Rare Beatles "White Album" no. 0000005 on eBay
amb
One of the earliest and most sought-after numbered versions
of the Beatles' 'White Album' has been put up for auction
on eBay http://atu.ca/BeatlesWhite
The album – no. 0000005 – was given by John Lennon to a
close friend before it entered the public domain.
Number's 1-4 of the album, which went 19 times platinum,
were given to the four members of the Beatles.
Originally self-titled, the album came to be known as the
'White Album' because of its minimalist artwork, which was
created by pop artist Richard Hamilton,
Julia Hutton-Potts, spokesperson for eBay in the UK,
described the lot as “a unique piece of memorabilia for any
Beatles fan.”...
HenkW
Why would anyone who owned this ever sell it...
Why would a close friend to JL ever want to sell this...
Why is it real?
My nummbered copies (with a much higher number) turned less white during
40 years
If it's really real... is seems so good in shape.. someone should
digitalize the content.. love the mono version...
-HW-
amb schreef:
Bernie Woodham
> Why would anyone who owned this ever sell it...
>
Money.
> Why would a close friend to JL ever want to sell this...
>
Not necessarily a friend:
"Some years ago, this album was taken into the collectors shop named
'Vinyl Revival Records' in Newbury, Berkshire, England by a musician
(they did not disclose who) who had visited John in the flat that he
shared with Yoko in late 1968 (that was owned by Ringo) at 34 Montague
Square, Marylebone, London W.1. The musician saw a pile of White
Albums on a table and asked for one. John readily agreed, but said
'Don't take No.1 - I want that'. Instead he took No. 5'."
> Why is it real?
>
> My nummbered copies (with a much higher number) turned less white during
> 40 years
>
Well, this has been cared for like a collector's item. But it does
look like there has been some yellowing.
appe...@yahoo.com
Pecking order?
Bernie Woodham
> I was always curious about who got #1,2,3,4?
>
> Pecking order?
Lennon got #1. So, I bet it was pecking order with #2 - Macca #3 -
George #4 - Eric Clapton.
What musicians was John hanging out with immediately after the white
album?
anthony
This thread reminds me of my own boxed-set LPs of George Harrison's
great solo outing 'All Things Must Pass'.
I was at that stage a record reviewer in London for The Press
Association, with my column syndicated through Britain and what used
to be called the Empire....
And my review copy of 'All Things Must Pass' was a test pressing,
without the proper Apple covers, but very stylish hand-typed record
labels which look as if they were done on an early electric IBM
typewriter. Were electric typewriters around at that time? Can't
remember, but that's what the typing looks like to my eye today. I was
told by an Apple PR that this was one of a few test pressings that
were done at the time, maybe around 10, mostly for The Beatles
themselves, but three or four went out to the press.
So now it's still with me, but now in Australia. And following on
another point earlier in the thread, I'll pull it down from the shelf
one day soon and record it to CD -- the sound from those old original
LPs is still hard to beat, and this set is in perfect condition...
Anthony
Kat
"amb" <nob...@pseudo.borked.net> wrote in message
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> GIGWISE.com http://atu.ca/a136
>
> One of the earliest and most sought-after numbered versions
> of the Beatles' 'White Album' has been put up for auction
> on eBay http://atu.ca/BeatlesWhite
>
> close friend before it entered the public domain.
>
> Number's 1-4 of the album, which went 19 times platinum,
> were given to the four members of the Beatles.
>
Wrong! 4 Numbers 000001 or whatever zeros and letter preceding were given to
the four Beatles. They had them made special so that they would all get a 1.
Makes me suspicious of this number 4. One of the reasons I no longer deal in
memorabilia is that the fakes are made better these days than the originals.
Kat
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I meant 5 not 4.
Kat
One can find a low numbered UK LP easily and unlike the US version it opens
from the top. In the USA there are some 3 million numbered LP's before the
number system was retired. In the UK about a fourth less. The source I quote
about the Beatles receiving all copies of 0000001 is from Capitol records
via the book Beatles Forever author Nicholas Schaffner.
The Walrus was Danny
JL got No 1 mono
Neil Aspinal got No 6 Mono
Alf Bicknall got No 6 Stereo
Both 6's have been up for auction in the past ( IIRC)
Dunno who got No 5..it's interesting though...but bear in mind there
were 2 no 5's..a stereo one and a mono one!
I *think* Ringo Starr got No 4 Mono and it was detroyed in the fire in
his house..but I might have dreampt that!
Danny
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
wrote:
I got 14,375,002....worth any thing? A little dog eared, a few pops,
but what the hell.
marcus
>
> I got 14,375,002....worth any thing? A little dog eared, a few pops,
I bought mine in CT on the day it was released, 11/25/68
It's number A1435721.
Jim, did you leave out a digit, otherwise our numbers are pretty close?
Kat
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It's number A1435721.
they are all worth something. I bought a numbered USA one under 500. on
ebay a few years ago. The cover was rough. Doesn't matter about the rest. I
took all the original posters and records along with the pink photo
separators that came originally and resold it.
marcus
> "marcus" <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Pink photo separaters?
I don't remember those.
Wasn't there the big fold out poster and individual photos?
Kat
Pink photo separaters?
Yes. Originals came with 4 pink separator sheets to protect the individual
photos/ The original photos have a thicker ply than those released later. I
believe the pink sheets were stopped in American releases after the initial
release. Also the releases in USA copied varied from one Capitol pressing
plant to another. Each plant were given a different range of numbers along
with some getting an A prefix. It was possible to buy the LP on the day of
release and find it impossible to find a number below on million. It's also
possible that some of the plants left out the pink sheets. A sealed copy of
any original is worth quite a bit these days. To find it if it indeed
includes those highly sought after sheets would cost 90% of it's value.
marcus
Wow, I had no idea. I can definitely say that the copy I bought on
the day of the album's US release did not have those pink sheets.
Thanks for the info.
The Walrus was Danny
know about...did the pink sheets exist in the UK?
Danny
Kat
"The Walrus was Danny" <dannyist...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> Didn't know about the pink sheets...wow...a beatle snippet I didn't
> know about...did the pink sheets exist in the UK?
>
> Danny
>
I'm not sure. I mostly kept my collectible knowledge of Beatles to the USA.
Stephen X. Carter
wrote:
>Didn't know about the pink sheets...wow...a beatle snippet I didn't
>know about...did the pink sheets exist in the UK?
Not as far as I know.
--
steve.hat.stephencarter.not.com.but.net
Nothing is Beatle Proof!!
marcus
wrote:
> Didn't know about the pink sheets...wow...a beatle snippet I didn't
> know about...did the pink sheets exist in the UK?
>
> Danny
I'm trying to remember how much I paid for "The Beatles" when it came
out in 1968.
I'm thinking it was around $8.00...that just sounds right.
At the time, a single album was around $4.00.
Does anyone recall what the price was in US currency for the White
Album in November 1968?
I remember waiting with a girlfriend for the store to open at 9:00 AM,
and we both ran in and bought it.
Kat
LOL!
I wasn't even born till 1989 how would I know?
Just turned 25 - 25 years ago.
Skokiaan
> GIGWISE.comhttp://atu.ca/a136
>
> One of the earliest and most sought-after numbered versions
> of the Beatles' 'White Album' has been put up for auction
>
> The album – no. 0000005 – was given by John Lennon to a
> close friend before it entered the public domain.
>
> Number's 1-4 of the album, which went 19 times platinum,
> were given to the four members of the Beatles.
>
> Originally self-titled, the album came to be known as the
> 'White Album' because of its minimalist artwork, which was
> created by pop artist Richard Hamilton,
>
> Julia Hutton-Potts, spokesperson for eBay in the UK,
> described the lot as “a unique piece of memorabilia for any
> Beatles fan.”...
The Beatles may have received numbers 1 through 4 of a particular
pressing, but not THE ONLY numners 1 through 4. There were several
different series of numbers, two for each plant pressing the records.
Each factory started at #1 and used separate numbering sequences for
mono and stereo, so each plant made two of each number, starting at
#1.
This means this particular #5 could have no direct link to the band.
There are currently two #5's up for sale: a UK mono on eBay and a UK
stereo at Christie's.
marcus
Do you have a reference that we can go to if we want to determine
which factory pressed our original White Album?
Kat
The biggest way is what number it is. There is a resource on the web that
tells what plant got what group of numbers. Not sure where it is. See if I
can find it later for you. Lunch break now.
Kat
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Also the older Capitol lps had a number on the back of the LP. I believe a
#6 was Jasksonville, Il. Used them to determine where a Butcher was made to
determine how best to strip the top cover off. Big mistake to do that now.
Kat
totally wrong about the pressing plants. This was a long held belief among
collectors and I'm not sure this is correct but here it is. :
http://www.aboutthebeatles.com/discography_lp_thebeatles.php
Copies were numbered, the same system used at all 12 pressing plants (so
there are 12 1s, 12 2s, etc). Also, due to dispute over banding (where the
space between songs is visable on the record disc), some copies are banded
and some aren't - even between copies pressed at the same plant.
Also From Bruce Spizer:
These are the Capitol mint-mark symbols and their corresponding plant
location:
/ \
/ I \ Scranton, PA
/ A M \
-------
\ | /
\ | /
---- ---- Los Angeles, CA
/ | \
/ | \
_____
/ \
| | Jacksonville, IL
| |
\______/
/|
___ / | Winchester, VA
\ |
\|Another:According to Daniels, "at least 600000 copies of the
U.K. pressing were numbered .
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> "marcus" <marc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 17, 9:07 am, Skokiaan <skoki...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 14, 11:39 am, amb <nob...@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > GIGWISE.comhttp://atu.ca/a136
> >
> > > One of the earliest and most sought-after numbered versions
> > > of the Beatles' 'White Album' has been put up for auction
> > > on eBayhttp://atu.ca/BeatlesWhite
> >
> > > The album - no. 0000005 - was given by John Lennon to a
Kat
true then how come the prefixes?
Tuesday, October 04, 2005
Beatles White Album
Detailed information on the Beatles White Album
White Album number variations;
no lead characters and no lead zeros
This variant is found only on very early records. I have seen several
numbered 100 and earlier which fit this description. In each case, the
records were manufactured in Los Angeles.
no lead characters but with lead zeros
This variant begins before number 1000 and is found on covers numbered less
than about 210,000 and with records manufactured in Los Angeles.
lead character of "A" followed by a blank space
Next, West Coast copies from about 210,000 up to just over 500,000 can be
found in this style. The "A" looks like it was added with a different
stamper. Apparently, the addition of an "A" made US releases more closely
follow most foreign releases of the LP.
lead character is a large dot
These can be found on covers numbered from about 500,000 to about 1,390,000
and with records pressed in either Jacksonville or Los Angeles.
lead character of "A" without any blank space
The "A" is printed in the same font as the number. Typically found on covers
numbered from about 1,390,000 to about 2,250,000 and with records pressed in
Scranton. These copies were available for purchase no later than January,
1969.
number prefixed by No
Notice that the "o" is elevated (superscripted). This is the same fashion as
records from England were numbered. This variation is commonly found on
covers numbering from about 2,250,000 to about 2,600,000 and with records
pressed in Jacksonville.
number prefixed by No.
The characters are also in a thinner font on this variant, which is commonly
found on higher numbered covers and with records pressed in Scranton.
Any copies with a catalogue number that starts with 1C062 is a re-issue from
1969 onwards
http://lp-covers.blogspot.com/2005/10/beatles-white-album.html
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Kat
http://www.norwegianwood.org/beatles/english/albumcovers11.html
So every LP got a unique stamped serial number. The numbers 000001 to 000020
were for the Beatles themselves and their friends. "We got the first four,"
Paul later recalled. "I don't know where mine is, of course. Everything got
lost. It's all coming up in Sothebys I imagine. John got 000001 because he
shouted the loudest. He said 'Baggy, number one!" He knew the game, you've
gotta bagsy it!"
George Martin got number 000007 and Derek Taylor 000009.
Each factory numbered differently: there are reportedly twelve copies of
number 000001.
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marcus
"The "A" is printed in the same font as the number. Typically found on
covers
numbered from about 1,390,000 to about 2,250,000 and with records
pressed in
Scranton. These copies were available for purchase no later than
January,
1969."
The above seems to be my situation.
The album cover has the letter "A" and number "1435721" printed in
black, without any space between the "A" and the number, all appear to
be in the same print style(font?), and are in a slant(with the "A"
tilted up) in the bottom right corner.
This makes sense logistically also. As I bought the album in
Connecticut, about a 2 to 2 1/2 hr ride from Scranton.
Just out of curiosity, do you know where one finds the mint marks? I
looked on the band around the label, but could not find it there.
Stephen X. Carter
My UK *Stereo* bought on the day of release in the UK has...
Top openings
No. 0048463
My UK *Mono* obtained many years later in the UK has...
Top openings
No. 0308611
And for the anal amongst us, at the 1984 Art of The Beatles exhibition in Liverpool the original
artwork for the poster/collage from the 'White Album' was on display.
amb
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amb <nob...@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
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> GIGWISE.com http://atu.ca/a136
>
> One of the earliest and most sought-after numbered versions
> of the Beatles' 'White Album' has been put up for auction
>
> The album – no. 0000005 – was given by John Lennon to a
> close friend before it entered the public domain...
Winning bid Ł19,201 ($28,448)
Gijs Rietveld
"amb" <nob...@pseudo.borked.net> schreef in bericht
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> GIGWISE.com http://atu.ca/a136
>
> One of the earliest and most sought-after numbered versions
> of the Beatles' 'White Album' has been put up for auction
> on eBay http://atu.ca/BeatlesWhite
>
> The album – no. 0000005 – was given by John Lennon to a
>
> Number's 1-4 of the album, which went 19 times platinum,
> were given to the four members of the Beatles.
>
> Originally self-titled, the album came to be known as the
> 'White Album' because of its minimalist artwork, which was
> created by pop artist Richard Hamilton,
>
> Julia Hutton-Potts, spokesperson for eBay in the UK,
> described the lot as “a unique piece of memorabilia for any
> Beatles fan.”...
What about the first CD copy of the White Album?
They are numbered too.
Mine is 74381
The only indication is on the backcover:
Printed in Holland by EMI Services Benelux B.V. Uden
So, is this number the only one within the Benelux, or are there same
numbers everywhere in the world from different CD manufacturers?
Gijs