For you Peter Tork fans
Tin@
Center for the Performing Arts on Oct 7. Tickets are $30. That's in
orange Co., Calif, BTW.
The Weary Professor
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Tin@
> I live in New Jersey. I better start walking now!'
Or you could hop on a plane, IN OCTOBER!
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> > Peter Tork and the Shoe Suede Blues will be playing at The Cerritos
> > Center for the Performing Arts on Oct 7. Tickets are $30. That's in
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Tin@
> Nah, that's too easy. A true fan would hike it, For Pete's Sake.
Well, then start walking, I'm not even going, as Peter isnt one of my
faves. I'd LOVE to see Micky, but he doesn't seem to play out this
way.
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> >> I live in New Jersey. I better start walking now!'
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> > Or you could hop on a plane, IN OCTOBER!
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> >> > Center for the Performing Arts on Oct 7. Tickets are $30. That's in
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The Weary Professor
Parsippany He was great. He did Clarksville, Steppin' Stone, I'm a
Believer and a couple of non-Monkee songs, Purple Haze and Gimme Some Lovin.
He played guitar and his voice is still terrific. According to his website
he's playing another concert in Manalapan, NJ next month. It's a bit of a
drive but I may go.
I have no idea where you are in CA, but according to Micky's website he's
playing 7/25 at Raley Field
400 Ball Park Drive
West Sacramento, CA 95691. Maybe you could catch him then.
Nice chatting with you, Tin.
Frank
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Tin@
> We seem to get Micky a lot in NJ. I just saw him perform last month in
> Parsippany He was great. He did Clarksville, Steppin' Stone, I'm a
> Believer and a couple of non-Monkee songs, Purple Haze and Gimme Some Lovin.
> He played guitar and his voice is still terrific. According to his website
> he's playing another concert in Manalapan, NJ next month. It's a bit of a
> drive but I may go.
>
> I have no idea where you are in CA, but according to Micky's website he's
> playing 7/25 at Raley Field
> 400 Ball Park Drive
> West Sacramento, CA 95691. Maybe you could catch him then.
>
> Nice chatting with you, Tin.
>
> Frank
I'm in So Cal, so that wont work.
Her Majesty
> Well, then start walking, I'm not even going, as Peter isnt one of my
> faves. I'd LOVE to see Micky, but he doesn't seem to play out this
> way.
Micky said keep checking for dates! I haven't seen him in TOO LONG
either!!
Her Majesty
> We seem to get Micky a lot in NJ. I just saw him perform last month in
> Parsippany He was great. He did Clarksville, Steppin' Stone, I'm a
> Believer and a couple of non-Monkee songs, Purple Haze and Gimme Some Lovin.
Whaaaaa??????? All of Purple Haze? Gimme Some Lovin is a new
addition (for me). Nice!!!
Micky is such a pro. He's done this for so long. I love the ease
with which he performs. He makes it look so easy!!!
> He played guitar and his voice is still terrific. According to his website
> he's playing another concert in Manalapan, NJ next month. It's a bit of a
> drive but I may go.
>
> I have no idea where you are in CA, but according to Micky's website he's
> playing 7/25 at Raley Field
> 400 Ball Park Drive
> West Sacramento, CA 95691. Maybe you could catch him then.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Evil Rev Returns
Elvi")
ER
The Weary Professor
The Dead Elvi is the Chiller Theatre Convention's house band and Micky
played with them in Spring 2008 and 2009. Every saturday night during the
convention there's a big music party in the main "pit" area and this year
they had Taylor Dayne, Mark Slaughter, Micky Dolenz and the 80s band Missing
Persons. One of the Dead Elvi members is Kevin, the guy who runs the
conventions, by the way.
They have the cons twice a year (spring and fall) and the guest lists are
usually over a hundred celebrities. This year they had Tony Curtis, last
fall they had Leslie Nielson. In the past they've had Val Kilmer. They get
some fairly big names. If you live in the New Jersey or New York area
they're a lot of fun to attend and I always find some really oddball stuff
in the dealer's room.
Frank
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The Weary Professor
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> Whaaaaa??????? All of Purple Haze? Gimme Some Lovin is a new
> addition (for me). Nice!!!
Yes, all of Purple Haze. He does this bit (which is also on his live album)
where he describes what it was like when Hendrix opened for the Monkees. He
starts playing Purple Haze then interrupts himself by chanting "WE WANT
DAVY! WE WANT MICKY!" Everybody laughs, then he says "Hey, that sounded
pretty good. Want to hear the rest of the song?" The crowd cheers and then
he plays the whole thing.
Gimme Some Lovin was a surprise to me, too. Sounded great, though.
Frank
giggles
> "Her Majesty" <nicholecho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
When I saw him in August last year he was also doing "Oh! Darling".
Sounded super! Coco sang "White Rabbit" which made the group of 60-
somethings in front of us get up and leave! lol But the biggest
surprise was in October when he actually sand "Don't Do It." I nearly
fell over from that one. He changes his show up quite often so it's
always a treat to see him perform.
Dr. Strangemonde
> We seem to get Micky a lot in NJ.
I think the last time MD played here in Austin was at an in-store for
his Kid Rhino release, and that was his mother (now RIP) lived here at
the time. (Don't go buggy, detail-freaks -- she only lived here
briefly or something, but we've already verified that my memory is
correct on that fact!)
Mike of course has roots in Texas, and Peter occasionally shows up at
the Cactus Cafe on UT campus (coincidentally downstairs from the
Longhorn Ballroom where Nez did one of his best-remembered full-band
country gigs).
Tangentially, see my new post entitled: "What Are You Doing Hangin'
'Round?"
-- Dr S
Her Majesty
> > Whaaaaa??????? All of Purple Haze? Gimme Some Lovin is a new
> > addition (for me). Nice!!!
>
> Yes, all of Purple Haze. He does this bit (which is also on his live album)
> where he describes what it was like when Hendrix opened for the Monkees. He
> starts playing Purple Haze then interrupts himself by chanting "WE WANT
> DAVY! WE WANT MICKY!" Everybody laughs, then he says "Hey, that sounded
> pretty good. Want to hear the rest of the song?" The crowd cheers and then
> he plays the whole thing.
Ohhhh, yes, now I remember! I've seen that bit many times!
> Gimme Some Lovin was a surprise to me, too. Sounded great, though.
That man can sing the phone book & enchant the world :)
Her Majesty
> On May 19, 9:04 pm, "The Weary Professor" <ohwel...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Her Majesty" <nicholecho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:3f1787ba-4253-419c...@r13g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Whaaaaa??????? All of Purple Haze? Gimme Some Lovin is a new
> > > addition (for me). Nice!!!
>
> > Yes, all of Purple Haze. He does this bit (which is also on his live album)
> > where he describes what it was like when Hendrix opened for the Monkees. He
> > starts playing Purple Haze then interrupts himself by chanting "WE WANT
> > DAVY! WE WANT MICKY!" Everybody laughs, then he says "Hey, that sounded
> > pretty good. Want to hear the rest of the song?" The crowd cheers and then
> > he plays the whole thing.
>
> > Gimme Some Lovin was a surprise to me, too. Sounded great, though.
>
> > Frank
>
> When I saw him in August last year he was also doing "Oh! Darling".
> Sounded super!
I bet!
> Coco sang "White Rabbit" which made the group of 60-
> somethings in front of us get up and leave! lol
Leave?! I love Coco. Love "White Rabbit."
> But the biggest
> surprise was in October when he actually sand "Don't Do It." I nearly
> fell over from that one. He changes his show up quite often so it's
> always a treat to see him perform.
Fantastic!!!
The Weary Professor
week and when I watched one of the bonus features I was surprised to learn
Micky did one of the character's voices on the old Funky Phantom cartoon
series. Very cool! I just wish some of the cartoons on the set held up a
little better. I can't believe I sat through some of that stuff way back
when without barfing up my Frankenberry cereal.
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> somethings in front of us get up and leave! lol
Leave?! I love Coco. Love "White Rabbit."
I think they left because they couldn't take the more psychedelic
stuff. "Purple Haze" and then "White Rabbit." Or maybe they only
wanted to hear the familiar Monkees songs. Who knows? I was having too
good of a time to really care. I didn't mean to imply that Coco didn't
give a good performance. On the contrary...she rocked!
> But the biggest
> surprise was in October when he actually sang "Don't Do It." I nearly
> fell over from that one. He changes his show up quite often so it's
> always a treat to see him perform.
Fantastic!!!
You can see Coco singing "White Rabbit" at Railroad Days in Chicago
last year on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySCktWNpwxI
And here's part of Micky's performance of "Don't Do It" along with
"Johnny B. Goode" from the show I was at.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEbuGQv1OzE
I just picked up that Saturday Morning 1970s 2 DVD set that came out
this
week and when I watched one of the bonus features I was surprised to
learn
Micky did one of the character's voices on the old Funky Phantom
cartoon
series. Very cool! I just wish some of the cartoons on the set held
up a
little better. I can't believe I sat through some of that stuff way
back
when without barfing up my Frankenberry cereal.
LOL! I know what you mean. Cartoon Network's Boomerang was showing all
of the old Funky Phantom cartoons recently. I love Micky and always
have, but I just couldn't sit through those things again! Bugs Bunny
they ain't! The same thing happened when I bought a DVD of "Treasure
Island" (I think) that Davy did a voice for. Pee-yew! I have it only
to say I have it because I couldn't even make it through the thing
once! :-)
giggles
his Kid Rhino release, and that was his mother (now RIP) lived here
at
the time. (Don't go buggy, detail-freaks -- she only lived here
briefly or something, but we've already verified that my memory is
correct on that fact!)
Well, I don't know where Stafford is in relation to Austin, but
according to Micky's website he's going to be there on Sept. 19 with
the Teen Idols show. Here's the info:
Stafford Center
10505 Cash Road
Stafford, TX 77477
Visit the Venue's website at:
Her Majesty
> > Coco sang "White Rabbit" which made the group of 60-
> > somethings in front of us get up and leave! lol
>
> Leave?! I love Coco. Love "White Rabbit."
>
> I think they left because they couldn't take the more psychedelic
> stuff. "Purple Haze" and then "White Rabbit."
Sorry. Does not compute. What is..."too much...psychedelia?" Does
not compute.
> Or maybe they only
> wanted to hear the familiar Monkees songs. Who knows? I was having too
> good of a time to really care. I didn't mean to imply that Coco didn't
> give a good performance. On the contrary...she rocked!
She always does.
> You can see Coco singing "White Rabbit" at Railroad Days in Chicago
> last year on YouTube.
Thank you!!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySCktWNpwxI
>
> And here's part of Micky's performance of "Don't Do It" along with
> "Johnny B. Goode" from the show I was at.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEbuGQv1OzE
Bless you!
Evil Rev Returns
clips at http://dallasteaparty.org/2009/07/videos-from-americas-tea-party/
As a registered Republican, I say thanks, Micky.
ER
Jan
That is one show I must say I am very glad I missed.
Jan
catg...@aol.com
> Jan
Republicans are people who don't pay taxes but think everyone else
should pay theirs, so I kind of wonder what do they think they have
got to protest about with the tea parties? I know the answer: anything
and everything to do with government spending. But, I'd like to here
and now invite them to feel free to stop paying any taxes they may
actually pay, but in return, they must stop using our highways, the
public's airwaves (since the airwaves are owned by the public), any
government agency they use to manuever around laws they're breaking,
complaining about the decisions by the Supreme Court, bellyaching to
our elected representatives about anything and everything, our
libraries, anything our government supplies for the public good. In
short, why should the hypocrites benefit from the things they claim to
despise? Let them figure out their own way to get around without using
our streets and highways and fine them heavily if they are caught
using the roads. The tea party charlatans are make believe anarchists
who believe they are saving the US from the government but we are the
government, so what the tea party fakers really oppose are the rest of
us since their only concern seems to be that government must be by
their way or no way at all.
Jan
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Now tell us how (we) REALLY feel...LOL!
Jan
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>
> Jan
I really do go for the jugular, don't I? LOL! But, listening to the
constant barrage of Republican sniping about government spending and
yet wanting the government to give legislation favorable to big
business or whatever else they want, a good many Republicans want all
of the benefits without having to pay for it. In other words, they
want the very thing they claim to despise: the free lunch!
Tin@
> > That is one show I must say I am very glad I missed.
> > Jan
>
> Republicans are people who don't pay taxes but think everyone else
> should pay theirs,
WRONG! We just dont think we should have to support those too lazy to
work.
Jan
On Jul 18, 10:53 pm, catgo...@aol.com wrote:
> > That is one show I must say I am very glad I missed.
> > Jan
>
> Republicans are people who don't pay taxes but think everyone else
> should pay theirs,
>WRONG! We just dont think we should have to support those too lazy to
>work.
Or too sick to work, or too old to work, or mentally unable to work. If
this country had been controlled completely by Repubs, we'd be like China
with people sitting on the side of the street with leprosy or deformities
selling pencils to survive...and starving. It's bad enough that we have the
homeless people we have now. I shudder to think how it would be if we
didn't have Dems to counter-balance the Repub way of thinking.
But let a Republican get Parkinson's or end up as a like Christopher Reeve,
and all of a sudden things like stem-cell research and government health
subsidies look a whole lot better. I don't want to support lazy people
either...but the answer is to find a better way to monitor the system...not
to reduce it. Nobody in a country such as this should have to go without
health care, food, or a place to live.
Jan
catg...@aol.com
> > should pay theirs,
>
> WRONG! We just dont think we should have to support those too lazy to
> work.
Numbers please. I don't think there are that many people in our
country too lazy to work. I think most people would work if they could
get the jobs that are supposed to be out there. Republicans right now
are having brain seizures over the idea of a national health care
plan, which is a good idea. Of course, Republicans would rather the
free market offer the health care plans but that is what you've had
before this debate, and what you had were insurance companies charging
outrageous rates and disqualifying people for having pre-existing
conditions. The insurance companies had no problem in the government
making auto insurance mandatory but national health care is not going
to put them out of business. They can compete for someone's money and
they may offer better service than what the government will offer but
they just can't exclude someone because of a pre-existing condition or
charge them outrageous fees. The free market system works when
companies have to compete, but it's not a free market system when you
can keep people out of the system.
As for people too lazy to work, I think we all have issues with people
like that, but when there are no jobs or the economic times are so bad
that it allows an employer to be more discriminating as to who he or
she hires, that part of the free market system is broke and in need of
fixing. When the economy was going great guns, employers sometimes
couldn't find enough people to work for them. The more successful
employers realized you had to offer good starting wages, something
more than the minimum wage. During the years of Bush the Terribly
Incompetent, someone working for minimum wage couldn't afford a house,
a car, a telephone, the utilities, food, gas, mandatory car insurance.
The $4 to $5 per gallon gas under Bush's watch, how many people
earning $10 an hour or less, do you suppose were able to make ends
meet? Minimum wage is crap pay and needs to be replaced with a livable
wage, wages to be determined based on each community's economy. I'd
even throw the employers a bone, offering them a 15-year tax incentive
for putting people back to work. But, that incentive would also be
contingent on the employee remaining employed after his or her
probationary period, and any employer could only fire an employee for
cause rather than the employee working at will of the employer. There
are always solutions but the Republicans seem only to want to stick
with the ones that are broken, rather than fixing and improving the
system.
WilliamWMeyer
> On Jul 18, 10:53 pm, catgo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > That is one show I must say I am very glad I missed.
> > > Jan
> >
> > Republicans are people who don't pay taxes but think everyone else
> > should pay theirs,
>
>
> WRONG! We just dont think we should have to support those too lazy to
> work.
>
>
That's the cover story the lobbyists for big business, the financial
industry, and the lobbyists who work for foreign manufacturers would have
you believe.
Read America: Who Stole the Dream by America and America: What Went Wrong,
by Donald L. Barlett and James B. Steele, two reporters from the
Philadelphia Enquirer
--WilliamW
Jan
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I guess I'm an idiot, but I truly believe in Gene Roddenberry's dream of the
future when there is no money, no hunger, and things are different. Until
things like medicine and simple basic needs are "socialized" for lack of a
better word, this can't happen. So I'm all for it. An awful lot of his
dreams have happened. I hope that the Star Trek universe will be a reality
too. Not in my lifetime, of course.
Jan
Uni
Workers Unions and greedy American who need them, screwed America up,
beyond repair. That's why I now hear Workers Unions defending their
actions on radio, to justify their existence!!! Abolish them, I say,
they are no good and not needed anymore!
Uni
>
> --WilliamW
>
>
>
>
WilliamWMeyer
>> That's the cover story the lobbyists for big business, the financial
>> industry, and the lobbyists who work for foreign manufacturers would have
>> you believe.
>>
>> Read America: Who Stole the Dream by America and America: What Went
>> Wrong, by Donald L. Barlett and James B. Steele, two reporters from the
>> Philadelphia Enquirer
>
> Workers Unions and greedy American who need them, screwed America up,
> beyond repair. That's why I now hear Workers Unions defending their
> actions on radio, to justify their existence!!! Abolish them, I say, they
> are no good and not needed anymore!
>
Unionization in the early 20th century is largely responsible for the
existence of the middle class for much of that century.
The current economic thinking is that there will not be much work for
below-college-educated people in the future. One might say that that implies
the death of the union, as you're sort of saying. But since we essentially
live in an oligarchy of the rich and powerful already, there's nothing to
say that it might not be in the interest of those white collar workers of
the future to engage in collective bargaining.
Who are "the greedy Americans who need [unions]? the union members? Your
comment just sounds like sour grapes. If you had a union to join in your
line of work, I bet you'd be happy to join it.
Tin@
> "Tin@" <tinas49...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
If it was better monitored, it would reduce it. In a good way.
Tin@
My sister does. And I live just east of LA. If you want a better
life, you have to do better.
>Minimum wage is crap pay and needs to be replaced with a livable
> wage, wages to be determined based on each community's economy. I'd
> even throw the employers a bone, offering them a 15-year tax incentive
> for putting people back to work. But, that incentive would also be
> contingent on the employee remaining employed after his or her
> probationary period, and any employer could only fire an employee for
> cause rather than the employee working at will of the employer. There
> are always solutions but the Republicans seem only to want to stick
> with the ones that are broken, rather than fixing and improving the
> system.
Riiiight.
Tin@
I wouldnt, never, ever, ever. I think unions are in business these
days to keep unions in business, not for the good of the employees.
WilliamWMeyer
> > The current economic thinking is that there will not be much work for
> > below-college-educated people in the future. One might say that that
> > implies
> > the death of the union, as you're sort of saying. But since we
> > essentially
> > live in an oligarchy of the rich and powerful already, there's nothing
> > to
> > say that it might not be in the interest of those white collar workers
> > of
> > the future to engage in collective bargaining.
> >
> > Who are "the greedy Americans who need [unions]? the union members? Your
> > comment just sounds like sour grapes. If you had a union to join in your
> > line of work, I bet you'd be happy to join it.
>
> I wouldnt, never, ever, ever. I think unions are in business these
> days to keep unions in business, not for the good of the employees.
Okay, put it another way. A friend of mine (who is not even in the union)
does carpentry in Illinois and Tennessee. Tennessee is a right-to-work state
and he can make about $12 to $15/hour there. Whereas, in Illinois, union
rates set the rates that people expect to pay for high-skilled carpentry
work and he easily gets $25 to $35/hour.
But I guess, in principled opposition to unionization, you'd take the $12 to
$15.
Ron Fowler
around collecting welfare. Is that any worse than the people who have a
job and do the bare minimum of work (i.e, only when the boss is around)?
Uni
In China, the going rate is probably $3.00/hour. If Workers Unions want
to equalize everything, let's not skimp!!!
Uni
Jan
The only union I have ever thought was needed was for restaurant workers.
Waittresses and waiters have got the shittiest jobs in the world, and the
restaurants pay them $2.13 an hour. That would be fine if all they did was
wait on customers. But most of them are required to mop floors, vaccum, and
clean for an hour or more after the restaurant closes. And what's worse is
that with tips being based on price, a waiter in an expensive place that
usually does less than the poor girl in a Waffle House makes five times the
money and does much less. But the restaurant should be made to pay everyone
a minimum wage (and more than $5 an hour, too!) instead of expecting the
consumer to shell out half again as much for a tip as we already do for the
food.
I'm a big tipper simply because I have also been a waittress, and I know
what their life is like. But it shouldn't be that way. A union would get
that straightened out in a hurry.
In Canada the restaurants pay the help and they only tip when the service is
excellent.
Down here in SC we have a joke... What is the difference between a canoe and
a Canuck? The canoe tips more.... But that's what they are used to. They
may not understand the waiters are not paid even the slightest bit of a fair
wage.
Jan
Jan
Tennessee, too...and that's because they are forced to pay so much more.
Now that the Mexicans are taking over so many construction jobs, I'm
surprised the construction companies haven't tossed the union employees out
on their butts anyway. With so many of them willing to work for peanuts, a
worker is lucky to get $15 an hour anymore. They're doing all that work in
South Carolina now.
Jan
Tin@
>
> - Show quoted text -
I know the last time our grocery stores went on strike, the employees
were out for 6 months and got nothing better than if they accepted
what they were offered on day 1, wanna tell me how good that worked
out for the employees?
Tin@
At least they aren't milking the system. They're just milking a boss
who must not have enough to keep them busy or expects nothing of
them. It would never work where I work.
Tin@
> "WilliamWMeyer" <williamuume...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Also, the unions have bankrupted the car companies with their
excessive demands. Yeah, yeah, I know the companies made bad choices
too, but the unions sure didn't help
Jan
Wow...I've never heard of grocery stores being in a union!
In the south, lots of our grocery stores employ the mentally handicapped,
and I think the government pays them something to do it. They pay the
checkout people about $9 an hour with a few bare benefits...maybe discounted
health insurance that they have to pay most of the premiums...a few sick
days. I'm in a resort area so most of our stores are open 24 hours. The
third shift makes a dollar or two more an hour.
I've heard that managers in the meat department make good money. Not sure
what "good" means, but it's a sought-after job. Most regular grocery store
jobs are held by women and wives as a second source of income. I don't
think anybody could live on what they pay, though.
What kind of money do they make in a union situation?
jan
Tin@
> "Tin@" <tinas49...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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> On Jul 21, 7:30 am, "WilliamWMeyer" <williamuume...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I know the last time our grocery stores went on strike, the employees
> >were out for 6 months and got nothing better than if they accepted
> >what they were offered on day 1, wanna tell me how good that worked
> >out for the employees?
>
> Wow...I've never heard of grocery stores being in a union!
They are in Calif.
>
> In the south, lots of our grocery stores employ the mentally handicapped,
> and I think the government pays them something to do it. They pay the
> checkout people about $9 an hour with a few bare benefits...
I had a friend who 10 years ago worked for a grocery store and he made
$17, as a checker/produce guy. And that was 10 years ago.
>maybe discounted
> health insurance that they have to pay most of the premiums...a few sick
> days. I'm in a resort area so most of our stores are open 24 hours. The
> third shift makes a dollar or two more an hour.
>
> I've heard that managers in the meat department make good money. Not sure
> what "good" means, but it's a sought-after job. Most regular grocery store
> jobs are held by women and wives as a second source of income. I don't
> think anybody could live on what they pay, though.
>
> What kind of money do they make in a union situation?
>
> jan
I dont know the current pay.
WilliamWMeyer
> > Okay, put it another way. A friend of mine (who is not even in the
> > union)
> > does carpentry in Illinois and Tennessee. Tennessee is a right-to-work
> > state
> > and he can make about $12 to $15/hour there. Whereas, in Illinois, union
> > rates set the rates that people expect to pay for high-skilled carpentry
> > work and he easily gets $25 to $35/hour.
> >
> > But I guess, in principled opposition to unionization, you'd take the
> > $12 to
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I know the last time our grocery stores went on strike, the employees
> were out for 6 months and got nothing better than if they accepted
> what they were offered on day 1, wanna tell me how good that worked
> out for the employees?
These things are a moving target. In the 60s a million people gathering in
Washington resulted in political change, but after awhile the government
wised up and said, "hey we can just ignore these big demonstrations."
Yes, union busting is now a growth industry in the world of consulting. Same
thing happened at Firestone and Caterpillar.
Welcome to 1892.
Evil Rev Returns
you, anyway..... :)
ER
Evil Rev Returns
idiot
Not necessarily: you're just blinded by ideaology :)
ER