Azja Pryor talks about Michael Jackson being FALSELY ACCUSED of child abuse and gives reasons why
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Getting to hot for you, is it, NEGRO? You pull your typical nigger whining
bullshit lies, get called out, don't like it, chimpout, fling turds and try
whining to an email addie that will simply ignore your pathetic piss weak
niggerwhine.
If you can't take the heat, black BOY, get your stinking greasy arse out of
the kitchen.
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Racist people don't deserve Internet access.
Mister Reggin Rellik
Getting to hot for you, is it, NEGRO? You pull your typical nigger whining
bullshit lies, get called out, don't like it, chimpout, fling turds and try
whining to an email addie that will simply ignore your pathetic piss weak
niggerwhine.
If you can't take the heat, black BOY, get your stinking greasy arse out of
the kitchen.
Racist niggers like ant toe kneegrow don't deserve Internet access.
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Sticks and stones, you piss weak nigger.
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More sticks and stones, you piss weak fucking turd. You coons aren't worth a
pinch of shit.
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Maybe not..
And not all of us have half a brain.
I should actually find it amusing, that you think that Jackson is
guilty of something so petty.
At least that's something Anthony and I agree with. The man being
Innocent that is.
First, those links, you say don't exist. That you'll just ignore
anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Jackson
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/13/jackson.trial/
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jackson.html
God, it seems weird seeing some of that old stuff.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0608051jackson1.html
and other accusers http://www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/021505mjgrandjury.html
Yeah, listing both sides.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/a/jackson.htm
Another crazy File on Pedophiles.
You know, I was reading very recently, in a very important medical
journal on, psychology of the effects of molestation on a child.
That,, that even if the child was never truly molested, the effects
could last an entire lifetime.
The effects of convincing a child that they were molested, are as
damaging as that of the child truly being molested… even if the child
was never molested.
It leaves a mark. They end up psychologically messed up the rest of
their lives.
Even in the case of Gavin Arvizo, he might actually believe things
have happened, which never truly took place. Just by giving up to the
Media gabble, he might actually believe that Jackson had touched him.
You pick on Jackson, who is now deceased for half a year.
Why not pick on things like the Indian legal loophole.
Or the fact, that many people get lesser sentences for some of the
oddest reasons.
I recently was looking at a news paper clipping, which listed a man
getting no less then (Had to look it up) 14 years in prison for
several counts of molestation, of two little girls.
A very similar case, involved more then four possible victims. He was
convicted for two of those victims. All of those victims were boys.
His lesser sentence was no more then three years. His max time total,
was around 44 years.
He already served closer to three years of his total sentence. So by
the time he even starts serving the official time, he’ll almost have
his time served.
At best guess, considering the lesser time, he’ll probably be out way
before he even begins to serve the larger time. Probably sometime
before 2015.
You wanna make a fus? There’s people in, serving time for falling in
love.
Just because the other person happens to be under 18. After almost
three years of the two seeing each other, it’s obvious, they have true
feelings.
What’s up with this picture?
Four possible victs, maybe more, and get lesser time? Why, because
they happened to be boys? The psychological damage is still done. Then
what if those boys molest others?
So what does that mean? if I’d go and molest a boy, I’ll get a much
lighter sentence?
But don’t dare touch a girl, or we’ll just about kill you!
Of course, the journal mentions children being turned into pedophiles
too. It’s a psychological fact! Especially when a child is still
young. They are still going through shaping and changing. They do not
yet contain the mental capacity to distinguish right from wrong, when
these things happen to them too often.
Another very true, and real loophole, is lost and missing children.
Since there’s no-one to answer or protect them, they are more lost
then children with parents.
The Organization of Missing and Exploited Children admits defeat.
Though they’re trying very hard to rescue these children, only maybe
one is actually saved every year. When the number happens to be in the
millions, the statistics are really scary.
This means for everyone actually caught, there’s more then ten who
aren’t.
There’s just no way of policing every single act of molestation.
Especially when accurate numbers are impossible to collect.
You still wanna lock people up who aren’t guilty for sure? When
they’re already having problems locking those up who are for sure
guilty?
Do you have any idea how much money the system already goes through,
just locking up people who really do belong there? Do you have any
idea how much money you have to pay out, just to keep them there?
I have a pretty good idea, of how much money is spent for all of this.
And thing is, there’s people in there, serving time for little more
then smoking a little pot.
There’s people in there, serving time for back support. And some of
those, die leaving the system still holding the bill. 8-10,000 for
back support don’t sound like much,, till you start tacking on the
cost of jailing them. 30-40,000$ a year.
A lot of them, don’t even owe that much.
Our new jail proposal I believe was somewhere between 400 and
600,000,000
600 Million dollars. And they don’t even believe they’ll be able to
get it built on-time for all of the inmates.
No one seems to want to try a simpler solution to this problem.
And there are simpler solutions. Reviewing the reasons why person’s
are in jail in the first place. Anyone in there for stupid things,
including having so many unpaid parking tickets, the system locked
them up for it… should be released from prison.
The system could probably better afford giving them barely what they
need to keep going on the outside, rather then having them inside.
Quite literary, it would be cheaper. One can survive on just 15,000 a
year. You can actually do it on less then that.
But people like you, still suggest it’s a good idea to lock someone
up, even if it’s unclear whether or not they’re actually guilty.
Just bankrupt America. It don’t matter, we could always kiss the UK’s
butts for enough to get out of it.
Lets just lock,, well, me up, while we’re at it. For my Yaoi
collection. Which last year, was illegal. Now this year, it was
overturned again. So my collection is now re-legal.
It was reviewed, and was called unconstitutional according to the
freedom of expression.
Something which can be created and drawn, from one’s imagination.
Since that there’s insufficient evidence that it promotes pedophiles
to abuse.
In other words, as long as it’s anime or anime like, there’s no way of
regulating it.
There is no possible way to regulate one’s imagination.
The overturning of this policy, was the main reason my one web host
dropped me as a member. There’s hundreds of authors of Yaoi Anime.
There’s as many titles of Yaoi and Shota Magana, as there are authors.
There’s thousands of prints of each title, floating around, both
legal, and not so legal digital copies. It’s impossible to know just
how many
digital copies are floating around the Internet.
You also have fan based drawings, taken from some of those comics as
well.
You may find this hard to believe, but a lot of the authors who draw
Yaoi, are women.
Yaoi was originally targeted for a female audience. It later became a
legal alternative for the Boy Lover. (Pedophile. Which originally,
referred to as anyone who specifically targeted boys.) Legal and safe,
because no real children are involved in the production of the
material. In Japan, some of the real thing, holds the same stigma as
the abuser.
The Japanese are once again way ahead of us. They figure, if you can
imagine and draw it, might as well be allowed to poses it.
This was part of the overturning of the 2008 law. Congress disapproved
of making such material illegal, because it exploits no real child.
Further, there’s also no evidence that any real child was harmed to
process such material.
Under the final law? It is still illegal to pass off anime as being
real children.
It holds some of the same stigma as the real thing.
My opinion? Anything and everything which is hurting anyone, at any
age, should be illegal. Especially if children are involved.
This will probably go up on my google group, Raving Raichu’s Journal.
The measure the UK is taking against extreme pornography, I also agree
with 110%.
I don’t wanna watch some guy, or some chick having sex with farm
animals.
And I really don’t care to see, children coaxed into doing it either.
Allowing your mate, to abuse your body to the point of all out
damage?
(W) Wrong!
(S) Sick!
(G) Gross!
America, my country, needs to follow the UK on this one. But probably,
besides the child aspect, they’ll end up calling it unconstitutional.
The animal aspect is flat out gross. But they’d probably lose that one
in Congress as well. It’ll probably be called unconstitutional, and a
direct violation to our freedom of expression.
And you call yourself an American? I bet a lot of this information,
you weren’t even aware of.
Nor my opinion, that I do not believe, for one second, child
pornography should ever be legal. No way, no how, should any child be
made to have pictures taken of them, while they’re being abused. Those
people don’t have any morals. Leave the child grow, leave them get old
enough to understand it. I like placing an age of 16 on it.
Once they’re sixteen, let certain things slide. And lets try not to
make South Carolina’s
mistake! A legal loophole, which the pedophile can use. All they have
to say, if the sex was consensual, that they thought they were
fourteen-years-old. Then another problem arises, which a jury must
decide whether it really was consensual.
Fourteen is still a little too young, but South Carolina’s Congress
passed it anyway.
Georgia, if I have the right state. All you have to do, after (I’m not
sure what age for sure)
is get married, to slip the legal system.
Yet… you still wanna complain and moan about Jackson’s guilt. While
all of this other shit is happening.
If I fear, a single piece of art was drawn from real life, I
separately open it in MS Paint,
wipe the actual image to blank white. (Which gets rid of any actual
data.) then press Ctrl + Save. Scheduling disc Defrag, does more then
people may think.
It’s only problem, is if an accidental deletion of a file takes place,
you’re pretty much fucked. For curiosity, I ran a file recovery
program the other day. It found a shit load of Pokemon image files,
which I had deleted. And many other files, all frame captures from
movies, to make backgrounds out of. That and, I like doing a photoshop
on some, adding a penis,, to say Roo, or another character, just to
make it look like something it wasn’t originally indented to look
like. Roo spitting a load of semen.
Closer to 98% of all images were overwritten to the point of
unretrievable.
One image in thousands, showed only the top half. Taken from a legal
copy of the fifth Pikachu installment. Fully Japanese, and region
coded (2)
People who don’t know computers very well, are under the impression,
that just pressing shift with delete, get rid of a file.
Under any normal deletion, no computer gets rid of any actual data.
This believe it or not, had nothing to do with evidence collecting. It
would take closer to twice as much time, wiping a files data, then
just marking the space allocate-able, (Expired Space.)
allocating the space, allowing it to be written to.
Believe it or not, it’s been this way, since the 1541 Floppy Drive.
The file’s actual data, must be overwritten before it is no longer
retrievable.
You can mash a hard drive with a hammer, throw it in a burning
building, and still retrieve the drives data.
For instance. The illegal transactions which were taken place since
the WTC buildings first had hard drives to record it, were almost
totally rescued. There was very little left of any of those computers.
But they were still able to rescue nearly everything off of those hard
drives. Basically, you really have to mean it, if you’re going to rid
yourself of a file.
You don’t just delete it, and expect it to be gone. Since that a
defrag relocates all the data,
then places it in an almost sequential order… anything therefore
deleted, before the defrag, is much harder to rescue.
My primary advice to others, is to never download it in the first
place.
Another reason I have such scheduled, is my system reboots much
faster.
I only have it scheduled for once a week. I don’t even remember when I
have it scheduled for. I just know it’s once a week. The primary
reason I don’t download it myself, is because I do not support the
pedophile. The other, is of course, the difficulty of getting rid of
such material.
Formats? Nearly every type of formatting a hard drive, doesn’t get rid
of any actual data.
A low level format usually renders most of the data overwritten. So
does, changing the entire systems format. I found a way which works,
but if your using Windows to do it, it’ll take closer to an hour to
achieve. Former company Maxtor, the Maxblast 3 program.
The can be used, to achieve changing the entire file system twice,
without it taking very long. It’s problem is, you need at least one
Maxtor drive to achieve it.
See My Google Group, for more information.
http://groups.google.com/group/ravingraichu/browse_thread/thread/f785db97d3b17730?hl=en
It don’t matter which way you look at it… unless you really really
mean it, the data never gets erased.
Alcohol 120% has a tool for getting rid of data. But I’ve never put it
to the test, when it comes to HD’s that is.
If you, or someone you know downloads any of that sick shit; I
suggest, you spread this information over to them. It could very well
mean the difference between jail or no jail-time. Only hd I would’ve
had,, (Read the file.) with any of that shit on it, lost, or
reformatted, and written over more times then I have fingers or toes.
I don’t currently own any of those drives either.
Now if they did come by, and confiscate anything, they’d find nothing,
of what they’re searching for. I’d sue them, and force them to buy me
a 500Gb drive. I’d make em’ get me a 1Tb, but there isn’t really any
reliable drives, which don’t crash after six months of use. I guess
Seagate shouldn’t have taken Maxtor over quite yet. They were the only
company which had any chance of a reliable 1Tb drive.
Currently, I’d love to have a 500GB drive. I’m getting tired of
compressing, and deleting files, just to make room for other files. My
320GB drive, rarely has close to 100Gb free space. I constantly try to
keep extra space, just in the case I want to do a shit load of frame
captures. I sometimes also like making uncompressed video files, just
for the frame captures. They stretch better then any Divx or Xvid
file. You don’t loose quality, as long as you’re viewing the file at
it’s original frame size. Files will still only stretch in a small
percentage, while keeping the same quality. Probably no better then
around 20% or so.
Is my point still the same? Of course it is.
Why are you wasting your time, on a deceased man, who may, or may not
be guilty of some minor at best, twiddling of a couple of boys
penises?
Especially when there’s people out there placing their penises, right
up children, some younger then eight… then, they’re getting away with
it on some stupid technicalities.
Some, ending up spending only 6 or so years in prison.
Or, this big scandal.
Source. http://www.ffrf.org/timely/pedo1992.php
(I could go on like this till I fill well over a 200 Page book.
Jackson’s little crime, if he was actually guilty, seems so
inefficient.)
The Scandal of Pedophilia in the Church
By Annie Laurie Gaylor © 1992
A version of this article appeared as a chapter in the anthology
The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You to Read, edited by Tim C. Leedom
(Kendall/Hunt Publishing Company 1993).
The general consensus in the United States is that if it is religious,
it must be good. Criticism of religion is discouraged and stifled. It
remains socially unacceptable to point out the main objections which
skeptics and freethinkers have to religion: that it is both untrue,
and harmful. Ironically, while criticism of religion rarely makes the
mainstream, the slandering and scapegoating of atheists is so
acceptable that polls have shown that most Americans would not
consider voting for an atheist for President. The public harbors
illusions straight out of the stuff that made William Jennings Bryan
such a successful religious demagogue. One of his typical statements
was, "Outside of the church are to be found the worthless; the
criminal, and the degenerate, those who are a burden to society rather
than an aid."
Christian religious indoctrination has taught believers that what
makes you a good person is what you believe, not what you do. "Get
right with God" and everything else falls into place, is the
fundamentalist view. In this black-and-white world, the good are the
Christians who go to heaven; the bad are the hell-bound unbelievers.
While the more liberal branches of Christianity usually reject this
simplistic bifurcation of the world and this narrow understanding of
morality, they too believe that being a Christian is what makes one
"good." Their benevolent view of Jesus and the parts of the bible they
deign to acknowledge as relevant to today's world, does not permit
exploration of the darker side of Christianity. History is replete
with the recorded abuses and savageries of organized religion when it
comes to power. Human sacrifices to appease the gods. The Crusades.
The Inquisition. The execution of millions of women under the
direction of the bible. Pogroms against Jews. The Holocaust.
Jonestown, Guyana.
Believers in our society are indoctrinated to ignore the bloody
history of religion, and to pay effusive lip service to belief in God,
Jesus, the bible, and God's holy representatives on earth. Ordained
ministers and priests are "men of God," "God's holy instruments," a
race apart, anointed. It is then no wonder that clergymen who wish to
misuse power and betray trust are in a unique position to do so.
Newspapers are full of reports of financial exploitation, sexual
transgressions during pastoral counseling, and what has surfaced since
the mid-1980's as one of the most persistent public relations problems
facing both Catholic and Protestant churches today: the criminal
sexual abuse of children and teenagers by ordained clergymen.
As British philosopher Bertrand Russell analyzed in 1916: ". . .
[Regarding] the convention that clergymen are more virtuous than other
men. Any average selection of mankind, set apart and told that it
excels the rest in virtue, must tend to sink below the
average" ("Religion and the Churches").
Philosopher/theologian Martin Buber, in Good and Evil, made this
insight:
"Since the primary motive of the evil is disguise, one of the places
evil people are most likely to be found is within the church. What
better way to conceal one's evil from oneself, as well as from others,
than to be a deacon or some other highly visible form of Christian
within our culture? . . . . I do not mean to imply that the evil are
anything other than a small minority among the religious or that the
religious motives of most people are in any way spurious. I mean only
that evil people tend to gravitate toward piety for the disguise and
concealment it can offer them."
Child molesters appear to gravitate toward careers which will shield
and camouflage them, while at the same time providing access to
victims. Robin Levett and Bob Crane write in It's O.K. To Say No!:
"Because the abuse of children is a sexual preference formed
relatively early in life, some offenders consciously or unconsciously
choose career paths that will bring them regularly in contact with
children. Others may volunteer to supervise children's sports or club
activities. Many are highly respected members of the community. Some
are in positions of authority over children--teachers, doctors, police
officers, clergymen, coaches."
Professionals agree that pedophiles, sexual abusers of children, often
seek out professions or activities which bring them into contact with
children. Largely unexplored is the role Christianity may play in
possibly molding criminal abusers. Researchers know that a typical
child molester is a "good Christian" and often a church-goer active in
church activities. Why should this be so? Havelock Ellis wrote, "In
all countries religion, or superstition, is closely related with
crime." It should not be surprising that crime is connected to the
religious mentality and its ideology: such beliefs as original sin,
the sacredness of gruesome bible teachings and inflexibility of moral
codes, the absolution of sin through confession, a lack of personal
responsibility for one's actions, and terrifying spectres of a jealous
god and evil devils.
Religious doctrine encourages power inequities toward women and
children, and such inequities invariably lead to abuse. Christian
doctrine emphasizes submission and teaches the exemplary Christian to
follow like sheep, and "become as little children" (Matthew 18:3). The
classic Christian concept that human nature is innately "depraved" and
sinful may also be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Does the Christian ministry attract sexual deviants, or mold them? It
may be an unanswerable riddle. When one looks at fallen televangelist
Jimmy Swaggart, one may surmise that the more he ranted against the
temptations of pornography and illicit sexual relations, the more he
was trying to overcome his own impulses, and fighting his own nature.
Or one may speculate that the deep sexual repressions of the
fundamentalist religion, coupled with the unhealthy adulation he
received as one of God's chosen, corrupted what was once an innocent
nature.
In either case, the mixture of ministerial power with religion's
social inequities and repressive doctrines is demonstrably explosive.
One study released by Rev. Ronald Barton and Rev. Karen Lebaczq
(March, 1990) for the Center for Ethics and Social Policy of the
Graduate Theological Union at Berkeley, found that a quarter of all
clergy have engaged in sexual misconduct.
Extent of the Problem
Studies about pedophiles (adults who prey sexually on children) have
not investigated the extent of this crime within the ministry, or
whether the ratio of pedophiles in the ministry is higher than that of
comparable high-risk professions. Experts agree that the molesting
minister is a subset of the dangerous class of "respected members of
the community" who betray their position of authority and trust by
sexually assaulting children. Many warn that molesters are often "good
Christians."
The social myth persists that a child molester is most apt to be of a
low-class breed lurking in dark hallways, interested in abduction of
children he does not know. In fact, most sexual abusers of children
are respectable, otherwise law-abiding people who cultivate friendly
relationships with their chosen prey, and may escape detection for
precisely those reasons. Research agrees that the typical child
molester is able to harm large numbers of children without being
caught, in part, because he has already established a trusting
relationship, playing on children's sense of loyalty, vulnerability,
shame, and naivete, and fortifying his power to silence them through
bribery, coercion and violent threats. In the case of a molesting man
of the cloth, add to these threats the supernatural ones of God's
wrath or hellfire.
The largest study of pedophiles was directed by researcher, physician
and psychiatrist Gene G. Abel, M.D., of Emory University School of
Medicine, for the Antisocial and Violent Behavior Branch of the
National Institute of Mental Health. The landmark eight-year study
revealed that, "Molesters often become youth ministers, day-care
workers, Boy Scout leaders, teachers, Big Brothers and
pediatricians" (Dr. Abel and Nora Harlow, "The Child Abuser," Redbook
Magazine, August 1987). They add, "He is often an active Christian who
is involved in his church."
Abel's study discovered that 403 pedophiles had molested more than
67,000 children! Pedophiles who targeted male victims averaged 282
victims, while pedophiles who targeted girls averaged 23 victims.
Other studies have uncovered more traditional findings of higher
incidences of abuse of girls.
Some figures are available about ministers who are child abusers. The
Church Mutual Insurance Company, of Merrill, Wisconsin, which insures
46,000 churches, has seen about 200 claims against ministers for
sexual abuse of children in the late eighties. The company estimated
that in 1990 there were as many as 2,000 cases of sexual abuse by
clergy in the courts.
Jeffrey Anderson, a Minnesota attorney who specializes in sexual abuse
civil suits, was aware of more than 300 civil claims against Catholic
priests in 43 states through 1991, and has handled 80 cases himself.
Catholic reporter Jason Berry has tracked at least 100 civil
settlements by the Catholic Church in the years 1984-1990, totaling
$100 million to $300 million. Of course, many such civil cases are
settled secretly.
Roman Catholic canon attorney Father Thomas Doyle has estimated that
about 3,000 Roman Catholic priests are pedophiliac abusers of children
(an average of 16 priestly sex abusers per diocese).
Baltimore psychotherapist and former priest A.W. Richard Sipe, author
of A Secret World: Sexuality and the Search for Celibacy, 1990, made a
comprehensive study of the sexual conduct of priests. As a result of
his study, Harper's Index 1990 published this statistic: "Estimated
chances that a Catholic priest in the United States is sexually
active: 1 in 2." Sipe studied 1,000 priests and 500 of their "lovers"
or victims. He offered this breakdown: 20% of priests are involved in
sexual relationships with women; 8-10% in "heterosexual exploration,"
20% are homosexual with half of them active, 6% are pedophiles, almost
4% of them targeting boys. However, Sipes observed "the homosexual
contacts are four times more likely to come to the attention of
parents or authorities, especially if the sexual involvement stops
short of intercourse in heterosexual cases."
The offices of the national monthly Freethought Today out of Madison,
Wisconsin, receive three to four newspaper clippings per week from
readers detailing a new criminal or civil court accusation against a
priest or Protestant minister. It has surveyed reported cases in North
America during the years of 1988 and 1989 and found 250 reported cases
of criminal charges involving child-molesting priests, ministers or
ministerial staff in the United States and Canada. Of the accused
clergy, 75 were Catholic priests (39.5%), and 111 were Protestant
ministers (58%). Also charged were one Mormon clergyman, one occult
minister and two cult ministers. Protestant cases involved equal
numbers of mainstream and fundamentalist/evangelical denominations.
That study revealed no rabbis charged with child molestation.
Although priests make up only about 10% of North American clergy, they
were 40% of the accused, leaving the Catholic Church, which complains
that the media are "priest-bashing," with no grounds for criticism.
With outcome unknown in about a fifth of the cases, the study found
that 88% of all charged clergy were convicted, with slightly lower
conviction rate for priests--81%.
A majority of cases did not go to trial, with 61% of accused reverends
pleading guilty (53%) or no contest (8%). Three-quarters of all clergy
who pleaded innocent were found guilty. About half of the Catholic
priests pleading innocent were convicted.
The study revealed that Catholic priests were acquitted or dismissed
of child molestation charges at a higher rate than Protestant
ministers. Similarly, Catholic priests received a higher rate of
suspended sentences when convicted, and when sentenced, spent
considerably less time in jail Or prison. Seventy-eight percent of
convicted ministers were incarcerated with sentences as brief as 30
days in jail to as long as three lifeterms. About 10% received
probation only.
However, priests were incarcerated at a lower rate, with only 68.5% of
convicted priests spending time in jail or prison. The average
Protestant clergyman sent to prison received 11.5 years, while the
average Roman Catholic priest received only 3.6 years. Of the 21
priests sent to prison, none received a sentence higher than nine
years. By contrast, of 58 sentenced Protestant clergy, 45% received
ten or more years, including three life sentences.
Almost twice as many priests received suspended sentences.
Additionally, one priest was given treatment only as a sentence and
another was channeled into pretrial intervention with charges dropped
upon successful completion.
Overall, 7.4% of the cases against Protestant ministers were dismissed
and 4.7% were acquitted. Cases against priests were dropped at a
higher rate of 12.5% dismissal, and 6.3% acquittal.
The very high conviction rate would indicate that prosecutors tend to
charge clergymen only when they feel very confident of the outcome.
In these cases, involving 190 ordained clergy and 60 nonordained
clergy staff, such as Sunday school teachers, crimes mainly occurred
at church locations. One convicted priest molested victims just before
giving Mass. Sexual abuse occurred at the sacristy, in the rectory or
church van. About half of the clergymen were officially involved in
youth functions. About a third were accused of molesting youths during
camping trips, youth group activities, retreats and crusades. About
20% were accused of molesting children at religious schools, 21% at
church homes for children or through foster care. Eleven percent were
accused of abusing children during counseling sessions exclusively,
although other cases involved a counseling relationship.
Most ministers were charged with molesting at least four or five
victims but were believed to have assaulted many others. The sexual
assault charges ranged from indecent touching to rape, sodomy, and
child pornography. Much of the abuse was long-term, with some children
assaulted as many as 1,000 times. Included in the study were prominent
clergy and evangelists who had made names for themselves through
special ministries or "good works."
Charges for all 190 cases involved a total of 847 identified victims.
Conservatively, according to speculations made by investigators, the
190 clergy had at least 4,000 other victims, for a low estimate of an
average of 21 victims each. These victims often were not included in
charges for pragmatic legal reasons, because they had been molested in
other jurisdictions or times, or because the statute of limitations
had been exceeded.
The profile of the typical clergyman charged with molesting children:
a 45 year old man (ages ranged from 24 to 80 at the time of arrest),
with four to five named victims, most often boys in their early teens.
Of all the accused, 37% involved crimes against girl victims, 58% male
victims, 3.2% children of both sexes, 1% sex not specified.
Freethought Today's follow-up study of 1990 cases found one clergyman
or church leader busted every three days for child sexual abuse. Two-
thirds of these 106 perpetrators were priests or Protestant ministers.
This study was concluded at a point where slightly more than a third
of the cases were closed. Of those with final dispositions, almost
all--98%--of the accused had been convicted. Only one of the closed
cases had ended in a not-guilty verdict. The briefer study confirmed
the earlier findings of a Catholic versus Protestant double standard,
with priests receiving lighter sentences than Protestant ministers,
and nonordained clerical staff receiving by far the heaviest
sentences. Catholic priests accused in 1990 were prosecuted mainly for
molesting boys, while about half of the Protestant clergy were charged
for crimes involving female victims. Cover-ups were specifically noted
in newspaper reports in 38% of the cases, including many Protestant
cases. Shockingly, 11 out of the 46 Protestant ministers charged in
1990 with criminal sexual abuse had prior convictions--nearly a
quarter of the cases, all dating since 1985. Most of the men had
received light sentences enabling them to return to the pulpit, and
resume sexual abuse of children, quickly. Churches are not only
failing to check ministers' records, but in some instances are
knowingly hiring convicted child molesters.
The most blatant cover-up that year involved a Salvation Army minister
who was permitted to keep his job and was given continuing access to
children after back-to-back arrests for sexually abusing children
during bible classes.
Defendants often unabashedly used their piety and positions to ask for
(and sometimes receive) court leniency.
Scene of the Crimes
Many parents assume their children could not be safer than when in the
care of a church institution or clergyman. Confessionals, youth
groups, Sunday School outings, Christian Scouting, day camps, summer
camps, church schools and athletics, church nurseries and day care all
grant clergy special access to children and young teenagers--often
otherwise unchaperoned. Chaplains have access to church facilities as
well as public ones. Molesting priests have often invited a young boy
for weekend trips, "sleep-overs" at the rectory and similar outings,
which might otherwise be forbidden or would normally raise parental
suspicions. Parents may be flattered when a "man of God" spends a
great deal of time alone with their child.
The first nationally breaking news story about church coverups of sex
crimes broke in 1984, when well-known attorney Gloria Allred of Los
Angeles brought the country's first "clergy malpractice" lawsuit that
year on behalf of Rita Milla, a devout Catholic teenager. One day
Father Santiago Tamayo reached through the broken screen in the
confessional to fondle her breasts. By January 1980, he was engaging
in sexual intercourse with her. He introduced her to Father Cruces,
who also used her sexually. In all, five other priests encouraged her
compliance, flaunting their religious authority over the sheltered
teenager. Rita later told news media that the priests had told her sex
was natural, and that "priests get lonely, too." She was aiding them
in their religious work.
When she became pregnant in January 1982, she was packed off to the
Philippines. She told her family she would be "studying medicine." The
priests intended for her to have her baby in secrecy and leave it
there, giving her only $450 to last seven months. She lived with
cockroaches and ate only one meal a day, nearly dying during
childbirth of eclampsia. Her family rescued her, and Rita and her baby
daughter returned to the states, after Bishop Abaya of the Philippines
promised to help her. When that aid failed to materialize, Rita went
to Bishop Ward of Los Angeles for help. He said there was nothing he
could do. After that final betrayal of trust, Rita and her mother
filed the landmark clergy malpractice suit, seeking to establish
paternity, set up child support, and sue the priests and the church
for civil conspiracy for breach of fiduciary duty, fraud, deceit and
clergy malpractice-and "to protect other young women from the pain and
suffering caused by priests who abuse their position of trust," said
Attorney Allred. The courts dismissed the case, citing a one-year time
limit.
When Allred called the press conference to expose the scandal and
announce the suit, all seven priests mysteriously vanished without
trace, according to the archdiocese of Los Angeles. In 1991, Tamayo
finally resurfaced, documenting to media that the diocese had warned
him and his cohorts to flee the country. Tamayo offered proof that the
church had known his whereabouts for years, including during the time
when Allred tried unsuccessfully to serve him and the other priests
with legal papers. The archdiocese had sent him monthly payments for
years while he hid out in the Philippines.
In 1988, the church had finally set up a $20,000 trust fund for
Milla's daughter, after she agreed to drop a slander suit against a
bishop. The church lawyer maintained it was not an admission of
liability, but an act of benevolence for the child. A paternity suit
is unresolved.
A second nationally renowned case was filed in 1985, focusing more
public attention on Catholic cover-ups. Father Gilbert Gauthe, of
Louisiana, admitted to molesting 37 boys and one girl. He pleaded
guilty on various charges in October 1985 and was given a 20-year
prison sentence which can not be paroled. The families of many of his
victims went to court when they learned that a bishop and monsignor
were aware of child molestation reports against Gauthe for more than
ten years before his abuse was halted.
Small-town Catholics turned against the families as trouble-makers.
All but one family agreed to settle their civil lawsuits out of court.
But Faye and Glenn Gastal had their day in court. After their son,
eleven, testified in court, he received a one million dollar award for
damages from the Catholic Church on February 7, 1986. His parents
received $250,000 as compensation for their pain, ostracism and
harassment.
Gauthe had molested some of the children as many as 200 times,
including anal and oral rape, during church outings, when alone with
children, in the rectory, sacristy, confessional and the priest's
camper.
The Gastal boy testified that he was led to believe that being
molested by priests was part of his job as altar boy. He thought his
parents knew what was happening: "I thought he was doing the right
thing because he was a priest." Later, the priest guaranteed his
silence by threatening that "he would hurt my daddy, he'd kill him."
In what is the classic Catholic "musical chairs" mode of dealing with
accusations against priests, it was revealed that the church had
simply transferred Gauthe to new, unsuspecting communities. Parents
had confronted the priest as early as 1972. In 1974, Gauthe admitted
to a bishop that he had made "imprudent touches" in "one isolated
case." The following year, the bishop appointed him chaplain of the
diocesan Boy Scouts. In 1977, more parents complained. Gauthe was
directed to seek psychiatric treatment by church officials, but in
1978 was transferred to another family parish. The sworn statement of
one church official was, "I am trained as a priest to forget sins."
The enormity of the scandal prompted even the National Catholic
Reporter to condemn the cover-ups.
The church has paid at least $14 million to the victims of Gauthe
alone.
The case of Father Carmelo "Mel" Baltazar exemplifies the predatory
nature of the crimes. At a church position at Queen of the Valley
Hospital in Napa, California, he molested a boy on a dialysis machine.
Despite this, the Catholic Church in Boise was willing to hire him as
chaplain of St. Alphonsus Regional Medical Center. They took no action
after an Episcopalian minister reported to Bishop Sylvester Treinen
that Baltazar had fondled a boy in double-leg traction. Bishop Treinen
compared Baltazar's behavior to that of a car that, "no matter how
well you take care of [it]" occasionally has a flat tire. He was
finally prosecuted for luring two teenaged boys to his church home in
the Boise diocese. Following his arrest, it was learned that the U.S.
Navy had kicked him out of a chaplaincy position, and that he had been
transferred from three dioceses for abusive behavior. In 1987, he was
sentenced to seven years for sexual acts with a teenaged boy he met in
the psychiatric ward. Judge Alan Schwartz said at the sentencing: "I
think the Catholic Church has its atonement to make as well. They
helped create you."
The willingness of congregants to circle the wagons and support an
accused clergyman has numerous illustrations. One 1986 criminal case
revealed the extent to which fundamentalist backers of a convicted
molesting preacher would go. Christian supporters from three states
filled the courtroom during hearings against Rev. James Britton Myers,
of Kenosha, Wisconsin. Although he was convicted of the heinous crime
of raping a little girl at his Christian school over a five-year
period, starting when she was five, one member of his congregation
called the crime "one drop of ink in crystal clear water."
A judge in California was inundated with letters of support asking him
to pardon Father Andrew Christian Andersen, who was found guilty in
1986 of 26 counts of child molestation. Following the guilty verdict,
Andersen was hugged by a church pastor and dozens of supporters. The
judge sentenced him only to five years' probation, with the condition
that he serve it at a church-owned treatment facility in New Mexico.
Although the Diocese of Orange had received a report by a mother that
her son had been abused by him, Andersen had been permitted to
continue regular contact with altar boys for the following three
years. The church never reported anything. He had been sent for some
counseling, but quickly resumed molesting, and was not removed from
positions involving the supervision of boys. He was finally reported
to authorities by a psychiatrist counseling a 13 year old altar boy.
The postscript of this coverup is that Andersen's parole was revoked
in 1990 and he was sentenced to six years in state prison, following
his arrest in New Mexico for forcing a teenaged boy into a car,
assaulting him and trying to sodomize him.
The Salvation Army would not remove its minister, Gary Hallock of
Pennsylvania, from his duties teaching children bible stories, even
after he had been arrested for sexually abusing children at his
church! The "captain," an equivalent of minister, had victimized seven
children, ages four to 15, and even a profoundly retarded 15 year old
boy. He was sentenced in 1990 to up to 72 years in prison. Meanwhile,
a civil suit was launched against the Salvation Army for their
negligence by parents of victims.
The extent to which a minister-molester is held above suspicion,
despite blatant criminal acts, is exemplified by a 1987 criminal suit
in Nashville. The arrest of Rev. Jack Law, a Baptist minister, was
heralded by a headline, "Girl, 5, Raped Under Pew." He was accused not
only of that, but of molesting and raping her two sisters. These
crimes took place at the family home as well as during an outing
arranged by him so the girls could help him distribute religious
tracts. The girls had tried to tell their parents, but were not
believed. "Being a preacher," the father said of him to local media,
"we thought he was a good man." Law killed himself that year rather
than face trial.
The devout often find it unthinkable that a respected member of the
clergy could molest children, especially boys, who are often
considered invulnerable to exploitation. A case in point occurred in
Tampa, Florida, when a mother walked in on Rev. Fonville Gandy when he
was placing his hands on her son's genitals. He told her he was giving
her son an "anatomy lesson," and she believed him! Obviously she could
not permit herself to believe the evidence before her very eyes that a
minister could betray her trust, sexually abuse her child, then lie
and cover-up. The mother realized the truth when Rev. Gandy was later
arrested for other molestations, and she testified against him during
his trial. Gandy was sentenced in 1986 to five years in prison.
Why are churches often a safe harbor for criminal child molesters?
There are many answers to that question. It is, in part, because
children are taught to give "men of God" special deference and
obedience. Sherryll Kerns Kraizer, author of Safe Child Book and a
pioneer in developing sexual abuse prevention, writes: "Many children
tell me that their body belongs to God." A young child who assumes his
or her body is not their own, but is "owned by God," will be
vulnerable to abuse by an esteemed "man of God."
Clergy, whose role includes "pastoral counseling," are trusted and
sought after for confidances and guidance. Yet being a pastor is no
guarantee of having had professional training, not even necessarily a
degree, much less professional counseling licenses, academic credits
or the necessary trained and disinterested professional attitude.
Clergy are often in contact with depressed or hurting parishioners,
who are expected to confess and confide deeply personal feelings. The
Catholic Church's traditional ritualistic confession of "sins" sets up
an opportunity for children to be inappropriately questioned by
priests on intimate or embarrassing topics. Pastoral counselors join
secular professionals in a field in which at least 10% of counselors
admit to sexually abusing a client, while half of all counselors
report treating clients who have been sexually abused by others in
their profession. The power inequities during a counseling situation
have led to sexually exploitative relationships that have been
compared to incestuous betrayal.
The denial that may be natural when it is learned that a respected
member of the community has been accused of a shameful act seems to be
magnified in church circles. Congregations may form a wagon circle
around the accused assailant, ostracizing victims and their families.
Church hierarchy may actively cover up, bribe, fail to act or
knowingly pass on a child molester to another parish or congregation.
Church teachings of "forgiveness" of sins may be promoted at the
expense of the victims.
Finally, churches are used to operating as though they were above the
law. Unlike other nonprofit groups, churches are not required to even
file information on financial arrangements, and are used to special
favors and community approval. While many do not come to the rescue of
the battered principle of state/church separation when it is under
assault, they wave the First Amendment banner vigorously when it comes
to investigations by public authorities of wrong-doing within church
doors. They treat these cases as a crisis of faith, rather than as
criminal actions.
Churches are not policing themselves, and are often unpoliced by the
state. Even under fire, churches are dragging their feet to institute
reforms. Since 1986, the Church Mutual Insurance Company has formally
advised church clients to fingerprint all applicants for church
positions, to carefully check out resumes and gaps in resumes, to call
references and demand them for work with children, to institute
careful monitoring of church day cares, to make sure two adults act as
chaperones on field trips, to take, in short, the kinds of precautions
that public schools and better child care facilities have been taking
for years.
Are the churches doing it? No. Several denominations have passed
position papers or policies for dealing with internal investigations
once a complaint has been lodged privately. None has announced steps
in keeping with all the recommendations of the Church Mutual Insurance
Company. The hierarchy of the Catholic Church insists that each
diocese must make its own policies and determinations. In 1990,
Auxiliary Bishop A. James Quinn of Cleveland told a conference of
canon attorneys to consider hiding the crimes, by sending files on
priests accused of child molestation to the Vatican Embassy in the
District of Columbia, which he maintains is outside the reach of the
U.S. Courts. "If there's something there you really don't want people
to see, you might send it off to the Apostolic Delegate," said Quinn.
In addition, church officials are either exempt by law from the
mandatory child abuse reporting laws, or prosecutors are interpreting
those laws as if they were exempt. Any action taken by churches
largely has been in reaction to civil suits against them, when their
pocketbooks are threatened, and, to a lesser extent, due to
unfavorable publicity.
The Catholic hierarchy in particular has been outspoken in trying to
minimize or defend abusers within its ranks. Typical of public
statements was the opinion of Archbishop James Hayes, quoted in the
Toronto Star (July 2, 1989): "The church exists to pardon and
heal . . . There may be cases where the child was chasing after the
man, looking for affection and whatever happened, happened only once."
Milwaukee Archbishop Rembert Weakland editorialized in the May 1988
Catholic Herald: "We must not imply that the abuser is not guilty of
serious crime, but we could easily give a false impression that any
adolescent who becomes sexually involved with an older person does so
without any degree of personal responsibility. Sometimes not all
adolescent victims are so innocent; some can be sexually very active
and aggressive and often quite streetwise."
With such attitudes, was it surprising that Cardinal John O'Connor of
New York City wanted to offer Father Bruce Ritter a job, even after a
probe of his charitable Covenant House network for runaways found him
guilty of sexual and financial misconduct in 1990? Ritter was never
prosecuted for a 20-year pattern of sexual misconduct.
One Catholic leader was felled by charges of cover-up. In 1990
Archbishop Alphonsus Penney of Newfoundland resigned, after a judicial
inquiry proved he had evidence of abuse of boys at Mount Cashel
orphanage as early as 1979. Twenty priests, former priests or Catholic
lay workers were facing charges or had already been convicted of
molesting boys, orphans and wards of the state. Boys as young as six
were sexually abused, one within hours of being admitted. Penney had
chided a mother for "gossip" when she complained she witnessed a
priest abusing her three year old son during a "blessing." A judicial
inquiry characterized priests as assuming their vocation licensed them
to molest, and that they demanded and received special treatment from
the attorney general, social workers and police. Police had
interviewed 26 boys in 1975, but had dropped the investigation until
1988, when some of the grown victims came forward once more. Penney
admitted, "We are a sinful church. We are naked."
The case of Father Baltazar, who had sexually abused a helpless boy
attached to a dialysis machine, and another in double leg traction,
epitomizes the ruthlessness of child molesters, the heartlessness of
the hierarchy, and the vulnerability of their victims. The egomaniacal
and rapacious drives of a molester who blots out all sense of right
and wrong, brutally disregarding the pain he is causing children, have
often found a parallel in churches bent on protecting themselves at
the expense of thousands of victims.
If religion or any institution depends on the sexual subordination or
exploitation of children or women, then it is better that such
institutions should cease to exist. If it is a question of the
survival of the churches versus the safety of children, then our
allegiance clearly must be with children.
In 1988, 1 appeared on a "People Are Talking" television show in San
Francisco, to speak about my book, Betrayal of Trust: Clergy Abuse of
Children, along with a Catholic mother whose son had been molested by
a priest, and opposite a local priest and fundamentalist minister in
San Francisco. The audience remained stoic as the Catholic mother and
I regaled them with horror stories of betrayal and sexual abuse of
children by clergymen. But when one of the clergymen on the show
"exposed" the fact that I am an atheist, a loud collective gasp was
sounded from the good Christians in the audience.
It was a telling demonstration of that narrow bigotry, inculcated in
so many Christians, that goodness has far more to do with one's
professions of faith than with conduct and actions.
This corrupted idea of morality not only produces an audience that is
more shocked at atheism than it is concerned about victims of abusive
ministers, but has produced a malignancy of collusion and cover-up in
the churches. The religious scandal of clergy abusing children should
rightfully close many church doors.
Annie Laurie Gaylor is editor of Freethought Today, published by the
Freedom From Religion Foundation, Madison, Wisconsin.
Excerpt, with permission, from "The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You
To Read," editor Tim C. Leedom. Published by Truth Seeker Co., Inc.,
1993. P.O. Box 28550, San Diego, CA 92198.
You want more? There’s many more cases which are much worse then what
Jackson was accused of. If he’d been found guilty, they’d probably
would’ve found some sort of reason to set him free, way before his
sentence would’ve been carried out.
It happens so often, they sometimes don’t even give the longer
sentences anymore.
I have now put together 7 of these type of files.
CA is so full with registered sex offenders, it’s to the point there’s
one living on every corner of some CA counties. California has been
named the worst state to raise children,
just because of this fact. So if you want to cut something or anyone
down, might as well keep all of this on mind.
Why, oh why do I do this?
Because I'm a struggling journalist, hoping someone will notice me,
and hire me.
Denny. (D Edward Strausser.)
Fievel... (I like the smell of my own spray, I think it smells
sweet.)
Mister Reggin Rellik
"FievelJ" <fievelmous...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec
Wrong thread, mouse shit, you dozey fucking piss weak excuse of a f'loon.
FievelJ
> "FievelJ" <fievelmousekewitz1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:bad813ec-78c9-4090...@a6g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec
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> Wrong thread, mouse shit, you dozey fucking piss weak excuse of a f'loon.
I guess so. I'd have to be like Tony, to be a better f'loon.
The point, was there's better things to make a big deal outa.
Fievel.
Mister Reggin Rellik
Grovel away, mouse shit, it's still THE WRONG FUCKING THREAD, mouse shit
f'loon.
Anthony x
FievelJ
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syQsYdrVuyQ
Dah,, What?
Don't you have half a brain?
Fievel.
Anthony x
You are not a Michael Jackson fan. You are just on here feeding the
trolls.
You have been defending the Arvizo and Chandler, it dont matter what
ever they confess because we all know the truth.
What type of person would make up nasty lies about a person who saved
their life? Gavin Arvizo aka Anton Jackson is still scum.
Anthony x
Jose Sanchez
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch
Because he did.
Rot in hell Evan Chandler
Rot in hell Evan Chandler
R6
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enQIS-BiB_I
MJ only had sex with boys.
Jose Sanchez
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=animal+porn
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Who cares why? He was and that's all you need to know.