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Ritchie

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Dec 6, 2009, 8:58:33 PM12/6/09
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I cant believe people are actually purchasing this junk:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/nyregion/07vinyl.html

kev...@gmail.com

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Dec 7, 2009, 10:23:20 AM12/7/09
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On Dec 6, 8:58 pm, Ritchie <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I cant believe people are actually purchasing this junk:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/nyregion/07vinyl.html

there is somethign to be said for vinyl. The tactile feel putting the
needle on the record. The warm sound that a slightly worn lp gives.
That said,... I was happy to see them go. I preferred them to tapes
only because you could quickly jump around, but tapes and lp were my
nemesis, between scratches on lp's and the inevitable "wearing" and
tapes getting jammed in my player or stretched out I was happy when
cd's came along. I actually don't even like cd's anymore. I have a
lot of them but I never listen to cd's, they are too bulky. I doubt
anyone will ever mourn the cd format when it is completely gone like
the Lp, but who knows. Maybe we will be talking a resurgence in CD
players and CD sales in 15 years, doubt it.


p t

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Dec 7, 2009, 5:10:21 PM12/7/09
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i just picked up the new Warbringer and Testament(The Gathering) on
vinyl. i don't own a TT(probably won't buy one either), i have access
to one. i will probably listen to these a few times and shelf them, i
just want to have them.

my first memories of music, was as a 6-7 year old listening to my folks
Stones/Beatles albums, so it means more to me.

audiophile

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Dec 7, 2009, 6:04:31 PM12/7/09
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Listen to Black Sabbath's debut on vinyl - there is no comparison.

e.
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"What is this, that stands before me?"

Ritchie

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Dec 7, 2009, 6:37:20 PM12/7/09
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On Dec 7, 5:10 pm, PrimeTime-...@webtv.net (p t) wrote:

I had many vinyls but I guess I am not as nostalgic as some.

Ritchie

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Dec 7, 2009, 6:38:19 PM12/7/09
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I did and I'll take the CD version without all the pops and pings.

p t

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Dec 7, 2009, 6:51:32 PM12/7/09
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i won't be buying alot of vinyl, a select few by my fav's. the
Warbringer i just had to have. i have said it a few times in here, i
think the new cd is amazing. the WB has everything i want in a thrash
album, catchy riffs, great solo's and some of the best metal vocals i
have EVER heard.

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Dec 7, 2009, 7:44:45 PM12/7/09
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My first memories of music. Let's just say my parents were big Elvis
fans.

Tom

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Dec 7, 2009, 7:46:21 PM12/7/09
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Some record company decided to press a vinyl album for Warbringer?
What was it, a limited edition thing?

Tom

I now have the Insomnium CD after about a 3 month wait.


tom.m...@gmail.com

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Dec 7, 2009, 7:47:17 PM12/7/09
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On Dec 6, 7:58 pm, Ritchie <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I cant believe people are actually purchasing this junk:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/nyregion/07vinyl.html

One man's Castle is another man's garbage dump.

Tom

p t

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Dec 7, 2009, 8:57:00 PM12/7/09
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i don't have the WB album in my possession yet. it is on CM(just like
the cd), i don't believe it is limited edition. the first WB album is
limited edition i believe, will probably grab that as well. the
Testament i picked up is.

Tom i know you look up sales sometimes, if you could plz let me know
what the WB has done.

Soze

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Dec 8, 2009, 4:59:04 PM12/8/09
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"Ritchie" <ritch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I cant believe people are actually purchasing this junk:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/nyregion/07vinyl.html

I know people that won`t buy anything else. If you spend enough money then
vinyl can sound great, personally I can`t afford an expensive set up and am
happy enough with listening to most music digitally.


Soze

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Dec 8, 2009, 4:59:35 PM12/8/09
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"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 7, 5:51 pm, PrimeTime-...@webtv.net (p t) wrote:

> i won't be buying alot of vinyl, a select few by my fav's. the
> Warbringer i just had to have. i have said it a few times in here, i
> think the new cd is amazing. the WB has everything i want in a thrash
> album, catchy riffs, great solo's and some of the best metal vocals i
> have EVER heard.

> Some record company decided to press a vinyl album for Warbringer?
>What was it, a limited edition thing?

Virtually everything is available on vinyl nowadays, although often as a
limited thing.


Ritchie

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Dec 8, 2009, 5:23:38 PM12/8/09
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On Dec 8, 4:59 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

I can afford and have an expensive audio video set up and I still say
CD trounces vinyl any day. But like everything else, to each his own.
Personally I think that people that purchase vinyl and say it sounds
better are delusional and are just nostalgic. I have no room for
nostalgia in my life.

Ritchie
___________________________

Never liked living in the past or rehashing old memories

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Dec 8, 2009, 7:14:31 PM12/8/09
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I don't remember seeing them listed anywhere. I can't imagine it
sold much. Only a few bands on CM move any significant numbers in the
US.

Tom

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Dec 8, 2009, 7:18:03 PM12/8/09
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On Dec 8, 4:23 pm, Ritchie <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I know people that won`t buy anything else. If you spend enough money then
> > vinyl can sound great, personally I can`t afford an expensive set up and am
> > happy enough with listening to most music digitally.
>
> I can afford and have an expensive audio video set up and I still say
> CD trounces vinyl any day. But like everything else, to each his own.
> Personally I think that people that purchase vinyl and say it sounds
> better are delusional and are just nostalgic. I have no room for
> nostalgia in my life.
>
> Ritchie
> ___________________________
>
> Never liked living in the past or rehashing old memories

Anytime I listen to music, there's usually something that brings
back memories. Depends on the band, of course.

Tom

Soze

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Dec 8, 2009, 7:21:54 PM12/8/09
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"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Waking Into Nightmares", the sophomore album from Los Angeles thrashers
WARBRINGER, sold around 2,000 copies in the United States in its first week
of release, according to Nielsen SoundScan. The CD landed at position No. 14
on the Top New Artist Albums (Heatseekers) chart, which lists the
best-selling albums by new and developing artists, defined as those who have
never appeared in the Top 100 of The Billboard 200.


tom.m...@gmail.com

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Dec 8, 2009, 7:39:24 PM12/8/09
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On Dec 8, 6:21 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> >  I don't remember seeing them listed anywhere. I can't imagine it
> >sold much. Only a few bands on CM move any significant numbers in the
> >US.
>
> "Waking Into Nightmares", the sophomore album from Los Angeles thrashers
> WARBRINGER, sold around 2,000 copies in the United States in its first week
> of release, according to Nielsen SoundScan. The CD landed at position No. 14
> on the Top New Artist Albums (Heatseekers) chart, which lists the
> best-selling albums by new and developing artists, defined as those who have
> never appeared in the Top 100 of The Billboard 200.

That's far more than I expected. I'd thought they'd be one of those
300 sold bands for some reason.


p t

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Dec 8, 2009, 7:59:47 PM12/8/09
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ty Soze, i was one of those 2,000 of course(ya i bet it was 2,000 on the
dot).

i have been enjoying a ton of old/new thrash stuff lately. the Mantic
Ritual has got a few spins recently(love it), will be in my top 20-25.

i wasn't 15-19 years old when MD, Metallica, Slayer etc. came out, so i
don't care if the new shit holds up to the classics. i love that thrash
has comeback, and hope it stays for at least a few more years.

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Dec 9, 2009, 7:07:45 PM12/9/09
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I also hope that it sticks around for a while.

By the way, played Killbox 13 and Relixiv, and enjoyed them a lot. I
guess a break was in order.

Tom

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Dec 12, 2009, 8:15:36 AM12/12/09
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On Dec 6, 7:58 pm, Ritchie <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I cant believe people are actually purchasing this junk:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/nyregion/07vinyl.html

I just saw where Venom's early albums are being re-issued on vinyl.
I also can't believe people would buy vinyl. Not en-mass anyway.

Tom

Soze

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Dec 12, 2009, 4:58:23 PM12/12/09
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"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Venom have re-released more albums and compilations than any band I know!!!


p t

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Dec 12, 2009, 5:11:36 PM12/12/09
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even vinyl can't make Venom sound good :) i have one cd and it's ok.
Cronus(or however you spell it) is a assclown. i heard him on Sat.
radio awhile back, and he was talking a bunch of shit. he ran his mouth
about Dark Tranquillity, making fun of their style/tempo changes etc. at
least DT can play their instruments Douche!!! :)

been enjoying some Dark Angel, Katatonia and Borknagar the past few
days.

Soze

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Dec 12, 2009, 5:21:18 PM12/12/09
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"p t" <PrimeT...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Cronos is a god! His buffonery is what makes him so great, I remember loads
of funny interviews with Venom back in the day. Still think the first 3
albums are stone cold classics.


kev...@gmail.com

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Dec 12, 2009, 8:17:40 PM12/12/09
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On Dec 12, 5:21 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> "p t" <PrimeTime-...@webtv.net> wrote in message

yea really, but I can see how people nowadays might not get his
persona or get the significance of his music. The truth is while
Venom spawned a lot of what became thrash, coined the term and spirit
of black metal and were legends of NWOBHM in their own right. The old
stuff doesn't hold up well especially since you go into it expecting
somethign different. About your last post: Venom were re releasing
things like crazy even back in the day. For the longest time they
were the biggest act on a non major label and that is why.

kev...@gmail.com

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Dec 12, 2009, 8:19:41 PM12/12/09
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I meant to say the old stuff doesnt hold up well for new listeners. I
still ike the raw sound of their first 4 albums (everything after
Possessed is pretty much another band, the new stuff is not even
Venom, give me Abigail or something like that to fill that void with
new music).

audiophile

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Dec 12, 2009, 10:39:09 PM12/12/09
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I never really got into Venom, and have absolutely no idea why.

It really should be right up my alley (the classic albums, that is,
not the new garbage).

e.
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it's a mystery...

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:08:53 PM12/13/09
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Even with that, I still enjoy some of their music. In fact I've yet
to hear any that I don't at least like some.

Tom

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:09:17 PM12/13/09
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On Dec 12, 3:58 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> >http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/nyregion/07vinyl.html
> >  I just saw where Venom's early albums are being re-issued on vinyl.
> >I also can't believe people would buy vinyl. Not en-mass anyway.
>
> Venom have re-released more albums and compilations than any band I know!!!

There's probably a reason.

Tom

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:11:13 PM12/13/09
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On Dec 12, 4:21 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> "p t" <PrimeTime-...@webtv.net> wrote in message

His buffonery also comes out in the music/lyrics. I know I laugh out
loud when I hear certain songs, lyrics, yells or even odd time changes
and such in the music.

Tom

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