anyone for guilt?
Gill Smith
any feel guilty about not using your know-how, except on how to get the best
out of your rig?
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Ernie Garner
>
>any feel guilty about not using your know-how, except on how to get the best
>out of your rig?
What makes you think that anyone with technical skills limits
themselves to just "getting the best out of their rig"?
And besides, getting the "best out of your rig" means different things
to different people. For you it may be plugging instruments in and
adjusting the tone and volume. For me it means sampling a Kurzweil
PC88's piano sound and putting it in my Motif ES. Or reverse
engineering the bulk sysex dump in the AX-7 so that I can create a
sysex dump with the volume sends removed from all 128 patches. Or
building & programming my own drum machine.
I know that between projects like that and repairing my equipment I
get plenty of techie ya ya's out.
Ernie
Boyd Williamson
Tf-dnRXaYY1DxZXW...@brightview.co.uk, "Gill Smith"
<gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> any feel guilty about not using your know-how, except on how to get the best
> out of your rig?
Of all the things that I might feel guilty about... this ain't one of 'em...
Zoid
SID
wrote:
Do you feel any guilt about asking such asinine questions?
LoDan
wrote:
..show off.. : )...but can you put a windshield wiper on a monkey's
ass.
Mike Stanford
"quite techinically qualified", but at the same time, any newbie asking what
to the techies maybe a simple question will get a relatively simple answer
without the convoluted technical comments.
It all adds up to, no the "quite techinically qualified" should not feel
guilty because they do help those of us who are less techinically qualified.
Mike Stanford
(One who is well less than techinically qualified)
"Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:Tf-dnRXaYY1DxZXW...@brightview.co.uk...
Ernie Garner
>ass.
With or without interval?
(www.ohernie.com/theknack.mp3)
Engineering, it's what my brain does ...
Ernie
SID
>
> ..show off.. : )...but can you put a windshield wiper on a monkey's
> ass.
LoDan
wrote:
I'm a retired Engineer, I don't think anymore...I just act. (up)
Leo
Ernie Garner
You're lucky, my brain never stops i.e. shuts the fuck up. I have to
have the radio on, generally to some public radio program, in order to
go to sleep.
Ernie
LoDan
wrote:
I do understand the vacuum that needs to be filled. When I was a young
child (and even now) at home, if I couldn't see the inside of
something...it was a took apart s.o.b.
I was (am) a mechanical design guy, did heavy construction, power,
petro-chem and paper mills. Lots of piping design and a bit of
structural.
I've tinkered with electronics since the early 60's but it's all
gotten away from me and I don't have the gear for the small and recent
stuff...plus I can't see it anymore.
My best friend on my workbench is my lighted magnifier. We've
discussed it before, but I love schematics and the smell of solder and
flux is as familiar to me as my mama's cookin'.
I have no idea what grown up geeks are called...geeks I guess :)
But I really do understand and I was joking about the thinking, but I
tend to be impulsive, where you lean more to logical, well thought
out, well read and dare I say...direct <g>
Now in the nearly ten years or so I've known you, there have been a
number of times I thought you acted like a real jerk, but I also know
you can take one on the chin and offer to buy a beer (German of
course) :)
John Wayne said:
"It ain't braggin' if ya done it"
thanks..
leo
Gill Smith
news:9088c23b-5fb0-4a37...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
My education was the hard sciences but never really used it
went into estate/land management
ended up running parks/cemeteries/sports facilities for local governemnt
paid to cruise around English country lanes instead of peering down
microscopes
These days I spend a lot of time on music stuff and get by on a modest
income from various sources
and, in the depth of this recession, the papers are full of adverts for
science bods to work in labs, which
nobody wants
of such is The Decline Of The West
hence my question
I'm guessing you don't have/never had the option of wrestling with such....?
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SID
wrote:
> "SID" <marog...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
I'm too involved with real life.
Jim
> "Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> My education was the hard sciences but never really used it
>
> went into estate/land management
>
> ended up running parks/cemeteries/sports facilities for local governemnt
>
> paid to cruise around English country lanes instead of peering down
> microscopes
>
> These days I spend a lot of time on music stuff and get by on a modest
> income from various sources
>
> and, in the depth of this recession, the papers are full of adverts for
> science bods to work in labs, which
> nobody wants
>
> of such is The Decline Of The West
>
> hence my question
>
> I'm guessing you don't have/never had the option of wrestling with such....?
>
> --
Gill, it would seem to me that a life spent roaming the countryside
would have its rewards. I love the outdoors.
The Decline of the West is certainly all around us. Some choose not to
see it tho. People acting in their short term interests and long term
detriment. Their choices seem rational looked at for the short term, and
they ignore the long.
That that sort of choice is reasonable seems to expose flaws in our
societal systems.
And on a related thing, I personally have a HUGE problem with why people
sometimes behave like a mindless herd. The recent US election frenzy /
madness being a great example.
Why do most believe we need a government in the first place ?
I was once an follower of the anarchy philosophy, but now days have
moved a bit. I accept that some limited government is probably
unavoidable. It keeps the gangs of mutant hoards from roaming the
countryside. Do I really believe that is always and would always be a
necessity. Probably not long term ... but it seems reasonable if you're
talking the period immediately following the collapse of a civilization.
See, one person needs to sleep, and so two people with bad designs on
the first need only sleep in turns until they have opportunity.
From that principal gangs gain advantage. It grows from there to full
blown governments peopled with the most aggressive and least principled
among us, acting as a huge protection racket and taxing you for letting
them.
OT ... so I'll wrap this. Plus, if I keep it up, I'll get called you
know what again by those who ... well, basically didn't have a clue.
Although with each passing day, they could, if they desired, read the
news and start trying to catch one as they fly by.
jim d
Gill Smith
news:Spunky-CB066A....@news.giganews.com...
Jim, plenty of meat for protest songs! couple of albums at the very least
maybe even slip in something about the chick and her gig..... who the hell
listens to lyrics anyway
Ernie Garner
>went into estate/land management
>ended up running parks/cemeteries/sports facilities for local governemnt
>paid to cruise around English country lanes instead of peering down
>microscopes
>
>These days I spend a lot of time on music stuff and get by on a modest
>income from various sources
>and, in the depth of this recession, the papers are full of adverts for
>science bods to work in labs, which
>nobody wants
>
>of such is The Decline Of The West
>
>hence my question
>
>I'm guessing you don't have/never had the option of wrestling with such....?
Ahhhh - the problem is you didn't study what you actually wanted to
do. I didn't go into electronics because it was a way of making
money, I went into it because it was something *I* wanted to do. I'm
primarily self-taught. My walls of books aren't there to satisfy a
class or gig, they are there because they hold what I want to learn.
My engineering skills are a part of me, part of my self-definition, so
there is no way for me to not use them. Keep in mind that my actual
music skills are at a "street" level. For me, being a soloact is an
extension of my engineering skills. The only difference is that
instead of hard parameters I am dealing with human/social elements and
probabilistic behavior in order to survive. I have, essentially,
taken my engineering to another level <g>.
(Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that, but this post is
long enough and you don't have time for the rest of the story)
Sounds like you haven't decided what you really want to do and how
important money is to your life. If you didn't really want to be a
scientist then I think you should write it off as something a young
person did because they were supposed to do it. Whatever the expense
of your education, you can't hold yourself accountable for a life
decision made before you knew what you wanted to do with your life.
Ernie
Gill Smith
news:fscog5l9ohgiu39u6...@4ax.com...
Ernie, I'm so old I should be dead! (the first of my pensions kicks in in 2
years)
You'll probably understand that I liked doing higher maths for recreation
the way
'normal' people do crossword puzzles or watch TV soaps
So, having graduated in Chemsistry, I did electrical engineering at night
school,
maths/statistics/computer science on the Open University. I have walls
papered with this stuff
But I'm haunted by one poignant phone call from an optoelectronics firm as
I refused them their job offer because I'd just accepted the plum job
managing
public amenities and open spaces
--
http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
Ernie Garner
>years)
Like the yomama joke:
Yomama is so old that when they told her to act her age, she died.
>But I'm haunted by one poignant phone call from an optoelectronics firm as
>I refused them their job offer because I'd just accepted the plum job
>managing
>public amenities and open spaces
That was how many years ago so now you're going to do *what?* about
it?
Ernie
jim d
> "Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> But I'm haunted by one poignant phone call from an optoelectronics firm as
> I refused them their job offer because I'd just accepted the plum job
> managing
> public amenities and open spaces
>
> --
I have a friend who's big mistake in life was not becoming an
ornithologist. He's an architect and, well I don't know if he actually
hates that, he might have been a lot happier had he followed the path
not taken. Regrets galore. Or so his wife tells me.
My life has been music from the git go, with a small detour into the
world of software. I do love the pure logic and challenges of that. But,
eh, I like music better overall, because I like interacting with people.
What I do now has both sorta combined. There is enough techie aspect in
the recording and doing midi to keep that side of me happy, and I get my
fix of performing with the oldies gigs.
Regrets .... got a few. Did I ever post that long thing I wrote a few
days back about what I'd do if I had life to live over ? Don't
remember. The point of it was tho, that now, in my nearly senior years,
I would change some things. A lot really. And that's not a response I'd
have given even just a few years ago. What I take that to mean is that
I've actually learned a few things as I aged.
There's no point in beating myself up over the choices I made that
turned out not so well. I didn't know then what I know now. I did the
best I could, and well, I do know better now. That's life. I'm actually
learning things. I'm a bit smarter than I was as a 20 year old. Neat huh
?
jim
Gill Smith
I know. 'Guilt' is just an excuse for folks to carry on with what they're
doing
Gill Smith
That is actually quite an achievement if you've managed to stay afloat in
music for that
length of time
many (most?) musos don't
I had too much of a rackety upbringing to opt for anything so intangible,
especially after
I realised I could pass exams
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jim d
>
> That is actually quite an achievement if you've managed to stay afloat in
> music for that
> length of time
>
> many (most?) musos don't
Eh, I'm still alive.
I've had lots of support along the way. I came from a musical family, so
being a player wasn't something they had any problems with. And I met my
wife at one of my gigs ... so she knew what she was getting into :-)
Actually the biggest reason I'm still around is her. She saved money
when we were rolling in it, something I wouldn't have done on my own.
Sure something horrid could happen to me tomorrow. Hopefully not. But
then again, none of us get out alive, so eventually something will.
Oh, and I hate tests. Actually it's more I'm just not at memorizing
stuff. Weird, if I understand the principal of something, I'm good. If
it's just memorizing data ... nope, nearly hopeless.
jim d