speaking of gayness, saw "the velvet goldmine" lastnight. pretty good.
but the chronological order of events got really confusing after awhile.
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PUBLIC TV AIRS GAY AWARENESS FILM
By Kim Curtis, Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- A teacher asks a fourth-grader what being gay
means. The confused boy explains haltingly that it has something to do
with black people marrying white people.

Asked what words they thought of to describe gay people, the class
suggests ``pervert,'' ``weird,'' ``funny,'' ``fancy,'' ``sick'' and
``gross.''

Elsewhere, a first-grader volunteers that she knows two gay men. They
live in Nebraska.

``Kids are absorbing information. Some of it's accurate and some of it's
really off the wall,'' said filmmaker Debra Chasnoff.

Her documentary, ``It's Elementary,'' began airing on dozens of public
television stations this month despite having been turned down by the
national PBS organization.

Conservative groups have long complained about the film, which has been
shown at teacher-training seminars, parent-teacher association meetings,
and churches and synogogues since 1996.

The American Family Association, a conservative Christian group based in
Biloxi, Miss., has urged its members to protest the broadcast. It and
other groups have suggested PBS stations air a rebuttal video, ``Suffer
the Children.''

``You don't commend a destructive activity to someone just to make them
feel better. That's what ``It's Elementary'' does,'' said David Miller
of the AFA. At least one major PBS station, KCTS in Seattle, agreed to
put the rebuttal on the air.

``It's Elementary,'' filmed in classrooms in San Francisco; New York;
Cambridge, Mass.; and Madison, Wis., eavesdrops on teacher-student
discussions about stereotypes.

So far, 89 of the country's 347 public television stations plan to run
`ecutives rejected the documentary, KQED-TV in San Francisco helped
Chasnoff get American Public Television to distribute it, with financial
support from the Ford Foundation, the Streisand Foundation and James C.
Hormel, whom President Clinton appointe first openly gay ambassador.

WNET in New York broadcast it last Thursday, drawing about 172,000
viewers, an average prime-time audience, said station executive Stella
Giammasi.

``We got a lot of nasty calls before we aired this program from what
seemed like a pressure group,'' Giammasi said. Afterward, he said, the
station received 19 responses from viewers, eight negative and 11
positive.

Chasnoff, a lesbian who has two sons ages 10 and 5, said she made the
film to inspire parents and teachers to try to raise children's
sensitivity to gay issues.

``I really wanted to see if we could make a film to open up the public
dialogue ... and encourage adults to rethink their assumptions,'' she
said from her San Francisco office. ``To say it's not OK to have
negative stereotypes about gay people. Gay people exist and should be
treated respectfully like everyone else.''

She said she is considering a lawsuit over the rebuttal video since
``Suffer the Children'' uses much of her documentary without permission.

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*comes at the mention of vg* ohhhhhh my gawd... *shudder* thanks, that felt
good.
it was a little bit confusing but it's all good....

*raGdoLL*
back and dumb as ever

Missy Twigglet wrote

*and* his penis.

*raGdoLL*
i shall return to amp one day soon.

It makes more sense if you watch it about 2-3 times.
Damn I love that movie.
Ewan McGregor & Brian Molko in one film, how could I *not* love it?

*sigh*

--
Missy Twigglet
thinking about taking this to amp, where for once she's be posting
something on topic.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Proud Canuck

Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.
Happiness is merely the remission of pain.

and jack fairy! and...and... and whoever played brian slade! my *god*, does
life get any better? (well..maybe..)
but...damnit, i want to wear brian molko's hat. ::pouts::

~Rev. Heather (all the young dudes)
_______________________
MacArthur Park is melting
In the dark
All the sweet green icing
Flowing down...

Ahhh the sweet things in life, pretty boys and boys who stand up on
stage and 'flip' around.

:)

--
Missy Twigglet
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Proud Canuck

Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.
Happiness is merely the remission of pain.

*sigh* yum yum Jonathan Rhys Meyers :)  I do believe he is the "God of
the Month" at the goth-boi babe page :o)

I want *all* of the makeup that was used in that film & the feather's
from brian slade's glittery-metallic body suit/outfit.  Those would look
amazing glued onto my mirror.

--
Missy Twigglet
daughter of glam
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Proud Canuck

Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.
Happiness is merely the remission of pain.

yesh, he is. Dude, I live on that page.
a couple of my friends have made it on there, actually...
and um... hehe.. it's updated every tuesday.
and the gorgeous goth guy of the month - do you know what's up with that? yisca
hasn't updated it from january, last i checked...

~Rev. Heather (i have no life.)
_______________________
MacArthur Park is melting
In the dark
All the sweet green icing
Flowing down...

The page just makes my life so much happier :)

I've only known one[1] of the guys, but hey, he was a god of the month
(Mr. January, Robin Black)

Really?  I hadn't even noticed, but now that I know...

[1]  Used to know would be a better description actually *pout*

--
Missy Twigglet
off to look at cutie goth bois
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Proud Canuck

"Society prepares the crime
The criminal commits it"

- Spray paint on a subway in NY

hell yes. though the two of my friends that i knew *before* they were on there
both were on the gorgeous goth guy page first. and one of 'em is like..my best
friend... he's awesome. :)
then i have a couple of friends that i met through gbbotw..

woah. that's a good one to know.
though i'd rather know the *first* god of the month. ::wink::

yep. still the first ggg of 1999... karim...
(oh, and knowing is half the battle. GEEEE EYYYYEEEE JOOOOOOEEEE!!!)

aww...

~Rev. Heather (handshakeringsignsnakeeyebitemine)
_______________________
MacArthur Park is melting
In the dark
All the sweet green icing
Flowing down...

*wipes drool from the sides of her mouth* mmmmmm brian.

I used to have a GI Joe; cept he met his maker on a tragic night that
involved alcohol & a bonfire...Poor Joe.  Speaking of booze & fire, I
get to go camping on tuesday :o)  Yay!

--
Missy Twigglet
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Proud Canuck

"Society prepares the crime
The criminal commits it"

- Spray paint on a subway in NY

Ok two things.....velvet goldmine kicks ass, but I saw it b4 I knew who
Brain molko was, so can anyone tell me what scene he is in??
And secondly, what is this page you are raving about?? whats the addy??

Zeo

news:929364898.928515@stitch.ispdr.net.au...

I haven't seen it yet (grr...), but he's in two performance scenes, I think,
from what I can gather from hysterical ramblings on amp...  I do know for
sure that Placebo perform "20th Century Boy" in it, tho.

http://www.nycgoth.com/online/gothboi/

I expect we'll see you there, soon, Zeo?

The Iconoplast
~ hehe ~

daniel... duh. have you no brains? if you know what sir molko looks like,
it's really hard/next to impossible to miss. he's sitting at a table with
steve, and also he performs... they're part of the Flaming Creatures in the
movie. the addy of the page we so love is
http://www.nycgoth.com/online/gothboi/ . i don't hardly know how it would be
benificial to you, but hey... *shrug* share the wealth.

Like I said...I saw the movie before I knew who he was or what he looked
like, so there fore I did not pay attention to his character or facial
features during the movie, hence not remembering where he was in the
movie.....

Zeo

you know... i have 2 placebo albums, both of which have nice photos of
the band. basically, i've seen the posed, still-life version of brian
molko. and, until watching "the velvet goldmine" half-drunk with a
friend, i have yet to see the live-action part of him... damn does he
need to wear more make-up... 'cause whatever he's got going on right now
just aint working... sorry, ladies.

D.M.

I wanna live at that festival where *brian* had his hair all long and he was in
the blue dress... you know..
and he was like "call me sebastian" and i screamed "SEBASTIAN!! SEBASTIAN
SEBASTIAN SEBASTIAN!!" at the screen... hehe...

i suck.

~Rev. Heather (woah)
_______________________
MacArthur Park
is melting in the dark
all the sweet green icing
flowing down...

Icon....you know me too well......I'll be there with my sisters leather
dominitrix outfit on!!*LOL* The one you like so much...*hehe*

Zeo