know it's only our
first date and we've not even had an appetizer yet, but i've gotta
tell you how bad my last g/f burned me, man, it sucked, i was crying
for weeks and i had nobody, man, NOBODY, none of 'em cared. the bitch
cheated on me and it just sucked."
that's being "open" and that isn't cool. i personally wouldn't tell
my lifestory to anybody ever (b/c even *if* they want to hear it, they
don't have a right to), but i certainly won't share stuff like that w/
her. it's not going to bring anything positive to the relationship.
if they ask a question which i don't mind answering, sure, i'll be
honest, but i'm not going to freely admit info about me, esp stuff
like that.
contrary to popular misconception, a guy is not being "intimate" or
"vulnerable" when he shares all of his sorrows and frustrations w/ his
g/f. he'd be better off sharing positive things, like complimenting
her (not too much) on her hair, sharing the news about his new raise
at work, things like that.
Greg
"the happy squid" <thecolo...@yahooNOSPAMYOUJERK.com> wrote in message
But then you get classified as being a nice guy, and we all know where that
gets ya. My advice? Be a dick. Get laid. Repeat. Any questions?
Jason Vigo
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> I have a DNS problem and can't open that page, bummer sounds funny
Here ya go.
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If she says she has a boyfriend
Don't ever, never, ever ask if she has a boyfriend! Maybe she does,
maybe not - so what, who cares?
Maybe she does, but wants to have a little fun - your prompting about
a possible borefriend will put her off the mood, she'll move on to
another guy and get what she came looking for anyway. Or maybe she
does, but is also pretty curious about you and wouldn't want the
existence of a boyfriend scare you away. She might even be considering
dumping him in favour of you. Once you've extracted that information
from her however, she might just write you off in her mind.
If however she blurts it out without prompting, it still doesn't mean
anything. Maybe she really thought she wanted to scare you away, but
she really didn't know what she was doing:) Take it humorously, be
light-hearted and give her another chance:)
Examples:
HB: Sorry, but I have a boyfriend.
You: *Laughing* Hey, I just met you and you are already telling me
about your problems:)?
ASF: "If I ask her to meet me somewhere and she says "But I have a
boyfriend", I answer with "If he makes you happy, then you could bring
him along." Then I ask, "Does he make you happy?". I decide if I should
follow up based on the response. Most have had some complaints about
him which gives me something that I can work with later and a topic of
discussion."
Maniac High (http://www.pickupguide.com), ASF: "[One reason she might
be saying she has a BF is that] she really does have a BF, likes you,
but doesn't want to feel guilty about cheating on her BF. This is
classical 'chick logic' at work here and is good, because it means you
are on your way to a fuck, even in spite of the BF... Basically this
happens because she thinks that if she tells you about the BF now, she
can relax and let you you fuck her anyways, since it's 'not her fault
now' that she fucked you, because, she *did* tell you about the
boyfriend, and you ignored it, ie. she 'had no choice in the matter.'"
Use this one if the boyfriend comes up for the first time in the
conversation. If she keeps insisting on it, move on to any other
boyfriend smashing-bashing technique described in this guide.
Mystery, ASF:
HER: I have a boyfriend.
ME: That's nice ... so anyway ....
REASONING - ignore the topic and so will she.
Aaron R. Kulkis, ASF:
Her: "I have a boyfriend"
You: "Thats *good* - I'm not really looking for a girlfriend either:)"
Comments by Alphahot1, ASF: "Try to say it as congruently as possible
and with no sarcasm. Now you have put her a little more at ease and
consequently, she will be more open to you. NOW, proceed to SS the fuck
out of her with everything you can hit her with. After about 15 or 20
minutes, you won't have to worry about any boyfriend. Because she will
now want *YOU* to be her boyfriend!! Plain and simple.
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Boyfriend-smashing techniques
by NYC
Whether she has a boyfriend or not is IRRELEVANT... UNTIL you decide
you are going to fuck her. Then you either need to bring him up and
press her for the information where her relationship is lacking OR make
her recall her boyfriend and how good he makes her feel and usurp the
feelings for yourself.
If she injects the boyfriend into the conversation unsolicited, a
simple diversion to whether or not she plans to marry him might be in
rder. I always use it if I decide NOT to bring him up and get her to
talk about him favorably.
Another thing I like to use if she is DEFENSIVELY bringing up her
boyfriend is "so where is he tonight?" If she doesn't have a good
excuse like he is working late because he is a stock trader, I play her
into a "he's cheating on you right now" mentality. Chicks can't stand
that. PLUS they have to carry this with them from now on. I break down
their BELIEF in what their boyfriend TELLS THEM he has to do.
Whether they believe me or not is irrelevant because they don't know
me. All they do know is that they now have an alternative version of
what their man is doing tonight and every night that he is not with
her. After that sinks in, I talk about wasting time and wasting your
life and passing up opportunities to do what you REALLY WANT TO DO just
because of some bullshit you told someone one day, like "I am only
going to fuck you" when they are out doing whatever they want. Then I
bring up chicks that got cheated on and how stupid they felt when they
were telling me about how they got played:)
You can see how it just strings along and breaks their BELIEF in their
man. adding the effects of alcohol, you often get a flirtatious effect
from the chick deciding to "get him back for cheating" when he was at
ork the whole time:)
Use ex-boyfriends: the chick had a BF, but wasn't satisfied with him. I
took her back through a meta-state tour of her ex-boyfriends. The guys
that really turned her on I brought her back to frquently. Basically,
her boyfriend paled in comparison, and she remembered how HORNY she
used to feel with guys and she just doesn't get that with him anymore.
Suddenly, she wants a little kino... shoulder massages, back rubs,
holding her from behind and kissing her neck...
Basically, if she claims a BF and that doesn't make you want to bail
immediately... make her remember past boyfriends... make her remember
that she broke up with them... make her remember that they were better
lovers than her current BF... make her long for guys that she CAN'T
OSSIBLY GET HER HANDS ON but she remembers being in their arms and how
much she wanted to please them and how much she wanted them to touch
and please her. Once she realizes that boyfriends are a passing thing,
she will NOT want to waste the opportunity to get a blessed release
from all the sexual feelings you have just aroused in her... and YOU'RE
IT!:)
the happy squid
shattered everybody's illusions by writing--
>gets ya. My advice? Be a dick. Get laid. Repeat. Any questions?
nah, i disagree. being a dick only gets you laid. if you want to
keep the girl (a lot of girls are worth being w/, a few bad ones ruin
it for the rest of 'em), just keep your cards to your chest. there's
no rush to reveal everything about yourself.
and above all, don't be afraid to say "no" once in a while.
SiR.B
> "vulnerable" when he shares all of his sorrows and frustrations w/ his
> g/f. he'd be better off sharing positive things, like complimenting
> her (not too much) on her hair, sharing the news about his new raise
> at work, things like that.
Duuude! Shallow! You should be able to share everything with your partner,
the way you feel, positive or negative, everything.
Justin, who is speechless, almost.
the happy squid
shattered everybody's illusions by writing--
i agree, you should, but the simple fact of the matter is that you
can't. sad, but true.
SiR.B
partner,
> >the way you feel, positive or negative, everything.
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> >Justin, who is speechless, almost.
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> i agree, you should, but the simple fact of the matter is that you
> can't. sad, but true.
I disagree, but I assume neither of us are married, so lets hear from some
long term happily married couples. The question, is it better to share
everything, or keep conversations to a shallow level "like complimenting her
(not too much) on her hair, sharing the news about his new raise at work,
things like that"?
Justin, who thinks he knows the answer already.
Lastexit99
I could just be paranoid from all the 3rd degree burns I have from
past relationships, but its weird that at one point she says yeah and
then later tells you she has a boyfriend of 2 years. Maybe she
misunderstood your intentions or something, but I find it hard to
believe she forgot about a 2 year relationship.
Having said that don't be a dick. By that I mean, like someone else
said, don't make it awkward. If you wanna wait around that's your
business, but it could also be the worst thing ever. On the other
hand, don't try to break them up either, that's a terrible thing to
do. Karma man, KARMA. He was there first, and you don't want to be
the dick who keep cutting infront of people in the line do you?
Eddie Hill
wrote:
not only that, but you dont' want to train a girl you're going to date
to cheat....
eddie f hill
the happy squid
>past relationships, but its weird that at one point she says yeah and
>then later tells you she has a boyfriend of 2 years. Maybe she
>misunderstood your intentions or something, but I find it hard to
>believe she forgot about a 2 year relationship.
i don't buy it. she had to have known from the get go what he wanted.
women aren't stupid about things like that. a woman can tell if a man
is attracted to her in five seconds.
>Having said that don't be a dick. By that I mean, like someone else
>said, don't make it awkward. If you wanna wait around that's your
>business, but it could also be the worst thing ever. On the other
>hand, don't try to break them up either, that's a terrible thing to
>do. Karma man, KARMA. He was there first, and you don't want to be
>the dick who keep cutting infront of people in the line do you?
i have a low opinion of people who break up relationships. i also
have a low opinion of law students too, so there you go.