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Laurie Hester

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Dec 14, 2002, 11:44:22 PM12/14/02
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Okay, I'm going to give this one more shot.

1. We are going with kelly green Fruit of the Loom heavy cotton shirts.

2. The front will have a logo (if someone will design it within a
week... I am unable to find the original design from last time). Any
artists out there?

3. The back will have lyrics (either one we vote on, or individual ones
if I can find a quote for a decent price)

4. They will be done by the Australian tour, and I will bring them to
the shows if I don't have time to mail.

5. You must pre-pay by January 1. If you want to vote on the design,
you must pay by Dec 20.

6. We need a minimum of 50 shirts ordered. They will be $15 for one or
$25 for two. Since all profits will be donated to charity, many people
have sent more than the required amount, and this is appreciated.

7. If you haven't already ordered, send me your name, address, size, #
of shirts, charity vote, and anything you can do to help (mailing,
artwork, etc)

Questions? Comments?

Laurie

Saerah Bennett

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Dec 15, 2002, 2:21:23 AM12/15/02
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my vote for the quote on the back is "fuck me if i say something you don't
wanna hear"

i guess it could be changed to "kcuf" :>

Saerah
Mama to Eliana Aurora Ruth (April 30, 2002)
*entitlement hipmoo*
"Are we going to the same place? If so, can i come?"
"No!! Not the Tuesday surprise!!"

Laurie Hester

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Dec 15, 2002, 12:37:35 AM12/15/02
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I like Drilling for fear makes the job simple...

Laurie

Eddie Hill

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Dec 15, 2002, 9:56:56 AM12/15/02
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"Saerah Bennett" <anis...@aol.communicate> wrote in message
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> my vote for the quote on the back is "fuck me if i say something you don't
> wanna hear"
>

i'll be voting w/ saerah at the convention.

eddie

Drago

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Dec 15, 2002, 2:03:46 PM12/15/02
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"Saerah Bennett" <anis...@aol.communicate> wrote in message
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> my vote for the quote on the back is "fuck me if i say something you don't
> wanna hear"
>

aye, good choice.......we should dig up the old thread, too........


Laurie Hester

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Dec 15, 2002, 1:09:22 PM12/15/02
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I think Chaim has written down all the old submissions, but we need to
open it up again for new ones.

I nominate:

Drilling for fear makes the job simple

No matter how cold the winter, there's a springtime ahead

Life existed long before greed, balancing the world on its knees.

Love is deep, dig it out, standing in a hole alone.

All the rusted signs we ignore throughout our lives, choosing the shiny
ones instead.

The TV she talks to me, breaking news and building walls, selling me
what I don't need, never knew soap made you taller.

It doesn't hurt when I bleed, but my memories they eat me. I've heard
it all before, so bring it on, cause I'm no victim.

Laurie

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yledbetter

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Dec 15, 2002, 3:47:59 PM12/15/02
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i agree with "fuck me if i say something you don't want to hear." and i can
try to do up a nifty design in photoshop if needed.
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pearlgtr

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Dec 15, 2002, 4:35:50 PM12/15/02
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>my vote for the quote on the back is "fuck me if i say something you don't
>wanna hear"

that's a good one. also "this is such a happening tailpipe of a party"

rock on
chris
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DLM

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Dec 15, 2002, 5:04:49 PM12/15/02
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"pearlgtr" <pear...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >my vote for the quote on the back is "fuck me if i say something you
don't
> >wanna hear"
>
> that's a good one. also "this is such a happening tailpipe of a party"

I like both of those and also nominate:

"Sometimes I burn like a dot on the sun . . . with no one knowing"

--Deb--

Laurie Hester

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Dec 15, 2002, 3:49:07 PM12/15/02
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Please do. That would be great. I encourage multiple people to come up
with an ampj logo, and we could vote.

Laurie Hester

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Dec 15, 2002, 3:49:25 PM12/15/02
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Good one!

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+brad [formerly: random]

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Dec 15, 2002, 5:50:46 PM12/15/02
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i'll go 0ld sk00l and will stick with my previous nomination of "i'm not
trying to make a difference" and "no way" on the front and back.

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sheri

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"+brad [formerly: random]" <em...@address.com> wrote in message
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> i'll go 0ld sk00l and will stick with my previous nomination of "i'm not
> trying to make a difference" and "no way" on the front and back.


ok, mister, i do believe that was MY idea. :P

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Saerah Bennett

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Dec 15, 2002, 11:20:43 PM12/15/02
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>> my vote for the quote on the back is "fuck me if i say something you don't
>> wanna hear"
>>
>
>i'll be voting w/ saerah at the convention.
>eddie

i thought it was appropriate for the NG :>

Laurie Hester

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Dec 15, 2002, 9:43:26 PM12/15/02
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Saerah Bennett wrote:
>
> >> my vote for the quote on the back is "fuck me if i say something you don't
> >> wanna hear"
> >>
> >
> >i'll be voting w/ saerah at the convention.
> >eddie
>
> i thought it was appropriate for the NG :>

lol! Maybe we don't even need to vote!

CT

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Dec 15, 2002, 11:44:38 PM12/15/02
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I second this one. :)

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+brad [formerly: random]

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Dec 16, 2002, 9:07:35 AM12/16/02
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well yeah, but when you came *up* with the idea, i seconded it :)

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FunkyMonk

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Dec 16, 2002, 10:34:24 AM12/16/02
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Laurie Hester <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote in
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I really dig the "fuck me if I say something you don't wanna hear"...
But how I do pay you Laurie, is there an adress somewhere ?!

-Dave

Laurie Hester

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Dec 16, 2002, 8:44:40 AM12/16/02
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Email me. The best way is by paypal to this email address.

Laurie

Drago

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Dec 16, 2002, 5:20:44 PM12/16/02
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I was going to work on a design....I assume it needs to be simple and
monochromatic so it can easily be applied to a tshirt? or what? do we have
any images of the old shirts from last tour? I'm itching to PhotoShop
something......

-=john=-

Eddie Hill

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Dec 16, 2002, 7:14:05 PM12/16/02
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"Drago" <why.yo...@worry.about.it> wrote in message
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take some sort of coporate logo (coke, budweiser, pepsi, whatever) that's
very recognizable and change it to ampj.

eddie

> -=john=-
>
>
>
>


Rai

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Dec 16, 2002, 7:49:47 PM12/16/02
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"Eddie Hill" <eddi...@hotpop.com> wrote

> take some sort of coporate logo (coke, budweiser, pepsi, whatever) that's
> very recognizable and change it to ampj.


Best idea yet. I like.

Also, I'm voting for the "Fuck me if I say something you don't want to hear"
lyric.

"Sometimes I burn like a dot on the sun" is good too (without the "with no
one listening" part added)
Or "You can't keep me hear," which I think is a really good message.
Or "All the rusted signs we ignore throughout our lives" (without the
"choosing the shiny ones instead" part)

The latter three get stronger votes from me because I don't like the idea of
having profanity on the shirt.

I think that the following lyrics on the shirts would preclude me from
actually buying one:
"Drilling for fear makes the job simple" (lame)
"No matter how cold the winter, there's a springtime ahead" (too
upbeat/corny for Riot Act)


"Life existed long before greed, balancing the world on its knees"

(attacking greed is pretty stale as a political tool, I think)
"Love is deep, dig it out, standing in a hole alone" (upbeat and
lovey-dovey)


"The TV she talks to me, breaking news and building walls, selling me what I

don't need, never knew soap made you taller" (obtuse, and verbose)


"It doesn't hurt when I bleed, but my memories they eat me. I've heard it

all before so bring it on, I'm no victim" (similarly obtuse)

--
Rai

"I never end my messages with a damn quote."

Rai

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Dec 16, 2002, 7:56:05 PM12/16/02
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"Rai" <mra...@tir.SPAMSHIELD.com> wrote

> Or "You can't keep me hear,"

Errr ... "You can't keep me HERE"

And on further analysis, I really think that's a *great* lyric to put on the
shirts. It really does sum up a lot about Pearl Jam, PJ fan-dom, and life
in general. It's very kinetic, and I like that.

Drago

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"Eddie Hill" <eddi...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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Front: "I'm feelin' cocky and strong....."

back: "Fuck me if I say something you don't wanna hear from me......"

AND: http://jdrago.netfirms.com/images/logo1j.jpg

I'll work on it more tomorrow.........

-=john=-


Holly Kristine Jones

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Dec 16, 2002, 8:26:45 PM12/16/02
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I would vote for "Kcuf" after the option of writing in our own lyrics.

And I'd definitely vote for "Kcuf" over "fuck." I don't have a problem with
profanity, but some other people do, and I try to respect that to an extent.

And besides, Kcuf is just clever.

HJ

--
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

The reason the Irish are always fighting each other is that they have no
other worthy opponents.

Eddie Hill

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"Drago" <why.yo...@worry.about.it> wrote in message
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good logo choice!!!!!!!!!!!

i likes it. i think it'll look good when it's done.

...i'd take one home w/ me...

eddie

> -=john=-
>
>
>


Dawn

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Dec 16, 2002, 8:52:09 PM12/16/02
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"Drago" <why.yo...@worry.about.it> wrote in message
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i'm not involved in the t-shirt thingee. but i really like the choice of
logo. looks good! and fits the "cocky and strong" statement well. good
work!

- dawn


Jonas

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>
> what about:
>
> can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?
>
> s
>
>
> Rai <mra...@tir.SPAMSHIELD.com> wrote in message
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Holly Kristine Jones

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Dec 16, 2002, 11:07:29 PM12/16/02
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Oh wow. I think that the "Kcuf me" one may have just taken a new favorite
for me.

I've got to go with "This is such a happening tailpipe of a party!" Woo
hoo!

Holly

christyne

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Dec 16, 2002, 11:13:29 PM12/16/02
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:56:05 GMT, "Rai" <mra...@tir.SPAMSHIELD.com>
wrote:

>"Rai" <mra...@tir.SPAMSHIELD.com> wrote
>
>> Or "You can't keep me hear,"
>
>Errr ... "You can't keep me HERE"
>
>And on further analysis, I really think that's a *great* lyric to put on the
>shirts. It really does sum up a lot about Pearl Jam, PJ fan-dom, and life
>in general. It's very kinetic, and I like that.


I'll second that, with fuck me if i say something you don't wanna hear
as a close second, but not the kcuf version.

christyne

Eddie Hill

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Dec 16, 2002, 11:27:17 PM12/16/02
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i could deal w/ the kcuf me one if people couldn't handle the profanity.
but i'm still all for being profane.

eddie

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Holly Kristine Jones

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Dec 16, 2002, 11:40:10 PM12/16/02
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Excellent logo choice.

And with that logo, I'd have to REALLY emphasize the vote for "This is such
a happening tailpipe of a party."

:)

Drago

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"Holly Kristine Jones" <hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Excellent logo choice.
>
> And with that logo, I'd have to REALLY emphasize the vote for "This is
such
> a happening tailpipe of a party."
>
> :)
>
> Holly
>

well, there's nothing saying that the front and back quotes have to be from
the same song............. it's all up to the vote........ we could have
"tailpipe" on the front, but with the Enron/birdie logo, you HAVE to have
"fuck me..." as the back quote...............

-=john=-
(proud of my 1337 photoshopping......)


Drago

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"Eddie Hill" <eddi...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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>
> i could deal w/ the kcuf me one if people couldn't handle the profanity.
> but i'm still all for being profane.
>
> eddie
>

Fuck yeah, we'll fucking swear n' shit if we fuckin want to,
assholes..............

Holly Kristine Jones

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"Drago" <why.yo...@worry.about.it> wrote in message
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Oh, well, okay. I was just worried about Vin's mom taking his shirt away
from him due to the dirty words. Trying to do a public service for the ol'
Vinmeister, since no one else will.

;)

Holly

Vin

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Dec 17, 2002, 1:02:37 AM12/17/02
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>> i could deal w/ the kcuf me one if people couldn't handle the profanity.
>> but i'm still all for being profane.
>>
>> eddie
>>
>
>Fuck yeah, we'll fucking swear n' shit if we fuckin want to,
>assholes..............

FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCK

put that on the back, -classy-

Drago

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I think that Vin is his own mother............


>


Laurie Hester

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Dec 17, 2002, 12:19:33 AM12/17/02
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Simple and monochromatic is best. Two colors might be doable, but I'd
rather the extra dollar per t-shirt go to charity.

Someone (Carl?) or was it you, suggested having just a simple logo on
the front pocket, and the quote on the back.

The old artwork is no longer available. Not even the artist has it.

Laurie Hester

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Dec 17, 2002, 12:20:36 AM12/17/02
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Uh, Rai, you do realize you have to actually *order* a t-shirt to vote
on the design?

Laurie

--

Laurie Hester

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Dec 17, 2002, 12:22:13 AM12/17/02
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Steph, what's that quote from? I don't recognize it!

--

Laurie Hester

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Dec 17, 2002, 12:24:23 AM12/17/02
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You have to pay for each location on the shirt. So if you want 2 or
more quotes (which would be fine), you need to include both in one
place. On the back, we could, for example, agree to have the top 3
quotes...

laurie

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Laurie Hester

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Eddie Hill wrote:
>
> i could deal w/ the kcuf me one if people couldn't handle the profanity.
> but i'm still all for being profane.
>
> eddie

I'm for being profane, too (the old shirts had "premature ejaculation"
on them)... however, I find that I wear my old ampj t-shirts quite
often, and if I do the same with the new one, it might be a slight bit
embarassing to wear it to the grocery store. Besides, "Ckuf me" is
funnier!

Laurie


>
> "Holly Kristine Jones" <hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> > Oh wow. I think that the "Kcuf me" one may have just taken a new favorite
> > for me.
> >
> > I've got to go with "This is such a happening tailpipe of a party!" Woo
> > hoo!
> >
> > Holly
> >
> > --
> >
> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
> >
> > The reason the Irish are always fighting each other is that they have no
> > other worthy opponents.
> >
> >
> >
> >

--

Holly Kristine Jones

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Dec 17, 2002, 2:32:17 AM12/17/02
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<snip ShirtTalk, yo>

Hey Laurie, can we get a vote per shirt?

(Heh, then someone can "stuff the ballot box" by buying 40 shirts, but if
it's all for charity, then the shirts can say "My balls itch" on the back,
and I wouldn't care.)

If so, then I could put in TWO votes for "tailpipe" and I'd feel my
disillusionment from all past elections magically melt away. :)

Holly, just picturing all of the people reading the back of her shirt and
commenting on that quote!

Chaim

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>Subject: EXTREMELY ROUGH COPY!!! Re: TOUR T-SHIRTS!!!!
>From: "Drago" why.yo...@worry.about.it
>Date: Mon, Dec 16, 2002 5:20 PM
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DUDE....

That is great.

The "fuck me" quote NEEDS to be on the front.

HAHA! That is great.

if we DON'T use that logo, I really support the idea of basing it on another
corporate logo...

-Chaim

Laurie Hester

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Holly Kristine Jones wrote:
>
> <snip ShirtTalk, yo>
>
> Hey Laurie, can we get a vote per shirt?
>
> (Heh, then someone can "stuff the ballot box" by buying 40 shirts, but if
> it's all for charity, then the shirts can say "My balls itch" on the back,
> and I wouldn't care.)
>
> If so, then I could put in TWO votes for "tailpipe" and I'd feel my
> disillusionment from all past elections magically melt away. :)
>
> Holly, just picturing all of the people reading the back of her shirt and
> commenting on that quote!

Heh, heh, and maybe we should just give people one vote per dollar
donated...

But I think we'd have room for more than one quote on the back...

Laurie

>
> --
> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>
> The reason the Irish are always fighting each other is that they have no
> other worthy opponents.

--

JohnG

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"Drago" <why.yo...@worry.about.it> wrote in message
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> >
> > take some sort of coporate logo (coke, budweiser, pepsi, whatever)
that's
> > very recognizable and change it to ampj.
> >
> > eddie
> >
>
> Front: "I'm feelin' cocky and strong....."
>
> back: "Fuck me if I say something you don't wanna hear from me......"
>
> AND: http://jdrago.netfirms.com/images/logo1j.jpg
>

Dude, that's pretty cool. Excellent work.

Regards,

John


+brad [formerly: random]

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Dec 17, 2002, 5:06:40 AM12/17/02
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kevin smith (hope i'm right) is GOD :)

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> FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCK


+brad [formerly: random]

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+brad [formerly: random]

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i did not post this twice :/

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Jonas

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1/2 Full

--
Jonas

Don't come over here/
Piss on my gate/
Save it, just keep it off my wave
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Jonas

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Dec 17, 2002, 7:36:37 AM12/17/02
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First, "oshuns" nominated :

> > > can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?
Then Laurie asked:

> > Steph, what's that quote from? I don't recognize it!
Jonas, in a bleary-eyed state of half-wakefulness, opined:
> 1/2 Full

But it's actually from Green Disease:
"No white or black, just gray, can you feel this/
World with your heart and not your brain"

Never post before you fully wake up. :-(
--
Jonas

Don't come over here/
Piss on my gate/
Save it, just keep it off my wave

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>
> --
> Jonas
>
> Don't come over here/
> Piss on my gate/
> Save it, just keep it off my wave
> "Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> >

> > Jonas wrote:
> > >
> > > b-o-u-n-c-e
> > > "oshuns" <osh...@info-internet.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3dfe9b7f_4@aeinews....
> > > >
> > > > what about:
> > > >
> > > > >

Eddie Hill

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multiple quotes would look stupid, i think

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Eddie Hill

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"Holly Kristine Jones" <hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> <snip ShirtTalk, yo>
>
> Hey Laurie, can we get a vote per shirt?
>
> (Heh, then someone can "stuff the ballot box" by buying 40 shirts, but if
> it's all for charity, then the shirts can say "My balls itch" on the back,
> and I wouldn't care.)
>
> If so, then I could put in TWO votes for "tailpipe" and I'd feel my
> disillusionment from all past elections magically melt away. :)
>
> Holly, just picturing all of the people reading the back of her shirt and
> commenting on that quote!
>

i don't get that quote...

eddie

Holly Kristine Jones

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"oshuns" <osh...@info-internet.net> wrote in message

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>
> Laurie Hester <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote in message

> news:3DFEB485...@rcn.com...


> > Steph, what's that quote from? I don't recognize it!
>

> its the end of green disease. and its awesome.
>
> s

Laurie Hester

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Does it make you wanna buy one?

Drago

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>
> multiple quotes would look stupid, i think
>
agreed


Drago

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"Chaim" <cupin...@aol.coma> wrote in message
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hmmmmm........my feeling now is "fuck me" on the back, "cocky and strong" on
the front, but that's what democracy is for......

-=john=-

JohnG

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"Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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>
> Does it make you wanna buy one?
>

When the inmates in here decide on a logo and quote, I would be happy to buy
a couple(one for my chick, of course) if it's for charity. I don't want to
get involved in the voting for the quote because that looks like it's going
to be contentious and I like all the choices anyway..

[Disclaimer alert] However, if I buy a shirt from you, the fact that you
got me a Pearl Jam shirt cannot be used against me in a future argument. Me
buying a shirt doesn't offer you any future entitlements.

Regards,

John


Laurie Hester

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Of course not!

sheri

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>
> "Holly Kristine Jones" <hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:YPxL9.28916$6z5....@news.bellsouth.net...
> > Excellent logo choice.
> >
> > And with that logo, I'd have to REALLY emphasize the vote for "This is
> such
> > a happening tailpipe of a party."
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Holly
> >
>
> well, there's nothing saying that the front and back quotes have to be
from
> the same song............. it's all up to the vote........ we could have
> "tailpipe" on the front, but with the Enron/birdie logo, you HAVE to have
> "fuck me..." as the back quote...............
>
> -=john=-
> (proud of my 1337 photoshopping......)


as you should be. nice logo. :)


--
sheri


Rai

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"Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote

> Uh, Rai, you do realize you have to actually *order* a t-shirt to vote
> on the design?


I understand why you want to do this ... to lock in buyers and make sure
you're not screwed in the end.

But here's my issue ... the first AMPJ shirt doesn't sit well with me. The
baby blue color (horrifying, who the fuck had that idea?!?!), the logo, even
some of the stuff on the back just made me think "Wow, lame." So I'm
concerned about locking myself in to a shirt that I've never seen.

And I think that's a smart choice (considering I'm really broke ... not just
cheap). I liked the Enron take yesterday, but I looked at it again just now
and realized that I'm not a fan. I feel that it's very possible (especially
since there's a lot of people here voting who have, to put it politely, not
so hot taste -- or, to put it unpolitely, have an embarassingly egregious
sense of style) that I'll end up opening up my little package and having the
same sense of naseau that I had when I looked at the first AMPJ shirt.

Ya heard?

sheri

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"Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> JohnG wrote:
> >
> > "Drago" <why.yo...@worry.about.it> wrote in message
> > news:6ZuL9.6320$jh2.1...@twister.columbus.rr.com...
> > > >
> > > > take some sort of coporate logo (coke, budweiser, pepsi, whatever)
> > that's
> > > > very recognizable and change it to ampj.
> > > >
> > > > eddie
> > > >
> > >
> > > Front: "I'm feelin' cocky and strong....."
> > >
> > > back: "Fuck me if I say something you don't wanna hear from me......"
> > >
> > > AND: http://jdrago.netfirms.com/images/logo1j.jpg
> > >
> >
> > Dude, that's pretty cool. Excellent work.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John
>
> Does it make you wanna buy one?


i was going to buy one, but i dunno about kelly green. i know it's your
choice and all and i may get one anyway for the contribution to charity, but
i want it known that i don't like kelly green.

i don't suppose there could be a vote for tee color, huh? maybe give 3
choices and majority rules? just a thought.

--
sheri


sheri

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> well yeah, but when you came *up* with the idea, i seconded it :)


uh huh, that's what i thought. :P

--
sheri

> --
> [read about how crap i am : http://callmebetty.blogspot.com]
> [onetwothreefour at iprimus dot com dot au]
> --
>
>

> "sheri" <nois...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:T1bL9.3197$jN4.3...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > ok, mister, i do believe that was MY idea. :P
>
>
>
>


+brad [formerly: random]

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"Rai" <mra...@tir.SPAMSHIELD.com> wrote in message
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> I understand why you want to do this ... to lock in buyers and make sure
> you're not screwed in the end.
>
> But here's my issue ... the first AMPJ shirt doesn't sit well with me.
The
> baby blue color (horrifying, who the fuck had that idea?!?!), the logo,
even
> some of the stuff on the back just made me think "Wow, lame." So I'm
> concerned about locking myself in to a shirt that I've never seen.
>
> And I think that's a smart choice (considering I'm really broke ... not
just
> cheap). I liked the Enron take yesterday, but I looked at it again just
now
> and realized that I'm not a fan. I feel that it's very possible
(especially
> since there's a lot of people here voting who have, to put it politely,
not
> so hot taste -- or, to put it unpolitely, have an embarassingly egregious
> sense of style) that I'll end up opening up my little package and having
the
> same sense of naseau that I had when I looked at the first AMPJ shirt.
>
> Ya heard?

i tend to agree, but i've already paid, and i'd rather commit, cos otherwise
they probably won't get done at all!

Lisa Kavanaugh

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>From: "sheri" nois...@earthlink.net

>i don't suppose there could be a vote for tee color, huh? maybe give 3
>choices and majority rules? just a thought.
>
>--
>sheri

I have to say kelly green wouldn't be my first choice either.

Lisa

Holly Kristine Jones

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"Rai" <mra...@tir.SPAMSHIELD.com> wrote in message
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> But here's my issue ... the first AMPJ shirt doesn't sit well with me.
The

I've got to chime in with Rai a little bit here.

Generally, I don't so much care about the color of the shirt or the logo,
and to an extent I don't care what ends up on the back. However, I do have
to say that I'm going to be a little disappointed if the shirt ends up
saying "fuck" on it. Now, I don't have a problem with "fuck." I think
"fuck" is a superb word. But the people around me and my boyfriend, the
receipient of the other shirt I ordered, aren't so into it. And I don't
want to pay $25 for something that I can't wear without considering who I
may or may not see that day.

Some people just don't like the word "fuck," and I try to respect that. And
it's easy enough for me not to *say* it, but when I'm wearing it, that's a
different story.

So I don't want to put in some kind of "contractual provisions," but the
only reason I haven't immediately paypal-ed my money to Laurie is because
I'm trying to get a feel for whether this shirt is going to say "fuck" or
not.

Holly, sorry to be un-fun, but I want to be able to wear my shirt in public,
where I may see professors, employers, family friends, etc.

Holly Kristine Jones

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Bounce from Queen Steph!

"oshuns" <osh...@info-internet.net> wrote in message

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>
> Holly Kristine Jones <hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

> news:vTOL9.38729$6z5....@news.bellsouth.net...

> to chime in too, i find the fascination with ed saying fuck a little
> immature, even if most of it is in jest because its sexy or cool or fun.
> when a crowd cheers every time a singer swears....its a little cheesy to
me.
> just cuz he said fuck doesnt mean we all have to get beavis and butthead
on
> each other and print it on a tshirt.
>
> in the context of the song, its a wicked lyric. noone loves a well placed
> fuck more than me, lyrically, in speech, and well...otherwise too. (HAHA,
> did i say that?) nothing conveys everything you feel sometimes more than
> FUCK!...but taken away from the song and slapped on a tshirt...not so
much.
>
> i think 'im not leaving here' is a more fitting save you quote for a
tshirt
> commemorating the newsgroup addicts we are.
>
> s
>
>
> >
> >
> >
>
>

+brad [formerly: random]

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"Holly Kristine Jones" <hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> I've got to chime in with Rai a little bit here.
>
> Generally, I don't so much care about the color of the shirt or the logo,
> and to an extent I don't care what ends up on the back. However, I do
have
> to say that I'm going to be a little disappointed if the shirt ends up
> saying "fuck" on it. Now, I don't have a problem with "fuck." I think
> "fuck" is a superb word. But the people around me and my boyfriend, the
> receipient of the other shirt I ordered, aren't so into it. And I don't
> want to pay $25 for something that I can't wear without considering who I
> may or may not see that day.
>
> Some people just don't like the word "fuck," and I try to respect that.
And
> it's easy enough for me not to *say* it, but when I'm wearing it, that's a
> different story.
>
> So I don't want to put in some kind of "contractual provisions," but the
> only reason I haven't immediately paypal-ed my money to Laurie is because
> I'm trying to get a feel for whether this shirt is going to say "fuck" or
> not.
>
> Holly, sorry to be un-fun, but I want to be able to wear my shirt in
public,
> where I may see professors, employers, family friends, etc.

*cries* i'm the TOTAL opposite of this; i honestly think a shirt saying
"Kcuf" would just be lame. not that i want "fuck" just for the hell of it
(i'd rather have the line from no way), but if it came to that, i'd be
pretty damn pissed about "Kcuf". oh well, i guess that's what voting's for.

sheri

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"Holly Kristine Jones" <hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>


i agree. fuck is a great word. very effective and a word i use often, but i
would want to be able to wear the shirt at places other than shows.

--
sheri


Drago

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"Lisa Kavanaugh" <momo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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What's Kelly green as compared to a forest green or an olive green?

If the quote voting wasn't solidified before, I don't think the color should
be either.

I -do- think that we need to have a quote and a color by the end of this
week though, so as not to drag the whole thing on ad nauseaum.

The logo should be done by tomorrow evening, I'm out to see The Two Towers
here an hour so.

-=john=-


Laurie Hester

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Rai wrote:
>
> "Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote
>
> > Uh, Rai, you do realize you have to actually *order* a t-shirt to vote
> > on the design?
>
> I understand why you want to do this ... to lock in buyers and make sure
> you're not screwed in the end.
>
> But here's my issue ... the first AMPJ shirt doesn't sit well with me. The
> baby blue color (horrifying, who the fuck had that idea?!?!), the logo, even
> some of the stuff on the back just made me think "Wow, lame." So I'm
> concerned about locking myself in to a shirt that I've never seen.

Heh, heh. Well, I didn't like the design so much, either...

>
> And I think that's a smart choice (considering I'm really broke ... not just
> cheap). I liked the Enron take yesterday, but I looked at it again just now
> and realized that I'm not a fan. I feel that it's very possible (especially
> since there's a lot of people here voting who have, to put it politely, not
> so hot taste -- or, to put it unpolitely, have an embarassingly egregious
> sense of style) that I'll end up opening up my little package and having the
> same sense of naseau that I had when I looked at the first AMPJ shirt.
>
> Ya heard?

But the whole idea is based on having a way to identify one another at
concerts. I know we now have pictures, but it's sometimes hard to pick
out faces in a crowd. The t-shirts make it easy. But I hear ya.

Laurie Hester

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Oh, and also, anyone who doesn't like the design we end up with, can get
a full refund. It's just that last time, we got about 500 votes on the
design the first time we did it, and only about 100 people ended up
paying for the shirt. I see no reason why those buying the shirts
should have to abide by the opinions of those not buying, which is why
the no vote unless you pay rule.

Laurie

--

Laurie Hester

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Sure, but I thought we had all agreed on green previously...

Holly Kristine Jones

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"+brad [formerly: random]" <em...@address.com> wrote in message
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> *cries* i'm the TOTAL opposite of this; i honestly think a shirt saying
> "Kcuf" would just be lame. not that i want "fuck" just for the hell of it

Actually, you aren't the *total* opposite. I could think of a million
things I'd rather have on the shirt than either Kcuf or fuck, but if the
numbers came down to "fuck," I'd have to vote for "kcuf" so I could wear the
shirt more than once every two years or so.

Did that make sense? I think it did. Either way, I want the tailpipe
party, dammit.

Holly

:)

Holly Kristine Jones

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> What's Kelly green as compared to a forest green or an olive green?
Pardon my HTML for a minute.
 
I *think* that kelly green is just that Irishy St. Patrick's Day green. 
 
I think it looks like THIS.
 
Holly

+brad [formerly: random]

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"Holly Kristine Jones" <hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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well, confused me. but that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. anyway, i
want the "no way" quote. and btw...who was it that designed the logo - hate
to be a bitch, but i don't like it. (note: i don't like the *logo*, not the
actual work that you've done on it). how about the mobil logo, or even a
mcdonalds thing? there's plenty of logos and fonts for corporatations
floating around out there. i'd personally love to try, but my photoshop
skillz are not so l33t. :/

DLM

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"Drago" <why.yo...@worry.about.it> wrote in message
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> What's Kelly green as compared to a forest green or an olive green?

If we get to choose, I definitely nominate forest green over kelly.

--Deb--


sheri

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"Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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oh, ok. maybe it was and i missed it. again, i know it's enough of a pain to
organize the logo and quote so if color has already been decided, so be it.

--
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+brad [formerly: random]

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wouldn't that be olive? :)

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Holly Kristine Jones

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"+brad [formerly: random]" <em...@address.com> wrote in message
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>>wouldn't that be olive? :)

Or maybe it's "fern."

:-P

Laurie Hester

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Yes, that was my point as well. I tell you what, if that lyric gets
chosen, let's deal with it then. The place I'm looking at doesn't
charge extra for making up the screens, but there are minimums. Maybe
we can do something like have half the people with fuck and half with
kcuf.

Laurie Hester

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Dec 17, 2002, 6:21:32 PM12/17/02
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Let's wait until the logo is done, and then I'll suggest a number of
available colors which will go with it and we can vote. We can always
resort to black...

Laurie

--

Rai

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"Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote

> Oh, and also, anyone who doesn't like the design we end up with, can get
> a full refund. It's just that last time, we got about 500 votes on the
> design the first time we did it, and only about 100 people ended up
> paying for the shirt. I see no reason why those buying the shirts
> should have to abide by the opinions of those not buying, which is why
> the no vote unless you pay rule.


Ok ... that sweetens the deal a little more. However, I think I would feel
a little guilty backing out of the deal just because I didn't agree with the
shirt. Because, ultimately, you're right that the premise of owning the
AMPJ shirt is based on community ... and I can't really shirk the fact that
I'm part of a community that has bad taste. ;)

I don't know, it's a conundrum that I'm certain I'll solve within the next
couple hours.

Rai

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"oshuns" <osh...@info-internet.net> wrote

> i think 'im not leaving here' is a more fitting save you quote for a
tshirt
> commemorating the newsgroup addicts we are.


Dude, that's a *great* quote.

And here's the problem ... I proposed that one, but I don't think anyone
likes it. The quotes in the lead right now don't sit well with me and I
don't know that I want the shirt if my election forecasts predict that it's
going to say something I don't like.

Rai

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"Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote

> Sure, but I thought we had all agreed on green previously...


Really??

Maybe a deep hunter green. Not kelly green ... that's bad.

I'd prefer black. Or grey. Those are two colors on a t-shirt that are
really difficult to fuck up.

Rai

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"+brad [formerly: random]" <em...@address.com> wrote in message news:atohct$17pm6$1...@ID-148993.news.dfncis.de...
 
> wouldn't that be olive? :)
 
>> I think it looks like THIS.
 
 
 
 
 
Kelly green is gay on shirts because it always ends up on the middle end of that spectrum ... a kind of light, washed-out looking pastel green.  You end up looking like a big fat lime.
The one next to it (BPI Sun Green -- which is pretty close to a deep hunter) is a good green for clothing.

Holtz

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Laurie Hester wrote:

>
> > > Front: "I'm feelin' cocky and strong....."
> > >
> > > back: "Fuck me if I say something you don't wanna hear from me......"
> > >
> > > AND: http://jdrago.netfirms.com/images/logo1j.jpg
> > >

> Does it make you wanna buy one?
>

> --
> Laurie

I'd buy one if its like that, when is the deadline for sending money in?

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Laurie Hester

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I hope this works. These are the choices for Fruit of the Loom:

http://www.companycasuals.com/catalog-servlets/CustomBrowser?customer=triplej&id=493&parentId=624

and these are the choices for Hanes:

http://www.companycasuals.com/catalog-servlets/CustomBrowser?customer=triplej&id=497&parentId=624

I kind of like the stonewashed green.


Holly Kristine Jones wrote:
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Drago

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"Holly Kristine Jones" <hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>


what about kcuf?


Laurie Hester

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1. We are going with kelly green Fruit of the Loom heavy cotton shirts.

2. The front will have a logo (if someone will design it within a
week... I am unable to find the original design from last time). Any
artists out there?

3. The back will have lyrics (either one we vote on, or individual ones
if I can find a quote for a decent price)

4. They will be done by the Australian tour, and I will bring them to
the shows if I don't have time to mail.

5. You must pre-pay by January 1. If you want to vote on the design,
you must pay by Dec 20.

6. We need a minimum of 50 shirts ordered. They will be $15 for one or
$25 for two. Since all profits will be donated to charity, many people
have sent more than the required amount, and this is appreciated.

7. If you haven't already ordered, send me your name, address, size, #
of shirts, charity vote, and anything you can do to help (mailing,
artwork, etc)

--

+brad [formerly: random]

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"Rai" <mra...@tir.SPAMSHIELD.com> wrote in message
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> "oshuns" <osh...@info-internet.net> wrote
>
> > i think 'im not leaving here' is a more fitting save you quote for a
> tshirt
> > commemorating the newsgroup addicts we are.
>
>
> Dude, that's a *great* quote.
>
> And here's the problem ... I proposed that one, but I don't think anyone
> likes it. The quotes in the lead right now don't sit well with me and I
> don't know that I want the shirt if my election forecasts predict that
it's
> going to say something I don't like.

i like it more than the "happening tailpipe" quote. and definitely better
than "kcuf". but not better than "no way" :)

Holly Kristine Jones

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"Drago" <why.yo...@worry.about.it> wrote in message
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>
> "Holly Kristine Jones" <hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:vTOL9.38729$6z5....@news.bellsouth.net...
> >
>
>
> what about kcuf?

See my other post on this. :) I've no real problem with kcuf, although
others do. But that's democracy. :)

Holly

Lisa Kavanaugh

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Dec 17, 2002, 9:40:52 PM12/17/02
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>From: "Holly Kristine Jones" hjo...@bellsouth.net

>Holly, sorry to be un-fun, but I want to be able to wear my shirt in public,
>where I may see professors, employers, family friends, etc.

As the mother of a 9 year old and a 7 year old, I have to agree. I would only
be able to wear it to the concert and no place else. That would be a bummer.

Lisa

sheri

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Dec 17, 2002, 9:43:31 PM12/17/02
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"Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> I hope this works. These are the choices for Fruit of the Loom:
>
>
http://www.companycasuals.com/catalog-servlets/CustomBrowser?customer=triple
j&id=493&parentId=624
>
> and these are the choices for Hanes:
>
>
http://www.companycasuals.com/catalog-servlets/CustomBrowser?customer=triple
j&id=497&parentId=624
>
> I kind of like the stonewashed green.


yeah, that's a really nice color.

--
sheri


Lisa Kavanaugh

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Dec 17, 2002, 9:46:15 PM12/17/02
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>From: "Holly Kristine Jones" hjo...@bellsouth.net

>Pardon my HTML for a minute.
>
>I *think* that kelly green is just that Irishy St. Patrick's Day green. =


>
>
>I think it looks like THIS.

I don't get colors with my newsgroups posts...but yeah, I always associate
Kelly green with St. Patricks Day.

Lisa

Lisa Kavanaugh

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Dec 17, 2002, 9:54:09 PM12/17/02
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>From: Laurie Hester laurie...@rcn.com

>I kind of like the stonewashed green.

I like that too. I also like the stonewashed blue.

Lisa

Jonas

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"oshuns" <osh...@info-internet.net> wrote in message
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> Rai <mra...@tir.SPAMSHIELD.com> wrote in message
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> > "Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote
> >
> > > Sure, but I thought we had all agreed on green previously...
> >
> >
> > Really??
> >
> > Maybe a deep hunter green. Not kelly green ... that's bad.
> >
> > I'd prefer black. Or grey. Those are two colors on a t-shirt that are
> > really difficult to fuck up.
>
> i love white lettering on a grey t-shirt.
>
> rai, we have taste.
>
> =P
>
> s

+brad [formerly: random]

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> b-o-u-n-c-e
> "oshuns" <osh...@info-internet.net> wrote in message
> news:3e000142_4@aeinews....
> >
> > Rai <mra...@tir.SPAMSHIELD.com> wrote in message
> > news:viQL9.38017$4W1....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> > > "Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote
> > >
> > > > Sure, but I thought we had all agreed on green previously...
> > >
> > >
> > > Really??
> > >
> > > Maybe a deep hunter green. Not kelly green ... that's bad.
> > >
> > > I'd prefer black. Or grey. Those are two colors on a t-shirt that
are
> > > really difficult to fuck up.
> >
> > i love white lettering on a grey t-shirt.
> >
> > rai, we have taste.

god, i always get counted out of these things. i have taste too, just call
me mr. style. or something. or not.

Mirella

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Dec 18, 2002, 7:57:19 AM12/18/02
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:04:39 -0600, "Holly Kristine Jones"
<hjo...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>So I don't want to put in some kind of "contractual provisions," but the
>only reason I haven't immediately paypal-ed my money to Laurie is because
>I'm trying to get a feel for whether this shirt is going to say "fuck" or
>not.
>

>Holly, sorry to be un-fun, but I want to be able to wear my shirt in public,
>where I may see professors, employers, family friends, etc.

This makes me think about a Iggy Pop T-shirt i have. It says 'fuck' in
big bold letters on the back. There is a version of that shirt without
the 'fuck'. That looks like censorship to me.

groetjes,
Mirella :)

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<http://pearljam.start4all.com> (International)<http://pearljam.startkabel.nl> (Nederlands)

Mirella

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Dec 18, 2002, 7:59:14 AM12/18/02
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:38:59 GMT, "Rai" <mra...@tir.SPAMSHIELD.com>
wrote:

>"Laurie Hester" <laurie...@rcn.com> wrote
>
>> Uh, Rai, you do realize you have to actually *order* a t-shirt to vote
>> on the design?
>
>
>I understand why you want to do this ... to lock in buyers and make sure
>you're not screwed in the end.


>
>But here's my issue ... the first AMPJ shirt doesn't sit well with me. The

>baby blue color (horrifying, who the fuck had that idea?!?!), the logo, even
>some of the stuff on the back just made me think "Wow, lame." So I'm
>concerned about locking myself in to a shirt that I've never seen.

I love that shirt. The color is perfect for hot summer days and
everytime I see those quotes, it makes me giggle :)

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