Olivia Newton John Suprise Marriage
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...as well as the oft-repeated line as to how Kirshner created the
Monkees. I think I'm beginning to understand the reasonings behind
Bert and Bob firing Kirshner. It wasn't that Kirshner wouldn't let the
Monkees play on their recordings, it's that Kirshner was taking credit
for having created the Monkees, instead of Bert and Bob. And that
must've got to both of them.
But, congratulations to Olivia on her surprise marriage and for
having the fortitude to go through with the wedding even though the
fires in southern California threatened the proceedings. She had a
song on her album "The Rumour," which I believe was titled "Walk
Through Fire." Don't think the song was played at her wedding but it
could've been an appropriate song.
The
<catgo...@aol.com> wrote:
.....> But, congratulations to Olivia on her surprise marriage and
for
> having the fortitude to go through with the wedding even though the
> fires in southern California threatened the proceedings. She had a
> song on her album "The Rumour," which I believe was titled "Walk
> Through Fire." Don't think the song was played at her wedding but it
> could've been an appropriate song.
Wow, really, that could have been a theme song...for quite a few
Californians right now too! I wish her the best. She's had a lot of
ups and downs in her life ( the downs including her Koala Blue
clothing company going under, getting cancer and having a long-time
boyfriend disappear under a cloud of suspicion) and she deserves
happiness.
catg...@aol.com
> Californians right now too! I wish her the best. She's had a lot of
> ups and downs in her life ( the downs including her Koala Blue
> clothing company going under, getting cancer and having a long-time
> boyfriend disappear under a cloud of suspicion) and she deserves
> happiness.
Add to the cancer story her first husband cheating on her with the
nurse who came to her home to check her vitals, give her shots or
whatever else was needed for her recovery. That had to be an extremely
depressing time for her, one that could've caused an adverse reaction
to her recovery. But, she was and is a very strong, upbeat and
positive person. I'd like to see more of her music here in the US.
She's done quite a few albums since her cancer that have been
Australian only releases and as a result, very expensive to come by.
I've always liked her music but many of the movies she has done since
"Grease" and "Xanadu" are of questionable value, grade Zzzzzzzzzzzs.
She deserves better but I guess she's okay with the roles she's
getting.
The
<catgo...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Add to the cancer story her first husband cheating on her with the
> nurse who came to her home to check her vitals, give her shots or
> whatever else was needed for her recovery. That had to be an extremely
> depressing time for her, one that could've caused an adverse reaction
That reminds me of Newt Gingrich, the politician, who told his wife -
while she was in the hospital with cancer, right after she got out of
surgery - that he wanted a divorce. He had a girlfriend he wanted to
marry, so...you know. Best to hurry things up. Good Lord. People can
be so ugly.
catg...@aol.com
> while she was in the hospital with cancer, right after she got out of
> surgery - that he wanted a divorce. He had a girlfriend he wanted to
> marry, so...you know. Best to hurry things up. Good Lord. People can
> be so ugly.
Newt, and a few of his fellow Republicans were bloody hypocrites on
the Monica Lewinsky scandal that dogged Bill Clinton when he was
president. They talked family values but didn't practice what they
preached. That's not to condone what Bill Clinton did but for the
Republicans sitting in their ivory towers condemning Clinton for the
same, well, I think the Republican would've been well advised to have
followed the title of an Elvis hit from '69, "Clean Up Your Own
Backyard." Or followed the words of Jesus: let he who is without sin
cast the first stone. A lot of Republicans professed their
Christianity as part of their family values, but I guess they thought
that because they were Christians, that meant they could still throw
stones at others.
radiomd
<c3c9a22e-5b42-4f56...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"catgod29@home_on_the_range.com" <catg...@aol.com> wrote:
> A lot of Republicans professed their
> Christianity as part of their family values, but I guess they thought
> that because they were Christians, that meant they could still throw
> stones at others.
Was the Christian Right ever about Christianity? My recollection is that
in its first national campaign, the 1980 presidential election, it
forcefully aligned itself against the candidate who identified himself
as an evangelical Christian. That was their signature moment, as far as
I'm concerned.
The
<catgo...@aol.com> wrote:
> Newt, and a few of his fellow Republicans were bloody hypocrites on
> the Monica Lewinsky scandal that dogged Bill Clinton when he was
> president. They talked family values but didn't practice what they
> preached. That's not to condone what Bill Clinton did but for the
> Republicans sitting in their ivory towers condemning Clinton for the
> same, well, I think the Republican would've been well advised to have
> followed the title of an Elvis hit from '69, "Clean Up Your Own
> Backyard." Or followed the words of Jesus: let he who is without sin
> cast the first stone. A lot of Republicans professed their
> Christianity as part of their family values, but I guess they thought
> that because they were Christians, that meant they could still throw
> stones at others.
As far as I'm concerned the only thing Bill Clinton did that was
eyebrow-raising was lying to the grand jury. But...most people lie
about sex and public figures who are married almost ALWAYS lie about
sex. The real shameful scandal to me was that Ken Starr's office spent
$40 million on that charade. How dare they. We can't feed the poor,
pay our public servants more, give our firefighters better
benefits...but we can spend $40 million on a blow-job?
Whoops, sorry. I really get mad when I think about it.
catg...@aol.com
> in its first national campaign, the 1980 presidential election, it
> forcefully aligned itself against the candidate who identified himself
> as an evangelical Christian. That was their signature moment, as far as
> I'm concerned.
They said they were all about Christianity but their actions made them
the exact opposite of what they claimed to be. Many acted in an
antiChristian way that should've made all true Christians shudder with
nervousness and run just as fast as they could away from such people.
After all, if those of the Christian Right were acting in an
antiChristian manner, shouldn't that have suggested to true Christians
that those on the Christian Right could be accused of being in league
with the one they dreaded the most, the AntiChrist?
But, there were a lot of Christian people who sided with them just
because they proclaimed themselves Christians. They never thought to
look beyond the superficial Christianity label to see if some of the
people of the Christian Right were people they needed to be
associating with. I once heard the late Rev. Jerry Falwell say on
national TV after Ronald Reagan won the presidency in '80, that it was
the far right's turn to step on people's rights. That scared the hell
out of me. The far right's turn to step on people's rights? That
comment still sends shivers down my spine.
catg...@aol.com
> eyebrow-raising was lying to the grand jury. But...most people lie
> about sex and public figures who are married almost ALWAYS lie about
> sex. The real shameful scandal to me was that Ken Starr's office spent
> $40 million on that charade. How dare they. We can't feed the poor,
> pay our public servants more, give our firefighters better
> benefits...but we can spend $40 million on a blow-job?
No kidding! And to make the sham even better, you had all those money-
tight Republicans who whined (and still whine) about pork barrel
projects and earmarks not lift a finger or raise a hand in objection
to the money being spent by Starr. They wanted to nail Clinton, not
because he lied or got a bj from Monica but because he defeated George
Bush in '92 and then defeated Dole in '96. They couldn't believe the
voters preferred Clinton over Bush and Dole, so they looked around for
anything they could use to remove him from office. So, Clinton's lie
about oral sex from Monica was what they were looking for and they
didn't really mind trashing Monica in the process. Their own behavior
in their gotcha game was and is one of the more shameful and
disgusting acts in our country. They all should've resigned from their
seats but not before exiling themselves to the most repressive country
in the middle east!
> Whoops, sorry. I really get mad when I think about it.
Another thing which makes me mad is that I heard the members of the
Republican party state during the Clinton scandal that if it was one
of their own who was president who was caught lying or some other real
treasonous crime, they wouldn't hesitate to make a motion for
impeachment and removal of that president. Bush and Cheney have
provided more than ample reasons to justify their impeachment and
removal. But, where are all those bills of impeachment the Republican
right said they'd introduce to remove one of their own? Were they too
busy goosestepping down Pennsylvania Avenue to be bothered with that?
As for the elections this year, I don't really see McCain winning in
November (I think Senator Ted Kennedy's brain cancer will be an issue
with the voters as he's not that much older than McCain), so my guess
is the conservative right Republicans in the congress and senate will
once again take up arms in an effort to find something that can bring
down President Obama. But, the gotcha games really need to stop and
our elected leaders need to focus on the problems our country and the
world are in right now. We're living in desperate times, far worse
than the Great Depression of the 20s. This time, I think we -- and a
lot of the world -- could go belly up if there are no efforts to
change the path we're on.
The
<catgo...@aol.com> wrote:
>... But, where are all those bills of impeachment the Republican
> right said they'd introduce to remove one of their own? Were they too
> busy goosestepping down Pennsylvania Avenue to be bothered with that?
Absolutely.
The Republicans seemed to be the only ones who didn't enjoy the
Clinton years. The sane rest of the country was making money,
supporting the arts, enjoying relative peace in the world, unfettered
travel, freedom of expression, low gas prices, decent tuition, state
parks with no oil drilling, and all manner of quality of life, not to
mention the pesky fact that many parents went about their lives
knowing their children wouldn't get killed in a foreign land for no
good reason. Boy, the Clinton years really sucked, right? (-;
catg...@aol.com
> Clinton years. The sane rest of the country was making money,
> supporting the arts, enjoying relative peace in the world, unfettered
> travel, freedom of expression, low gas prices, decent tuition, state
> parks with no oil drilling, and all manner of quality of life, not to
> mention the pesky fact that many parents went about their lives
> knowing their children wouldn't get killed in a foreign land for no
> good reason. Boy, the Clinton years really sucked, right? (-;
The Republicans enjoyed it but they couldn't bring themselves to admit
that Clinton made it all possible and not them. Ronald Reagan's
trickle down effect didn't refer directly to the economy, it meant
passing the buck. When times are good, it was because of a Republican
president and.or congress and senate. If times were bad, the bad times
were caused by the Democrats. For the seven and a half years that
Dumbya Bush and Pumpkinhead Cheney have been in office, the
Republicans have insisted Bush and Cheney weren't responsible for the
bad times. It's all Bill Clinton's fault.
Just today in the local paper, I read another whine as to how it's
Bill Clinton's fault that we can't open up the ANWR to drill for oil.
The idiot doesn't realize that with an estimated ten years to complete
and a finite amount of oil, that won't solve our problems. Where were
the Republicans when they held the majority in the congress and the
senate during six years of Dumbya Bush's term in office? How come if
the ANWR is the answer to all our prayers for oil, the Republicans
didn't open up the ANWR to the oil companies when they were the ones
in power? The Republicans, of course, being the friends of big
business and oil companies in particular. And how come Dumbya won't
open our 700 million barrels of oil in reserve to ease off the high
prices? That would only be a temporary fix.
But truth be told, every time talk is made about coming up with
alternative methods of energy, the Republicans block research and
developement programs on the grounds that such R&D are pork barrel
projects and they won't allow any earmarks to be allocated. The funds
have got to come from the private sector and not from government.
Well, the taxes that we've paid in came from the private sector and if
there's a choice between choosing to spend a trillion dollars on a
middle eastern war started by Bush-Cheney and spending a trillion on
R&D, I want my tax dollars to go to research and developement and not
earmarked for the war in Iraq.
The
drilling in ANWAR and he voted with the liberals and voted against it,
comparing it to drilling in the grand canyon or the everglades and
calling it not acceptable. He made a lot of conservatives mad when he
did that. I was very pleased with him for voting it down. How did
Clinton get blamed for that one? Of course, McCain will change his
mind on ANWAR now, unfortunately.
Those wacky Republicans. They don't know crapola.
NevermindTheFurthermore
they a great band?!!
The
> Hey, how 'bout them MONKEES here on alt.binaries.MONKEES?! Weren't
> they a great band?!!
Yes, but it's an election year. And there's no reunion in sight.
But...go ahead and start a Monkees discussion, I'll join in.
As long as you aren't a Republican.
(Just jokin')
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> drilling in ANWAR and he voted with the liberals and voted against it,
> comparing it to drilling in the grand canyon or the everglades and
> calling it not acceptable. He made a lot of conservatives mad when he
> did that.
This must be what the conservative Republicans: that McCain, should he
win the election, will go back to being the maverick firebrand, the
one who had no problem reaching across the isle.
>I was very pleased with him for voting it down. How did
> Clinton get blamed for that one? Of course, McCain will change his
> mind on ANWAR now, unfortunately.
>
Clinton gets the blame because of the Republican (Reagan) trickle down
effect: take the credit when times are good but pass the buck when
times are bad. It's not poor ol' Dumbya's fault: he just inherited the
bad times that were the natural outcome of the failed policies of the
Clinton administration. I've always wanted to know the answer to my
question to Republicans: when, if ever does this president and his
political party take the responsibility for their actions? Dumbya
might have been able to have argued in his first term that he
inherited some something from the Clinton administration -- the good
times, but the ugly of that is that Dumbya quickly laid the good times
to waste. The citizens of this country had to pay for having twice
elected Clinton. We did, a majority of the voters gave Dumbya two
terms and his ineptness has wrecked our country. But, of course, the
Republican trickle still passes the buck to Clinton. The Republicans
held control in the congress and senate during Clinton's terms and the
first six years of Dumbya's. Dumbya Bushwrecked the country and many
of his fellow Republicans were willing accomplices to the crimes. For
their treasonous actions, the Republican party should be
disenfranchised for the next 200 years.
> Those wacky Republicans. They don't know crapola.
I'm hopeful the voters will keep in mind the seven wonderful years
we've had under Bushwreck. They should remember that before Bush took
his oath of office, the price of a gallon of gas was under $2.00 a
gallon. In seven wonderful Bush-filled years, the price has more than
doubled in some areas. Bush now is using the people's discontent to
beat the drum for opening the ANWR region and more offshore drilling.
Oilman T. Boone Pickens, no superliberal but a genuine conservative
Republican, has seen the writing on the wall. He says we can't drill
our way out of this mess and that it's time we start seriously looking
at alternative forms of energy. What a shame his fellow conservative
Republicans seem to think the answer is destroying the Arctic and the
oceans.
catg...@aol.com
> > they a great band?!!
>
> Yes, but it's an election year. And there's no reunion in sight.
>
> But...go ahead and start a Monkees discussion, I'll join in.
>
> As long as you aren't a Republican.
>
> (Just jokin')
We're just monkeying around with the 2008 politics, but to bring the
Monkees into the political discourse, some appropriate Monkee songs
for Obama, McCain, Hillary, Gore, Bill Clinton, Mitt, etc.:
For Obama: "I'm A Believer," "Steppin' Stone" (dedication to the 527
groups), "Take A Giant Step," "Can You Dig It," "Changes."
For McCain: "Daydream Believer," "Hard To Believe," "This Just Doesn't
Seem To Be My Day," "Early Morning Blues And Greens," "Looking For The
Good Times," "The Door Into Summer," "What Am I Doing Hangin' 'Round."
For Hillary: "I'll Be Back Upon My Feet" (side dedication and good
wishes to Sen. Ted Kennedy), "Laugh," "I Don't Think You Know Me,"
"All The King's Horses," "No Time."
For Bill C.: "Sweet Young Thing," "The Kind Of Girl I Could Love,"
"She," "I Can't Get Her Off My Mind," "Forget That Girl," "The Day We
Fall In Love," "Cuddly Toy," "All Of Your Toys," "The Girl I Left
Behind Me," "Bye Bye Baby Bye Bye," "Good Clean Fun," "Words," "Don't
Call On Me," "Don't Wait For Me," "Star Collector," "Love Is Only
Sleeping," "Sunny Girlfriend," "Come On In," "Time And Time Again,"
"Never Tell A Woman Yes," "The Girl I Knew Somewhere," "She Hangs
Out." (Damn! I didn't know there were that many Monkee songs that
could be applicable to Bill Clinton!)
For Al Gore: "Writing Wrongs," "Daily Nightly," "Salesman,"
"Hollywood."
For Mitt Romney: "Ladies Aid Society," "Gonna Buy Me A Dog."
For Dumbya Bush: "Goin' Down," "Look Out (Here Comes Tomorrow),"
"Midnight Train," "Zor And Zam," "Auntie's Municipal Court," "Mommy
And Daddy" (Version 1), "Dream World," "War Games."
For Dick Cheney: "Your Auntie Grizelda" -- only because he is his
auntie Grizelda!
For Bill Richardson: "Nine Times Blue," "Some Of Shelly's Blues."
For John Edwards: "A Man Without A Dream," "Shades Of Gray," "Sometime
In The Morning," "My Storybook Of You." (for his wife).
For Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton: "Kicking Stones," "While I Cry," "Tear
Drop City."
For Rudy Guiliani: "Tomorrow's Gonna Be Another Day."
All losers (this one doesn't apply to Bush and Cheney): "Long Title:
Do I Have To Do This All Over Again?"
Bush and Cheney as losers: "The Crippled Lion," "Listen To The
Band" (with a side of "Na na na na (x2)...hey hey...goodbye").
catg...@aol.com
> > Monkees into the political discourse, some appropriate Monkee songs
>
> Ha! Love it.
>
> �Yeah, it's easy to get off on a political rant, esp. in these days of
> unrest and high prices. To those who are bored by it: please forgive
> us and thanks in advance for granting a little OT leeway if you will.
> (-:
>
I tend to think if there were more political discussions, more
"vetting" (what an asinine word) of the candidates, we might have
avoided two terms of Bush. The people of this country aren't
comfortable talking about their politics. They'd rather hear thirty
second soundbites than hear a candidate talk at length about what he
or she wants to do as president or as a congressman or senator. People
should treat politicians running for office as a person applying for a
job; if you can't give a good accounting of yourself during an
interview, you don't get the job. It goes to someone else. Bush and
Cheney should've been fired after the first term; instead, they played
on the fears of the people and won the second term.
> I will tell you this: I've had political discussions with several of
> the Monkees and they hold some interesting views, for sure. Not so
> different from ours. In some cases, not different at all, catgod.
I figure Davy is the most conservative member of the Monkees with Mike
and Peter likely the most liberal. Mike said in the early 70s that he
and Peter shared a few things in common, including politics. But, he
also said he didn't like Peter, which was something I didn't
understand. If they had almost everything in common, that should've
been good for a lasting friendship. Maybe their personalities just
didn't gel or they were on the outs with each other at the time Nez
was quoted.