Random thoughts on both shows.
First of all, there was too many sexist, homophobic, jock idiots who thought th
is was a Megadeath show or somthing. They kept on holding up their lighters, a
nd doing that devil warshiping sign with their fingers. Another half of the
crowd was teennyboppers who wanted to lose their virginity to Trent. I heard
one 14 year old smoking yelling that she would let trent cum inside of her and
in her mouth. The youth of America. I also liked the kids wearing stupid band
shirts (STP, candlebox, Aerosmith, and Tesla). Last night one of the stupidest
sexist things I saw ever happened. Some girl was surfing wearing just a green
bra, some guy while she was up in the air, ripped it off. Lucky that
my buddy bill let her use his shirt, and they say that shiverly is dead. Jenny
please give bill his shirt back. As for me, I danced my ass of both nights,
the first night my feet got blisters that popped and hurt like hell Monday morn
ing. But by the time NIN was on Monday night, I did not care about the pain an
d danced the night away. I was king of the pit. I only danced for NIN thats
why I lasted the whole set. I was doing a circle pit type dance, but I was not
tackling anyone. Everyone else around me was copying my moves. Both shows wer
e great, but Sundays was much better because of the natural smooth flow. Good
weekend for me.
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Keith "Mr Self Destruct" Lipinski U33...@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
"i'm not the only dummy in this dummyroom" the vindictives
I don't think it was "AWP"--rather, it sounds more like selections off of LOW,
perhaps. Bowie was played quite a lot before the show between the acts...
>mr. self destruct (same)
I found this to be pretty weak live--I dunno... it just works better as a
studio piece... Perhaps the soundmen had to get the levels right again, and
for a song such as this, the levels of all the elements in the song need to be
pretty exact... I know there's a soundcheck etc., so perhaps overall, this
song doesn't translate too well live...
>march of the pigs (same)
Pretty damned rockin... THis was before just pure skronk became
"intensity"...
>piggy (same)
Of course, a little more angrier than on the album... gettin' into it, etc...
>gave up (same)
I was slightly disappointed by this--again, an intense song, but also because
of its little subtleties etc., which is difficult sometimes to show in the
rushed nature of a live show... if you know what I mean...
>happiness in slavery (same) Trent as always demolished a lot of
I thought "HiS" was pretty on the night I saw them (being Monday night). At
the end of the song, it seemed Trent was slightly pleased with his equiptment
for not fucking up terribly much... Methinks it was Clouser who decided to
get the wreckage into full swing.
The movie--annoyed by the people throwing hats and the screen and trying to
get in front of it. IMHo, they missed the point of it completely, but then
again I may be an anal elitist fuck-off who may have missed the point of a
live show... hrm... one can argue both, but I'm going to stick with the
former for now...
From here on, IMHO, the show kinda went limp. Sure, it got loud, but it was
so loud that, well, it was mud.
>suck (same) Me and the four cool guys I met at Sundays
It was amusing to note the dancy and the thrashy sides of this tune live... I
still don't care for this version terribly much, but that's just me...
>physical (the only time) The only change in both nights. Physical
Urgh, I had to hear "The Only Time" again. Kinda wish he'd play "Physical..."
>down in it (same) During this song Trent lept of the stage
"Dii" was a pretty gud high point amongst what I thought was kinda boring and
dreck-y... The "I used to be so big and strong" part was intense for me, but
that's probably because it's a neat song to begin with...
>head like a hole (same) Did anyone notice that the pit was cool
Not that I am a pit maven by any means, but it did seem the crowd was rather
dead through most of the show--certainly the people around me in the stands
were itching to break loose... or perhaps everyone on the floor was trying to
survive... I can definitely understand that...
>encore Monday night someone said that they heard
The encore for me was kinda boring and a little pointless. I won't comment
anything about "Closer," cause it's all pretty much been said before by
everyone (being both sides of the argument)... "I Do Not Want THis"... hrm,
I dunno... I didn't really enjoy it--but I thought it was a pretty weak song
to begin with, so I wasn't terribly excited to see it live...
(oh shit, class is starting...)
>somthing I can never have I don't know. I miss the demolition endin
It was interesting, but definitely left it at a low, in a sense. I liked the
music which kicked in after the show ended (well, it didn't "kick in"), but I
dunno. Many people seemed kinda oblivious to the "drama" presented both
before the show and after. To me, there definitely is a sense of theatre to
the show, but many people opt instead to see it as a bunch of songs... I
dunno... I can wax on this further, but have to run...
It seemed to me that on Monday night, Mr. Reznor was a little annoyed with our
crowd--I dunno... I did enjoy the little quirks he injected into the show,
such as playing a dinky keyboard sound during the ending hell of "HiS."
Last May, ending w/ "HiS" was insane and incredible, IMHO. I dunno... it
just seemed NIN blew their wad a little too early...
I was also kinda depressed neither "Burn" nor "Ruiner" was played... but
seeing "MotP" and "HiS" again live--shit, those are just very nice. The movie
was pretty cool as wel, but again, I dunno... maybe it was my odd feeling
about being in an Arena again... I just don't feel as close to the show as I
should... Still, though, I have my headphones and my copy of TDS...
Hrm, I have more to say, but oh well...
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c.s.y.
: >Did you notice Monday night that it took them forever to come back out?
: >I wonder if the crowd pissed Trent off, even though he thanked us twice.
: >My friends and I were joking that maybe they were fixing keyboards first.
: Geez, first time ever posting to this group (for me, that is..) Anyway,
: I've heard two stories on this. One was that Trent was just sort of
: taking a break, listening to his applause. Sort of a reward for a good
: night's work or something. (Heard this from a friend who had backstage
: seats or somesuch.)
: The friends I was with said they heard some weird shit coming from the
: speakers, so I suppose there could have been electrical problems also.
: (Or maybe it's just the shitty acoustics of Rosemont...)
My guess would be an electrical problem, too. I was up in the third or
fourth row, Robin was directly in front of me- and I'm fairly tall, so I had a
lovely view the whole time. Anyway, there were two or three roadie guys with
teeny flashlights playing with the wires up front for quite a while.
A few more comments, it was my first NIN show, hell, my first concert period.
I had gotten used to the whole bodysurfing thing during PWEI, and I have a cute
little cut on my eye from someone's Doc Marten.. I expected a little violence,
but I didn't see any actual pit, or moshing- there wasn't room where I was.
I could have strangled some of the jocks and trendies who only knew 'closer'
and maybe 'head like a hole'.. But I was lucky enough to be in a fairly cool
section, four or five other people who weren't psycho, none of them in all
black, but we can't have everything.
Did anyone else think the security was pretty cool? I expected 6 or 7 hairy
guys named Bubba with police batons, but there were some really nice guys.
I asked 'em if they'd drag out the stupid bodysurfers if we passed them up,
but no go. The funniest part of the show, aside from maybe Robin biting Trent
was when one of the guards, with his huge ear protection things on leaned
against the stage, completely oblivious to the fact that Robin was *right*
behind him- until Robin kinda tickled him. The guy jumped at least two feet
away and laughed.
Anyway, thanks to whoever the guy in front of me with the flannel shirt and
hankerchief on his head was.. I would have lost a 70$ pair of glasses if not
for him. If I find any cool pictures in the camera I found on the floor after
the first set, I'll scan 'em..
: - ups...@mcs.com -
: - Dan Linder -
ruin