will pepsi take back Michael
markjensen
has a corperate sponsor
as big a Pepsi.
do you think it will happen, I personally don't,
but anyway
then new album, is coming and its gonna be big, anyway, can;t wait
MST3KPIMP
> that will, really is the true test if Mj has been accepted again when he
>has a corperate sponsor
>as big a Pepsi.
>
>do you think it will happen, I personally don't,
>
Whatta ya mean? There are plenty of potential thangs MJ could successfully
endorse. Revlon makeup, Lawfirms, Nanny services, and Swanson T.V. dinners.
John Smith
water company. They are pretty popular these days.
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> that will, really is the true test if Mj has been accepted again when he
> has a corperate sponsor
> as big a Pepsi.
No, the question is, Will Michael take Pepsi back?
I'm sure he'll have corporate sponsorship, but does he really want to be the
spokesperson for a product?
Maybe Kirby.
Nat
MST3KPIMP
>
>I'm sure he'll have corporate sponsorship, but does he really want to be the
>spokesperson for a product?>
I dont think MJ was a good investment for companies even b4 the molestation
scandal. Sure in the early 80's his aasociation with pepsi was fun did them
good but the silly "Im bad and Pepsi good" commercials from the BAD era were
embarrising and might actually sway people away from pepsi and over to coke
just so they wouldnt feel lame. The L.A. gear shoes were some kind of a bad
joke. Im not sure if the ads he does overseas influences anyone but currently
in the U.S. his name is not very bankable.
Nat
>> Whatta ya mean? There are plenty of potential thangs MJ could successfully
>> endorse. Revlon makeup, Lawfirms, Nanny services, and Swanson T.V. dinners.
>
> You have got to be fricken kidding me.
pah, meet pimp.
Nat
alan jones
Swanson T.V. dinners??-))
IConnec808
From: pah p...@bah.com
Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2001 8:20 AM
Message-id: <e69litojg089l64ud...@4ax.com>
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:30:30 +1200, "markjensen"
<mark...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> that will, really is the true test if Mj has been accepted again when he
>has a corperate sponsor
>as big a Pepsi.
God I hope not. True test? True test of what? He doesn't need to be
'accepted' by fricken Pepsi, of all people.
>
>do you think it will happen, I personally don't,
No more cheezy commercials. No more changing of lyric to sing about
caffeinated, sugar laden crap. No more embarrassing commercials. No
more E-bloody-sonic. No more compromising of integrity and artistry
for a fat cheque. What a bloody joke. God how I cringe.
Just the fricken music. Actually, I want a concert sponsored by
untrademarked clean drinking water, uncontaminated food and healthy
minds. That would be a kick to see.
>
>but anyway
>
>then new album, is coming and its gonna be big, anyway, can;t wait
Me too. So why the need for fricken Pepsi?
>
At this stage of his career Michael does not need Corporate Sponsors, unlike
Brittney and Nsync who need all the help they can get. Anyone else agree?
FGM
kemazz
do it. Pepsi tastes like a flat Coca Cola anyway.
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I think that's a fallacy. I don't think that either the sponsor ship or the
advertisements relate in anyway to the music. If he sings and dances a
little in the commercial, that still doesn't really affect the album as far
as anyone should be concerned.
On the other hand, a celebrity's endorsement is a fallacy for a product,
(see Michael Jordan's Ball Park Hot Dogs) and shouldn't be regarded as truth
or sincerity, that is unless that it's Wayne Gretzke endorsing Tylenol,
because he has experience in the field of pain, right? I don't know if Mike
was into Pepsi when he was younger, but now that would be fallacious for him
to endorse. But Wayne endorsing Kellogg's Frosted Flakes is wrong, that is
unless he is a Martyr for doc Kellogg ;)
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line, and all the dancers were too in synch to be taken seriously. It was
like the droid attack on planet Naboo... or the HIStory trailer where all
the soldiers did their little ceremonial rifle/bayonet manoeuvre digitally.
Well, they did out of synch a couple chaps out of each platoon to make them
seem human (could have been done a little better even though CGI was really
virgin back then Mike). It was a little too evident from that far out
zoomed.
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of course. :-)
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>Her commercial wasn't that bad, except that damn "bah ba bah-ba bah" chorus
>line, and all the dancers were too in synch to be taken seriously.>
As opposed to what other Britney Spears Video? Theyre all stupid. "follow the
bouncing mammories"
MST3KPIMP
fact turned alot of people off as MJ was perceived as not only embarrisingly
androgenous but also a cheezy "company boy". It was a hard enough sell trying
to convince the public he was "Bad" but to then apply that to a Soda campaign
was downright obsurd.
Nat
> It was
> like the droid attack on planet Naboo
Like all the teen videos out there now too. It's frightening. I think the
same director and choreographer take all these teen groups and make the same
video with each different group. Same line-dance moves, same close-up look
at the camera from one of the girls.....it's pathetic. That's the only
thing I don't care for in nsync's videos; they have some of that too, but at
least they have cool stuff, like shrinking in the department store,
mini-stories, changing clothes, transportation, etc.
Nat
Nat
> Dude, that BSpears commercial sucked. But we all have our likes and dislikes
> of course. :-)
I'm not crazy about the stereotypes of the people watching the video; the
men & dog who can't look away, the woman who wants to be like her. Yuck.
Nat
Nat
I don't remember it turning anybody off. Why?
Nat
MST3KPIMP
>
"I'm Bad I'm Bad... & Pepsi's Good"
Need I say more?
Nat
> "I'm Bad I'm Bad... & Pepsi's Good"
> Need I say more?
Yes! You've said that already. Why is that a turn-off? I remember the
only thing that people buzzed about back then is the Bad video. Mom's were
gasping at the crotch-grab. Not the Pepsi commercials.
Nat
MST3KPIMP
>thing I don't care for in nsync's videos; they have some of that too, but at
>least they have cool stuff, like shrinking in the department store,
>mini-stories, changing clothes, transportation, etc.>>
Yeah so orgional.. Did'nt you see that commercial years back where they played
Van Halen's "You really Got Me" where G.I. Joe Picked up Barbie and they drove
away? Thats what that video ripped off. N'SYNC SUCKS DONKEY BALLS... wanna
know why? Not because they cant sing or dance because they can technically.
But rather the way they sing and dance. Very deliberate and contrived. The
cut & paste approach that is prevalent in there song, dance and dress is just
embarrising even by New Kids on the Block standards. Its like a grandmothers
quilt of pop culture "or should I say Frankenstien". Just bits and peices
stitched together strategically so as to pass as clever but is instead hollow
and uninspiring. Theyre new song POP attempts to adress theyre so called
"POP" label but this too is routine and simply recycles countless cliches.
They dont even deserve the title of pop... NSYNC does'nt create pop culture
they IMITATE it.
Nat
> Yeah so orgional.. Did'nt you see that commercial years back where they played
> Van Halen's "You really Got Me" where G.I. Joe Picked up Barbie and they
> drove
> away? Thats what that video ripped off
....<snipped the icky part>...
Not because they cant sing or dance because they can technically.
> But rather the way they sing and dance. Very deliberate and contrived.
I've got to agree with you here. I does look to deliberate and
Frankensteinish. I've always hated the look of line dancing. I can't stand
when everyone's doing the same dance. It's annoying. The only time it's
not bothered me is when there is a focal point, like in the old shows where
there's one female singer and a bunch of back-up dancers, or in Dangerous,
where Michael is the focal point and he has a bunch of back-up dancers.
Probably because the focal point keeps me from watching the others too much.
I loved that GI Joe/Barbie commercial. That was cool. But nsync's Barbie
commercial reminded me more of Small Soldiers.
Nat
MST3KPIMP
"I'm Bad I'm Bad... & Pepsi's Good"
>> Need I say more?
>
>Yes! You've said that already. Why is that a turn-off? I remember the
>only thing that people buzzed about back then is the Bad video. Mom's were
>gasping at the crotch-grab. Not the Pepsi commercials.>>
Kitten... WHO CARES what moms think about. Im talking about the kids and music
fans and anyone in general with any ounce of what you would call "taste" who
were embarrassed to watch a guy proclaim to be "Bad" and then talk about how
tasty soda is. Especially since the actual video for Bad was of a serious tone
"although the crotch grabbing and ever increasing androgeny made it pretty
difficult to take seriously". The surrendering of the message behind Bad and
giving it over to a carbonated, sugar-packed, caffeine-laced beverage was not
just tacky but it presented MJ as a corporate pawn who was all too willing to
allow his music and message be manipulated for the right price. Add to this
that it was widely reported that MJ doesnt even drink Pepsi and you see why it
was not a move that gave MJ any "street cred" or all around image boost he may
have hoped to gain.
alan jones
pah wrote:
> Why not? I'm sure Mike has PLENTY of those! :)
If Michael's taken all of 6 years in his quest for perfection, why would
he be content
with a 3 minute boil in a bag / microwave, special?-)
Nat
> Kitten... WHO CARES what moms think about. Im talking about the kids and
> music
> fans and anyone in general with any ounce of what you would call "taste" who
> were embarrassed to watch a guy proclaim to be "Bad" and then talk about how
> tasty soda is. Especially since the actual video for Bad was of a serious
> tone
> "although the crotch grabbing and ever increasing androgeny made it pretty
> difficult to take seriously". The surrendering of the message behind Bad and
> giving it over to a carbonated, sugar-packed, caffeine-laced beverage was not
> just tacky but it presented MJ as a corporate pawn who was all too willing to
> allow his music and message be manipulated for the right price. Add to this
> that it was widely reported that MJ doesnt even drink Pepsi and you see why it
> was not a move that gave MJ any "street cred" or all around image boost he may
> have hoped to gain.
You're really taking this a little too hard.
By the way, why would you think moms aren't part of the music fan public?
I'm a mom and I certainly do count when it comes to buying music. Not only
for myself, but for what my kids will buy when they are old enough to buy
their own music. I think we have a lot more influence than you think.
Nat
JAWs
they'd look like MAJOR a bunch of major jackass' for splitting with him
and losing faith in the first place......if they do make an offer, Mike
should just tell em where to go and sign with Coke or Dr Pepper or some
other rival cola company!
MST3KPIMP
>You're really taking this a little too hard.>
Well I'm young so I guess thats my luxery.
>By the way, why would you think moms aren't part of the music fan public?
I hear what your sayin but lets face it. Historically it's been the young "or
young at heart" that have broken the pre-determined rules set by theyre elders
in all facets of our culture. So worrying about what Mom thinks of
crotch-grabbing is sort of a non-issue when your trying to push the boundries
of music or anything. Of course crotch-grabbing is pretty tame compared to the
antics seen in a Punk Rock or Yani concert. The kids expect theyre parents not
to "get it". ya dig?
John Smith
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times. I always thought he said "I'm Bad I'm Bad, Pepsi's cool."
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>when everyone's doing the same dance. It's annoying. The only time it's
>not bothered me is when there is a focal point, like in the old shows where
>there's one female singer and a bunch of back-up dancers, or in Dangerous,
>where Michael is the focal point and he has a bunch of back-up dancers.
>Probably because the focal point keeps me from watching the others too
much."
ding ding ding. That's exactly how I feel, and it's not like the competition
have to try that hard to change their ways.
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and then I'd throw them down and rub it in and make them feel bad with a big
messy scene over it. They would lose sales to Coke over night.
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> caffeinated, sugar laden crap. No more embarrassing commercials. No
> more E-bloody-sonic. No more compromising of integrity and artistry
> for a fat cheque. What a bloody joke. God how I cringe.
>
> Just the fricken music. Actually, I want a concert sponsored by
> untrademarked clean drinking water, uncontaminated food and healthy
> minds. That would be a kick to see.
>
<APPLAUDS>
My sentiments, exactly.
Red Meat Man
> Dude, that BSpears commercial sucked. But we all have our likes and dislikes
> of course. :-)
>
MST3KPIMP
> I always thought he said "I'm Bad I'm Bad, Pepsi's cool."
> That is indeed what he said.>
OH SNAP! He said Pepsi was "Cool" and not "Good"? Holy Zamoli.. That throws
everything I said before out the window. Honestly, thats makes it even worse
as theyre could be nothin so jaw-droppingly un-cool than singing about how
you'll be hip if you drink this crap. Our culture pretty much knows that Pepsi
is a lame version of Coke & the only way you can even drink it is if you put
lots of ice in it to water it down. The shit is so syrupy I could pour it on
my friggin flap-jacks!
Red Meat Man
Reminds me of a billboard I used to laugh at every morning, years ago,
when I was commuting to a job south of Seattle. In big, grungy
letters it said "Don't Wade in the Mainstream." It was an ad for
Converse sneakers--to be purchased at Mervyn's. Irony. Gotta love
it...
MST3KPIMP
>How does that make him any more androgenous?
>
Read young'n! I said...
>video for Bad was of a serious
>tone
>> "although the crotch grabbing and ever increasing androgeny made it pretty
>> difficult to take seriously".
It sez dat because at the the time of Bad's release people were confused by
MJ's new Janet-like look, which was more androgenous than his previous look,
which made people compare the two "which MJ joked about at an award ceremony".
Of course The look he was sporting back in Bad looks almost rugged compared to
the JC Penny Store-manequin look he's has presently. But I was just sayin the
combination of the crotch-grabbing and the new look threw people off and not
that the grabbing influenced the look. Although I cant confirm this...
MST3KPIMP
>I want a concert sponsored by
>> untrademarked clean drinking water, uncontaminated food and healthy
>> minds. That would be a kick to see.>>
And Swanson T.V. Dinners...
Red Meat Man
> kemazz wrote on 6/17/01 1:38 AM:
>
> > Dude, that BSpears commercial sucked. But we all have our likes and dislikes
> > of course. :-)
>
> I'm not crazy about the stereotypes of the people watching the video; the
> men & dog who can't look away, the woman who wants to be like her. Yuck.
>
head with "How Hot Britney Spears Is!" doesn't make me find her
desireable at all, much less make me want to run out and buy some crap
sugarwater.
Sure, she's a cute girl, but because she's neither a good singer or
dancer she's being sold on sex alone. Since she's not much older than
my daughter, I find that particularly disturbing. I want to make her
go put some clothes on and read a book. <rueful laugh>
My girlfriend (who is 34) and I saw the commercial the first time it
aired, and she found the idea that she was supposed to see Britney as
a member of The Sisterhood offensive. "Gawd," she remarked, "Could
Pepsi do a better job of alienating the women-over-25 demographic?"
MST3KPIMP
>head with "How Hot Britney Spears Is!" doesn't make me find her
>desireable at all, much less make me want to run out and buy some crap
>sugarwater.>
DAT CHICKS GOT BIG BOOBS!!!
Nat
> Mike
> should just tell em where to go and sign with Coke or Dr Pepper or some
> other rival cola company!
Dr. Pepper would be cool if it weren't part of Pepsi. It's my drink of
choice. Come to think of it, I'm ready for some now.....
Nat
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SHOVE it down the consumer markets' throats. "You ain't forgetin' me anytime
soon y'all."
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that whole scare about it being caffeine that does it, but apparently it's
not caffeine, it's just Coke.
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terrible for support and all, but they were just so darn cool.
There's this nasty religious billboard between my city and Vancouver on the
highway, and it's right at this danger area that people get in accidents
24/7. White background with plain black lettering "Prepare to meet God."
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somewhere. It's soo catchy, I was singing it for days.
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> I can barely decipher what Michael says until I hear his songs a million
> times. I always thought he said "I'm Bad I'm Bad, Pepsi's cool."
Didn't he?
Nat
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> Sure, she's a cute girl, but because she's neither a good singer or
> dancer she's being sold on sex alone. Since she's not much older than
> my daughter, I find that particularly disturbing. I want to make her
> go put some clothes on and read a book. <rueful laugh>
I can imagine. (I'm being serious)
>
> My girlfriend (who is 34) and I saw the commercial the first time it
> aired, and she found the idea that she was supposed to see Britney as
> a member of The Sisterhood offensive. "Gawd," she remarked, "Could
> Pepsi do a better job of alienating the women-over-25 demographic?"
Yup. Of course I will still buy my Diet Dr. Pepper when it's on sale for
less than $5.50 a case.
Does Britney really make people buy Pepsi products for $7.00 a case? Does
Michael or anybody else, for that matter? TV ads always seemed like a big
waste of money to me. I buy what tastes/works good at a decent price.
Nat
Nat
> There's this nasty religious billboard between my city and Vancouver on the
> highway, and it's right at this danger area that people get in accidents
> 24/7. White background with plain black lettering "Prepare to meet God."
That is awful!!!
Nat
Nat
> Do you remember the old doc pepper commercial themesong? I had it on .wav
> somewhere. It's soo catchy, I was singing it for days.
You mean, "He's a Pepper......wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too?"
Nat
Nat
> lol! don't worry. we'll soon be disagreeing about something. :-)
Hey, you got cable!!!
Nat
Nat
> I found out that Tums and Coke rob the body of calcium. There was recently
> that whole scare about it being caffeine that does it, but apparently it's
> not caffeine, it's just Coke.
Got milk?
...and that didn't even cost me anything this time.
Nat
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real McCoy.
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bet.
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> Because you have your own.... and it's not pasturized when you have it I'll
> bet.
Eeewww, nor is it homogenized. I don't drink it. I meant I didn't have to
pay for the advertisement though. They take tons of money out of our checks
for milk moustache commercials and those ones you see on tv. We don't even
have a choice.
Nat
Nat
> I do?
Your messages are coming through with the organization Road Runner up in the
header. Isn't that cable?
Nat
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item like a cola or cigars, it's something people rely on and go for no
matter what and even if people don't like it raw they need it for cooking.
Beef, and eggs are pretty much the same category as well.
"Beef; its what's for dinner." no kidding, what else was I going to settle
for?
"Got milk?" yes, 6 liters in the fridge. I hope we can make it to tomorrow
without it running out by then.
Well, I can't remember the egg slogan, but what else was I settling for for
breakfast ;)
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They were gone...ever?!?! They had Pepsi at the HIStory tour. The banners had
Michael & the Pepsi logos on them...When did pepsi go away???
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nah hun it ain't your "luxery."
Just cuz you're young doesn't mean you need to be ignorant about things & use
your age as a defense for that ignorance =)
"...whatever we say or whatever we do, for now let's make a vow to just, Keep
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>everything I said before out the window. Honestly, thats makes it even worse
>as theyre could be nothin so jaw-droppingly un-cool than singing about how
>you'll be hip if you drink this crap.
LMAO
I know right I was waiting for someone to correct the lyric LOL
But if ya think about it...the "Kewl" or "Cool" adjective could be in reference
to "cool & refreshing?" ya know =)
:::Sorry playing the devil's advocate:::
Rachael Hughes - Michael Jackson is SEXY!!
place, " King convinced Pepsi to sponsor the tour for $5 million.
Michael refused. A strict vegetarian and health-food fanatic, he only drank
water and an occasional glass of juice. 'i dont drink that crap', he said
'and im sure not going to tell other people to drink it - especially not
kids'. once again Katherine stepped in, after weeks of foot draggin Michael
again succumbed to pressure from his mother. he signed but with the
following stipulations:although it was not included in the contract itself,
Michael would make it clear that he did not want his face to be shown on
screen for more than 4 seconds, Michael still upset over the prospect of
being identified with a sugar loaded soft drink, wanted king to dump pepsi
conpletely and sign with quaker oats." i also read somewhere that Michael
actually refused to hold the can of pepsi and told the pepsi people to just
shoot pictures of his hands, feet etc etc and choose the music (bille jean)
and wrote new lyrics to it.
so Michael wouldnt go back to pepsi because he hated the deal in the first
place.
luv 2 all
Rach xxx
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children are a reminder of the preciousness of all life especially young
lives untouched by hatred, prejudice and greed, now in the world is so
confused and its problems so complicated we need our children more than
ever, the mission of heal the world, my mission is healing, pure and simple.
to heal the world we must start by healing our children, being with them
connects us to the deep wisdom of life, the simple goodness shines straight
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> >
> > that will, really is the true test if Mj has been accepted again when
he
> >has a corperate sponsor
> >as big a Pepsi.
> >
> >do you think it will happen, I personally don't,
> >
>
> Whatta ya mean? There are plenty of potential thangs MJ could successfully
> endorse. Revlon makeup, Lawfirms, Nanny services, and Swanson T.V.
dinners.
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Crystalann Jackson
In this day, Mom's could only wish their biggest problem is crotch
grabbing.
Crystalann Jackson
Crystalann Jackson
Crystalann Jackson
MST3KPIMP
>Ok, here's my opinion, take it or leave it...
>In this day, Mom's could only wish their biggest problem is crotch
>grabbing. >>
Exactley... ever been to a Zanfir concert? Scary stuff.
MST3KPIMP
>
>Just cuz you're young doesn't mean you need to be ignorant about things & use
>your age as a defense for that ignorance >>
Sweetie Pie...I didnt say that I was being ignorant because I was young. On
the contrary, I was trying to find a polite way to say that because your older
you probably have lost much of the fire and concern for issues such as selling
out or lame commercial endorsements as they seem like afterthoughts and you
dont want to "rock the boat" . Historically it has been the young who will be
more critical and not as willing to look the other way when they see monumental
lameness. Of course it was the significantly older Neil Young who did the
award winning song and video "This Notes For You" which satarized and
underscored the MJ/Pespi collaberation for what it was. So Its not so much a
young/old issue as it is a matter of a willingness to see clearly and be
critical.
MST3KPIMP
>place, " King convinced Pepsi to sponsor the tour for $5 million.
>Michael refused. A strict vegetarian and health-food fanatic, he only drank
>water and an occasional glass of juice. 'i dont drink that crap', he said
>'and im sure not going to tell other people to drink it - especially not
>kids'.
>screen for more than 4 seconds, Michael still upset over the prospect of
>being identified with a sugar loaded soft drink, wanted king to dump pepsi
>conpletely and sign with quaker oats." i also read somewhere that Michael
>actually refused to hold the can of pepsi and told the pepsi people to just
>shoot pictures of his hands, feet etc etc and choose the music (bille jean)
>and wrote new lyrics to it.
>
>so Michael wouldnt go back to pepsi because he hated the deal in the first
>place.
>
Ok but he did go back for Bad and his face was shown for a good amount of time.
So whats the deal? After reading this I am even l more disturbed by the Bad
Pepsi commercials since MJ touted it as "Cool" and did those disturbing
drinking motions like he was downing a six-pack of that crap. Looks like MJ
sold out big time. Almost makes the whole hair catching on fire incident a sort
of poetic Justice. THIS NOTES FOR YOU!
Nat
Nat
> Sweetie Pie...I didnt say that I was being ignorant because I was young. On
> the contrary, I was trying to find a polite way to say that because your older
> you probably have lost much of the fire and concern for issues such as selling
> out or lame commercial endorsements as they seem like afterthoughts and you
> dont want to "rock the boat"
Big smile......Spoken like a true young person.
Nat
Nat
> Sweetie Pie....
This still gives me a smile.
> Historically it has been the young who will be
> more critical and not as willing to look the other way when they see
> monumental
> lameness. Of course it was the significantly older Neil Young who did the
> award winning song and video "This Notes For You" which satarized and
> underscored the MJ/Pespi collaberation for what it was. So Its not so much a
> young/old issue as it is a matter of a willingness to see clearly and be
> critical.
As you grow up, you will gain more perspective, and see this for what it is:
really not too important in the scheme of things. I really take lameness
for granted now, and sure, I look the other way. To me it seems pretty lame
to: a) spend millions and millions on a Superbowl commercial that really
doesn't make your product look any better than anyone else's, or b) be a
consumer who goes out and spends more money on Nyquil because the guy looks
like he'll give a better presentation in the morning than the girl who
didn't take Nyquil when there are generic brands on the market for half as
much with the same ingredients.
Seeing clearly and finding other things in life as more important are two
different things. I do know MY children are too smart to fall for silly
advertising, and they are what my major concern in life is now. Not what
people do in advertising. Actually, even when I was 18 I had better things
to do with my time.
If you want to be critical, be critical of what the insurance and drug
companies do to the people and how the government could care less because
they get pocket money from them.
Nat
MST3KPIMP
>
>As you grow up, you will gain more perspective, and see this for what it is:
>really not too important in the scheme of things. I really take lameness
>for granted now, and sure, I look the other way. >
Pumpkin... I'm not sure how old you think I am but I'm in my late 20's so Its
not likely that my look on things will change too drastically. As for the
issue not being too important it basicaly boils down to asthetics and what your
willing to tolerate. I know I'm not the only who thinks the Pepsi campaign was
pointless explotation and an embarrasment. You probably thought it was cute
and something neat for your kids. Different Strokes...
Nat
> Pumpkin... I'm not sure how old you think I am but I'm in my late 20's so Its
> not likely that my look on things will change too drastically.
Ok, so it's not your age; maybe it's *whispers* something else. That should
be obvious because I know people younger than you who have perspective.
> As for the
> issue not being too important it basicaly boils down to asthetics and what
> your
> willing to tolerate. I know I'm not the only who thinks the Pepsi campaign
> was
> pointless explotation and an embarrasment. You probably thought it was cute
> and something neat for your kids. Different Strokes...
Good grief, kids were the furthest thing from my mind then. My point is,
who cares? Some commercials ARE cute and some ARE funny. It doesn't mean
someone's going to buy that brand because of the commercial.
Go get a snack when commercials come on. There are more important things to
worry about. Worry about hate groups, germicide, food preparation
cleanliness, rats in fast foods, you know, things that actually might affect
you.
Nat
MST3KPIMP
>Go get a snack when commercials come on. There are more important things to
>worry about. Worry about hate groups, germicide, food preparation
>cleanliness, rats in fast foods, you know, things that actually might affect
>you.>
Of course that makes sense technically but you could say dont comment on
entertainment a'tall because its not a matter of life & death. By that
rationale NOTHING in this group is worth commenting on because there are bigger
issues. Why are you spending time reading this newsgroup and anticipating a
new album? You could be worrying about pressing issues like the Ozone layer
and Joan Rivers face.
Nat
> Of course that makes sense technically but you could say dont comment on
> entertainment a'tall because its not a matter of life & death. By that
> rationale NOTHING in this group is worth commenting on because there are
> bigger
> issues. Why are you spending time reading this newsgroup and anticipating a
> new album? You could be worrying about pressing issues like the Ozone layer
> and Joan Rivers face.
Because I am able to do a multitude of things very very quickly so I have
that luxury. You'd be amazed at the things I do in a day:
I milk the cows in the morning. I work for an auction house and do their
auction listings, real estate listings, appraisals, letters and receivables.
I try to run 50 online auctions for myself each week and I have to go to
estate sales, auctions and garage sales to get the stuff. I go to all the
school functions, take the kids to and from summer school, drama class and
swimming lessons, do all the shopping, cleaning, 1-3 loads of laundry a day,
the cooking, caring for and playing with the kids, milk at night if my
husband is still working in the tractor, help move heifers, feed youngstock
if my husband's busy, manage the business accounts, employees (not to
mention making them Kool-aid & sandwiches), and mow the lawn for an hour a
day.
I was just brought up to be busy. I work well under pressure. It only took
30 seconds to get this email out. I have OE run my newsgroup messages right
through as email so when I get business email, I just read and respond to
these too. It's nothing, really.
So, you see, I can worry about important things AND have a good time at the
same time. By the way, the "ozone" layer scare is probably a hoax to get
your mind of the corrupt government and what's with Joan Rivers' face?
Nat
MST3KPIMP
>I milk the cows in the morning. I work for an auction house and do their
>auction listings, real estate listings, appraisals, letters and receivables.
>I try to run 50 online auctions for myself each week and I have to go to
>estate sales, auctions and garage sales to get the stuff. I go to all the
>school functions, take the kids to and from summer school, drama class and
>swimming lessons, do all the shopping, cleaning, 1-3 loads of laundry a day,
>the cooking, caring for and playing with the kids, milk at night if my
>husband is still working in the tractor, help move heifers, feed youngstock
>if my husband's busy, manage the business accounts, employees (not to
>mention making them Kool-aid & sandwiches), and mow the lawn for an hour a
>day. >
Well theres your problem. You need to slow down a bit to see things in
perspective. Everything would seem benine if you raced past it at full speed.
Haste makes waste
Nat
> Well theres your problem. You need to slow down a bit to see things in
> perspective. Everything would seem benine if you raced past it at full
> speed.
> Haste makes waste
No way. The best times for thinking are mowing the lawn and milking cows.
They're pretty much brain-resting jobs. If you slow down, your brain
actually goes into semi-snooze. Did you know that? I'll bet you did.
Oh I forgot one thing....I run a web site for the auction house/real estate
co.
Nat
MST3KPIMP
>No way. The best times for thinking are mowing the lawn and milking cows.
>They're pretty much brain-resting jobs. If you slow down, your brain
>actually goes into semi-snooze. Did you know that? I'll bet you did.
>
>Oh I forgot one thing....I run a web site for the auction house/real estate
>co.>
Well some people I know keep busy 24-7 so they dont have to think about whats
really bothering them.
John Smith
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John Smith
get by.
"MST3KPIMP" <mst3...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> like he'll give a better presentation in the morning than the girl who
Or they show ads for weird irrelevancies for something like coffee or office
stationary, yet they keep flashing 4 second clips of people frolicking and
playing volleyball on the beach. I love how they try to make people look
like they are having a good time, even though it has nothing to do with what
they are selling!
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John Smith
them over and over again... just kidding.
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John Smith
John Smith
Nooooo! I'd die if I had to go to school over the summer when I was in grade
school... but I wouldn't mind being put to slave labour earning some grunt
cash every day, then I would have had some really sweet toys.
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type.
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Absolutely. When I'm doing that at work, I think of many arguements and how
I could defend them. Some against boy bands, mj, some supporting mj, some
for asking my boss why I should get a raise, etc.
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John Smith
take their minds off of everything. I use work as an excuse to think and
plan while being paid.
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shamon thing right?
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> >That throws
> >everything I said before out the window. Honestly, thats makes it even
worse
> >as theyre could be nothin so jaw-droppingly un-cool than singing about
how
> >you'll be hip if you drink this crap.
>
> LMAO
> I know right I was waiting for someone to correct the lyric LOL
>
> But if ya think about it...the "Kewl" or "Cool" adjective could be in
reference
> to "cool & refreshing?" ya know =)
>
> :::Sorry playing the devil's advocate:::
> "...whatever we say or whatever we do, for now let's make a vow to just,
Keep
> It In The Closet..."
> lovetoall P2
John Smith
John Smith
At least he wasn't pushing distilled alcohol on kids.
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Nat
> Neil Young is a 2nd cousin of my dad.
Really? That's cool.
Nat
Nat
> Or they show ads for weird irrelevancies for something like coffee or office
> stationary, yet they keep flashing 4 second clips of people frolicking and
> playing volleyball on the beach. I love how they try to make people look
> like they are having a good time, even though it has nothing to do with what
> they are selling!
Or how the girl in the feminine product commercial ALWAYS wears white when
she know she shouldn't.
Nat
MST3KPIMP
>At least he wasn't pushing distilled alcohol on kids.>
Well sugar and alchohol are drugs.