You're the one Sept 29 in Holland
Rob Oudshoorn
released on September 29th !
Also a 'huge' (!) marketing programm to promote the album will be launched
on the Dutch TV Channels.
Although they offer the old albums as well, there's no sign of 'Remasters'
yet.
Also no mentioning of a supporting cd-single so far
Rob Oudshoorn
Seven
the album or the single here in Germany yet.No mentioning anywhere...
Well, I guess people are too occupied waiting for the new Big Brother season -
they can't wait to amuse themselves to death...
Strange, they play the new Spice Girls single on MTV months before its
release, tehy talk about the new Madonna album...But not a single word on
Paul!
Rob Oudshoorn schrieb:
Nicolas
not 1st Nov.) and the album: 3rd Oct.
Nicolas
Paul Simon on your phone via WAP:
"WAPAUL, The Long Distance Call"
www.tagtag.com/wapaul (not a WEB site!)
Seven <SMR-S...@t-online.de> a écrit dans le message :
39C25480...@t-online.de...
Who Me
>not 1st Nov.) and the album: 3rd Oct.
It is Paris that will be the site of the recording for the December PBS
concert. Specific air date not yet know...
Bill
"Television is not the truth. Television is a goddamn amusement park"
-- Howard Beale
jmi...@my-deja.com
ago), but that shouldn't bother you, should it? Or are you still
looking to other people for validation of your feelings? Forget them
and just enjoy the fact that a new Simon album is on its way. (As an
aside, I don't share this group's excitement about the coming album,
but I'm smart enough to realize it doesn't matter a damn what other
people think and/or feel.) -Jeanne
> In article <39C25480...@t-online.de>,
> Seven <SMR-S...@t-online.de> wrote:
>Will this be the German release date as well? I haven't heard
*anything* about
> the album or the single here in Germany yet.No mentioning anywhere...
> Well, I guess people are too occupied waiting for the new Big Brother
season -
> they can't wait to amuse themselves to death...
> Strange, they play the new Spice Girls single on MTV months before its
> release, tehy talk about the new Madonna album...But not a single
word on
> Paul!
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Seven
and if you have a problem with that, well, I don't care.
jmi...@my-deja.com schrieb:
jmi...@my-deja.com
frequently abbreviated, "IMO")? -Jeanne
In article <39C35A61...@t-online.de>,
Seven <SMR-S...@t-online.de> wrote:
> No one needs to validate my feelings, I'm just expressing my humble
opinion
> and if you have a problem with that, well, I don't care.
>
> jmi...@my-deja.com schrieb:
>
Seven
everyone is just expressing his/her opinion here, I thought it would be
clear that I was doing the same...But there are obviously people who think
that I'm just keen of getting attention...
Oh sorry, I forgot something: That was just MHO.
jmi...@my-deja.com schrieb:
> Then why don't you write, "In my humble opinion" (or, as it's so
> frequently abbreviated, "IMO")? -Jeanne
>
> In article <39C35A61...@t-online.de>,
> Seven <SMR-S...@t-online.de> wrote:
> > No one needs to validate my feelings, I'm just expressing my humble
> opinion
> > and if you have a problem with that, well, I don't care.
> >
> > jmi...@my-deja.com schrieb:
> >
Gerard Eastwood
<jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8puf3e$69q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Face the facts, Miriam, Paul Simon isn't the draw he once was (years
> ago), but that shouldn't bother you, should it? Or are you still
> looking to other people for validation of your feelings? Forget them
> and just enjoy the fact that a new Simon album is on its way.
I agree with some of what you say. Paul Simon as a drawcard now is not the
same as 20 years ago and the selling success of his upcoming album is not a
certainty (may not even be likely). That doesn't change my view of him as
the premier Singer-songwriter of the past 30 plus years. The chart success
shouldn't change others views either.
I don't think that there will be a single that will make an impact on the
charts. That hasn't happened for 15 to 20 years. His likely market is not
likely to buy a CD single anyway.
> (As an
> aside, I don't share this group's excitement about the coming album,
> but I'm smart enough to realize it doesn't matter a damn what other
> people think and/or feel.) -Jeanne
>
Jeanne, why do you say you don't share others excitement about the coming
album? Are you saying that you are not looking forward to his new work or
have concerns that they will measure up to your expectations based on past
work. For me an impending new album of new songs is a very exciting
prospect. And I will make my own judgements about them regardless of what
else i read by so-called critics. And no doubt it will take me a good 6
months to truly put these songs in perspective compared to his existing
catalogue of work. It will take me that long to get over having a new album
of songs to listen to.
Gerard
Nicolas
Gerard Eastwood <East...@xtra.co.nz> a écrit dans le message :
oi0x5.1001$WSlb.2...@news.xtra.co.nz...
> I agree with some of what you say. Paul Simon as a drawcard now is not
the
> same as 20 years ago and the selling success of his upcoming album is not
a
> certainty (may not even be likely).
I just wondered how many people go to his concerts just to hear SOS? A lot I
guess, at least in Paris. During Art's concerts there, 90% didn't know most
of what he sang but all sang with him SOS. That's not a critic toward them,
just something I noticed. How many singers are able to bring people to a
concert just for one song?
I don't know how it is in other countries but I'm afraid in France Paul is
known for few songs he made during S&G. Answer on 30 and 31 of Oct.
Simon Murgatroyd
released Graceland, and look what happened next. I remember walking around
London and everywhere you went you could hear his music being played - it
was extraordinary.
Maybe it will be like that again.
Simon
"Gerard Eastwood" <East...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:oi0x5.1001$WSlb.2...@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> <jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8puf3e$69q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > Face the facts, Miriam, Paul Simon isn't the draw he once was (years
> > ago), but that shouldn't bother you, should it? Or are you still
> > looking to other people for validation of your feelings? Forget them
> > and just enjoy the fact that a new Simon album is on its way.
>
> I agree with some of what you say. Paul Simon as a drawcard now is not
the
> same as 20 years ago and the selling success of his upcoming album is not
a
> certainty (may not even be likely). That doesn't change my view of him as
> the premier Singer-songwriter of the past 30 plus years. The chart
success
> shouldn't change others views either.
>
> I don't think that there will be a single that will make an impact on the
> charts. That hasn't happened for 15 to 20 years. His likely market is
not
> likely to buy a CD single anyway.
>
> > (As an
> > aside, I don't share this group's excitement about the coming album,
> > but I'm smart enough to realize it doesn't matter a damn what other
> > people think and/or feel.) -Jeanne
> >
>
Who Me
>certainty (may not even be likely).
Depends on how you define "success." Do you define it in "Hearts and Bones"
terms? That album sold quite a few copies, but in the context of Paul Simon
albums, it was a "flop."
jmi...@my-deja.com
"Gerard Eastwood" <East...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> <jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8puf3e$69q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > ago), but that shouldn't bother you, should it? Or are you still
> > looking to other people for validation of your feelings? Forget
them
> > and just enjoy the fact that a new Simon album is on its way.
>
not the
not a
> certainty (may not even be likely). That doesn't change my view of
him as
> the premier Singer-songwriter of the past 30 plus years. The chart
success
> shouldn't change others views either.
>
> I don't think that there will be a single that will make an impact on
the
> charts. That hasn't happened for 15 to 20 years. His likely market
is not
> likely to buy a CD single anyway.
>
I don't disagree with that at all.
> > (As an
> > aside, I don't share this group's excitement about the coming album,
> > but I'm smart enough to realize it doesn't matter a damn what other
> > people think and/or feel.) -Jeanne
> >
>
> Jeanne, why do you say you don't share others excitement about the
coming
> album? Are you saying that you are not looking forward to his new
work or
> have concerns that they will measure up to your expectations based on
past
> work. For me an impending new album of new songs is a very exciting
> prospect. And I will make my own judgements about them regardless of
what
> else i read by so-called critics. And no doubt it will take me a
good 6
> months to truly put these songs in perspective compared to his
existing
> catalogue of work. It will take me that long to get over having a
new album
> of songs to listen to.
>
> Gerard
It's not how he does with the critics, nor how the songs compare to his
past work; neither of those two things matter to me. One of my
problems is that I kind of parted ways with Paul many, many years ago.
His lyrics became inaccessible to me, which, again, doesn't mean that I
don't admire and deeply respect him as a songwriter/singer; it simply
means he's moved beyond me. I much prefer Art's solo material, but
that's a personal choice, and I fully understand how others might not
agree with it. Which leads to my second problem, which is this
newsgroup. I find the scarcasm and the stating of 'opinions', without
noting them as such, very disturbing, and I find I must constantly
remind myself that the members of this newsgroup who are guilty of
such, are NOT truly representative of Paul's fans, but sometimes it's
really difficult and my 'worst' self breaks through. -Jeanne
Cathy Friedmann
> Which leads to my second problem, which is this
> newsgroup. I find the scarcasm and the stating of 'opinions', without
> noting them as such, very disturbing, and I find I must constantly
> remind myself that the members of this newsgroup who are guilty of
> such, are NOT truly representative of Paul's fans, but sometimes it's
> really difficult and my 'worst' self breaks through. -Jeanne
Gee, I find this ng to be one of the easiest-going & most cohesive ones I've
subscribed to. (And I'm not being sarcastic, or even facetious.)
Whenever a person makes a comment about Paul's (or Art's) work on amps, I
automatically assume it's that person's opinion. If I make a comment, I
don't usually feel compelled on this ng to add "IMO"; on some other ngs I
*do* feel compelled to do that, since factual info could possibly get
confused w/ opinion, & be of consequence.
Personally (IMO!), I bet the people here, although varied, *are*
representative of Paul's fans.
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
Joey Berger
wrote:
><jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8q2uah$tpu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>> Which leads to my second problem, which is this
>> newsgroup. I find the scarcasm and the stating of 'opinions', without
>> noting them as such, very disturbing, and I find I must constantly
>> remind myself that the members of this newsgroup who are guilty of
>> such, are NOT truly representative of Paul's fans, but sometimes it's
>> really difficult and my 'worst' self breaks through. -Jeanne
>
>Gee, I find this ng to be one of the easiest-going & most cohesive ones I've
>subscribed to. (And I'm not being sarcastic, or even facetious.)
>
>Whenever a person makes a comment about Paul's (or Art's) work on amps, I
>automatically assume it's that person's opinion. If I make a comment, I
>don't usually feel compelled on this ng to add "IMO"; on some other ngs I
>*do* feel compelled to do that, since factual info could possibly get
>confused w/ opinion, & be of consequence.
Exactly - who else's opinion would it be? Most of the time, adding IMO
is simply redundant.
>
>Personally (IMO!), I bet the people here, although varied, *are*
>representative of Paul's fans.
>
>Cathy
Joey Berger
pa...@simon.org
icq:14315467 AOLim: simondmb
Lasers In The Jungle: http://paul.simon.org
jmi...@my-deja.com
> >If I make a comment, I
> >don't usually feel compelled on this ng to add "IMO"; on some other
ngs I
> >*do* feel compelled to do that, since factual info could possibly get
> >confused w/ opinion, & be of consequence.
>
> Exactly - who else's opinion would it be? Most of the time, adding IMO
> is simply redundant.
I must have a thin skin, then, which is fine, I can live with that;
and, Joey, I take it, that's YOUR humble opinion above? (Trying to
make a smiley face, but not having much success!) -Jeanne
>
> >Cathy
>
> Joey Berger
> pa...@simon.org
> icq:14315467 AOLim: simondmb
> Lasers In The Jungle: http://paul.simon.org
>
Loops
>newsgroup. I find the scarcasm and the stating of 'opinions', without
>noting them as such, very disturbing, and I find I must constantly
>remind myself that the members of this newsgroup who are guilty of
>such, are NOT truly representative of Paul's fans,
I have to agree with Cathy when she says this is one of, if not THE friendliest
and easiest-going newsgroups around. Why someone would post the above comment
is entirely beyond me.
The comment about not being excited about Pauls new album also leaves me
speechless...
Joey Berger
>
>> >If I make a comment, I
>> >don't usually feel compelled on this ng to add "IMO"; on some other
>ngs I
>> >*do* feel compelled to do that, since factual info could possibly get
>> >confused w/ opinion, & be of consequence.
>>
>> Exactly - who else's opinion would it be? Most of the time, adding IMO
>> is simply redundant.
>
>I must have a thin skin, then, which is fine, I can live with that;
>and, Joey, I take it, that's YOUR humble opinion above? (Trying to
>make a smiley face, but not having much success!) -Jeanne
ExACTly
>
>>
>> >Cathy
>>
>> Joey Berger
>> pa...@simon.org
>> icq:14315467 AOLim: simondmb
>> Lasers In The Jungle: http://paul.simon.org
>>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Joey Berger
jmi...@my-deja.com
kidl...@aol.combat.spam (Loops) wrote:
The facts that 1). you're speechless about my not being excited over
Paul's new album, and 2). you think this is one of the friendliest
newsgroups, simply attests to the fact that you can't allow for and
accept other people's perceptions. And please remember, I specifically
said "...WHO ARE GUILTY OF SUCH", which clearly does NOT include all
members of this newsgroup. But I can't help feeling we're kinder,
gentler, and more accepting of other people's perceptions and OPINIONS,
when stated as such, over on the AG website. And before you can tell
me to get myself over there, I'm going. -Jeanne
Cathy Friedmann
what you consider "kinder & gentler", etc., well, then... I'm really
perplexed.
Btw - I didn't realize that there is an AG ng; my news service must not
carry it.
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
<jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8q3m92$nuj$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
SNUMBER6
IYO ...
>Most of the time, adding IMO
>is simply redundant.
IMO ...
Just to confuse things more ... :-)
In the Village ....
I am not a number ... I am a free man !!!!
Cathy Friedmann
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
Pierce Inverarity <clea...@w.a.s.t.e.com> wrote in message
news:vmtassgfa49rve1ds...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 00:54:56 GMT, "Cathy Friedmann" <c...@borg.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Btw - I didn't realize that there is an AG ng; my news service must not
> >carry it.
>
> The website. http://www.artgarfunkel.com
> I suspect she's the page designer or summat.
> --
> Pierce Inverarity
> clea...@nonespecified.cjb.net
>
> v1.2a s+r>d TW 1/0/r tinG 2? 0 WYWH/Meddle 12 39 6.4% <20oct99>
Gerard Eastwood
Simon Murgatroyd <simon.mu...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:8q2g1d$fmv$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com...
> The interest level in Paul Simon seems to me about that just before he
> released Graceland, and look what happened next. I remember walking around
> London and everywhere you went you could hear his music being played - it
> was extraordinary.
>
> Maybe it will be like that again.
>
It would be a great thrill if that was so. part of me would like to beleive
that is possible, but part of me doesn't think that will happen.
I also remember the interest level of that album and that time. Graceland
was a huge victory for Paul Simon, the quality of the material shone through
the negativity of "this artist who's time should have passed". Having been
a fan from 1972 when he had 3 commerically and artistically successful solo
album (on top of the S & G years) and then seen him discarded as a has been,
I took great personal delight in the extent of the comeback that was
Graceland. I felt that his music was being introduced to a whole new
generation who maybe didn't know that the 1960's and 1970's work even
existed prior to that. Not even the red herring of the aparthied
controversy could deny the widespread acceptance of that work on it's own
merits.
Gerard
Gerard Eastwood
opinion. It is not my mothers, or my wife's, or my son's or my daughters.
I also wish to make it clear that I accept no liability from anyone who
relies on my comments as being undisputable fact. I also make the
observation that I have always assumed that every other view I read here is
just that - the personal observation or opinion of the sender. I gladly
read others opinions even if I don't agree. " I hear what I want to hear
and disregard the rest". I assume others do the same.
<jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8q2uah$tpu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> It's not how he does with the critics, nor how the songs compare to his
> past work; neither of those two things matter to me. One of my
> problems is that I kind of parted ways with Paul many, many years ago.
> His lyrics became inaccessible to me, which, again, doesn't mean that I
> don't admire and deeply respect him as a songwriter/singer; it simply
> means he's moved beyond me. I much prefer Art's solo material, but
> that's a personal choice, and I fully understand how others might not
> agree with it.
I have heard before that opinion of Paul's work (lyric's) being inaccessible
and that nothing since can match what went before under the name of S & G.
i sense that is a very common view (especially of people who grew to admire
the S & G years and could n't understand how they could call it quits). I
feel that a number of people simply closed their ears to his work from that
time on, without Artie's sweet voice to soften the message.
I understand that is probably so, but it does irritate me that some
excellent work (much of it superior to pre 1972 work IMHO) has not acheived
acceptance on terms similar to the S & G years work.
As for being inaccessible, I view much of Paul Simon work much like looking
at impressionist art work. It needs the added ingredient of an interested
(and patiently so) listener to truly come to life. Then it really becomes
very satisfying and interesting over many years as lifes experiences unfold.
Rene & Georgette Magritte is a classic example. What a stunning song
written in an impressionistic style (and interestingly sparked by a photo of
a renown impressionist artist). I would love to see a music video catch
the magic of that song in the same way that was done with the Boy in the
Bubble (but then again would it match my imagination - in black and
white?).
I continue to find little gems in many songs that I have long since thought
I knew all about. that is the magic of paul simon's songwriting talent.
As for Artie's solo work, I find some of the songs covered to be stunningly
beautiful, but I don't find any of his albums to be truly satisfying (or
complete) on a level even closely matching those produced by Paul Simon over
the same years. I guess that is a comparison that is unfair on both
artists. they have both moved on and perhaps should be measured on their
own terms.
Gerard
Gerard Eastwood
> The comment about not being excited about Pauls new album also leaves me
> speechless...
Got to agree with you there. Can't help but wonder why a subscriber to a
Paul Simon newssgroup would not be anything other than excited about the
prospect of both new songs.
Gerard
Loops
>Paul's new album, and 2). you think this is one of the friendliest
>newsgroups, simply attests to the fact that you can't allow for and
>accept other people's perceptions.
No, those were simply my "opinions" on your "opinions". But then, you
wouldn't have realised that without having it spelled out to you.
Are you saying that we should all agree with you then? and not have minds and
thoughts of our own? is that how it works over at AG's website?
SNUMBER6
>Before I comment on this post I wish to make it clear that this is my
>opinion. It is not my mothers, or my wife's, or my son's or my daughters.
>I also wish to make it clear that I accept no liability from anyone who
>relies on my comments as being undisputable fact. I also make the
>observation that I have always assumed that every other view I read here is
>just that - the personal observation or opinion of the sender. I gladly
>read others opinions even if I don't agree. " I hear what I want to hear
>and disregard the rest". I assume others do the same.
You seem rather opinionated ... :-)
IMO ...
Actually, you do make some excellent comments and observations ...In the
Art/Paul comparison ... remember Art is mostly just a singer ...Paul is a
lyricist/composer/arranger/musician/...singer ...
Again excellent observations and comments ...
But your opinions stink ...
just kidding ...
Seven
letters in my posts? That's absolutely ridiculous, IMHO (if this makes you
feel better now...).And the fact that I tend to be sarcastic now and then is
because that's how I am.
jmi...@my-deja.com schrieb:
> In article <oi0x5.1001$WSlb.2...@news.xtra.co.nz>,
> "Gerard Eastwood" <East...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> > <jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:8puf3e$69q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > Face the facts, Miriam, Paul Simon isn't the draw he once was (years
> > > ago), but that shouldn't bother you, should it? Or are you still
> > > looking to other people for validation of your feelings? Forget
> them
> > > and just enjoy the fact that a new Simon album is on its way.
> >
> > I agree with some of what you say. Paul Simon as a drawcard now is
> not the
> > same as 20 years ago and the selling success of his upcoming album is
> not a
> > certainty (may not even be likely). That doesn't change my view of
> him as
> > the premier Singer-songwriter of the past 30 plus years. The chart
> success
> > shouldn't change others views either.
> >
> > I don't think that there will be a single that will make an impact on
> the
> > charts. That hasn't happened for 15 to 20 years. His likely market
> is not
> > likely to buy a CD single anyway.
> >
>
> I don't disagree with that at all.
>
> > > (As an
> > > aside, I don't share this group's excitement about the coming album,
> > > but I'm smart enough to realize it doesn't matter a damn what other
> > > people think and/or feel.) -Jeanne
> > >
> >
> > Jeanne, why do you say you don't share others excitement about the
> coming
> > album? Are you saying that you are not looking forward to his new
> work or
> > have concerns that they will measure up to your expectations based on
> past
> > work. For me an impending new album of new songs is a very exciting
> > prospect. And I will make my own judgements about them regardless of
> what
> > else i read by so-called critics. And no doubt it will take me a
> good 6
> > months to truly put these songs in perspective compared to his
> existing
> > catalogue of work. It will take me that long to get over having a
> new album
> > of songs to listen to.
> >
> > Gerard
>
> It's not how he does with the critics, nor how the songs compare to his
> past work; neither of those two things matter to me. One of my
> problems is that I kind of parted ways with Paul many, many years ago.
> His lyrics became inaccessible to me, which, again, doesn't mean that I
> don't admire and deeply respect him as a songwriter/singer; it simply
> means he's moved beyond me. I much prefer Art's solo material, but
> that's a personal choice, and I fully understand how others might not
> agree with it. Which leads to my second problem, which is this
> newsgroup. I find the scarcasm and the stating of 'opinions', without
> noting them as such, very disturbing, and I find I must constantly
> remind myself that the members of this newsgroup who are guilty of
> such, are NOT truly representative of Paul's fans, but sometimes it's
> really difficult and my 'worst' self breaks through. -Jeanne
>
Daniel Henderson
>Actually, you do make some excellent comments and observations ...In the
>Art/Paul comparison ... remember Art is mostly just a singer ...Paul is a
>lyricist/composer/arranger/musician/...singer ...
>Again excellent observations and comments ...
I think that some people (especially) Art would resent denying him the label of
artist. So Artie is not an artist because he is "just a singer" ??? Artie
also arranged quite a bit of material for his solo records.
Daniel
Wilkie
enter into this discussion. Thank You.
:-)))
"Seven" <SMR-S...@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:39C62DF4...@t-online.de...
> Oh, now you're telling me I'm not a PS fan because I forgot four stupid
> letters in my posts? That's absolutely ridiculous, IMHO (if this makes you
> feel better now...).And the fact that I tend to be sarcastic now and then
is
> because that's how I am.
>
>
>
> jmi...@my-deja.com schrieb:
>
> > In article <oi0x5.1001$WSlb.2...@news.xtra.co.nz>,
> > "Gerard Eastwood" <East...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> > >
> > > <jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > news:8puf3e$69q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > > Face the facts, Miriam, Paul Simon isn't the draw he once was (years
> > > > ago), but that shouldn't bother you, should it? Or are you still
> > > > looking to other people for validation of your feelings? Forget
> > them
> > > > and just enjoy the fact that a new Simon album is on its way.
> > >
> > > I agree with some of what you say. Paul Simon as a drawcard now is
> > not the
> > > same as 20 years ago and the selling success of his upcoming album is
> > not a
> > > certainty (may not even be likely). That doesn't change my view of
> > him as
> > > the premier Singer-songwriter of the past 30 plus years. The chart
> > success
> > > shouldn't change others views either.
> > >
> > > I don't think that there will be a single that will make an impact on
> > the
> > > charts. That hasn't happened for 15 to 20 years. His likely market
> > is not
> > > likely to buy a CD single anyway.
> > >
> >
> > I don't disagree with that at all.
> >
> > > > (As an
> > > > aside, I don't share this group's excitement about the coming album,
> > > > but I'm smart enough to realize it doesn't matter a damn what other
> > > > people think and/or feel.) -Jeanne
> > > >
> > >
catia
Who Me <bkaw...@aol.commie> wrote in message
20000917105605...@ng-fi1.aol.com...
> "Hearts and Bones"
> That album sold quite a few copies,
....anybody knows how many? 500.000? 700.000?
(just wondering...)
catia
Cathy Friedmann
his work, I think. Except for René & Georgette Magritte - *that* one I
(*I* - IMHO!<g>) would classify as surrealistic, maybe because of Magritte's
works?? But also the song itself does strike me as being rather
surrealistic.
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
Gerard Eastwood <East...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:A9mx5.1272$WSlb.1...@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Before I comment on this post I wish to make it clear that this is my
> opinion. It is not my mothers, or my wife's, or my son's or my daughters.
> I also wish to make it clear that I accept no liability from anyone who
> relies on my comments as being undisputable fact. I also make the
> observation that I have always assumed that every other view I read here
is
> just that - the personal observation or opinion of the sender. I gladly
> read others opinions even if I don't agree. " I hear what I want to hear
> and disregard the rest". I assume others do the same.
>
> <jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8q2uah$tpu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> >
> > It's not how he does with the critics, nor how the songs compare to his
> > past work; neither of those two things matter to me. One of my
> > problems is that I kind of parted ways with Paul many, many years ago.
> > His lyrics became inaccessible to me, which, again, doesn't mean that I
> > don't admire and deeply respect him as a songwriter/singer; it simply
> > means he's moved beyond me. I much prefer Art's solo material, but
> > that's a personal choice, and I fully understand how others might not
> > agree with it.
>
Nicolas
Wilkie <wil...@sprint.ca> a écrit dans le message :
uUsx5.18$%S4....@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
> I'm just feeling very proud of myself for having resisted the temptation
to
> enter into this discussion. Thank You.
> :-)))
You're welcome...I had exactly the same thought about me. I become quieter
and quieter...
jmi...@my-deja.com
In article <20000918084937...@ng-cg1.aol.com>,
kidl...@aol.combat.spam (Loops) wrote:
> >The facts that 1). you're speechless about my not being excited over
> >Paul's new album, and 2). you think this is one of the friendliest
> >newsgroups, simply attests to the fact that you can't allow for and
> >accept other people's perceptions.
>
> No, those were simply my "opinions" on your "opinions". But then,
you
> wouldn't have realised that without having it spelled out to you.
>
> Are you saying that we should all agree with you then? and not have
minds and
> thoughts of our own? is that how it works over at AG's website?
>
jmi...@my-deja.com
jmi...@my-deja.com
gems in his work. I've been blown away many times by bits and pieces
of his lyrics, and sometimes by entire songs ("Train in the
Distance", "Graceland", "Rene and Georgette Magritte...", "Hearts and
Bones", and on and on...), but the bulk of his work I find lyrically
inaccessible while melodically enjoyable (this is especially true of
ROTS and GRACELAND.) Which, perhaps, explains why I persist in
visiting this newsgroup. It's those little gems that do mean a hell of
a lot to me.
As for Art, let's agree to disagree. For me, all his albums are truly
satisfying and complete, but again, you're also correct in saying that
they should be measured on their own terms. To me, comparing Paul and
Art is like comparing apples to oranges. Does the criteria for
comparison actually exist? IMHO, I don't think so. For whatever
reasons, they parted company almost *30* years ago. I don't believe I
was very upset about that since anyone who listened to BOTW knew it was
coming. And, based on the individual output of BOTH artists, I
wouldn't have it any other way (except *I* happen to respond a WHOLE
lot more to Art than I do to Paul, but that's just me.)
Enough said. I'm tired of trying to explain/justify myself. -Jeanne
In article <A9mx5.1272$WSlb.1...@news.xtra.co.nz>,
jmi...@my-deja.com
In article <qJdx5.256$Lb6.1...@newsfeed1.thebiz.net>,
Joey Berger
wrote:
>>From: snum...@aol.com
>
>>Actually, you do make some excellent comments and observations ...In the
>>Art/Paul comparison ... remember Art is mostly just a singer ...Paul is a
>>lyricist/composer/arranger/musician/...singer ...
>>Again excellent observations and comments ...
>
>I think that some people (especially) Art would resent denying him the label of
>artist. So Artie is not an artist because he is "just a singer" ??? Artie
>also arranged quite a bit of material for his solo records.
>Daniel
Where does it say that Artie is not an artist - his *name* is *Art*.
Seriously, though, he's an expressive, creative singer, arranger and
writer (Still Water), no? That certainly qualifies him as an artist.
Joey Berger
wrote:
I think 250000 - I also once read that SFTC sold 92000 copies - maybe
that number has increased. Yesterday, You're The One was a bestseller
(#18) at Amazon.com.
Joey Berger
Who Me
Now that's a "flop."
Bill
"Television is not the truth. Television is a goddamn amusement park"
-- Howard Beale
Cathy Friedmann
> I'm sorry, but what is "amps"? -Jeanne
This ng is amps: alt.music.paul-simon.
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War")
> In article <qJdx5.256$Lb6.1...@newsfeed1.thebiz.net>,
jmi...@my-deja.com
Very nice. Thank you, Joey. -Jeanne
Joey Berger <pa...@simon.org> wrote:
>
> Where does it say that Artie is not an artist - his *name* is *Art*.
> Seriously, though, he's an expressive, creative singer, arranger and
> writer (Still Water), no? That certainly qualifies him as an artist.
>
> Joey Berger
> pa...@simon.org
> icq:14315467 AOLim: simondmb
> Lasers In The Jungle: http://paul.simon.org
>
SNUMBER6
>Where does it say that Artie is not an artist - his *name* is *Art*.
Nowhere in my post ... but in comparing Art with Paul is impossible as to the
much wider range of Paul's talents ... Maybe "just a singer" is a little harsh
...but compared to Paul ... sorry Art loses hands down in all other areas ...
Gerard Eastwood
news:BWux5.295$Lb6.1...@newsfeed1.thebiz.net...
> I, in general, agree with you. Impressionistic is a good way to describe
> his work, I think. Except for René & Georgette Magritte - *that* one I
> (*I* - IMHO!<g>) would classify as surrealistic, maybe because of
Magritte's
> works?? But also the song itself does strike me as being rather
> surrealistic.
>
(as in painting ;-)) is not a subject I am expert in.
Gerard
Kiel98
>written in an impressionistic style (and interestingly sparked by a photo of
>a renown impressionist artist).
IMHO Rene Magritte is no impressionist artist.
His work is much more like Salvator Dali.
"You got to learn how to fall
Before you learn to fly."
-Paul Simon-
http://clubs.excite.com/Paul_Simon
Cathy Friedmann
news:20000919150129...@ng-fo1.aol.com...
> >Rene & Georgette Magritte is a classic example. What a stunning song
> >written in an impressionistic style (and interestingly sparked by a photo
of
> >a renown impressionist artist).
>
> IMHO Rene Magritte is no impressionist artist.
> His work is much more like Salvator Dali.
Yep, they were both surrealists. But, for the most part, I do agree that
Paul's work is impressionistic. Gerard's post made me think about it, &
then compare the Impressionists with the ones who paint(ed) in the style of
realism. Paul's work, admittedly by him, usually can't be taken verbatim as
the gospel truth (the realists); instead the words & music often form an
impression.
jmi...@my-deja.com
anyone else over the past few days, but if that IS how you read it, I
apologise; I certainly didn't mean to say or imply that. -Jeanne
In article <39C62DF4...@t-online.de>,
Seven <SMR-S...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Oh, now you're telling me I'm not a PS fan because I forgot four
stupid
> letters in my posts? That's absolutely ridiculous, IMHO (if this
makes you
> feel better now...).And the fact that I tend to be sarcastic now and
then is
> because that's how I am.
>
> jmi...@my-deja.com schrieb:
>
> > In article <oi0x5.1001$WSlb.2...@news.xtra.co.nz>,
> > "Gerard Eastwood" <East...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> > >
> > > <jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > It's not how he does with the critics, nor how the songs compare to
his
> > past work; neither of those two things matter to me. One of my
> > problems is that I kind of parted ways with Paul many, many years
ago.
> > His lyrics became inaccessible to me, which, again, doesn't mean
that I
> > don't admire and deeply respect him as a songwriter/singer; it
simply
> > means he's moved beyond me. I much prefer Art's solo material, but
> > that's a personal choice, and I fully understand how others might
not
> > agree with it. Which leads to my second problem, which is this
> > newsgroup. I find the scarcasm and the stating of 'opinions',
without
> > noting them as such, very disturbing, and I find I must constantly
> > remind myself that the members of this newsgroup who are guilty of
> > such, are NOT truly representative of Paul's fans, but sometimes
it's
> > really difficult and my 'worst' self breaks through. -Jeanne
> >
Cathy Friedmann
the scarcasm and the stating of 'opinions', without
noting them as such, very disturbing, and I find I must constantly
remind myself that the members of this newsgroup who are guilty of
such, are NOT truly representative of Paul's fans"
Cathy
--
"Decades gliding by like Indians, time is cheap." Paul Simon
("René & Georgette Magritte with their Dog after the War
<jmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8q8r9q$pkk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
PattyC4303
>representative of Paul's fans.
>
>Cathy
I've been a little behind in my ng reading, but... I agree with the above
based on a personal feeling. Until I found this ng, I had NEVER run into more
than a couple people who felt about PS the way I do. Since I consider myself a
major fan, I figure this group *obviously* is representative to true PS fans.
PattyC
"Feminism is the radical notion that women are people."