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BBWMinors

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Last night we (husband, daughter and I) went to see They Might Be Giants at the
930 Club (I am willing to bet at least one other person from this NG may have
been there) and we saw ... or maybe I should say were subjected to ... what
was, IMHO, the all-time worst opening act I have ever seen at any kind of legit
venue ... they are called OkGo (pronounced Okay, Go! which we were wishing they
would do by the end of the first song).

I mean, we are talking massive lack of anything resembling song-writing talent
here ... and to make matters worse, they played for 45 minutes!!! Usually, when
the opener isn't a real double bill kind of situation, you don't have to listen
for THAT long ...

By the third song, Dana (she's 10, by the way, very good judge of talent
apparently since she loves TMBG, Fruvous and the Jackson 5) turns to us and
asks "And they got to open for TMBG HOW?????"

So here's me question/poll to the NG ... who are the BEST and WORST openers you
have seen for legit headliners (yes, Fruvous counts as headliner but NOT as
opener, since you went to see them in all likelihood ... )

I mean, we're not talking double bills here (I have often gone to shows to see
the opener when it's been, for example, NRBQ with Elvis Costello, etc.) ... I
mean a show where you probably knew nothing about the opening act till you got
there.

I would say the best I've seen was Kevin So, one of two openers for Fruvous at
the Birchmere this past summer. I would absolutely go see him if I saw him
listed playing somewhere, He may be one of the few openers I can say that about
(the other was, believe it or not, an acapella doo wop band called 14 Karat
Soul I saw open for NRBQ at the BottomLine about 20 years ago).

Lisa

BBWMinors

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Oh and in response to my own post here (yuck,I know)... I JUST found out that
guess who the opener will be for TMBG at the Bowery in two weeks??? MIKE
VIOLA.I would die for that one. And I get stuck with OkGo. Life is unfair ...

lawrence solomon

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BBWMinors wrote:
>
> Last night we (husband, daughter and I) went to see They Might Be Giants at
> the 930 Club (I am willing to bet at least one other person from this NG may
> have been there) and we saw ... or maybe I should say were subjected to ...
> what was, IMHO, the all-time worst opening act I have ever seen at any kind
> of legit venue ... they are called OkGo (pronounced Okay, Go! which we were
> wishing they would do by the end of the first song).

(so where were you all standing/sitting that I didn't see you?)

yeah, I thought they were pretty bad, too (and I get to see them *again*
tonight... fun) but mostly it was just that they were too loud and had way too
much bass, which normally I enjoy, but not when it's giving me a headache
through my earplugs.

I've seen worse, though - anyone who saw TMBG at the 9:30 club in December,
1996, was subjected to Goatboy, which was by far the second worst opening act
I've seen for them (the worst being Double Dong, which, as the name kind of
implies, had songs about pretty much only one thing)



> So here's me question/poll to the NG ... who are the BEST and WORST openers
> you have seen for legit headliners (yes, Fruvous counts as headliner but NOT
> as opener, since you went to see them in all likelihood ... )

in the "best" category...

Russell Wolff or Tory Cassis, opening for Früvous
Guster, for Barenaked Ladies[1] (I just wish the audience had been more
appreciative)
Candy Butchers, for TMBG (I envy the people who saw TMBG '86 open for TMBG
'97)
The Kennedys, for the Nields

and in the "worst" category:

those "hillbilly fag bar" guys who opened for Früvous in Columbus. offensive
*and* bad. perhaps the only slightly redeeming factor was "Friends don't let
friends watch Friends."
Double Dong, for TMBG

hrm, I guess I really haven't seen that many really bad openers. most are
tolerable. I think there are very few that I would be willing to miss (but
for some reason feel compelled to show up 2 hours early for anyway :)

[1] in fact, I found Guster much more enjoyable than BNL. Guster haven't sold
out.
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Josh Woodward

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Best Opener: Peter Mulvey (Somerville, March '98).
Runners Up: Great Big Sea, EFO, Martin Sexton, Nields, Kid Kazooie

Worst Opener: No question, that horrible guy in Columbus last year. I
don't remember his name, nor do I want to. Anyone who was there will
agree. :-)
Runner Up: Angry Salad (not bad, just didn't fit with Fruvous)

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Shawna Caspi

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Lisa threw out this question...

>So here's me question/poll to the NG ... who are the BEST and WORST openers
>you
>have seen for legit headliners (yes, Fruvous counts as headliner but NOT as
>opener, since you went to see them in all likelihood ... )
>

>I mean, we're not talking double bills here (I have often gone to shows to
>see
>the opener when it's been, for example, NRBQ with Elvis Costello, etc.) ...
>I
>mean a show where you probably knew nothing about the opening act till you
>got
>there.

I'll play :)

Best: Tegan and Sara- saw them last year opening for Mae Moore, had no clue
who they were, and was thrilled to find out how much they ROCKED!

Worst: some guy named Douglas September- opened for the Wyrd Sisters last
year...ugh :p He looked like Bob Dylan and sounded like some half-alive,
drugged up guy with no reason to be there at all.
Runner up: Ben Sures- Oh man...I didn't *know* the show was a "shared
stage", I thought he was just the opener. I went to see Martina Sorbara.
This guy spent loooong amounts of time boring us to death, and then trying
to amuse us with funny stories and induce singalongs. It got to the point
that my friend's MOM (who loves Martina) actually started yelling rude
comments to him!

On that note, the best "headliner" I discovered (after going mainly to see
the opener), was Laurel MacDonald...very nice.

Cheers,
Shawna

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Worst: This comedian for Weird Al. I forget his name. He just wasn't that
funny. Maybe I didn't get the jokes... nah. Weird Al was awesome though.

Best: Trout Fishing In America at the Ocean City show. They were just
fabulous. They are the only opening band I've seen that came back out because
the audiance wanted an encore.

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Joe Navratil

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>So here's me question/poll to the NG ... who are the BEST and WORST openers you
>have seen for legit headliners (yes, Fruvous counts as headliner but NOT as
>opener, since you went to see them in all likelihood ... )

Oy, there's a can of worms...

Best: The Paperboys, opening for Fruvous at the Ark in.. er.. '97? '98?

Best, non-Fruvous that I already knew about: Peter Mulvey opening for
the Nields sisters at the Freight & Salvage about a month ago; and
Guster opening for BNL, like Lawrence said.

Best, non-Fruvous that I didn't already know about: Christina Abbott,
opening for Russell Wolff on their western trek.

Worst: The 'Hillbilly Bar' guys from Columbus. Hands down.

Worst, non-Fruvous: James Michael, opening for the Beautiful South
last week; Chainsaw Kitten, opening for TMBG in '97.

I'm sure there's more on that "worst" list, but it's early out here
:-)

-Joe


James Kalyn

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Nov 5, 2000, 1:03:14 AM11/5/00
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On 04 Nov 2000 13:31:38 GMT, bbwm...@aol.com (BBWMinors) wrote:

>So here's me question/poll to the NG ... who are the BEST and WORST openers you
>have seen for legit headliners (yes, Fruvous counts as headliner but NOT as
>opener, since you went to see them in all likelihood ...

BEST (Fru): Tory Cassis
Had never heard of him, but he was great. Of course, you all know
that already.

BEST (non-Fru): The Darkest Of The Hillside Thickets (opening for
Huevos Rancheros)
I do concert reviews (cheap plug - read'em or sign up for my mailing
list at http://www.geocities.com/jkalyn/reviews.html) and this is what
I said about The Thickets:

"There were five guys in this band. Four of them were wearing matching
red jumpsuits with military bars on the sleeves and stenciled numbers
on their legs. One of them didn't seem to have any purpose except to
jump up and down in time to the music, and move his arms in time to
the drums. The lead singer was wearing a pink glittery spacesuit. He
had a lasergun strapped to his waist, and he'd play it like an
instrument. He sang a song where the only words seemed to be "He made
love to the fishies" while the other guy took a camera and ran around
the stage taking pictures of the band and the crowd. Then they all
drank out of some water pitchers, spaceman guy played with the gun
some more, and then they sang a mathematical formula. Then they sang a
song in German before discussing Police reunion concerts (or a lack
thereof). This was easily the best thing I had ever seen."

They genuinely were awesome. Head to www.holycow.com/thickets for
more info (and free MP3s)!

WORST: Xylon (opening for Kim Stockwood)
Xylon was apparently a founding member of Streetnix (if there are any
a-capella fans out there), but I didn't know this at the time, I just
knew he was awful. He was so bad that people at the bar were asking
the servers if they could get him off the stage early.

JK

y08x5

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Nov 5, 2000, 1:12:00 AM11/5/00
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Since I've only seen Fruvous once (and the comedian they had was rather
unremarkable) most of these are for Great Big Sea:

Best opening acts:
Sarah Harmer (for GBS)
Guster (for GBS)
Melanie Doane (for GBS)
The Push Stars (for GBS)

Honourable mentions:
The Ennis Sisters, Bran Van 3000, Bass is Base

Worst opening acts:
The Sadies (for Blue Rodeo) - what I like to call
"spacey-60s-hillbilly-hoedown" music
Monkey Wrench (for BNL back in 1993) - it was just bad

Cheers,
Melissa :o)


bsnow

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> Best--Guster for BNL, also enjoyed Sarah Harmer , and Todd Weidner, who opened
> for Früvous in Dayton

Worst--*those* guys in Columbus last year ( It was our first Früvous concert,
and were we afraid all the openers were going to be like that!)

Bunny

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<< Guster, for Barenaked Ladies[1] (I just wish the audience had been more
appreciative) >>


Where did you see them? I saw the combo 4 times at the beginning of the tour
in September, and each night Guster got a standing ovation!!


Cheryl (refraining from commenting about the implications later in the post
that BNL has sold out...... :-)

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lawrence solomon

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Resident Movie Critic wrote:
>
> << Guster, for Barenaked Ladies[1] (I just wish the audience had been more
> appreciative) >>
>
> Where did you see them? I saw the combo 4 times at the beginning of the tour
> in September, and each night Guster got a standing ovation!!

hrm. I saw them at the Dean Smith Center in Chapel Hill, NC last Friday...

a few people were paying attention, but people were mostly just talking
through them, and a lot of people hadn't even shown up yet. the place was
very empty when they took the stage. and after 8 songs they left the stage to
very scattered applause.

in fact, the people in front of me left their seats before Guster came out,
and I overheard one of them say "I might come back if they play that 'Fa Fa'
song." Well, they did come back, unfortunately, during Guster's first song
(What You Wish For) and wouldn't shut up the whole time, especially saying
things like "I wonder if they've played that 'Fa Fa' song yet." (what, did
they leave the venue and not hear that the band hadn't even finished playing
its opening song yet?!) these were the same people who wouldn't sit down
during the slow songs in BNL's set when the rest of the audience did, leaving
me unable to see, and not wanting to stand up because I'd end up blocking the
people behind me...

Anna!

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In article <3A043192...@fruhead.com>,
za...@fruhead.com wrote:

> > Last night we (husband, daughter and I) went to see They Might Be
> > Giants at the 930 Club (I am willing to bet at least one other
> > person from this NG may have been there) and we saw ... or maybe I
> > should say were subjected to ... what was, IMHO, the all-time worst
> > opening act I have ever seen at any kind of legit venue ... they are
> > called OkGo (pronounced Okay, Go! which we were wishing they would
> > do by the end of the first song).

> yeah, I thought they were pretty bad, too (and I get to see them


> *again* tonight... fun) but mostly it was just that they were too loud
> and had way too much bass, which normally I enjoy, but not when it's
> giving me a headache through my earplugs.

I think the 930 Club tends to push the levels with the sound sometimes.
I saw No Knife open for Sunny Day Real Estate a few months ago, and I
swear, I have never heard anything that loud in my life. I came home
with the worst headache. And while I actually like No Knife a lot, I was
almost wishing that they would spontaneously combust.

After reading this, I went to the TMBG show in Towson expecting OkGo to
be horrible, but I really, really enjoyed them. They had catchy, upbeat,
songs and a lot of enthusiasm. The bassist's crazy dancing could have
kept me entertained all night. I thought they had a kind of Soul
Coughing/Starling/Ben Folds/Weezer vibe going.

Besides, not to many bands can open their set with Toto's "Hold the
Line" :)

-anna-
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Tim Cain

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Hey, I can delurk for this one.

>So here's me question/poll to the NG ... who are the BEST and WORST
>openers you
>have seen for legit headliners (yes, Fruvous counts as headliner but NOT as

>opener, since you went to see them in all likelihood ... )

Best ever: Squeeze opening for Elvis Costello in 1981. Set up a lifelong
lover affair

Second-best ever: The Thieves opening for Jeff Healy in 1989, when about
six people knew who Jeff Healy was. (I think 12 know now)

Runners up: CIndy Lee Berryhill for the Smithereens; David Wilcox for Jars
of Clay

Best Fruvous opener: Susan Werner (unless Candy Butchers and Too Cynical to
Cry from Fleadh last year count. I know, I know, Candy Butchers weren't on
the same stage. Details.)

Worst opener ever: Sammy Hagar for Nazareth in 1978. He was booed off the
stage, cursed at the audience as he left. Three people held up lighters.
Sammy comes back out and says, "OK, the matches [sic] have it. We're
playing another one." That announcement was greeted by a cascade of boos.
Funnier than hell.

Worst Fruvous opener: I know lots of people love her, but I just don't get
Sarah Slean at all

Openers I'm most ashamed to admit I enjoyed: Color Me Badd for Paula Abdul;
Jackyl for Aerosmith.

(Hey, at least this indicates my musical tastes are all over the map.)

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BBWMinors

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Was it Sarah Slean who opened for Fruvous at the 930 Club back in February
1999? Or was it Susan Werner?

I also just remembered another great opener who was at the time very obscure,
and that was k.d. lang ... can't remember who she opened for but I think it
was, once again, NRBQ at the Bottom Line ... she had long hair and was wearing
a skirt and it was right before Torch and Twang came out ... she still went by
k.d. lang and the Recliners, and did the whole Patsy Cline thing.

Robin Kent

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> Openers I'm most ashamed to admit I enjoyed: Color Me Badd for Paula Abdul;
> Jackyl for Aerosmith.
>

> Color Me Badd!! I used to love them. (think this is the first time I've
> publicly admitted that)

-Robin

NJSkedder

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I saw Jesse Camp, that idiot from MTV warm up for Alice Cooper in Atlantic
City. He was pretty bad. Horrible. I wanted to kick his ass. But I just walked
out.

Pooky Toby

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>> Best--Guster for BNL, also enjoyed Sarah Harmer , and Todd Weidner, who
>opened
>> for Früvous in Dayton
>
Worst: Martin Sexton opening for Fruvous at the Harro East in Rochester.

CintiBud

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Best (Fruvous) - Great Big Sea. (Cinti - 97) What a fantastic surprise,
I had no idea who they were!

Worst (Fruvous) - "White Lightning". (Cinti - 98) Actually not as bad
as some of the other horror stories posted since he knew he was bad and
was real good humored about it, so it was actually somewhat
entertaining. i.e. so bad it was funny.

Best (non-fru) Paul Thorn opening for John Prine (Cinti-00). Had the
Prine fans, who had never heard of him and were anxious for their man,
singing along, laughing, paying attention to the quiet songs and loudly
applauding at the end of each number. Puts out more emotions with his
voice and accustic guitar than most bands. I'm now a big fan - check
him out at http://www.paulthorn.com/

Worst (non-fru) (Cinti, 00) Went to see Paul Thorn again, this time as
a headliner at a small club in town. His opener was "Chuck Wagon", who
couldn't sing or play a guitar well. The first two songs were kind of
interesting but he ran out of material after that. However he continued
to play for almost an hour! After his set he sat at a table with a few
friends in the front and proceed to talk with them all through Paul
Thorn's set! We were all ready to kick his butt, but he was a very
large individual :-0


CintiBud

NJSkedder

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>Best (non-fru) Paul Thorn opening for John Prine (Cinti-00). Had the
>Prine fans, who had never heard of him and were anxious for their man,
>singing along, laughing, paying attention to the quiet songs and loudly
>applauding at the end of each number. Puts out more emotions with his
>voice and accustic guitar than most bands. I'm now a big fan - check
>him out at http://www.paulthorn.com/

Yup, I saw Paul Thorn last month and I have been listening to his live cd
almost every day since...

Carey Farrell

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Worst opening act: I think I'm gonna have to go with Kim
whose-last-name-I've-forgotten, one of the openers for Fruvous at the 6/2/00
Vault show. There wasn't anything particularly offensive about her (except
that she was badly in need of some conditioner), she was just bloody boring.
And her set went *way* over her alloted time, if I remember correctly.

Best opening act: I'm either gonna have to go with Lisa's answer of Kevin So
at the Birchmere, or go back to Peter Mulvey opening for Dar in '97. I'd
rave about them for awhile, but I suspect I'd be preaching to the converted,
and I'm too tired anyway. :)

Carey

ladywench

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>Worst Opener: No question, that horrible guy in Columbus last year. I
>don't remember his name, nor do I want to. Anyone who was there will
>agree. :-)

thinks* Was this the *drunken frat boy*? At the show where I was being
stalked? No, I think that was Cincinatti the year before. HE has my vote for
worst opener.

ladywench

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The worst opening act by far for Fruvous was on 9.12.1999 at Ludlows in
Columbus... anyone remember the "Two Yahoos"?? THEY SUCKED! I
personally am scared forever with their greatest hit "Hillbilly Fag
Bar" (I shit you not...)

-Mark-

bradb...@my-deja.com

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> Worst: The 'Hillbilly Bar' guys from Columbus. Hands down.

<to myself> read before you post, read before you post</to myself>

I guess I wasn't the only one scared... Joe do you still have the tape
of that song? maybe we can post it to FDC? ;-)

Chad Maloney

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BBWMinors wrote:
> So here's me question/poll to the NG ... who are the BEST and WORST openers you
> have seen for legit headliners (yes, Fruvous counts as headliner but NOT as
> opener, since you went to see them in all likelihood ... )

Here ya go. Order means things to me, not necessarily to you.

WORST:
Goat Boy (TMBG opener from aways back - 95 or 96)

[Space here to show that Goat Boy is by far the worst]

White Lightning (Fruvous opener from Cinti in 98 I think)
Whomever opened for Fruvous at Ludlow's recently


BEST (but shouldn't be opening for people):
Fruvous (seen them open for a couple people)
Eddie From Ohio (opening for Fruvous)
Peter Mulvey (opening for Patty Larkin in Cinti)
Ben Folds Five (opening for some loud ass mainstream band I can't recall
whose lead singer was in Nirvana I think)
Dan Bern (co-billed with Fruvous)
Laura Love (co-billed with Fruvous)
Tori Cassis (opening for Fruvous)
Susan Werner (opening for Fruvous)


BEST:
Johny Vegas (opening for Fruvous quite a bit over the years and damn good)
Hammell on Trial (opening for Fruvous quite a bit also)
The Good (Fruvous opener from Chicago 98 I think)
Butch Ross (Fruvous opener from Philly 99 I think)
Hotel Faux Pas (Fruvous opener from St. Louis 99)
Ballroom Roustabouts (Fruvous opening from Bloomington 98)

- Chad (sure he's forgotten some)

Chad Maloney

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BBWMinors wrote:
>
> Was it Sarah Slean who opened for Fruvous at the 930 Club back in February
> 1999? Or was it Susan Werner?

Jess Klein. How do you confuse Sarah Slean and Jess Klein with Susan Werner?
Susan Werner is the talented one that can hold the audiences attention *Grin*

- Chad

BBWMinors

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Jess Klein... that's it! Thank you ... Sorry for the confusion ... I've never
seen/heard Susan Werner so maybe I can be forgiven for the faux pas? ... All I
could remember was she was a woman singer that people here had semi-raved about
that I found really boring ...

No one has mentioned Amy Rigby here one way or the other. I know she's probably
more famous than Fruvous now but I found her pretty irritating with the
exception of the "drummer song."

Wow, I really sound like someone with no patience for opening acts don't I ...

Maybe OkGo got a lot better the second night, since Anna liked them ... I just
found them to be total poseurs who were 98 percent attitude and 2 percent
talent. (I did, however, find myself fascinated with the bass player's "hairdo"
... he had a shaved head with only a strip of black hair which went all the way
around his face into a beard as if someone had tied a piece of ribbon around
his chin). And he certainly did have energy. But truthfully, they reminded me
of some of the really lame opening acts I used to see at CBGBs in the 70s.
(Showing my age here I guess).

Anna!

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worst openers:

the cows, opening for primus ... the singer whipped a
banana out of his zipper, climbed up on the speaker stack and ... well,
you can figure out the rest.

no knife, opening for sunny day real estate ... i actually like no knife
a lot, but the sound at the 930 Club was *horrible* (whereas it's
usually pretty damn good) and i had a headache by the time SDRE came on.

i know i've seen a ton of terrible openers ... but they were so bad that
i can't even remember their names :)

best openers: folk implosion, opening for sebadoh. lou barlow is in both
bands. rawk.

soul coughing, opening for DMB.

chris brown and kate fenner, opening for the tragically hip.

danny michel, opening for fruvous.

pj harvey, opening for live.

ben folds five, opening for neil young.


-anna-

Chad Maloney

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BBWMinors wrote:
>
> Jess Klein... that's it! Thank you ... Sorry for the confusion ... I've never
> seen/heard Susan Werner so maybe I can be forgiven for the faux pas? ... All I
> could remember was she was a woman singer that people here had semi-raved about
> that I found really boring ...

I think there was a time when anyone who even opened for Fruvous was
considered sacred since Jian must have talked to them backstage or
something. So even the mediocre-at-best people were raved about on
the newsgroup. Fortunately that time has passed and people are brave
enough to have opinions. Without opinions, we wouldn't get to read
about how the Nields sounds like caterwauling, Jess Klein couldn't
excite her way out of a wet paper bag, and Martina Sorbara couldn't
enunciate multi-syllable words to save her life.

- Chad

Chad Maloney

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Chad Maloney wrote:
> - Chad (sure he's forgotten some)

See, I forgot some.

Hennessey was also extremely good. I'd put them up there with
Johny Vegas in terms of pop talent.

- Chad

Bonnie Conrad

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Ditto on Amy Rigby. She opened for Graham Parker at
Tramps in NYC and I found her just awful.

Bonnie

> No one has mentioned Amy Rigby here one way or the
> other. I know she's probably
> more famous than Fruvous now but I found her pretty
> irritating with the
> exception of the "drummer song."


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In article <2000110618021...@web1102.mail.yahoo.com>,

Bonnie Conrad <beco...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ditto on Amy Rigby. She opened for Graham Parker at
> Tramps in NYC and I found her just awful.

Eeek! Is that her name? I *think* this was the woman who opened at the
last Alfred show. She wins my vote for worst opener, hands down.

~Nancy~

Dionysia

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best:
stabbing westward (for depeche mode in '95 and '99)
primal scream (for depeche mode in '95)
linee perroncel (for ani difranco at mount holyoke college - my alma
mater - in '95)
the cruxshadows (for clan of xymox in '99)

worst:
eggbot (for fruvous in portland, maine, this summer)


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Chad Maloney

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"Anna!" wrote:
>
> ben folds five, opening for neil young.

Wholly wow, that's a nice ticket. Wow.

- Chad (pointlessly one line posting today)

BBWMinors

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I remember Amy Rigby being referred to afterwards as "angry young woman" ...
but apparently she was an original member of the Smithereens and is considered
by the geniuses at the Washington Post to be some sort of rock/pop icon.

I'll give her credit though ... she does a duet with Jules Shear on "Between
Us" so she must have some sort of credence somewhere (even though it's one of
the lamest songs on the CD) ...

Lisa

SaphiraCat83

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>Ben Folds Five (opening for some loud ass >mainstream band I can't recall
whose lead singer >was in Nirvana I think)

Foo Fighters. The lead singer was Nirvana's drummer.

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Donna Hunt

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Pooky Toby wrote:

> Worst: Martin Sexton opening for Fruvous at the Harro East in >Rochester.

Wow.

I'm interested in what it was you disliked about Marty Sexton.

I think he's an incredible singer/songwriter. Unbelievable (sometimes
annoyingly so, granted) falsetto.

I didn't really dig seeingh him at the Harro East. Of course, I don't really
dig seeing anyone at the Harro East.

But, Martin Sexton is cool, man!


ciao,
donna

loren becker

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Lisa wrote:

> No one has mentioned Amy Rigby here one way or the other. I know she's probably
> more famous than Fruvous now but I found her pretty irritating with the
> exception of the "drummer song."

Thank you. I think Amy Rigby might be up towards the top of my list of worst
openers. Someone band affiliated (it might have been Jian) recently brought her up
again as being a really horrible opener. I was amused that whoever it was actually
remembered that.

Others on the bad Fruvous openers list:
Those dudes from Ludlow's in September '99 who were damn offensive
The Jimmy's Chicken Shack guy who is apparently good with the band but I couldn't
listen to solo
...there have been tons of crappy openers over the past few years that I've been
seeing Fruvous. I can't remember them all.

Favourite Fruvous openers (who shouldn't be openers):
Eddie From Ohio
Dan Bern (double bill. which doesn't explain why I'm currently skipping his show)
Trout Fishing in America (these guys are just entertaining)
Susan Werner (how many people can actual hold there own on a stage with the Fruvous
boys? I can only think of two - Susan and Vance Gilbert)
Tory Cassis

Other favourite Fruvous openers (who in the Fruvous context should be openers):
Butch Ross (even if I was paying more attention to killing that woman and stealing
her husband)
Danny Michel (do you have any idea how many CDs this man sold in February?)
Hennessey (I enjoyed them. Not the top of the list but pretty damn good)
Mike Errico (I love listening to his CD, even if I do always skip the first song)

Dionysia wrote:

> worst:
> eggbot (for fruvous in portland, maine, this summer)
>

I must step up and defend Eggbot (whose real name I've rudely forgotten). I found
him entertaining. He's opened for Fruvous more than once (and got some play before
the Oberlin show on 9/2/00). Perhaps that's because they like him (not that that
should matter). I mean, a certain mysterious bass player was chomping at the bit to
buy the first three CDs Eggbot brought out (pointless name-dropping; also know as
advertising by association - Murray bought 'em so you should too). And yes, in
Oberlin Anna and I were the ones cheering for more Eggbot when Fruvous took the
stage.

Okay, I have obviously said enough for one post. I seem to have a posting bug of
sorts these days.

/l


chad schrock

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BBWMinors wrote:
>
> I remember Amy Rigby being referred to afterwards as "angry
> young woman" ...

bitter, actually.

> but apparently she was an original member of the Smithereens
> and is considered by the geniuses at the Washington Post to
> be some sort of rock/pop icon.

<eye roll>

> I'll give her credit though ... she does a duet with Jules
> Shear on "Between Us" so she must have some sort of credence
> somewhere (even though it's one of the lamest songs on the
> CD) ...

Actually, I will say that the time I saw her at the Vault, I
thought she (and band) was awful. However, a while later I
heard some of her stuff on the radio and it actually sounded
pretty good. I guess she just needs a producer and a sound
guy and a mixer and all sorts of other things...


chad

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PISCOPINTO

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I met her ex-husband while they were still together and he totally hit on me.
That has nothing to do with anything, but oh well.
I rarely see anyone entertaining opening for Fruvous. Nobody at any club knows
what kind of acts to schedule with them, and they usually bring female
singer-songwriters with them, and watching that usually doesn't float my boat.
The best act I've seen with them, by far, is the Nields, but honorable mention
goes to the Fleadh Festival a couple years ago when I got to watch Luka Bloom
and then discover Martin Sexton (playing Schubas in Chicago Friday!! Anyone
going to the 10:30 show???) before Fruvous played.
Angel
>Ditto on Amy Rigby. She opened for Graham Parker at
>Tramps in NYC and I found her just awful.
>
>Bonnie


PISCOPINTO

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>
>I'll give her credit though ... she does a duet with Jules Shear on "Between
>Us" so she must have some sort of credence somewhere (even though it's one of
>the lamest songs on the CD) ...
>
>Lisa

How about the nice Freedy song on that CD?? To tell the truth, that's almost
the only one I listen to!! (sorry Jules, I still think you're great)
Angel

Anna!

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In article <3A06F3ED...@Fruvous.com>,

Chad Maloney <Ch...@Fruvous.com> wrote:
>
> "Anna!" wrote:
> >
> > ben folds five, opening for neil young.
>
> Wholly wow, that's a nice ticket. Wow.

Indeed it was, and well worth the insane amount of money I forked over
to Ticketmaster. Unfortunately, Jewel was also on that ticket. But I
suppose it wasn't really *that* bad. I like to think of Jewel performing
the same way I think of Fruvous playing "Fly" ... as a chance to hit the
bathroom and have a cigarette (damn no smoking venues!) without missing
anything interesting.

:)

-anna-
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BBWMinors

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Angel asked ... <<How about the nice Freedy song on that CD?? To tell the

truth, that's almost the only one I listen to!! (sorry Jules, I still think
you're great)>> ...

I have three megafavorites ... believe it or not, the Paula Cole duet ("Last in
Love"), "Let's Go Slow" which I believe is done with his brother, and "Same Sad
Smile" with Curtis Stigers.

I would give anything to see Jules live and I know he had been doing a regular
gig at Fez Under Time but there doesn't seem to be anything scheduled for my
two upcoming NYC trips ... I do, however, have reservations to go see Mike
Viola there on Dec. 22 -- anyone wanna come with?????

Lisa

BBWMinors

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OK Loren ... now I have to ask about the woman you wanted to kill so you could
steal her husband.


Anna!

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In article <3A075714...@bosconet.org>,
loren becker <lo...@bosconet.org> wrote:

> Others on the bad Fruvous openers list:

> The Jimmy's Chicken Shack guy who is apparently good with the band but


> I couldn't listen to solo

spuh to you, i thought he was great! then again, i'm a huge JCS fan, so
that was a treat for me.

> Other favourite Fruvous openers (who in the Fruvous context should be
openers):

> Danny Michel (do you have any idea how many CDs this man sold in
February?)

Mrowr. I would have bought a fried egg if it had his name on it. I want
to have his babies!!! (kidding, people.) (sort of.)

> Dionysia wrote:
>
> > worst:
> > eggbot (for fruvous in portland, maine, this summer)
> >
>
> I must step up and defend Eggbot (whose real name I've rudely
> forgotten).

I don't think he ever told us, seeing as how he purposely spoke in
third person. When I asked him what his real name was, I do believe he
said "Eggbot's real name *is* Eggbot."

> I found him entertaining. He's opened for Fruvous more than once (and
> got some play before the Oberlin show on 9/2/00). Perhaps that's
> because they like him (not that that should matter). I mean, a certain
> mysterious bass player was chomping at the bit to buy the first three
> CDs Eggbot brought out (pointless name-dropping; also know as
> advertising by association - Murray bought 'em so you should too).

Yes, he seemed quite enamored with Eggbot ... and why not? He was odd,
but funny as hell. Perhaps the kind of performer that one would want
their friends to hear so badly that they would call them up on a cell
phone and hold the reciever up to the stage just to they could hear the
music. I know certain people who would do that for Eggbot.

Yeah, so he's not the damn Neilds who everyone (except those of us with
the word "caterwaul" in our vocabulary) seems to love so much, but he's
doing music that he believes in, and especially because it is so
unbelievably strange, I really respect him for that. I think it takes a
lot of guts to get up on stage in front of anyone (Fruvous fans
especially) and play something that you know 90% of the audience is
going to either not understand, or not appreciate.

I'm not saying that I've got his CD on regular rotation ... hell, I
didn't actually buy one (I really do think Murray bought them all.
Bastard.) ... but I think he's a pretty decent artist.

> And yes, in Oberlin Anna and I were the ones cheering for more Eggbot
> when Fruvous took the stage.

I will shamlessly admit to that. I think Eggbot should have opened that
show as well. I think maybe Fruvous should have opened for Eggbot.

Eggbot forever,

http://www.illuminatrix.com/clavicle/roster/eggbot/eggbot_frameset.html

Anna!

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In article <20001106203750...@ng-bd1.aol.com>,
bbwm...@aol.com (BBWMinors) wrote:

> OK Loren ... now I have to ask about the woman you wanted to kill so
> you could steal her husband.

What, you think there's only *one* woman out to kill Loren? Didn't you
know she's a husband thief? Not to mention stand-offish and snobby and
intimidating and ... um, mean. Yeah. Really mean. The kind of person who
would not only steal your husband, but smack you really hard because you
made a big deal out of her birthday. You think you know the nice,
pleasant, helpful girl who sold you 'Wood'? Think again. She's evil,
just like Jim Cuddy.

-anna-
... who is quite aware that that was one big, fat, inside joke.

SnarkiFru

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Hmm, most of my faves have been listed already...

Tory Cassis
Mike Errico
Russell Wolff
Susan Werner
Sarah Harmer
Martin Sexton (tho the Roch audience really ticked me off)
Kurt Swinghammer (well, not the BEST hands down... but I really liked his
stuff when he played in Rochester)

I didn't see the Nields or EFO or Vance Gilbert or Kevin So open for Fruvous,
but I have seen them and they are incredible. Sarah Slean is starting to grow
on me... and i liked the Waltons :)

Worst:
Amy Rigby... ugh
those "guys" in Columbus last Fall... yep, them Hillbilly Fag guys... They
endangered their lives that night, I took it upon myself to make mention of a
VERY angry woman hovering near stage ready to kill someone (you think I'm
kidding??) to one of the big solid massive bouncers. He thought I was
kidding... then glanced over, and decided to "be there" in case something
happened.
Didn't see Angry Salad open for Fruvous, but did see them open for Guster...
my only comment about them is that their music all seemed the same... even
their "ballads" sped up the the same boring tempo as their "upbeat" songs...
but damn the lead singer is TALL!
Amy Rigby...
...who was the bald guy that opened for Fruvous in Buffalo in Fall '97? I
remember not liking him...
Amy Rigby...

SF

They say that the Road to Hell is paved with good intentions... well, at least
it will be a smooth ride

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FYI- Amy was never a member of the Smithereens,
though members of the band have played with her.
Just want to set the record straight.


In article <20001106143533.22326.00000055@ng-
co1.aol.com>,


bbwm...@aol.com (BBWMinors) wrote:
> I remember Amy Rigby being referred to
afterwards as "angry young woman" ...

> but apparently she was an original member of
the Smithereens and is considered
> by the geniuses at the Washington Post to be
some sort of rock/pop icon.
>

> I'll give her credit though ... she does a duet
with Jules Shear on "Between
> Us" so she must have some sort of credence
somewhere (even though it's one of
> the lamest songs on the CD) ...
>
> Lisa
>

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Before you buy.

Chad Maloney

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SaphiraCat83 wrote:
>
> >Ben Folds Five (opening for some loud ass >mainstream band I can't recall
> whose lead singer >was in Nirvana I think)
>
> Foo Fighters. The lead singer was Nirvana's drummer.

Correct! Thank you.

- Chad

lo...@bosconet.org

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Lisa wrote:
> OK Loren ... now I have to ask about the woman you wanted to kill so
> you could steal her husband.

I refer you to Chad's fabulously written letter to Bear Bear dated
5/10/00. It's on Deja at:

http://x61.deja.com/getdoc.xp?
AN=621611419&CONTEXT=973612348.777715765&hitnum=7

Apparently the woman didn't want me standing in front of her husband.
Obviously I was trying to steal him away from her.

So, does this change my status as a good role model for Miz Dana?

/l
standoffish and intimidating as always

"vote early and vote often."
(hey, it's election day. i spent an hour at the voting station this
morning. if you're eligible to vote you should too.)

Dionysia

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/l:

> I must step up and defend Eggbot (whose real name I've rudely
> forgotten). I found him entertaining.

it was cool when he got up on stage and joined MF on trumpet...
but the opening selections just made me laugh.

lo...@bosconet.org

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Anna! wrote:
>> The Jimmy's Chicken Shack guy who is apparently good with the band
>> but I couldn't listen to solo
>
> spuh to you, i thought he was great! then again, i'm a huge JCS fan,
> so that was a treat for me.

Spuh yourself. Some people just have no taste in music. Which is why
they're always playing the same CD over and over in their car.
And...well...I could mention certain rather frightening songs
like "He's Got No Legs But He's Running Through My Mind" (or whatever
it's called these days) but it's actually kinda catchy in a strange
sort of way.

> I don't think he ever told us, seeing as how he purposely spoke in
> third person. When I asked him what his real name was, I do believe he
> said "Eggbot's real name *is* Eggbot."

I know he told us at some point. That weekend is such a blur at this
point. Hell, it was a blur then too. But I know he had a real name and
I knew it once. We'll just have to write my forgetting off as a senior
moment or something.

> Yes, he seemed quite enamored with Eggbot ... and why not? He was odd,
> but funny as hell. Perhaps the kind of performer that one would want
> their friends to hear so badly that they would call them up on a cell
> phone and hold the reciever up to the stage just to they could hear
> the music. I know certain people who would do that for Eggbot.

Or at least they would talk about wanting to do it. I don't think
anyone I know of actually did it.

> Yeah, so he's not the damn Neilds who everyone (except those of us
> with the word "caterwaul" in our vocabulary) seems to love so much,

Oh yeah, 'cause you love the Nields so much. I still think "caterwaul"
is most appropriate.

> I'm not saying that I've got his CD on regular rotation ... hell, I
> didn't actually buy one (I really do think Murray bought them all.
> Bastard.) ... but I think he's a pretty decent artist.

Nah, Tobes has one too. You just want to believe Murray bought them all
so that you won't feel guilty for not buying one yourself.

Granted, I didn't buy one either. It was only afterwards that I began
to appreciate Eggbot. And I was kinda broke at the time anyway.

/l
(anna and i should really not be allowed to communicate in a public
forum. we make no sense.)

Sanjita Nag

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[de-lurk] Hi y'all. Thought I'd add my stuff to the lists:

Best opening acts:
1. Morley, opening for Neil Finn in 1998. They are a great band, very
funky and
different, with a world music sort of thing going. I have no idea if they
are still around.

2. Johnny Favourite Swing Orchestra, opening for Colin James in 1998. It
was a really good, energetic show that got the whole audience dancing
around.

3. Susan Werner!! ('nuff said)

4. Great Big Sea opening for Barenaked Ladies, just before their first
hit got on the airwaves. I had never heard of them before, and they blew
me away with the sheer infectious fun of their set.

5. I also saw The Wallflowers opening for Chris Isaak several years ago,
before anyone had heard of them. Not way up there with the
above-mentioned artists, but I remember being pretty impressed.

...and my favourite Fruvous songs: King of Spain, Kick in the Ass (it
just makes me laugh every single time) and Love Set Fire.

have a lovely day, everyone,

Sanjita


BBWMinors

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Loren-the-husband-stealer asks: <<So, does this change my status as a good role
model for Miz Dana?>>

Don't get me started on role models for Miz Dana ... she's going through a
tough stage right now and at age 10 no less ...I thought I had at least 3 or 4
more years before I had to worry about this. Yes you are still the perfect --
more than perfect -- role model for her.

Besides ... I sat with you for some of the Herndon concert and I know for a
fact you were trying to steal every husband within three blankets of us.

L


Anna!

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lo...@bosconet.org wrote:

> Spuh yourself. Some people just have no taste in music. Which is why
> they're always playing the same CD over and over in their car.

Hm. I have no defense for that. Except that I'm fairly sure that you now
actually *like* said band enough to buy *two* of their CDs ;)

> And...well...I could mention certain rather frightening songs
> like "He's Got No Legs But He's Running Through My Mind" (or whatever
> it's called these days) but it's actually kinda catchy in a strange
> sort of way.

And you haven't even heard the words put *with* the music yet. It's
going to rival 'Bobby' as our most-loved song.


> > I don't think he ever told us, seeing as how he purposely spoke in
> > third person. When I asked him what his real name was, I do believe he
> > said "Eggbot's real name *is* Eggbot."
>

> I know he told us at some point. That weekend is such a blur at this
> point. Hell, it was a blur then too.

Hm. I blame it on the free beers that I wasn't getting.

> But I know he had a real name and I knew it once. We'll just have to write my forgetting
> off as a senior moment or something.

Kind of like "Check out the flashing lights!" ?



> > Yes, he seemed quite enamored with Eggbot ... and why not? He was odd,
> > but funny as hell. Perhaps the kind of performer that one would want
> > their friends to hear so badly that they would call them up on a cell
> > phone and hold the reciever up to the stage just to they could hear
> > the music. I know certain people who would do that for Eggbot.
>

> Or at least they would talk about wanting to do it. I don't think
> anyone I know of actually did it.

Maybe because I didn't offer my cell-phone :)



> > Yeah, so he's not the damn Neilds who everyone (except those of us
> > with the word "caterwaul" in our vocabulary) seems to love so much,
>

> Oh yeah, 'cause you love the Nields so much. I still think "caterwaul"
> is most appropriate.

Don't get me started on thei Neilds. Okay, fine, you got me started. The
thing I hate most about the Neilds is that I actually sort of like them.
But sometimes, those voices make me want to lock my keys in the trunk
and curl up in a ball and cry. I would probably like them quite a bit if
I could get past the voices, but it bothers me that I should have to
make that effort :)



> > I'm not saying that I've got his CD on regular rotation ... hell, I
> > didn't actually buy one (I really do think Murray bought them all.
> > Bastard.) ... but I think he's a pretty decent artist.
>

> Nah, Tobes has one too. You just want to believe Murray bought them all
> so that you won't feel guilty for not buying one yourself.

I just want to believe Murray bought them all because ... it's funnier
that way. And also because I won't feel guilty. Bitch! Stop calling me
out!

> Granted, I didn't buy one either. It was only afterwards that I began
> to appreciate Eggbot. And I was kinda broke at the time anyway.

Maybe I would have bought one of those hand-made live-tape
collectors-item thingys ... but I don't have a tape player in my car.
So, it would have been pointless. That and I too was broke, hence how I
sneakily managed to get my dinner on someone elses tab. Hahaha.



> (anna and i should really not be allowed to communicate in a public
> forum. we make no sense.)

Well, not to anyone else, no. But we don't make sense in a private forum
either, so we're just screwed from the beginning, eh?

-anna-

"just give me a president already! it's time for bed!" -matt.

BBWMinors

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I still find your witty repartee and banter with each other better than some of
the other flame wars and faux-flame-wars of late ... except that I feel like I
accidentally picked up on crossed phone lines, stayed on and want to know what
all these private jokes are when they are clearly NOMB.

BTW, my fam was split on the Jimmie question ... I didn't like his stuff though
I kinda liked the "hit" but I DID like his persona, the cross between David
Cone and Rastaman look ... and I found his ingratiating cuteness endearing as
opposed to Martina's "Oh God I'm Just SO Damned Cute Aren't I" routine ...
while OTOH my hubby really liked him and thinks he was the best Fruvous opener
he'd seen.

lo...@bosconet.org

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"Anna!" wrote:

> Hm. I have no defense for that. Except that I'm fairly sure that you
> now actually *like* said band enough to buy *two* of their CDs ;)

only after being coerced and subjected to it for months running.
*points at anna* she made me! i swear!

> And you haven't even heard the words put *with* the music yet. It's
> going to rival 'Bobby' as our most-loved song.

i just don't see how that could be. i mean, the cheesy lyrics and cheap
rhymes in bobby are unrivaled. and terribly catchy. who doesn't want to
run around singing (or screaming) o/~ i don't wanna have your babies
o/~ over and over again. okay...yeah...

> Hm. I blame it on the free beers that I wasn't getting.

free beer is good. last night my dad bought me a beer while we were
watching election returns in a bar downtown. it was election night and
i live in DC - how could i not go to a bar? although D.C.'s finest hour
seems to be dragging on for an awfully long time...

> Kind of like "Check out the flashing lights!" ?

if you could figure out where that came from i'd pay you. a lot.

> Maybe because I didn't offer my cell-phone :)

hey, your cell phone was actually working that night too. sort of. as
much as it ever works. what a bad person you are for not letting him
call toronto on it to play eggbot for the people.

> Don't get me started on thei Neilds. Okay, fine, you got me started.
> The thing I hate most about the Neilds is that I actually sort of
> like them. But sometimes, those voices make me want to lock my keys
> in the trunk and curl up in a ball and cry. I would probably like
> them quite a bit if I could get past the voices, but it bothers me
> that I should have to make that effort :)

okay, children, don't try this at home. and most definitely not at folk
festivals when all of your stuff is lying on the ground outside the car
and you're tired and want to go home. or go eat huge non-festival-food
meals at mediocre take-out chinese places.

> I just want to believe Murray bought them all because ... it's
> funnier that way. And also because I won't feel guilty. Bitch! Stop
> calling me out!

aha! confession! and *i* am a bitch?

> Maybe I would have bought one of those hand-made live-tape
> collectors-item thingys ... but I don't have a tape player in my car.
> So, it would have been pointless. That and I too was broke, hence how
> I sneakily managed to get my dinner on someone elses tab. Hahaha.

dontcha love it when that happens? i think it might have been the
club's tab though. the free dinner was almost as cool as the free beer
but not quite.

> > (anna and i should really not be allowed to communicate in a public
> > forum. we make no sense.)
>
> Well, not to anyone else, no. But we don't make sense in a private
> forum either, so we're just screwed from the beginning, eh?

i'd like to believe that somewhere in our poor confused little brains
we make sense. please?

/l
making even less sense than usual today

Anna!

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lo...@bosconet.org wrote:

> > Hm. I have no defense for that. Except that I'm fairly sure that you
> > now actually *like* said band enough to buy *two* of their CDs ;)
>
> only after being coerced and subjected to it for months running.
> *points at anna* she made me! i swear!

well, when i'm super cool and famous and i introduce you to the band,
i'll say "this is my pal loren, but she doesn't really like you guys ...
i made her buy your CDs through my secret brainwashing powers of
persuation."



> > And you haven't even heard the words put *with* the music yet. It's
> > going to rival 'Bobby' as our most-loved song.
>
> i just don't see how that could be. i mean, the cheesy lyrics and cheap
> rhymes in bobby are unrivaled. and terribly catchy. who doesn't want to
> run around singing (or screaming) o/~ i don't wanna have your babies
> o/~ over and over again. okay...yeah...

i dunno ...

"i must be pathetic
to dig a guy with two prosthetics
don't you run away from me
hey hey hey ..."

is pretty catchy.

(and don't worry, we're not making fun of legless people here. the end
of the song basically states that it's not pathetic at all to pine over
a boy with no legs.)

> free beer is good. last night my dad bought me a beer while we were
> watching election returns in a bar downtown. it was election night and
> i live in DC - how could i not go to a bar? although D.C.'s finest hour
> seems to be dragging on for an awfully long time...

we never implemented our "bush wins a state, take a shot!" game ... (the
goal was to be passed out when the final returns came in so we would
have time to get used to it.)

however, i was watching the election coverage in a houseful of smokers
who intelligently chose this week as their "non-smoking" week. i had to
run outside everytime i wanted a cigarette, causing my poor friends
inside to go insane ... both matt and ashley finally broke down around
1:30am, and $5 each was deposited into the NRA fund envelope. it was a
banner night for republicans, and we were sober. *shudder*

> > Maybe because I didn't offer my cell-phone :)
>
> hey, your cell phone was actually working that night too. sort of. as
> much as it ever works. what a bad person you are for not letting him
> call toronto on it to play eggbot for the people.

the cell managed to call someone in Baltimore from Portland, Maine ...
impressive considering it has trouble calling my own home phone if I'm
sitting in the living room.

perhaps i should have offered him my phone. i am evil. but at least i'm
charming when i'm bitchy.



> > Don't get me started on thei Neilds. Okay, fine, you got me started.
> > The thing I hate most about the Neilds is that I actually sort of
> > like them. But sometimes, those voices make me want to lock my keys
> > in the trunk and curl up in a ball and cry. I would probably like
> > them quite a bit if I could get past the voices, but it bothers me
> > that I should have to make that effort :)
>
> okay, children, don't try this at home. and most definitely not at folk
> festivals when all of your stuff is lying on the ground outside the car
> and you're tired and want to go home. or go eat huge non-festival-food
> meals at mediocre take-out chinese places.

yeah, so i blame the Neilds for my locking my keys in the trunk. I can't
blame myself, now can I?

i thought the chinese food was very good, though the company i was in
began to freak me out. no matter what anyone says, cherry coke tastes
nothing like cream soda. weirdo.



> > Maybe I would have bought one of those hand-made live-tape
> > collectors-item thingys ... but I don't have a tape player in my car.
> > So, it would have been pointless. That and I too was broke, hence how
> > I sneakily managed to get my dinner on someone elses tab. Hahaha.
>
> dontcha love it when that happens? i think it might have been the
> club's tab though. the free dinner was almost as cool as the free beer
> but not quite.

I don't care whose tab it was, it was really good and free! I didn't get
any free beer, but it was probably better because I would have spilled
it all over the merch table or something. Oh wait ...



> > > (anna and i should really not be allowed to communicate in a public
> > > forum. we make no sense.)
> >
> > Well, not to anyone else, no. But we don't make sense in a private
> > forum either, so we're just screwed from the beginning, eh?
>
> i'd like to believe that somewhere in our poor confused little brains
> we make sense. please?

oh no, i don't think we do. and now, we're just continuing this to be
annoying ;)

> /l
> making even less sense than usual today

now that's scary.

as is the fact that i've posted more pointlessness in the last two days
that i have posted meaningful content in the last two years ...

-anna-

Snow In Summer

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On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:46:02 GMT, Dionysia <Diony...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>best:
>stabbing westward (for depeche mode in '95 and '99)

i wholeheartedly agree w/ that one, but wasn't that in 1998 (not '99)?
ok, when i saw them, it was end of 1998.

alsorans:
Dishwalla (opened for Gin Blossoms in 1996)
Massed Gadgets (opened for The Clarks in 1996): they're not together
anymore, but they were pretty neat. kinda had that long jam-session
type thing (á la the Dead, Rusted Root & Phish)

note: with the exception of Fruvous, very few of the shows i've seen
have had openers. too mainstream, i guess. however, the music that
the Cure used for the hour or so before they came on stage was très
spiffy.


>worst:
>eggbot (for fruvous in portland, maine, this summer)

why do i know that name?? *shrug*

alsorans:
Tory Cassis: so unimpressive... Jeff & i left in search of food and
stayed out of Harbourfront until Fruvous came on

that band who opened for Fruvous @ Pointe-Claire in 1998... who were
they again? i just know that they sucked & their sound guy was drunk
off his ass.

Guster (for GBS in 1999): ok, this is kinda up in the air. i liked
them enough to sign up for their list, but i was turned off by the
"fervor" of a certain fan of their's who walked up to me @ Friendship
Festival & tried to sell me a CD w/o even introducing herself let
alone seeing if i even liked them.

Up with People (for Fruvous in 1999): 'nuff said.

-Snow


Snow In Summer is:
Amy Brunner Buffalo, NY
snonsumr on Undernet ICQ: 66490189
snowgirl at froggernet dot com
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Dionysia

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snowgirl wrt stabbing westward:

> i wholeheartedly agree w/ that one, but wasn't that in 1998 (not '99)?
> ok, when i saw them, it was end of 1998.

my bad...
it was fall of '98.

lo...@bosconet.org

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Nov 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/9/00
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Anna! wrote:

> well, when i'm super cool and famous and i introduce you to the band,
> i'll say "this is my pal loren, but she doesn't really like you
> guys ... i made her buy your CDs through my secret brainwashing
> powers of persuation."

right. i'm resisting the urge to make a crack about spelling. oh, wait,
i just did *g*

*snip lots of good material that i'd love to respond to*

> oh no, i don't think we do. and now, we're just continuing this to be
> annoying ;)

exactly. well, that and because i'm at work and have nothing better to
do except making obnoxious flash to torment our designer.

> as is the fact that i've posted more pointlessness in the last two
> days that i have posted meaningful content in the last two years ...

i know. but it's so much more fun than trying to be coherent. besides,
we're far better at it than at coherence.

/l

Kate Leahy

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Now would probably be a bad time to note that I don't like Martin Sexton either
:).
--Kate

--
Kate Leahy
kle...@loyola.edu
http://kleahy.scribble.nu
She compromised my principles.


Kate Leahy

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Amy Rigby! That's her name! I was there with you, Lisa :). She was horrid and
terrible . . . but her drummer jokes were pretty funny.
--Kate

How do you get a drummer off your doorstep?

Pay for the pizza.


PISCOPINTO

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Nov 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/12/00
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Hey! I saw Jewel open for Peter Murphy, of all people... it was definitely
worth it to watch all the goth girls raise their eyebrows when she started the
50 MPH yodeling. Good stuff!!
*heh*
Angel

PISCOPINTO

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>
>I would give anything to see Jules live

yeah, HELLO?!?!?! Jules Shear DOES have a new release out and do I see any tour
dates here??? NooOOOooOOOo!!! Come ON dude! I've only gotten to see him live
once and that was on the Healing Bones tour (he was playing a club at SXSW in
'96 but I was too young to get in-- thankfully he was at the Silos concert so I
got to chat him up there, that's the last time I've even SEEN him anywhere)
Angel

BBWMinors

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Is there a newer release than "Allow Me"? I know that came out in May or June
... and I'd seen he was playing regularly on Tuesday nights at Fez Under Time
but apparently not after October ...

I'm trying to piece together a decent Jules collection now via eBay and cutout
bins ... finding the stuff I'm missing ... I had forgotten how prolific he was
LOL!!!!!

Lisa

SaphiraCat83

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>Hey! I saw Jewel open for Peter Murphy, of all people... it was definitely
>worth it to watch all the goth girls raise their eyebrows when she started
>the
>50 MPH yodeling. Good stuff!!
>*heh*
>Angel
>
Peter Murphy? Huh! I never knew my creative writing teacher, my brother's
english teacher, and Amanda's dad did gigs! How's about that? ;-)

-Saph

*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." -- Groucho Marx

http://www.geocities.com/saphiracat
*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*

PISCOPINTO

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Nov 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/18/00
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>>
>Peter Murphy? Huh! I never knew my creative writing teacher, my brother's
>english teacher, and Amanda's dad did gigs! How's about that? ;-)
>
>-Saph

And he's one of the most celebrated men in the goth music world!!! Sweeet!
That's alright-- my boyfriend's dad's name is Robert Smith... but he's not
British, nor does he wear makeup!!!
:) Angel
ps. For those of you following the "Mrs. Angel Satan" update, my future hubby
Miroslav is okay with me dating around! I was very proud of his whacking Brett
Hull's nose with his stick the other night during the Sabres/Stars game.
That's my honey!

dncng...@my-deja.com

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In article <8u6u97$map$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

d...@NOSPAMdi.com wrote:
> best:
> stabbing westward (for depeche mode in '95 and '99)
> primal scream (for depeche mode in '95)
> linee perroncel (for ani difranco at mount holyoke college - my alma
> mater - in '95)
> the cruxshadows (for clan of xymox in '99)
>

This is the point at which I'm obligated to say:

If yer curious about the Cruxshadows and their new-wavey/dark synthy
sound, you can get a few legal mp3s at

http://www.mp3.com/cruxshadows/

So take a peek!

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