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Bobby Claussen

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Apr 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/9/96
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Does anyone outthere have the longer version of Neworder Story? I
believe it almost twice as long as the "standard" version.

What's on it that isn't on the short version?

Is it available on VHS tape or only laserdisc

Many thanks in advance

Bobby
Nuw...@i-link.net


dustbin

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Apr 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/9/96
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Yes, there is a 140-minute version of the Story, which, I believe, is
only available everywhere else but the U.S. Believe me when I say that
it is much better than the edited version that was released in the US.
Fuckin' Americans...they always have to edit everything. Anyways, I got
my copy by ordering it over the phone from HMV Canada for like $25.00 or
something like that....

[dustbin]

he...@cuckoo.uwaterloo.ca

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Apr 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/9/96
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liq...@aloha.net (dustbin) writes:
Before anyone asks the obvious, you can contact HIV (oops... I mean HMV) at:
1-800-567-8468
(This is the Toronto store)

Bri

Pat1974

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Apr 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/10/96
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In article <4kcfo5$q...@news.i-link.net>, Nuw...@i-link.net (Bobby
Claussen) writes:

>Does anyone outthere have the longer version of Neworder Story? I
>believe it almost twice as long as the "standard" version.

>What's on it that isn't on the short version?

Nothing. They slow the frame rate by one half.

Patrick

Jae Kim

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Apr 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/13/96
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The JP ld version contains an extra live song in it's entirity plus some
other mentions not in the US version. The frames are not slowed to make
it longer.
JKim

Jae Kim

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Apr 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/14/96
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I have the Japanese laser disc version. Full trk listing:
Transmission
Love will Tear us Apart
Ceremony
Temptation
Blue Monday
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
Confusion
Shellshock
State of the Nation
Perfect kiss
True Faith
Round & Round
World in Motion
Fine Time
Regret
Temptation (yes, this appears twice)
Everyone Everywhere
Ruined in a day
World
Atmosphere

The only VHS version commercially available (I know of) is the 30 min
version. The US laserdisc version is about 60 min. And the JP laser
disc version is a bit longer.

JKim


On 9 Apr 1996, Bobby Claussen wrote:

> Does anyone outthere have the longer version of Neworder Story? I
> believe it almost twice as long as the "standard" version.
>
> What's on it that isn't on the short version?
>

Pat1974

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Apr 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/15/96
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In article <Pine.SGI.3.91.960414...@umbc10.umbc.edu>, Jae
Kim <jk...@gl.umbc.edu> writes:

>The only VHS version commercially available (I know of) is the 30 min
>version. The US laserdisc version is about 60 min. And the JP laser
>disc version is a bit longer.

US VHS version is 60 minutes.
US laserdisc version is 120 minutes.

Patrick

Frederic Cote

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Apr 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/16/96
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Pat1974 (pat...@aol.com) wrote:
: In article <Pine.SGI.3.91.960414...@umbc10.umbc.edu>, Jae
: Kim <jk...@gl.umbc.edu> writes:


I've bought my copy of "New Order story" at HMV in Montreal Canada and
it's, as said on the cover, approximately 140 minutes long. Is this the
long version everyone's talking about?

Frederic.

fernando

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Apr 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/16/96
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In article <4kuror$s...@service.polymtl.ca>, fcf...@step.polymtl.ca
(Frederic Cote) wrote:

~:I've bought my copy of "New Order story" at HMV in Montreal Canada and
~:it's, as said on the cover, approximately 140 minutes long. Is this the
~:long version everyone's talking about?

yes.

fernando

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fernando

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Apr 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/16/96
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Kim <jk...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

~:The only VHS version commercially available (I know of) is the 30 min
~:version. The US laserdisc version is about 60 min. And the JP laser
~:disc version is a bit longer.

Hopefully, most people will know that this is not true. The US VHS is
60min long and the laserdisc 120min long. The Japanese LD version is just
as long as the Canadian VHS (viewable in US VCR -- NTSC format) and the
UK/Europe version (not viewable in the US -- PAL/SECAM format): all of
them 140min.

The US laserdisc is not a bad edit of the 140min version. The cover was
slightly modified as well, with the letters getting a Terminator2 metal
feel to them.

later,

fernando

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Paul Irvine

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Apr 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/18/96
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: On 10 Apr 1996, Pat1974 wrote:
: > In article <4kcfo5$q...@news.i-link.net>, Nuw...@i-link.net (Bobby
: > Claussen) writes:
: >
: > >Does anyone outthere have the longer version of Neworder Story? I
: > >believe it almost twice as long as the "standard" version.
: >
: > >What's on it that isn't on the short version?
: >
: > Nothing. They slow the frame rate by one half.
: >
: > Patrick
: >
: >

Jae Kim (jk...@gl.umbc.edu) then wrote:
: The JP ld version contains an extra live song in it's entirity plus some

: other mentions not in the US version. The frames are not slowed to make
: it longer.
: JKim

Actually, both the 60 and 140min VHS versions have the same content. The
only difference is that the 140 min version is simply a 60 minute version
where the tape has been physically stretched by the inspectors from Fruit
of the Loom. Following the advice of Rob Gretton, the members of NewOrder
own a share of the Fruit of the Loom company, although after the Hacienda
and Dry experiences, they won't admit it. In fact, my copy has been
personally inspected by Barney himself, who happens to be Inspector #67.

Or maybe not.

I think there are 3 versions of NewOrderStory:

60 min -- US VHS
120 min -- US Laserdisc
140 min -- everything else... including Canadian and UK VHS and Japanese
Laserdisc

The US VHS has a few things that the 140 min version does not have...
the Regret video, a bit of a live World video, and the Technique videos.

140 min version has lotsa stuff missing from the US VHS version,
including the Baywatch/TOTP Regret performance, live performances of
Temptation and Everyone Everywhere, some of the older videos, and more
interview footage.

The 120 min version is missing either the live Temptation or Everyone
Everywhere (I can't remember which).

Paul
irv...@sfu.ca

Jae Kim

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Apr 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/19/96
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> Jae Kim (jk...@gl.umbc.edu) then wrote:
> : The JP ld version contains an extra live song in it's entirity plus some
> : other mentions not in the US version. The frames are not slowed to make
> : it longer.
> : JKim
>
> I think there are 3 versions of NewOrderStory:
>
> 60 min -- US VHS
> 120 min -- US Laserdisc
> 140 min -- everything else... including Canadian and UK VHS and Japanese
> Laserdisc

I apolgize for my msg regarding the duration time. It is incorrect (as
some have pointed out). It has been a long time since I watched them.
JKim


Garrett G. Gunderson

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Apr 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/23/96
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I have the US laserdisc (120 min version), and it has the live "Everyone
Everywhere" and is missing the live "Temptation." I wish I didn't read
that...Now, I want the 140 min version! =)

--Garrett
vid...@paul.spu.edu

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