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Story behind "That Same Old Obsession"?

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Seth Williamson

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Nov 13, 2008, 3:58:05 PM11/13/08
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This song has such an air of authenticity that it's impossible to
believe it's fiction.

Does anybody know if the song is rooted in real life? Is there a
story behind it? Just what IS "that same old obsession," and who are
the "creatures of evil"?

The thought occurred to me that it might be politics of some type. My
wife thinks drugs? Would be nice to know the real story.

lightf...@rogers.com

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Nov 13, 2008, 10:02:04 PM11/13/08
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from the SONGBOOK booklet:

THAT SAME OLD OBSESSION
The "same old obsession" is probably another person, maybe a
triangle, or maybe it's just about a person's need to be free.
Anything that lurks out there to detract from or to try to destroy a
relationship is painted as evil in this song--evil personified as a
creature.

more info about the songs in the 4 cd set:SONGBOOK:
http://www.lightfoot.ca/songnote.htm

Richard Harison

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Nov 13, 2008, 10:16:26 PM11/13/08
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Gord told me that he thought Elvis might take a crack at it, and wrote it
with Elvis' style in mind.

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Richard Harison
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from the SONGBOOK booklet:


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Ed Mullen

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Nov 13, 2008, 10:34:57 PM11/13/08
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In, oh, 1972 I was singing in bars when my wife was coming in to see me
sing with her fiance. I stood up there on stage and sang this song (and
other heart-rending GL songs) while staring straight at her and her
fiance. Talk about pressure.

Is it based on some real happening? Don't know about Gord but, yeah,
for me, it was real.

We celebrated our 35th anniversary last July. And the beat goes on.

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Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
Is there another word for synonym?

Tony Wesley

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Nov 13, 2008, 11:50:30 PM11/13/08
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On Nov 13, 10:34 pm, Ed Mullen <e...@edmullen.net> wrote:
> In, oh, 1972 I was singing in bars when my wife was coming in to see me
> sing with her fiance. I stood up there on stage and sang this song (and
> other heart-rending GL songs) while staring straight at her and her
> fiance. Talk about pressure.
>
> Is it based on some real happening? Don't know about Gord but, yeah,
> for me, it was real.
>
> We celebrated our 35th anniversary last July. And the beat goes on.

Congratulations, Ed. Let pass along some advice my father gave me:

"Marriage is pretty rough at times. But after the first fifty years,
it gets easier."


And why were you singing with her fiance?

ran...@telus.net

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Nov 14, 2008, 2:14:32 PM11/14/08
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Wow, it's a great feeling to be back here with Ed, Richard and the ol'
gang.

I just love that song and I did from the first time I'd heard it. It
came to me very quickly and I had no problem memorizing the lyrics
because they are so powerful. I always thought that it was a very
underrated song and I just love singing it.
I don't know what it is but it's just one of those tunes that once I
get into it either I get a stranglehold on it or it gets a
stranglehold on me. I'm not sure which is which. I'm just very happy
it's there. I surrender myself totally to it and sometimes it sends
shivers down my spine. Maybe it's those "creatures of evil" at work. I
was very happy to include it as one of the tunes in our pub jam
sessions in Toronto last May.
Also I was overjoyed to see it made it's way onto the CD "Beautiful A
tribute To Gordon Lightfoot." It is sung here by Maria Muldaur and it
is a listener for sure.

Ed your story is wonderful. I love it!

Cheers, Ron J

johnfowles

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Nov 14, 2008, 2:48:50 PM11/14/08
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On Nov 13, 10:16 pm, "Richard Harison" <r...@noway.invalid.com> wrote:
> Gord told me that he thought Elvis might take a crack at it, and wrote it
> with Elvis' style in mind.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Richard Harison<lightfoot...@rogers.com> wrote in message

I too have loved that song deeply since I first heard it
Interesting that it should be linked now to a possible target of Elvis
I had always thought that it would have been a good vehicle for old
blue eyes himself the guy from Hoboken NJ who was in effect Gord's
boss in the Reprise days.
As for a meaning there was an earlier theory presented buy a one time
Newsgrouper who departed to start his own web site with three
succesful abnd vibrantly active meaningful discussion forums.
The guy from Vienna Austria who used the screenname "corfid" in his
posting at:-
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.lightfoot/msg/1065be80e600c007?hl=en

Richard Harison

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Nov 14, 2008, 3:38:43 PM11/14/08
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"johnfowles" <fowle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hmmmm The Chairman of the Board, eh?
You know...I think that would have worked

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Richard Harison

Jesse-Joe

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Nov 14, 2008, 8:14:35 PM11/14/08
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On Nov 13, 11:16 pm, "Richard Harison" <r...@noway.invalid.com> wrote:
> Gord told me that he thought Elvis might take a crack at it, and wrote it
> with Elvis' style in mind.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Richard Harison<lightfoot...@rogers.com> wrote in message

>
> news:a9333d83-0fd2-44c5...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 13, 3:58 pm, Seth Williamson <hazelmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This song has such an air of authenticity that it's impossible to
> > believe it's fiction.
>
> > Does anybody know if the song is rooted in real life? Is there a
> > story behind it? Just what IS "that same old obsession," and who are
> > the "creatures of evil"?
>
> > The thought occurred to me that it might be politics of some type. My
> > wife thinks drugs? Would be nice to know the real story.
>
> from the SONGBOOK booklet:
>
>         THAT SAME OLD OBSESSION
>   The "same old obsession" is probably another person, maybe a
> triangle, or maybe it's just about a person's need to be free.
> Anything that lurks out there to detract from or to try to destroy a
> relationship is painted as evil in this song--evil personified as a
> creature.
>
> more info about the songs in the 4 cd set:SONGBOOK:http://www.lightfoot.ca/songnote.htm
>
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Hey Richard !

If you heard it from {The Man} himself, that's good enough for me.
Thanks for sharing.

Regards,

~Jesse Joe~

drb...@sbcglobal.net

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Nov 15, 2008, 1:15:02 PM11/15/08
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in article 2bfh64....@news.alt.net, Ed Mullen at e...@edmullen.net wrote
on 11/13/08 9:34 PM:

> We celebrated our 35th anniversary last July.

We celebrated our 35th this past June. Our story isn't quite as interesting
as yours though, Ed. It was the "high school sweethearts" thing. :)

donnie

ninjaneer

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Nov 16, 2008, 12:38:37 PM11/16/08
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On Nov 15, 12:15 pm, "drb...@sbcglobal.net" <drb...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> in article 2bfh64.h6t.1...@news.alt.net, Ed Mullen at e...@edmullen.net wrote

Da*n. I only have 28, and counting...
For some reason, I've always associated "Same old Obsession" and
"Fraulein"...
Same sentiments, I guess.
Much under-rated song, I've always thought

Richard Harison

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Nov 18, 2008, 9:06:55 PM11/18/08
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Gord also told me he had Elvis in mind for "Same Old Loverman"

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Richard Harison

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Jesse-Joe

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Nov 19, 2008, 8:17:13 AM11/19/08
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You know Richard, I can almost hear Elvis doing "Same Old Loverman."
But then again Elvis could have sung the telephone book and make it
into a hit. lol !

Thanks for sharing man,

Warmest Regards !

~Jesse Joe~


On Nov 18, 10:06 pm, "Richard Harison" <r...@noway.invalid.com> wrote:
> Gord also told me he had Elvis in mind for "Same Old Loverman"
>
> --
> Regards,
> Richard Harison
>
> "Richard Harison" <r...@noway.invalid.com> wrote in message
>
> news:12266326...@donna.bmts.com...
> | Gord told me that he thought Elvis might take a crack at it, and wrote it
> | with Elvis' style in mind.
> |
> | --
> | Regards,

> | Richard Harison| <lightfoot...@rogers.com> wrote in message


>
> |news:a9333d83-0fd2-44c5...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> | On Nov 13, 3:58 pm, Seth Williamson <hazelmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> | > This song has such an air of authenticity that it's impossible to
> | > believe it's fiction.
> | >
> | > Does anybody know if the song is rooted in real life? Is there a
> | > story behind it? Just what IS "that same old obsession," and who are
> | > the "creatures of evil"?
> | >
> | > The thought occurred to me that it might be politics of some type. My
> | > wife thinks drugs? Would be nice to know the real story.
> |
> | from the SONGBOOK booklet:
> |
> |        THAT SAME OLD OBSESSION
> |  The "same old obsession" is probably another person, maybe a
> | triangle, or maybe it's just about a person's need to be free.
> | Anything that lurks out there to detract from or to try to destroy a
> | relationship is painted as evil in this song--evil personified as a
> | creature.
> |
> | more info about the songs in the 4 cd set:SONGBOOK:
> |http://www.lightfoot.ca/songnote.htm
> |
> |
> |
> |
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Ed Mullen

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Nov 24, 2008, 12:59:57 PM11/24/08
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Good advice.

> And why were you singing with her fiance?

I was singing TO her as she was sitting with her fiance listening to me.
Trust me, he wouldn't sing or talk with me! :-D

Why does a cowboy have two spurs? If one side of the horse goes, so does
the other.

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