CD list.
tom...@juno.com
here, if anyone might want to comment on the bands.
>> Ian's comments.
> My comments after hearing a bit of it.
>On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:50:05 -0000, "Ian Salsbury"
><I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I`m pretty sure it`s been re-issued at least once since then...*without* the
>>bonus tracks but with some sort of "making of" DVD.
>>
>>Anyhow...today`s playlist
>>
>>Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor - I like this. Not sure if I`ve mentioned
>>so before.
>
> Had no idea you liked it. :)
>
>>Cavalera Conspiracy - Inlifkted - thought this was fairly decent although my
>>expectations were low. Certainly better than Soulfly...although if it hadn`t
>>been I doubt I`d have made it to the end!
>>
>>Arsis - We are the Nightmare - aha...now this is the sort of death metal I
>>can still get off on! Top drawer stuff.
>
> Ok, loaded their myspace page...Not the biggest DM fan. Before the
>vocals it didn't sound bad. I don't mind this style DM vocals.
>Somewhat legible.
> Don't think I'd buy the album, as I said, just not a big DM fan.
>
>>Lair of the Minotaur - War Battle Metal Master - I vaguely remember hearing
>>this band before and being ambivalent. However I really enjoyed blasting
>>this out whilst driving about today and can see it getting plenty more
>>spins, may have to dig into the vaults for some older releases.
>
> Loaded this up. Again, before the vocals it doesn't sound bad. This
>type of vocals makes me laugh.
> Might buy on a lark, if I see it.
>
>>The Sword - Gods of the Earth - couldn`t get into this. It`s not offensive
>>or anything just doesn`t push my buttons at all.
>
> Heard one song. Agree on all points.
>
>>Metalium - Millenium Metal - cheesy power metal, thought I`d give an older
>>album a try after finding the latest release palatable. I have fuzzy
>>memories of seeing them at Wacken many moons ago. Anyhow, this is OK but got
>>bored with it 2/3rds of the way through and will probably never play it
>>again. Mostly harmless.
>
> Remember this from the last list you posted a week or two ago. The
>Resurrection song, although as I said then, there's a few other
>resurrection songs I have heard before I like much more. Harmless, as
>you say.
>
>>Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie - this is great. Not as great as the classic
>>Goatreich from a few years back but still very much of greatness. And it`s
>>one of my favourite album titles ever!
>
> Loaded this...Not really my cup of tea.
>
>>WASP - The Headless Children - was never a big fan of WASP other than the
>>debut...hadn`t actually heard this before but it was pleasant enough.
>
> Looking over my CD shelf, have it.
>
>>Dark Fortress - Seance - downloaded this `06 release and their new one last
>>night. Melodic black metal...not the symphonic pomp of Dimmu and Cradle nor
>>the boring blast beat battering ram of so many recent BM releases...an
>>enjoyable if un-remarkable affair.
>
> What I am hearing doesn't seem so bad.
>
>>Stormwarrior - Stormwarrior - another slice of cheese as you can never have
>>too much.
>
> I don't know. Listening to this is painful.
>
>>Death Angel - Killing Season - still little to say about this in AMS? I`m
>>loving it to bits.
>
> Been meaning to buy, just haven't had the money on me when I went to
>the record store.
>
>Tom
>
Bomber
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message
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>I don't think Ian will mind me lifting this from AMS, and posting it
> here, if anyone might want to comment on the bands.
>>>
>>>Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor - I like this. Not sure if I`ve
>>>mentioned
>>>so before.
>>
I'll buy this one day.
>> Had no idea you liked it. :)
>>
>>>Cavalera Conspiracy - Inlifkted - thought this was fairly decent although
>>>my
>>>expectations were low. Certainly better than Soulfly...although if it
>>>hadn`t
>>>been I doubt I`d have made it to the end!
>>>
>>>Arsis - We are the Nightmare - aha...now this is the sort of death metal
>>>I
>>>can still get off on! Top drawer stuff.
>>
>> Ok, loaded their myspace page...Not the biggest DM fan. Before the
>>vocals it didn't sound bad. I don't mind this style DM vocals.
>>Somewhat legible.
>> Don't think I'd buy the album, as I said, just not a big DM fan.
>>
>>>Lair of the Minotaur - War Battle Metal Master - I vaguely remember
>>>hearing
>>>this band before and being ambivalent. However I really enjoyed blasting
>>>this out whilst driving about today and can see it getting plenty more
>>>spins, may have to dig into the vaults for some older releases.
I d/l this and it was in one ear, out the other.
>>
>> Loaded this up. Again, before the vocals it doesn't sound bad. This
>>type of vocals makes me laugh.
>> Might buy on a lark, if I see it.
>>
>>>The Sword - Gods of the Earth - couldn`t get into this. It`s not
>>>offensive
>>>or anything just doesn`t push my buttons at all.
I thought the first one was shit so I'll pass on this. I prefer the Canadian
Metal band Sword
http://www.myspace.com/canadianswordmetal
>>
>> Heard one song. Agree on all points.
>>
>>>Metalium - Millenium Metal - cheesy power metal, thought I`d give an
>>>older
>>>album a try after finding the latest release palatable. I have fuzzy
>>>memories of seeing them at Wacken many moons ago. Anyhow, this is OK but
>>>got
>>>bored with it 2/3rds of the way through and will probably never play it
>>>again. Mostly harmless.
>>
>> Remember this from the last list you posted a week or two ago. The
>>Resurrection song, although as I said then, there's a few other
>>resurrection songs I have heard before I like much more. Harmless, as
>>you say.
>>
>>>Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie - this is great. Not as great as the
>>>classic
>>>Goatreich from a few years back but still very much of greatness. And
>>>it`s
>>>one of my favourite album titles ever!
Title alone has sold me. Impaled Nazarene have a song with 'goat' in the
title on most of their albums.
>>
>> Loaded this...Not really my cup of tea.
>>
>>>WASP - The Headless Children - was never a big fan of WASP other than the
>>>debut...hadn`t actually heard this before but it was pleasant enough.
One of the three I like. Blackie dropped the party stuff and went political.
>>
>> Looking over my CD shelf, have it.
>>
>>>Dark Fortress - Seance - downloaded this `06 release and their new one
>>>last
>>>night. Melodic black metal...not the symphonic pomp of Dimmu and Cradle
>>>nor
>>>the boring blast beat battering ram of so many recent BM releases...an
>>>enjoyable if un-remarkable affair.
>>
>> What I am hearing doesn't seem so bad.
>>
>>>Stormwarrior - Stormwarrior - another slice of cheese as you can never
>>>have
>>>too much.
Metal. We are Metal. We fight for Metal. Metal rules. Good stuff.
tom...@juno.com
>>I don't think Ian will mind me lifting this from AMS, and posting it
>> here, if anyone might want to comment on the bands.
>
>>>>
>>>>Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor - I like this. Not sure if I`ve
>>>>mentioned
>>>>so before.
>
>I'll buy this one day.
The new album probably will be out first.
>>>>Lair of the Minotaur - War Battle Metal Master - I vaguely remember
>>>>hearing
>>>>this band before and being ambivalent. However I really enjoyed blasting
>>>>this out whilst driving about today and can see it getting plenty more
>>>>spins, may have to dig into the vaults for some older releases.
>
>I d/l this and it was in one ear, out the other.
Can't please everyone.
>>>>The Sword - Gods of the Earth - couldn`t get into this. It`s not
>>>>offensive
>>>>or anything just doesn`t push my buttons at all.
>
>I thought the first one was shit so I'll pass on this. I prefer the Canadian
>Metal band Sword
>
>http://www.myspace.com/canadianswordmetal
CANADIAN METAL!.
>>>>Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie - this is great. Not as great as the
>>>>classic
>>>>Goatreich from a few years back but still very much of greatness. And
>>>>it`s
>>>>one of my favourite album titles ever!
>
>Title alone has sold me. Impaled Nazarene have a song with 'goat' in the
>title on most of their albums.
So, if they have "goat" in the title, you buy?
>>> Loaded this...Not really my cup of tea.
>>>
>>>>WASP - The Headless Children - was never a big fan of WASP other than the
>>>>debut...hadn`t actually heard this before but it was pleasant enough.
>One of the three I like. Blackie dropped the party stuff and went political.
I haven't heard it in a long time.
>>>>Stormwarrior - Stormwarrior - another slice of cheese as you can never
>>>>have
>>>>too much.
>Metal. We are Metal. We fight for Metal. Metal rules. Good stuff.
So you like this, and I think it's painful to listen to?
>>>>Death Angel - Killing Season - still little to say about this in AMS? I`m
>>>>loving it to bits.
>>>
>>> Been meaning to buy, just haven't had the money on me when I went to
>>>the record store.
And you don't like Death Angel.
Tom
Bomber
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:31:45 GMT, "Bomber" <bom...@bomber.bomb> wrote:
>
>>>I don't think Ian will mind me lifting this from AMS, and posting it
>>> here, if anyone might want to comment on the bands.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor - I like this. Not sure if I`ve
>>>>>mentioned
>>>>>so before.
>>
>>I'll buy this one day.
>
> The new album probably will be out first.
Probably. It's not high on the list.
>
>>>>>Lair of the Minotaur - War Battle Metal Master - I vaguely remember
>>>>>hearing
>>>>>this band before and being ambivalent. However I really enjoyed
>>>>>blasting
>>>>>this out whilst driving about today and can see it getting plenty more
>>>>>spins, may have to dig into the vaults for some older releases.
>>
>>I d/l this and it was in one ear, out the other.
>
> Can't please everyone.
>
>>>>>The Sword - Gods of the Earth - couldn`t get into this. It`s not
>>>>>offensive
>>>>>or anything just doesn`t push my buttons at all.
>>
>>I thought the first one was shit so I'll pass on this. I prefer the
>>Canadian
>>Metal band Sword
>>
>>http://www.myspace.com/canadianswordmetal
>
> CANADIAN METAL!.
You know it. And very good Metal at that.
>
>>>>>Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie - this is great. Not as great as the
>>>>>classic
>>>>>Goatreich from a few years back but still very much of greatness. And
>>>>>it`s
>>>>>one of my favourite album titles ever!
>>
>>Title alone has sold me. Impaled Nazarene have a song with 'goat' in the
>>title on most of their albums.
>
> So, if they have "goat" in the title, you buy?
It helps.
>
>>>> Loaded this...Not really my cup of tea.
>>>>
>>>>>WASP - The Headless Children - was never a big fan of WASP other than
>>>>>the
>>>>>debut...hadn`t actually heard this before but it was pleasant enough.
>
>>One of the three I like. Blackie dropped the party stuff and went
>>political.
>
> I haven't heard it in a long time.
>
>>>>>Stormwarrior - Stormwarrior - another slice of cheese as you can never
>>>>>have
>>>>>too much.
>
>>Metal. We are Metal. We fight for Metal. Metal rules. Good stuff.
>
> So you like this, and I think it's painful to listen to?
Are you surprised?
>
>>>>>Death Angel - Killing Season - still little to say about this in AMS?
>>>>>I`m
>>>>>loving it to bits.
>>>>
>>>> Been meaning to buy, just haven't had the money on me when I went to
>>>>the record store.
>
> And you don't like Death Angel.
Ultra-violence. Actually, I'd much rather listen to Violence. ETERNAL
NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!
>
> Tom
>
Bomber
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My playlist :
JudasPriest - Demolition ( we were talking about / bashing it, so I put it
on)
Invocator - Through The Flesh To The Soul
Hades Almighty - Again Shall Be (one of my favorite Black Metal albums)
Weakling - Dead As Dreams
Mortification - Hammer Of God
Murder Corporation - Tagged And Bagged
Jorn - The Duke
Savatage - The Dungeons Are Calling
Onslaught - Killing Peace
Graveland - Fire Chariot Of Destruction
Unleashed - Midvinterblot
Motorhead - Kiss Of Death
Arctic Circle - Forcing The Astral
Bathory - Twilight Of The Gods
Currently 'spinning': Asphyx - The Rack ( and eating Doritos!)
I'll fill in the replies myself:
Ritchie - "98% yuck!"
Tom- "98% never heard of"
Ian-"98% of these are the bands worst albums"
Audiophile- "98% generic crap"
Servo-"DEMOLITION!!!!!!!"
Wouldn't have it any other way!
audiophile
> My playlist :
>
> JudasPriest - Demolition ( we were talking about / bashing it, so I put it
> on)
> Invocator - Through The Flesh To The Soul
> Hades Almighty - Again Shall Be (one of my favorite Black Metal albums)
> Weakling - Dead As Dreams
> Mortification - Hammer Of God
> Murder Corporation - Tagged And Bagged
> Jorn - The Duke
> Savatage - The Dungeons Are Calling
> Onslaught - Killing Peace
> Graveland - Fire Chariot Of Destruction
> Unleashed - Midvinterblot
> Motorhead - Kiss Of Death
> Arctic Circle - Forcing The Astral
> Bathory - Twilight Of The Gods
>
> Currently 'spinning': Asphyx - The Rack ( and eating Doritos!)
>
> I'll fill in the replies myself:
>
> Ritchie - "98% yuck!"
> Tom- "98% never heard of"
> Ian-"98% of these are the bands worst albums"
> Audiophile- "98% generic crap"
> Servo-"DEMOLITION!!!!!!!"
Three albums in here I haven't heard yet. One of the better lists in
this 'froup, I'd say :)
e.
--
JUG-U-LATORRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
tom...@juno.com
>>>>>>Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor - I like this. Not sure if I`ve
>>>>>>mentioned
>>>>>>so before.
>>>
>>>I'll buy this one day.
>>
>> The new album probably will be out first.
>
>Probably. It's not high on the list.
Ian would not be pleased to hear that. He probably thinks everyone
in the world should own the CD.
It would be a better world, but still.
>>>I thought the first one was shit so I'll pass on this. I prefer the
>>>Canadian
>>>Metal band Sword
>>>
>>>http://www.myspace.com/canadianswordmetal
>>
>> CANADIAN METAL!.
>
>You know it. And very good Metal at that.
Anytime I see Canadian and Metal I reference Darkthrone. Ok, I
haven't actually listened to what you listed. I'll make a point of
hearing it, though.
>>>Title alone has sold me. Impaled Nazarene have a song with 'goat' in the
>>>title on most of their albums.
>>
>> So, if they have "goat" in the title, you buy?
>
>It helps.
Oh, it still has to have music you actually like? Man you're so hard
to please.
>>>>>>Stormwarrior - Stormwarrior - another slice of cheese as you can never
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>too much.
>>
>>>Metal. We are Metal. We fight for Metal. Metal rules. Good stuff.
>>
>> So you like this, and I think it's painful to listen to?
>
>Are you surprised?
Oh, no, YOU like it.
>>>>>>Death Angel - Killing Season - still little to say about this in AMS?
>>>>>>I`m
>>>>>>loving it to bits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Been meaning to buy, just haven't had the money on me when I went to
>>>>>the record store.
>>
>> And you don't like Death Angel.
>
>Ultra-violence. Actually, I'd much rather listen to Violence. ETERNAL
>NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!
That guy's voice is hard to take.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
>My playlist :
>
>JudasPriest - Demolition ( we were talking about / bashing it, so I put it
>on)
So many other Judas Priest albums to waste time with this dreadful
thing. Man, you could have listened to Ram It Down almost twice in the
same time.
>Invocator - Through The Flesh To The Soul
>Hades Almighty - Again Shall Be (one of my favorite Black Metal albums)
>Weakling - Dead As Dreams
>Mortification - Hammer Of God
>Murder Corporation - Tagged And Bagged
>Jorn - The Duke
Jorn, singer from Masterplan's first couple albums? I'll pass.
Unless I am mistaking something.
>Savatage - The Dungeons Are Calling
I like at least some songs off of all Savatage albums I've heard,
which is most of them.
>Onslaught - Killing Peace
>Graveland - Fire Chariot Of Destruction
>Unleashed - Midvinterblot
>Motorhead - Kiss Of Death
Don't really like Motorhead beyond Ace of Spaces and Iron Horse.
That's about all I like.
>Arctic Circle - Forcing The Astral
>Bathory - Twilight Of The Gods
>Currently 'spinning': Asphyx - The Rack ( and eating Doritos!)
Heard a song.
>I'll fill in the replies myself:
>
>Ritchie - "98% yuck!"
>Tom- "98% never heard of"
>Ian-"98% of these are the bands worst albums"
>Audiophile- "98% generic crap"
>Servo-"DEMOLITION!!!!!!!"
>
>Wouldn't have it any other way!
The artic circle album, do they have a very harsh, cold sound? They
better..I'll put that on the list with Canadian Sword to hear
tomorrow.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
How do you find time to listen to so many albums? I have a hard
enough time getting through 6 or 8 a day.
Ok, I have to know, what 3?
Bomber
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:54:23 GMT, "Bomber" <bom...@bomber.bomb> wrote:
>
>>My playlist :
>>
>>JudasPriest - Demolition ( we were talking about / bashing it, so I put it
>>on)
>
> So many other Judas Priest albums to waste time with this dreadful
> thing. Man, you could have listened to Ram It Down almost twice in the
> same time.
>
>>Invocator - Through The Flesh To The Soul
>>Hades Almighty - Again Shall Be (one of my favorite Black Metal albums)
>>Weakling - Dead As Dreams
>>Mortification - Hammer Of God
>>Murder Corporation - Tagged And Bagged
>>Jorn - The Duke
>
> Jorn, singer from Masterplan's first couple albums? I'll pass.
> Unless I am mistaking something.
That's him.
>
>>Savatage - The Dungeons Are Calling
>
> I like at least some songs off of all Savatage albums I've heard,
> which is most of them.
>
>>Onslaught - Killing Peace
>>Graveland - Fire Chariot Of Destruction
>>Unleashed - Midvinterblot
>>Motorhead - Kiss Of Death
>
> Don't really like Motorhead beyond Ace of Spaces and Iron Horse.
> That's about all I like.
Don't talk to me anymore. Motorhead rule.
>
>>Arctic Circle - Forcing The Astral
>>Bathory - Twilight Of The Gods
>
>>Currently 'spinning': Asphyx - The Rack ( and eating Doritos!)
>
> Heard a song.
>
>>I'll fill in the replies myself:
>>
>>Ritchie - "98% yuck!"
>>Tom- "98% never heard of"
>>Ian-"98% of these are the bands worst albums"
>>Audiophile- "98% generic crap"
>>Servo-"DEMOLITION!!!!!!!"
>>
>>Wouldn't have it any other way!
>
> The artic circle album, do they have a very harsh, cold sound? They
> better..I'll put that on the list with Canadian Sword to hear
> tomorrow.
>
> Tom
>
They're from my province. Got it used for $6. I don't think they exist
anymore.
Bomber
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Incorrect response!
> e.
> --
> JUG-U-LATORRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
Bomber
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message
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These are highlights from the last week or so. I get through about 6 a day
at work.
audiophile
> How do you find time to listen to so many albums? I have a hard
> enough time getting through 6 or 8 a day.
> Ok, I have to know, what 3?
Well, I don't play the same handful of records every day for a month,
so that helps :)
And to play along with the usenet preconception, I only listen to 5
seconds of a new song anyway off each album. If it contains any
instrument or musical note I've heard before, it's instantly
discarded.
Hadn't heard invocation, weakling or arctic circle. Although I did
check out weakling ... meh ;)
e.
--
"know your role, and shut your hole!"
Ian Salsbury
> JudasPriest - Demolition ( we were talking about / bashing it, so I put it
> on)
> Invocator - Through The Flesh To The Soul
> Hades Almighty - Again Shall Be (one of my favorite Black Metal albums)
> Weakling - Dead As Dreams
> Mortification - Hammer Of God
> Murder Corporation - Tagged And Bagged
> Jorn - The Duke
> Savatage - The Dungeons Are Calling
> Onslaught - Killing Peace
> Graveland - Fire Chariot Of Destruction
> Unleashed - Midvinterblot
> Motorhead - Kiss Of Death
> Arctic Circle - Forcing The Astral
> Bathory - Twilight Of The Gods
>
>
> Currently 'spinning': Asphyx - The Rack ( and eating Doritos!)
>
>
> I'll fill in the replies myself:
>
> Ritchie - "98% yuck!"
> Tom- "98% never heard of"
> Ian-"98% of these are the bands worst albums"
> Audiophile- "98% generic crap"
> Servo-"DEMOLITION!!!!!!!"
Well...
I`ve never heard Invocator, Hades Almighty, Weakling, Murder Corporation,
Jorn or Arctic Circle.
Demo is better than Turbom PoE, RiD or RR!
I don`t like Mortification or Savatage.
Killing Peace is way better than the 3rd Onslaught album ( can`t even
remember it`s name! ) but certainly not as good as The Force.
I`ve heard Graveland but don`t especially know one album from another.
Midvinterblot rules!
Kiss of Death - I`m not a huge Motorhead fan but I quite liked this.
Twilight of the Gods is OK...my love of Bathory largely centres around
Hammerheart and Blood, Fire, Death.
tom...@juno.com
>>>Jorn - The Duke
>>
>> Jorn, singer from Masterplan's first couple albums? I'll pass.
>> Unless I am mistaking something.
>That's him.
You can then understand why I have no interest.
>>>Motorhead - Kiss Of Death
>>
>> Don't really like Motorhead beyond Ace of Spaces and Iron Horse.
>> That's about all I like.
>
>Don't talk to me anymore. Motorhead rule.
It's not like I hate them. I'd gladly see them in concert if they
ever played around here. I just don't think I'd listen to the studio
albums much.
>>>Arctic Circle - Forcing The Astral
>>>Wouldn't have it any other way!
>>
>> The artic circle album, do they have a very harsh, cold sound? They
>> better..I'll put that on the list with Canadian Sword to hear
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> Tom
>
>They're from my province. Got it used for $6. I don't think they exist
>anymore.
Do they have a myspace page?
By the way, I don't greatly like the Canadian Sword band, but I'd
rather hear it than the other Sword band.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
>>>Three albums in here I haven't heard yet. One of the better lists in
>>>this 'froup, I'd say :)
>>>
>>>e.
>>>--
>>>JUG-U-LATORRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> How do you find time to listen to so many albums? I have a hard
>> enough time getting through 6 or 8 a day.
>> Ok, I have to know, what 3?
>These are highlights from the last week or so. I get through about 6 a day
>at work.
It was more directed to e., but 5-6-7-8, depending on how many 70
minute CD's I take for a day's listen.
It does not appear Arctic Circle has a my space page. Oh well, you
say they're long disbanded.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> How do you find time to listen to so many albums? I have a hard
>> enough time getting through 6 or 8 a day.
>> Ok, I have to know, what 3?
>
>Well, I don't play the same handful of records every day for a month,
>so that helps :)
I play stuff until something pushes it aside. Some things last a
week, some a few months, and every so often, years. (projector being a
quick example.)
>And to play along with the usenet preconception, I only listen to 5
>seconds of a new song anyway off each album. If it contains any
>instrument or musical note I've heard before, it's instantly
>discarded.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
>Hadn't heard invocation, weakling or arctic circle. Although I did
>check out weakling ... meh ;)
>
>e.
>--
>"know your role, and shut your hole!"
The day's playlist?
Blue Oyster Cult-Club Ninja
Agua De Annique-Air
Hammerfall-Legacy of Kings (I think that's the title.)
Vast-April
Porcupine Tree-We Lost the Skyline (maybe you would like this)
Beseech-Drama
Dead Soul Tribe-The Dead Word.
No DM growling all day.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>I`ve never heard Invocator, Hades Almighty, Weakling, Murder Corporation,
>Jorn or Arctic Circle.
>
>Demo is better than Turbom PoE, RiD or RR!
I don't think it is. Or put it this way, there is at least one song
on Turbo, PoE, RiD and RR that I'd rather hear than any one song on
Demo.
>I don`t like Mortification or Savatage.
Why not Savatage?
>Killing Peace is way better than the 3rd Onslaught album ( can`t even
>remember it`s name! ) but certainly not as good as The Force.
>I`ve heard Graveland but don`t especially know one album from another.
>Midvinterblot rules!
>Kiss of Death - I`m not a huge Motorhead fan but I quite liked this.
>Twilight of the Gods is OK...my love of Bathory largely centres around
>Hammerheart and Blood, Fire, Death.
Nothing to say about the rest of this.
Tom
Ritchie
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:23:50 -0000, "Ian Salsbury"
> <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I`ve never heard Invocator, Hades Almighty, Weakling, Murder Corporation,
>>Jorn or Arctic Circle.
>>
>>Demo is better than Turbom PoE, RiD or RR!
>
> I don't think it is. Or put it this way, there is at least one song
> on Turbo, PoE, RiD and RR that I'd rather hear than any one song on
> Demo.
I would say Demolition is (IMO) definitely overall better than Turbo and RR
but I like POE and RID better than Demolition.
tom...@juno.com
wrote:
>>>I`ve never heard Invocator, Hades Almighty, Weakling, Murder Corporation,
>>>Jorn or Arctic Circle.
>>>
>>>Demo is better than Turbom PoE, RiD or RR!
>>
>> I don't think it is. Or put it this way, there is at least one song
>> on Turbo, PoE, RiD and RR that I'd rather hear than any one song on
>> Demo.
>
>I would say Demolition is (IMO) definitely overall better than Turbo and RR
>but I like POE and RID better than Demolition.
I dislike all but maybe 4 songs off Demo, so it's a wipe for me.
Tom
audiophile
> >Well, I don't play the same handful of records every day for a month,
> >so that helps :)
>
> I play stuff until something pushes it aside. Some things last a
> week, some a few months, and every so often, years. (projector being a
> quick example.)
Too much good stuff to listen to the same record every day. I mean,
there are stretches where I play the same album over and over in the
space of a few days, but even then a breather is in order.
This is likely why I don't burn out on music like you do ;)
> Blue Oyster Cult-Club Ninja
I really like this. Been awhile, though.
> Porcupine Tree-We Lost the Skyline (maybe you would like this)
Even though "planet" was a disappointment, I'm still willing to give
anything PT a try for now.
> Beseech-Drama
Don't particularly care for this band, but their cover of ABBA's
"gimme gimme gimme" is an absolute blast.
e.
--
obviously the original blows it away, but still vastly entertaining
kev...@gmail.com
> <tom_...@juno.com> wrote in message
I have to agree with Ritchie, Demo is technically better than Turbo/RR
but no song on Demolition is better than the best on those albums and
none of the three are albums I go crazy for. I think a better case
can be made for Jugulator, which IMO is a better overall album.
Ian Salsbury
>>I don`t like Mortification or Savatage.
>
> Why not Savatage?
Just always found them dull. "Dislike" is perhaps too strong, ambivalence is
a more worthy description.
Ian Salsbury
Dark Tranquility - Damage Done
Korpiklaani - Spirits of the Forest
Megadeth - Rust in Peace
Death Angel - Killing Season
Finntroll - Ur Jordens Djup
Nevermore - Dead Heart in a Dead World
Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
and whilst I`m about it, yesterday...
Exodus - The Atrocity Exhibition
Children of Bodom - Bloodrunk
Lair of the Minotaur - War Battle Metal Master
In Flames - Clayman
Dark Tranquility - Projector
audiophile
wrote:
I find Hall of the Mountain King a billion times better than anything
Helloween has done :)
e.
--
push comes to shove
Ian Salsbury
No accounting for taste! I have nostalgic memories of the actual song...my
local rock club always used to kick off the night with it...but when I got
round to hearing the album I was hugely underwhelmed!
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Too much good stuff to listen to the same record every day. I mean,
>there are stretches where I play the same album over and over in the
>space of a few days, but even then a breather is in order.
>
>This is likely why I don't burn out on music like you do ;)
Could be. In any event, today I took an entirely different set of
CD's than yesterday.
>> Blue Oyster Cult-Club Ninja
>
>I really like this. Been awhile, though.
It's been re-issued. No bonus stuff, though.
Talking of them, Someone wanted to hear the album with "Take Me
Away" on it, so I took it. The Revolution By Night. Only a BoC fanboi
would say "I really like this" to that album. Now, don't get me wrong,
I like the song Take Me Away a lot, and a couple others or so, but
it's not easy to get through.
Now the album that followed CN, Imaginos, I quite like it.
>> Porcupine Tree-We Lost the Skyline (maybe you would like this)
>
>Even though "planet" was a disappointment, I'm still willing to give
>anything PT a try for now.
This is a recorded live with voice and guitar sort of thing. 8
songs, cheap price, but only in independent record shops from what I
understand. Disappointment isn't a strong enough word for blank
planet, though.
I like this new ep thing a good deal.
>> Beseech-Drama
>
>Don't particularly care for this band, but their cover of ABBA's
>"gimme gimme gimme" is an absolute blast.
Yeah, I like that as well. I have no problems with the band,
otherwise, than that they disbanded. I'd like another album or two.
>e.
>--
>obviously the original blows it away, but still vastly entertaining
You'll like this. I have heard some ABBA songs, but I don't remember
hearing that one.
Tom
True to form.
tom...@juno.com
Maybe you give Gutter Ballet another spin sometime.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >>I don`t like Mortification or Savatage.
>>>
>>> > Why not Savatage?
>>>
>>> Just always found them dull. "Dislike" is perhaps too strong, ambivalence
>>> is
>>> a more worthy description.
>>
>> I find Hall of the Mountain King a billion times better than anything
>> Helloween has done :)
>
>No accounting for taste! I have nostalgic memories of the actual song...my
>local rock club always used to kick off the night with it...but when I got
>round to hearing the album I was hugely underwhelmed!
As I said, if you can find Gutter Ballet, give it another shot.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Today I played
>
>Dark Tranquility - Damage Done
>Korpiklaani - Spirits of the Forest
>Megadeth - Rust in Peace
good, especially at each end.
>Death Angel - Killing Season
need to get.
>Finntroll - Ur Jordens Djup
>Nevermore - Dead Heart in a Dead World
Like some of it, but never really got into the full album.
>Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
>and whilst I`m about it, yesterday...
>
>Exodus - The Atrocity Exhibition
This has been lost in the shuffle I guess. Musicwise, it kills, but
I don't find the songs very catchy.
>Children of Bodom - Bloodrunk
>Lair of the Minotaur - War Battle Metal Master
>In Flames - Clayman
Heard once, liked more than any other In Flames I've heard.
>Dark Tranquility - Projector
Had this at work at least once a week for years.
>Death Angel - Killing Season
Again, need to get.
I did take Opeth-Damnation to work today.
The before mentioned BoC-Revolution by Night.
A different Beseech album. Sunless Days.
I wanted to laugh, a lot, so I took a Lords of Acid CD to listen to. I
know, bomber would hate them, and probably most here would also hate
them, but I find it to be very comical.
Epica-Divine Conspiracy
Android Lust-Stripped and Stiched.
Borknagar-Origin
Thinking it over, if Bomber had to sit through most of this, he'd
probably jump out of a window.
Most of what I listened to today probably is of zero interest to
most here, but I don't care.
Tom
Bomber
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message
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The second and third Borknagar cds are excellent. But ya, I wouldn't listen
to any of that. On my Ipod today:
Katatonia
Maiden (just bought tickets for the June show today!)
Iron Savior
Rainbow
Metal Church
Bomber
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I'd put Gutter Ballet after HotMK, Power Of The Night,Dungeons,and Sirens.
Excellent album though.
audiophile
> You'll like this. I have heard some ABBA songs, but I don't remember
> hearing that one.
>
> Tom
>
> True to form.
LOL, you haven't heard "gimme?" Were you dead during the entire late
70's through mid-80's? :)
e.
--
ABBA is not nearly as gay as power metal
audiophile
> >Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>
> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
You have officially blown my mind. LOL.
For Ian, and others that actually listened to metal at some point
during the 80's:
I find Shadows a really underrated album. Yeah, Egypt was really
cheesy, and it's nowhere near as good as Oath, but in the grand scheme
of metal, it's a fantastic group of songs by one of the best bands in
the genre.
The Old Oak = most underrated epic from the decade, IMO.
e.
--
gonna go spin it again
audiophile
> > As I said, if you can find Gutter Ballet, give it another shot.
>
> > Tom
>
> I'd put Gutter Ballet after HotMK, Power Of The Night,Dungeons,and Sirens.
> Excellent album though.
I like it more than POTN, but otherwise I agree.
HOTMK is a cast-iron classic.
e.
--
RIP criss olivia
Ian Salsbury
>>Finntroll - Ur Jordens Djup
>>Nevermore - Dead Heart in a Dead World
>
> Like some of it, but never really got into the full album.
It`s the greatest metal album of the last 10 years and you never "got into
the full album"?! *shakes head in disbelief*
>>Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>
> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
Man, this album was about 15 years ago!!
>>and whilst I`m about it, yesterday...
>>
>>Exodus - The Atrocity Exhibition
>
> This has been lost in the shuffle I guess. Musicwise, it kills, but
> I don't find the songs very catchy.
I`d tend to agree...first time I played it in a while.
>>Children of Bodom - Bloodrunk
>>Lair of the Minotaur - War Battle Metal Master
>>In Flames - Clayman
>
> Heard once, liked more than any other In Flames I've heard.
I love the album...the new CoB is far better than their last couple as well.
> I did take Opeth-Damnation to work today.
> The before mentioned BoC-Revolution by Night.
> A different Beseech album. Sunless Days.
> I wanted to laugh, a lot, so I took a Lords of Acid CD to listen to. I
> know, bomber would hate them, and probably most here would also hate
> them, but I find it to be very comical.
> Epica-Divine Conspiracy
> Android Lust-Stripped and Stiched.
> Borknagar-Origin
>
> Thinking it over, if Bomber had to sit through most of this, he'd
> probably jump out of a window.
>
> Most of what I listened to today probably is of zero interest to
> most here, but I don't care.
Nope, what I`ve heard of that I don`t want to hear again. But there`s no
reason you should care!
Ian Salsbury
> The second and third Borknagar cds are excellent. But ya, I wouldn't
> listen
> to any of that. On my Ipod today:
>
> Katatonia
> Maiden (just bought tickets for the June show today!)
I`ve got tickets for the Twickenham gig, can`t wait for it. Is the
Helloween/Gamma Ray tour coming anywhere near you? I see the dates are out -
I can`t remember which city you said you lived in.
Bomber
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I'm in Winnipeg. I doubt that tour will come here. I wouldn't miss it though
if it did. I'm hoping the rumored Testament/Motorhead/Judas Priest/Heaven
And Hell tour happens and pays us a visit as well. That's pure gold!
Bomber
In The Shadows was the last one of theirs I liked. Excellent album.
tom...@juno.com
>> I did take Opeth-Damnation to work today.
>> The before mentioned BoC-Revolution by Night.
>> A different Beseech album. Sunless Days.
>> I wanted to laugh, a lot, so I took a Lords of Acid CD to listen to. I
>> know, bomber would hate them, and probably most here would also hate
>> them, but I find it to be very comical.
>> Epica-Divine Conspiracy
>> Android Lust-Stripped and Stiched.
>> Borknagar-Origin
>>
>> Thinking it over, if Bomber had to sit through most of this, he'd
>> probably jump out of a window.
>
>The second and third Borknagar cds are excellent. But ya, I wouldn't listen
>to any of that. On my Ipod today:
Did you like Opeth at all, I can't remember.
>Katatonia
>Maiden (just bought tickets for the June show today!)
>Iron Savior
>Rainbow
>Metal Church
What Metal Church? I liked their old stuff. I believe I have 5 or so
CD's. I did not like the last one I heard.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > As I said, if you can find Gutter Ballet, give it another shot.
>>
>> > Tom
>>
>> I'd put Gutter Ballet after HotMK, Power Of The Night,Dungeons,and Sirens.
>> Excellent album though.
>
>I like it more than POTN, but otherwise I agree.
>
>HOTMK is a cast-iron classic.
>
>e.
>--
>RIP criss olivia
Have you seen recent picks of Jon?
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You'll like this. I have heard some ABBA songs, but I don't remember
>> hearing that one.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> True to form.
>
>LOL, you haven't heard "gimme?" Were you dead during the entire late
>70's through mid-80's? :)
>
>e.
>--
>ABBA is not nearly as gay as power metal
What was that hit, Dancing Queen or something like that?
But back to Beseech, the thing I like about them is how the vocals
contrast. By themselves, I don't think either singer is great, but
they blend together so well.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>>
>> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
>
>You have officially blown my mind. LOL.
I just looked them up on BNR, it does not list another album after
9, why does that blow your mind. I did not say ALL I have ever heard
was 9.
>For Ian, and others that actually listened to metal at some point
>during the 80's:
I never really got into King Diamond all that much, so MF just
wasn't something I listened to much.
>I find Shadows a really underrated album. Yeah, Egypt was really
>cheesy, and it's nowhere near as good as Oath, but in the grand scheme
>of metal, it's a fantastic group of songs by one of the best bands in
>the genre.
>
>The Old Oak = most underrated epic from the decade, IMO.
>
>e.
>--
>gonna go spin it again
Glad you like it.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Nevermore - Dead Heart in a Dead World
>>
>> Like some of it, but never really got into the full album.
>
>It`s the greatest metal album of the last 10 years and you never "got into
>the full album"?! *shakes head in disbelief*
The best song on it is a powerballad. How can that be "the best
metal album of the last 10 years"?
It's not even close to being my favorite NM album.
>>>Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>>
>> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
>
>Man, this album was about 15 years ago!!
1999.
>>>Exodus - The Atrocity Exhibition
>>
>> This has been lost in the shuffle I guess. Musicwise, it kills, but
>> I don't find the songs very catchy.
>
>I`d tend to agree...first time I played it in a while.
>>>Children of Bodom - Bloodrunk
>>>Lair of the Minotaur - War Battle Metal Master
>>>In Flames - Clayman
>>
>> Heard once, liked more than any other In Flames I've heard.
>
>I love the album...the new CoB is far better than their last couple as well.
I haven't listened to CoB in a long time.
>> I did take Opeth-Damnation to work today.
>> The before mentioned BoC-Revolution by Night.
>> A different Beseech album. Sunless Days.
>> I wanted to laugh, a lot, so I took a Lords of Acid CD to listen to. I
>> know, bomber would hate them, and probably most here would also hate
>> them, but I find it to be very comical.
>> Epica-Divine Conspiracy
>> Android Lust-Stripped and Stiched.
>> Borknagar-Origin
>>
>> Thinking it over, if Bomber had to sit through most of this, he'd
>> probably jump out of a window.
>>
>> Most of what I listened to today probably is of zero interest to
>> most here, but I don't care.
>
>Nope, what I`ve heard of that I don`t want to hear again. But there`s no
>reason you should care!
Which is fine. Got the DA now.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
>> Katatonia
>>> Maiden (just bought tickets for the June show today!)
>>
>> I`ve got tickets for the Twickenham gig, can`t wait for it. Is the
>> Helloween/Gamma Ray tour coming anywhere near you? I see the dates are
>> out - I can`t remember which city you said you lived in.
>I'm in Winnipeg. I doubt that tour will come here. I wouldn't miss it though
>if it did. I'm hoping the rumored Testament/Motorhead/Judas Priest/Heaven
>And Hell tour happens and pays us a visit as well. That's pure gold!
That would be excellent.
Tom
audiophile
> >HOTMK is a cast-iron classic.
>
> >e.
> >--
> >RIP criss olivia
>
> Have you seen recent picks of Jon?
Depends on how one defines recent, but he's pretty fat in some of the
TSO vids I saw.
But what does one expect. Fat or bald - it's the metalhead destiny.
e.
--
"shower with rogaine ... for SATAN!!!!!!!!"
audiophile
> >> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
>
> >You have officially blown my mind. LOL.
>
> I just looked them up on BNR, it does not list another album after
> 9, why does that blow your mind. I did not say ALL I have ever heard
> was 9.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercyful_Fate_discography
Learn your metal history, boy!
> >For Ian, and others that actually listened to metal at some point
> >during the 80's:
>
> I never really got into King Diamond all that much, so MF just
> wasn't something I listened to much.
Your loss. Mercyful Fate stands head and shoulders over the vast
majority of metal.
e.
--
declaring MERCYFUL FATE WEEK on usenet!
tom...@juno.com
>>>>Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>>
>> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
>
>You have officially blown my mind. LOL.
>
>For Ian, and others that actually listened to metal at some point
>during the 80's:
A little history lesson for e. Underground metal in the 80's was
appointment music. You had to buy it or know someone who did, there
was no airplay for it, no internet to explore it and so on. My circle
of friends rapidly became "radio rock" only type fans. As they got
married, had kids and so on, they couldn't go out and buy any 10-20 of
100's of albums released every year. When I got married, the whole
cycle from meeting, dating, married, and then divorced, I believe I
was able to buy a grand total of 4 CD's the whole time. You tell me
when I was supposed to know about all these mid-90's classics?
And when Nirvana's crap hit the charts, it all went down another
level into the underground.
I mean you act like these sorts of albums sold 1,000,000 copies, and
everyone in the world owns them all.
Some of the bands do sell 1,000,000, but they're the ones who've
been a lot more lucky, and/or got some radio/other media airplay.
KD himself, says that MF never sold that much, and he couldn't
actually tour much and make any money doing it. He did seem to say
he'd like to do more MF albums, but he can't do that for free.
Of course today you can go on myspace or youtube and fly genre to
genre all day long if you have time. This did not exist in the 80's
and early 90's.
And you mentioned the ABBA thing, but I just remember them having a
couple singles that were sort of big in the US in the late 70's or so.
Can't remember the exact hits. Been so long ago, but even then, I
didn't really care for top-40 stuff.
>I find Shadows a really underrated album. Yeah, Egypt was really
>cheesy, and it's nowhere near as good as Oath, but in the grand scheme
>of metal, it's a fantastic group of songs by one of the best bands in
>the genre.
>
>The Old Oak = most underrated epic from the decade, IMO.
>
>e.
>--
>gonna go spin it again
of the MF albums I can say I know I've heard, Melissa, Don't Break
the Oath, and 9.
Of KD, albums I've heard 8 or so. Of them, Abigail and Them a lot of
times. Conspiracy a good deal of times.
But, I'm not really a big fan of his work. The super hi-pitched
vocals are a put off for me. I do like the deep voice he does, and
even the more mid-level stuff.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >HOTMK is a cast-iron classic.
>>
>> >e.
>> >--
>> >RIP criss olivia
>>
>> Have you seen recent picks of Jon?
>
>Depends on how one defines recent, but he's pretty fat in some of the
>TSO vids I saw.
>
>But what does one expect. Fat or bald - it's the metalhead destiny.
>
>e.
>--
>"shower with rogaine ... for SATAN!!!!!!!!"
Bald, here. But not overly fat. 5' 9' in the 150's range.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 28, 10:23 pm, tom_...@juno.com wrote:
>
>> >> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
>>
>> >You have officially blown my mind. LOL.
>>
>> I just looked them up on BNR, it does not list another album after
>> 9, why does that blow your mind. I did not say ALL I have ever heard
>> was 9.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercyful_Fate_discography
>
>Learn your metal history, boy!
It does not list a more recent album. A best of from 2003. But to
me, best of's don't register. Those are for people who don't like
band's full albums.
>> >For Ian, and others that actually listened to metal at some point
>> >during the 80's:
>>
>> I never really got into King Diamond all that much, so MF just
>> wasn't something I listened to much.
>
>Your loss. Mercyful Fate stands head and shoulders over the vast
>majority of metal.
>
>e.
>--
>declaring MERCYFUL FATE WEEK on usenet!
9 suffers from a no volume CD issue. I can't listen to it at work as
it's sound level is too low to hear well. I don't find much time
outside of work to listen to music, so I have heard 9 only a few
times.
Tom
audiophile
> >> Like some of it, but never really got into the full album.
>
> >It`s the greatest metal album of the last 10 years and you never "got into
> >the full album"?! *shakes head in disbelief*
>
> The best song on it is a powerballad. How can that be "the best
> metal album of the last 10 years"?
????
Narcosynthesis, We Disintegrate, The River Dragon has Come, Sound of
Silence (best cover ever!), Engines of Hate, and the title track.
Light years ahead of the power ballads (of which Insignificant is
still a damn good song).
You may want to listen to the album again.
> It's not even close to being my favorite NM album.
It's not my favorite either. Fourth favorite in fact .. but fourth
for Nevermore is still damn good.
> >>>Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>
> >> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
>
> >Man, this album was about 15 years ago!!
>
> 1999.
Read your metal history.
e.
--
Google - meat and potatoes for the information age
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 28, 10:26 pm, tom_...@juno.com wrote:
>
>> >> Like some of it, but never really got into the full album.
>>
>> >It`s the greatest metal album of the last 10 years and you never "got into
>> >the full album"?! *shakes head in disbelief*
>>
>> The best song on it is a powerballad. How can that be "the best
>> metal album of the last 10 years"?
>
>????
>
>Narcosynthesis, We Disintegrate, The River Dragon has Come, Sound of
>Silence (best cover ever!), Engines of Hate, and the title track.
>Light years ahead of the power ballads (of which Insignificant is
>still a damn good song).
Insignificant is the song of which I mean. Maybe at this time I
bought up all the remaining NM albums I didn't have, and it fought
with other albums for listening time.
>You may want to listen to the album again.
>
>> It's not even close to being my favorite NM album.
>
>It's not my favorite either. Fourth favorite in fact .. but fourth
>for Nevermore is still damn good.
Which is my personal fav. Probably Enemies. I doubt it's a personal
fav for others here.
>> >>>Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>>
>> >> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
>>
>> >Man, this album was about 15 years ago!!
>>
>> 1999.
>
>Read your metal history.
>
>e.
>--
>Google - meat and potatoes for the information age
Looking at the Wicapedia thing you said, 9 is a 1999 album, Only a
best of listed at a late release date, not sure what I could have
missed?
1999 is not 15 years ago. 9 is the last album by them I have heard.
Tom
Bomber
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message news:47edb4d...@news.verizon.net...
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:07:43 GMT, "Bomber" <bom...@bomber.bomb> wrote:
>
>>> I did take Opeth-Damnation to work today.
>>> The before mentioned BoC-Revolution by Night.
>>> A different Beseech album. Sunless Days.
>>> I wanted to laugh, a lot, so I took a Lords of Acid CD to listen to. I
>>> know, bomber would hate them, and probably most here would also hate
>>> them, but I find it to be very comical.
>>> Epica-Divine Conspiracy
>>> Android Lust-Stripped and Stiched.
>>> Borknagar-Origin
>>>
>>> Thinking it over, if Bomber had to sit through most of this, he'd
>>> probably jump out of a window.
>>
>>The second and third Borknagar cds are excellent. But ya, I wouldn't
>>listen
>>to any of that. On my Ipod today:
>
> Did you like Opeth at all, I can't remember.
MAYH is very good.
>
>>Katatonia
>>Maiden (just bought tickets for the June show today!)
>>Iron Savior
>>Rainbow
>>Metal Church
>
> What Metal Church? I liked their old stuff. I believe I have 5 or so
> CD's. I did not like the last one I heard.
>
> Tom
>
>
Blessing In Disguise (their 3rd album). I like the first 4 and Masterpeace.
The one before Masterpeace was garbage, and I don't like the current singer.
According to Blabbermouth it looks like Maiden ticket sales are going crazy
for the Canadian dates. Good to hear.
Ian Salsbury
"Bomber" <bom...@bomber.bomb> wrote in message
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Yeah, that would be an awesome gig. Helloween only seem to be playing Quebec
in Canada...which I guess is some distance ( my Canadian geography isn`t
great! ).
Ian Salsbury
>>>>Nevermore - Dead Heart in a Dead World
>>>
>>> Like some of it, but never really got into the full album.
>>
>>It`s the greatest metal album of the last 10 years and you never "got into
>>the full album"?! *shakes head in disbelief*
>
> The best song on it is a powerballad. How can that be "the best
> metal album of the last 10 years"?
> It's not even close to being my favorite NM album.
There`s not a song on it I don`t adore.
>>>>Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>>>
>>> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
>>
>>Man, this album was about 15 years ago!!
>
> 1999.
I think you misunderstand me. The album I mentioned...which you asked
whether or not was a recent album...is 15 years old. It was the first of
MF`s reunion albums back in 1993. Which is why e was so incredulous of you
for asking if it was a new album.
tom...@juno.com
>>>to any of that. On my Ipod today:
>>
>> Did you like Opeth at all, I can't remember.
>
>MAYH is very good.
It's a start.
>>>Katatonia
>>>Maiden (just bought tickets for the June show today!)
>>>Iron Savior
>>>Rainbow
>>>Metal Church
>>
>> What Metal Church? I liked their old stuff. I believe I have 5 or so
>> CD's. I did not like the last one I heard.
>>
>> Tom
>Blessing In Disguise (their 3rd album). I like the first 4 and Masterpeace.
>The one before Masterpeace was garbage, and I don't like the current singer.
I listened to Masterpeace once, and decided it was not going
anywhere I wanted to go.
Liked the first 4 albums a good deal. Stop the world.
>According to Blabbermouth it looks like Maiden ticket sales are going crazy
>for the Canadian dates. Good to hear.
Maybe they add a couple? Maybe they add some South of the border.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> I'm in Winnipeg. I doubt that tour will come here. I wouldn't miss it
>> though if it did. I'm hoping the rumored Testament/Motorhead/Judas
>> Priest/Heaven And Hell tour happens and pays us a visit as well. That's
>> pure gold!
>
>Yeah, that would be an awesome gig. Helloween only seem to be playing Quebec
>in Canada...which I guess is some distance ( my Canadian geography isn`t
>great! ).
Winnipeg to Quebec, not sure, but I believe that's probably over
1000 miles.
Side note to Bomber, is the lake unfrozen yet?
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>It`s the greatest metal album of the last 10 years and you never "got into
>>>the full album"?! *shakes head in disbelief*
>>
>> The best song on it is a powerballad. How can that be "the best
>> metal album of the last 10 years"?
>> It's not even close to being my favorite NM album.
>
>There`s not a song on it I don`t adore.
It's only ok, if you ask me. But I'm not a total NM fanboi, either.
>>>>>Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>>>>
>>>> Last I heard was 9, have they done another album since?
>>>
>>>Man, this album was about 15 years ago!!
>>
>> 1999.
>
>I think you misunderstand me. The album I mentioned...which you asked
>whether or not was a recent album...is 15 years old. It was the first of
>MF`s reunion albums back in 1993. Which is why e was so incredulous of you
>for asking if it was a new album.
As I said, I am not a big fan of KD, or MF, so I don't know the
whole history and such.
Tom
Ian Salsbury
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Well, I travelled 240 miles for Helloween/Gamma Ray. A 1,000 miles is
probably above and beyond the call to duty!
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Yeah, that would be an awesome gig. Helloween only seem to be playing
>>>Quebec
>>>in Canada...which I guess is some distance ( my Canadian geography isn`t
>>>great! ).
>>
>> Winnipeg to Quebec, not sure, but I believe that's probably over
>> 1000 miles.
>
>Well, I travelled 240 miles for Helloween/Gamma Ray. A 1,000 miles is
>probably above and beyond the call to duty!
Even if you drove to the Northern end of Scotland, I doubt it would be
1,000 miles, would it?
Tom
Ian Salsbury
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About 7-800 at a guess. I`m travelling about 700 miles to see Manowar this
summer!
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Well, I travelled 240 miles for Helloween/Gamma Ray. A 1,000 miles is
>>>probably above and beyond the call to duty!
>>
>> Even if you drove to the Northern end of Scotland, I doubt it would be
>> 1,000 miles, would it?
>
>About 7-800 at a guess. I`m travelling about 700 miles to see Manowar this
>summer!
For me to see Manowar this summer, I assume it would take some
airline flight, and so on.
If only they were as popular in the US as Germany. We'd get some
actual tours then.
Tom
Ian Salsbury
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We`re looking at driving it...the nearest airport to me that flies to this
part of Germany at a reasonable price is 300 miles away. Between 4 of us the
driving should be alright...and we can get to see a bit more of Germany as
well.
The line up is looking dodgy though...WASP, Doro Pesch, Whitesnake, Alice
Cooper, Joe Lynn Turner Project and a bunch of second rate power metal bands
I`ve never heard of. I can see a lot of time in the beer tent...I may not
even remember Manowar!
I`m hoping to convince others to go to the Hellfest in France...it`s an
overnight ferry trip and 3 hour drive from me and has an awesome line up...
Testament, Carcass, In Flames, Dimu Borgir, Death Angel, Marduk, Evile,
Septic Flesh, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Iced Earth, Satyricon, Porcupine Tree,
Ministry, Sodom, Forbidden, Belphegor, Motorhead, Opeth, Morbid Angel, At
the Gates, Obituary, My Dying Bride, Soilwork, Necrophagist, Municipal
Waste, Impaled Nazarene, Cavalrea Conspiracy, Mayhem, Meshuggah...
although not to many in heres tastes I guess!
Bomber
Hell, I'll go with ya!
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>About 7-800 at a guess. I`m travelling about 700 miles to see Manowar this
>>>summer!
>>
>> For me to see Manowar this summer, I assume it would take some
>> airline flight, and so on.
>> If only they were as popular in the US as Germany. We'd get some
>> actual tours then.
>
>We`re looking at driving it...the nearest airport to me that flies to this
>part of Germany at a reasonable price is 300 miles away. Between 4 of us the
>driving should be alright...and we can get to see a bit more of Germany as
>well.
I guess you ferry the channel, then.
>The line up is looking dodgy though...WASP, Doro Pesch, Whitesnake, Alice
>Cooper, Joe Lynn Turner Project and a bunch of second rate power metal bands
>I`ve never heard of. I can see a lot of time in the beer tent...I may not
>even remember Manowar!
This does not look so great.
>I`m hoping to convince others to go to the Hellfest in France...it`s an
>overnight ferry trip and 3 hour drive from me and has an awesome line up...
>
>Testament, Carcass, In Flames, Dimu Borgir, Death Angel, Marduk, Evile,
>Septic Flesh, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Iced Earth, Satyricon, Porcupine Tree,
>Ministry, Sodom, Forbidden, Belphegor, Motorhead, Opeth, Morbid Angel, At
>the Gates, Obituary, My Dying Bride, Soilwork, Necrophagist, Municipal
>Waste, Impaled Nazarene, Cavalrea Conspiracy, Mayhem, Meshuggah...
>
>although not to many in heres tastes I guess!
I don't know, I see a lot I'd like to see in concert.
Tom
Bomber
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According to Google maps: Driving distance 3587 km. Flying is around 1200
km. It's too far. I wouldn't want to go to Quebec either. The St.Paul show
is a possibility.
>
> Side note to Bomber, is the lake unfrozen yet?
>
Which one? There are hundreds. I think all are still frozen. It was +4
yesterday and most of the snow was gone.....now it's a blizzard. Yay.
audiophile
> Insignificant is the song of which I mean. Maybe at this time I
> bought up all the remaining NM albums I didn't have, and it fought
> with other albums for listening time.
I repeat:
> >You may want to listen to the album again.
Although maybe it's passed that strange statute of limitations you
seem to impose on records...
> >> It's not even close to being my favorite NM album.
>
> >It's not my favorite either. Fourth favorite in fact .. but fourth
> >for Nevermore is still damn good.
>
> Which is my personal fav. Probably Enemies. I doubt it's a personal
> fav for others here.
Enemies is by far my least favorite NM. And yes, I heard the Andy
Sneap remix.
> >> >>>Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>
> >Read your metal history.
>
> >Google - meat and potatoes for the information age
>
> Looking at the Wicapedia thing you said, 9 is a 1999 album, Only a
> best of listed at a late release date, not sure what I could have
> missed?
I posted the MF discography. If you had taken the extra ten seconds to
actually read the page, you'd have found In The Shadows as a 1993
recording.
> 1999 is not 15 years ago. 9 is the last album by them I have heard.
And it's their last recorded album.
A damn fine album, at that.
e.
--
oh father, betrayed by your own
oh father, did satan take your soul?
they found him in the tower
hanging from the bell
a twisted smile on his face
as if he came straight from hell
- The Church of St. Anne
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Insignificant is the song of which I mean. Maybe at this time I
>> bought up all the remaining NM albums I didn't have, and it fought
>> with other albums for listening time.
>
>I repeat:
>
>> >You may want to listen to the album again.
>
>Although maybe it's passed that strange statute of limitations you
>seem to impose on records...
I have heard the album many times, it just does not consistently do
it for me. It isn't any statute of limitations or anything.
For the record, there is no time statute of limitations. If I still
enjoy an album, I will continue to listen to it. Cases in point.
BoC-Secret Treaties, and so many others, all dated pre-1990.
Judas Priest-most of, and again, all pre-1991
IM-all the stuff I usually listen by them is pre-90.
BS, all I listen by them runs pre-95.
There's more, but I think you overstate my statement that for "current
stuff" I listen to a CD, weekly, bi-weekly, couple times a month,
whatever, until it sort of slips, or get's replaced by a simular genre
CD. At that point a CD may be something I listen to once a month, or
2-3 times a year.
But, full disclosure, I do have a, of the sorts, 1000 CD stack, and
of it, some have not been played in 10-15 years. Times change, and
tolerance for certain aspects falls.
>> >> It's not even close to being my favorite NM album.
>>
>> >It's not my favorite either. Fourth favorite in fact .. but fourth
>> >for Nevermore is still damn good.
>>
>> Which is my personal fav. Probably Enemies. I doubt it's a personal
>> fav for others here.
>
>Enemies is by far my least favorite NM. And yes, I heard the Andy
>Sneap remix.
For me, it checked off all the things I wanted in an album at that
time, with the sole exception of a crappy mix.
After getting the re-mix album, it spawned off a lot of listens all
over again.
As for tGE, it also got a lot of listens, but less so, and there's a
few songs on it, I now skip when I listen to it.
>> >> >>>Mercyful Fate - Into the Shadows
>>
>> >Read your metal history.
>>
>> >Google - meat and potatoes for the information age
>>
>> Looking at the Wicapedia thing you said, 9 is a 1999 album, Only a
>> best of listed at a late release date, not sure what I could have
>> missed?
>
>I posted the MF discography. If you had taken the extra ten seconds to
>actually read the page, you'd have found In The Shadows as a 1993
>recording.
>
>> 1999 is not 15 years ago. 9 is the last album by them I have heard.
>
>And it's their last recorded album.
>
>A damn fine album, at that.
>
>e.
>--
And that is EXACTLY what I said. 9 was the last album by them I've
heard.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
>On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 22:13:03 -0700 (PDT), audiophile
><audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Insignificant is the song of which I mean. Maybe at this time I
>>> bought up all the remaining NM albums I didn't have, and it fought
>>> with other albums for listening time.
>>
>>I repeat:
>>
>>> >You may want to listen to the album again.
>>
>>Although maybe it's passed that strange statute of limitations you
>>seem to impose on records...
I had to take Enemies of Reality to work to listen, because we were
talking about Nevermore.
And for me, it's the only totally "essential" NM.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
Pulling Ian's playlist because I want to comment here.
>Graves of the Archangels - Dead Congregation - straight up old school death
>metal ala Immolation/Suffocation. Exactly the sort of thing I`ve been really
>bored with lately...must have caught me in the right mood this morning
>because I enjoyed the hell out of it!
Maybe it's because you've not been listening to much DM of late?
I find that albums I like a lot, but haven't heard in a while
usually play well with the break. I haven't bought a full on DM album
in a long time. I don't often play them much anymore, either.
>Farsot - III
>Drautran - Throne of the Depths - Both of these are old school atmospheric
>nasty black metal...enjoyed both for about 3 songs each before tiring of
>them.
>
>Forefather - Steadfast - I *really* liked this on first listen today...I
>guess it`d be labelled as pagan black metal or something but there`s a lot
>of twin guitar melodeath in there as well...plus a few shouty, fist banging
>choruses. I`d ( dare I say it ) recommend this to Wyrd if he hasn`t heard it
>already...
>
>Dismember - Dismember - always a fun listen although so much like every
>other Dismember album I`m getting tired of it quick.
That does not sound like a ringing endorsement.
>Korpiklaani - Korven Kuningas - tremendously entertaining as always but some
>way short of their best. If you like them you`ll like this - if you don`t
>you won`t!
So, I just probably should skip it, then? No, I will go aheard and
run through this list and give them a shot.
>S.O.D. - Rise of the Infidels - first time I`ve bothered to listen to this -
>something of a cheap cash in, the live album which makes up the bulk of it
>is very lo-fi, nowhere near good enough quality for release IMO.
Sounds like a contractual obligation sort of thing. That Speak
English or Die thing was gold...But I don't think they should have
ever done another record. Now, for Billy to do MoD was/is ok.
>Death Angel - Killing Season
Just got this, and after three listens I hear nothing to bash the
band for. I don't understand the hate they're getting on AMS over the
album.
>Dark Tranquility - The Gallery
Going to have to go back to this, but for me, DT is Projector, and
all else is lessor. It may not be a popular opinion, but I'm sorry,
it's hardly a close contest, either. I wish they'd commit to doing
another experimental sort of album along those lines.
That said, the other stuff is quite solid, kick ass stuff.
>Alestorm - Captain Morgan`s Revenge
>Gamma Ray - No World Order
>Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
>Overkill - Feel the Fire
I didn't think you liked Overkill much. However, this album is
killer. Still love it to bits even after all this time.
>Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
>Exodus - Bonded By Blood ( this is surely one of the best albums ever...and
>*surely* no-one would disagree!?! ).
Perhaps some would. I need to hear it again, it's been so long. Of
course, it's been so long for all those old Exodus albums. FoH sort of
put me off the band for over a decade. Although I did give it a listen
maybe a year ago and now don't really hear why I was disappointed back
then with it.
Tom
Rotten to the core
tom...@juno.com
>> Like some of it, but never really got into the full album.
>>
>> >It`s the greatest metal album of the last 10 years and you never "got into
>> >the full album"?! *shakes head in disbelief*
>>
>> The best song on it is a powerballad. How can that be "the best
>> metal album of the last 10 years"?
>
>????
>
>Narcosynthesis, We Disintegrate, The River Dragon has Come, Sound of
>Silence (best cover ever!), Engines of Hate, and the title track.
>Light years ahead of the power ballads (of which Insignificant is
>still a damn good song).
>
>You may want to listen to the album again.
>
>> It's not even close to being my favorite NM album.
>
>It's not my favorite either. Fourth favorite in fact .. but fourth
>for Nevermore is still damn good.
>e.
>--
>Google - meat and potatoes for the information age
Ok, I've pulled this for a listen, since it was talked about in such
glowing terms. I don't really see it. I mean it's not bad, but just
not that memorable for me.
Of course, the Dreaming Neon Black album that sits along side it on
my shelf of forever, well, it also doesn't seem to get many plays.
On the history of the band with me, I bought the debut shortly after
it was released, and did give it a good number of listens, and did
mostly like it.
Of course, not that long after that I got married, and was sort out
of commission for a good three years.
When I had the extra money, I went out and bought Politics of
Ecstasy, DNB, In Memory EP, and Dead Heart, all in quick succession.
Maybe too quick. I figure I never really got to digest the albums in
the proper way. So only the songs that really caught my attention
really stuck.
(the proper way, get day of release, listen to the album as much as
I want until the next album is released.)
Tom
Just a speck in the spectrum
audiophile
> >>Although maybe it's passed that strange statute of limitations you
> >>seem to impose on records...
>
> I had to take Enemies of Reality to work to listen, because we were
> talking about Nevermore.
> And for me, it's the only totally "essential" NM.
Goes to show, I guess. I consider the debut and EOR to be the only two
non-essential NM releases.
The rest are metal at its finest.
e.
--
dreaming neon black
audiophile
> >Death Angel - Killing Season
>
> Just got this, and after three listens I hear nothing to bash the
> band for. I don't understand the hate they're getting on AMS over the
> album.
Only 2 people in AMS are trashing it, the rest are defending it.
> >Dark Tranquility - The Gallery
>
> Going to have to go back to this, but for me, DT is Projector, and
> all else is lessor. It may not be a popular opinion, but I'm sorry,
> it's hardly a close contest, either. I wish they'd commit to doing
> another experimental sort of album along those lines.
> That said, the other stuff is quite solid, kick ass stuff.
When it comes down to it, Projector is the only DT album I listen to
more than once a year. The rest have bored me to tears within 2-3
plays. Except the new one, which I just didn't bother with.
> >Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
Classic!!!!!!
> >Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
!!!!!
AMJP readers should avoid this band.
> >Exodus - Bonded By Blood ( this is surely one of the best albums ever...and
> >*surely* no-one would disagree!?! ).
>
> Perhaps some would. I need to hear it again, it's been so long. Of
> course, it's been so long for all those old Exodus albums. FoH sort of
> put me off the band for over a decade. Although I did give it a listen
> maybe a year ago and now don't really hear why I was disappointed back
> then with it.
I'm the black sheep in this one, in that I prefer Pleasures of the
Flesh to BBB. That said, BBB is undeniably the more important and
influential album. And it kicks ass in every way.
I also recently revisited FoH and had a similar reaction. Not nearly
as bad as I remembered.
e.
--
today is a good day to die
Ian Salsbury
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message news:47f41f8...@news.verizon.net...
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:03:57 GMT, tom...@juno.com wrote:
>
> Pulling Ian's playlist because I want to comment here.
>
>>Graves of the Archangels - Dead Congregation - straight up old school
>>death
>>metal ala Immolation/Suffocation. Exactly the sort of thing I`ve been
>>really
>>bored with lately...must have caught me in the right mood this morning
>>because I enjoyed the hell out of it!
>
> Maybe it's because you've not been listening to much DM of late?
> I find that albums I like a lot, but haven't heard in a while
> usually play well with the break. I haven't bought a full on DM album
> in a long time. I don't often play them much anymore, either.
It may be a while before I play it again but it hit me in the right mood.
>>Farsot - III
>>Drautran - Throne of the Depths - Both of these are old school atmospheric
>>nasty black metal...enjoyed both for about 3 songs each before tiring of
>>them.
>>
>>Forefather - Steadfast - I *really* liked this on first listen today...I
>>guess it`d be labelled as pagan black metal or something but there`s a lot
>>of twin guitar melodeath in there as well...plus a few shouty, fist
>>banging
>>choruses. I`d ( dare I say it ) recommend this to Wyrd if he hasn`t heard
>>it
>>already...
>>
>>Dismember - Dismember - always a fun listen although so much like every
>>other Dismember album I`m getting tired of it quick.
>
> That does not sound like a ringing endorsement.
It`s great but...I have all their other albums and at the end of the day
it`s just another Dismember album.
>>Death Angel - Killing Season
>
> Just got this, and after three listens I hear nothing to bash the
> band for. I don't understand the hate they're getting on AMS over the
> album.
It`s only Wyrd and Franky.
>>Dark Tranquility - The Gallery
>
> Going to have to go back to this, but for me, DT is Projector, and
> all else is lessor. It may not be a popular opinion, but I'm sorry,
> it's hardly a close contest, either. I wish they'd commit to doing
> another experimental sort of album along those lines.
> That said, the other stuff is quite solid, kick ass stuff.
Projector has probably come ot be my favourite DT album ( and I hated it at
first! ) but, aside from the so-so debut I think they`re all outstanding.
>>Alestorm - Captain Morgan`s Revenge
>>Gamma Ray - No World Order
>>Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
>>Overkill - Feel the Fire
>
> I didn't think you liked Overkill much. However, this album is
> killer. Still love it to bits even after all this time.
I never was a big fan back in the day but I`ve warmed to them over the
years.
>>Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
>>Exodus - Bonded By Blood ( this is surely one of the best albums
>>ever...and
>>*surely* no-one would disagree!?! ).
>
> Perhaps some would. I need to hear it again, it's been so long. Of
> course, it's been so long for all those old Exodus albums. FoH sort of
> put me off the band for over a decade. Although I did give it a listen
> maybe a year ago and now don't really hear why I was disappointed back
> then with it.
I thought FoH was poor, been ages since I`ve played it. For me classic
Exodus is the first 2, the next couple were solid, FoH was awful...all the
reunion albums have been great although the new one is a little bland.
Ian Salsbury
"audiophile" <audio...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I kind of agree although I do think EoR is excellent. The holy trinity of
DNB, DHiaDW and TGE are untouchable for me though...and Politics isn`t far
behind. As I think everyone knows...my favourite band of the last decade.
Probably in my top 10 of all time now.
Ian Salsbury
>> I`m hoping to convince others to go to the Hellfest in France...it`s an
>> overnight ferry trip and 3 hour drive from me and has an awesome line
>> up...
>>
>> Testament, Carcass, In Flames, Dimu Borgir, Death Angel, Marduk, Evile,
>> Septic Flesh, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Iced Earth, Satyricon, Porcupine
>> Tree, Ministry, Sodom, Forbidden, Belphegor, Motorhead, Opeth, Morbid
>> Angel, At the Gates, Obituary, My Dying Bride, Soilwork, Necrophagist,
>> Municipal Waste, Impaled Nazarene, Cavalrea Conspiracy, Mayhem,
>> Meshuggah...
>>
>> although not to many in heres tastes I guess!
>>
>>
>
> Hell, I'll go with ya!
Slayer, Venom, Candlemass, Rotting Christ and Krisiun have just been added
now!
audiophile
wrote:
> > The rest are metal at its finest.
>
> I kind of agree although I do think EoR is excellent. The holy trinity of
> DNB, DHiaDW and TGE are untouchable for me though...and Politics isn`t far
> behind. As I think everyone knows...my favourite band of the last decade.
> Probably in my top 10 of all time now.
On EOR the classic songs are Who Decides (kinda) and Seed Awakening.
The rest are ... okay, I guess ... but just too far into "brutal"
territory, which annoys me.
Nevermore is not a chugga-chugga metal band. They're so much more than
that, as evidenced by DNB and TGE. DHIADW is more crunchy downtuned
standard fare, but it's so much better than anything else in its field
that it gets a pass. EOR is just too "beneath" them, I guess.
e.
--
(insert obligatory IMHO, and other politically correct disclaimers)
tom...@juno.com
I did take DNB to work today, and I can say I like it more than
DHiaDW.
Tom
Beyond Within
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 2, 7:15 pm, tom_...@juno.com wrote:
>
>> >Death Angel - Killing Season
>>
>> Just got this, and after three listens I hear nothing to bash the
>> band for. I don't understand the hate they're getting on AMS over the
>> album.
>
>Only 2 people in AMS are trashing it, the rest are defending it.
That's two too many, if you ask me.
By the way, I took Act III to work today as well, and it holds up.
>> >Dark Tranquility - The Gallery
>>
>> Going to have to go back to this, but for me, DT is Projector, and
>> all else is lessor. It may not be a popular opinion, but I'm sorry,
>> it's hardly a close contest, either. I wish they'd commit to doing
>> another experimental sort of album along those lines.
>> That said, the other stuff is quite solid, kick ass stuff.
>
>When it comes down to it, Projector is the only DT album I listen to
>more than once a year. The rest have bored me to tears within 2-3
>plays. Except the new one, which I just didn't bother with.
More than once, what, twice?
Had this at work today as well.
>> >Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
>
>!!!!!
>
>AMJP readers should avoid this band.
There's nothing wrong with this band. Maybe not my cup of tea, but
so be it.
>> >Exodus - Bonded By Blood ( this is surely one of the best albums ever...and
>> >*surely* no-one would disagree!?! ).
>>
>> Perhaps some would. I need to hear it again, it's been so long. Of
>> course, it's been so long for all those old Exodus albums. FoH sort of
>> put me off the band for over a decade. Although I did give it a listen
>> maybe a year ago and now don't really hear why I was disappointed back
>> then with it.
>
>I'm the black sheep in this one, in that I prefer Pleasures of the
>Flesh to BBB. That said, BBB is undeniably the more important and
>influential album. And it kicks ass in every way.
>
>I also recently revisited FoH and had a similar reaction. Not nearly
>as bad as I remembered.
>
>e.
>--
>today is a good day to die
Going back again, soon? I may listen to it again, just to see if it
feels like it's going to get better to me.
I need to hear BBB again.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<audio...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > The rest are metal at its finest.
>>
>> I kind of agree although I do think EoR is excellent. The holy trinity of
>> DNB, DHiaDW and TGE are untouchable for me though...and Politics isn`t far
>> behind. As I think everyone knows...my favourite band of the last decade.
>> Probably in my top 10 of all time now.
>
>On EOR the classic songs are Who Decides (kinda) and Seed Awakening.
>The rest are ... okay, I guess ... but just too far into "brutal"
>territory, which annoys me.
Still, I keep wanting a little extra edge when I listen to the other
NM albums.
>Nevermore is not a chugga-chugga metal band. They're so much more than
>that, as evidenced by DNB and TGE. DHIADW is more crunchy downtuned
>standard fare, but it's so much better than anything else in its field
>that it gets a pass. EOR is just too "beneath" them, I guess.
>
>e.
>--
>(insert obligatory IMHO, and other politically correct disclaimers)
I guess it just means you don't have to listen to it.
A guess, but the remaster has been inserted into a CD player for me
to listen to probably 50 times. It's really about the perfect length
for a metal album of it's type.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
Damn you. It's too bad a hellfest couldn't be done anywhere around
here.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Graves of the Archangels - Dead Congregation -
>>
>> Maybe it's because you've not been listening to much DM of late?
>> I find that albums I like a lot, but haven't heard in a while
>> usually play well with the break. I haven't bought a full on DM album
>> in a long time. I don't often play them much anymore, either.
>
>It may be a while before I play it again but it hit me in the right mood.
Much like any DM for me about now. I just can't get into it. Maybe
in a short time I will again. But right now, unless there's some other
"thing" in in besides straight up DM, I just can't fake interest.
Excepting Grave. Love the outlandish/foollish lyrics.
>>>Dismember - Dismember - always a fun listen although so much like every
>>>other Dismember album I`m getting tired of it quick.
>>
>> That does not sound like a ringing endorsement.
>
>It`s great but...I have all their other albums and at the end of the day
>it`s just another Dismember album.
So, which one would be the best, most classic, most essential, if I
decide to buy one. Already heard a song or two, and think I wouldn't
mind having one album by them.
>>>Death Angel - Killing Season
>>
>> Just got this, and after three listens I hear nothing to bash the
>> band for. I don't understand the hate they're getting on AMS over the
>> album.
>
>It`s only Wyrd and Franky.
They don't count.
>>>Dark Tranquility - The Gallery
>>
>> Going to have to go back to this, but for me, DT is Projector, and
>> all else is lessor. It may not be a popular opinion, but I'm sorry,
>> it's hardly a close contest, either. I wish they'd commit to doing
>> another experimental sort of album along those lines.
>> That said, the other stuff is quite solid, kick ass stuff.
>
>Projector has probably come ot be my favourite DT album ( and I hated it at
>first! ) but, aside from the so-so debut I think they`re all outstanding.
Strangely enough, I liked it right off. A few parts of the clean
singing sort put me off a bit. (ok, mostly only Day to End) but since
have come around even on that. I usually listen to it every week since
getting it. Sometimes twice a week.
So, when did I get Projector. A short time after Charactor was
released. So I believe I've had it about 3 years. Do the math, and 100
plays, 150 plays is not out of the question.
>>>Overkill - Feel the Fire
>>
>> I didn't think you liked Overkill much. However, this album is
>> killer. Still love it to bits even after all this time.
>
>I never was a big fan back in the day but I`ve warmed to them over the
>years.
I really like FtF.
>>>Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
>>>Exodus - Bonded By Blood ( this is surely one of the best albums
>>>ever...and
>>>*surely* no-one would disagree!?! ).
>>
>> Perhaps some would. I need to hear it again, it's been so long. Of
>> course, it's been so long for all those old Exodus albums. FoH sort of
>> put me off the band for over a decade. Although I did give it a listen
>> maybe a year ago and now don't really hear why I was disappointed back
>> then with it.
>
>I thought FoH was poor, been ages since I`ve played it. For me classic
>Exodus is the first 2, the next couple were solid, FoH was awful...all the
>reunion albums have been great although the new one is a little bland.
I thought FoH was a total abomination the first 2 or 3 times I
listened, and with that, perhaps 3 listens I put it away for probably
15 years with nary a listen one. Until recently I gave it a listen and
felt, this isn't as bad as I remember.
In fact, I look forward to another listen.
As to the newest one, I don't think the songs are all that catchy,
music alone, it crushes. But music alone, just isn't enough. It does
not crush anymore than Shovel did, but Shovel has the added bonus of
several catchy songs.
Tom
Bomber
I'll be right over.
Bomber
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message news:47f564f...@news.verizon.net...
I brought it yesterday. It sits above the debut at the bottom of the list.
tom...@juno.com
Today's playlist..
Death Angel-Act III
Nevermore-Dreaming Neon Black
The Gathering-Superheat (live)
Dark Tranquillity-Projector
Amorphis-Eclipse
To-Mera-Delusions
(who says I can't go back in time)
DA-1990, NM 99, TG 2000, DT 99.
Other recent plays
BoC-Club Ninja (86), Imaginos (88) and Revolution By Night (83) Secret
Treaties (74)
The Gathering-Mandylion, Nighttime Birds, How to Measure a Planet (all
90's)
NM-DH- 2000
Fates Warning-FWX
(taking FW-Disconnected and NM-DH to work tomorrow)
Amorphis-Silent Waters
DA-Killing Season
Oh, yeah, side note to Bomber, skip the Gathering and To-Mera, you'd
never like them. Ritchie may like To-Mera. He may be the only regular
here who would.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
>>>Goes to show, I guess. I consider the debut and EOR to be the only two
>>>non-essential NM releases.
>>>
>>>The rest are metal at its finest.
>>>
>>>e.
>>>--
>>>dreaming neon black
>>
>> I did take DNB to work today, and I can say I like it more than
>> DHiaDW.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Beyond Within
>I brought it yesterday. It sits above the debut at the bottom of the list.
What's top of list for you?
Tom
Bomber
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:47f57487...@news.verizon.net...
I'd skip it all except for the Amorphis and Nevermore. The oldest I listened
to today was British Steel. The newest was the new Testament.
Bomber
audiophile
> >>> I did take DNB to work today, and I can say I like it more than
> >>> DHiaDW.
>
> >>> Tom
>
> >>> Beyond Within
>
> >>I brought it yesterday. It sits above the debut at the bottom of the list.
>
> > What's top of list for you?
>
> > Tom
>
> Politics.
Which strikes me as odd, since musically DNB is closest to Politics :)
e.
--
either way, two amazing albums
audiophile
> >dreaming neon black
>
> I did take DNB to work today, and I can say I like it more than
> DHiaDW.
Me too. It's in my top 10 metal albums of all time.
e.
--
the cenotaph
Ian Salsbury
>>it`s just another Dismember album.
>
> So, which one would be the best, most classic, most essential, if I
> decide to buy one. Already heard a song or two, and think I wouldn't
> mind having one album by them.
The debut is generally considered the classic - Like an Everflowing Stream.
I`d say any of them are worth a listen though...with the possible exception
of the 3rd album Maximum Killing Capacity ( difficult 3rd album and all
that ). The new one will probably be the easiest for you to find what with
your archaic shopping methods and you can`t go wrong with it as an
introduction.
>>I thought FoH was poor, been ages since I`ve played it. For me classic
>>Exodus is the first 2, the next couple were solid, FoH was awful...all the
>>reunion albums have been great although the new one is a little bland.
>
> I thought FoH was a total abomination the first 2 or 3 times I
> listened, and with that, perhaps 3 listens I put it away for probably
> 15 years with nary a listen one. Until recently I gave it a listen and
> felt, this isn't as bad as I remember.
> In fact, I look forward to another listen.
> As to the newest one, I don't think the songs are all that catchy,
> music alone, it crushes. But music alone, just isn't enough. It does
> not crush anymore than Shovel did, but Shovel has the added bonus of
> several catchy songs.
I don`t think I heard FoH on release. As for the new stuff, I agree
entirely...Shovel is much better than Atrocity. Atrocity is pleasant enough
but 10-15 listens in and I can`t remember one song from another. I saw a
setlist for a recent gig of theirs and almost all of it seemed to come from
the last 2 album apart from 3 songs from BBB. Would be a bit put out if I
went to that.
tom...@juno.com
>> Amorphis-Silent Waters
>> DA-Killing Season
>>
>> Oh, yeah, side note to Bomber, skip the Gathering and To-Mera, you'd
>> never like them. Ritchie may like To-Mera. He may be the only regular
>> here who would.
>>
>> Tom
>I'd skip it all except for the Amorphis and Nevermore. The oldest I listened
>to today was British Steel. The newest was the new Testament.
Thought you might like DT.
Nevermore-Dead Heart (like this more for a work CD than listen to at
home
DT-Haven
Fates Warning-Disconnected
The Gathering-If Then Else
My Dying Bride-Trinity
Sort of a short list today.
tom...@juno.com
>>>> Beyond Within
>>
>>>I brought it yesterday. It sits above the debut at the bottom of the list.
>>
>> What's top of list for you?
>>
>> Tom
>Politics.
I like it.
Tom
tom...@juno.com
Top 10 of all time is highly rated. I can't say any NM album would
be top 10 all time for me.
They do have good albums, and I hope these solo projects don't halt
up a new NM album too long. It's been close to 3 years now since TGE
Tom
tom...@juno.com
<I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>It`s great but...I have all their other albums and at the end of the day
>>>it`s just another Dismember album.
>>
>> So, which one would be the best, most classic, most essential, if I
>> decide to buy one. Already heard a song or two, and think I wouldn't
>> mind having one album by them.
>
>The debut is generally considered the classic - Like an Everflowing Stream.
Like an Everflowing Stream is the name of the album? Odd name.
>I`d say any of them are worth a listen though...with the possible exception
>of the 3rd album Maximum Killing Capacity ( difficult 3rd album and all
>that ). The new one will probably be the easiest for you to find what with
>your archaic shopping methods and you can`t go wrong with it as an
>introduction.
I figure any of them could be ordered. How long it may take for it
to get in is another matter. They may be import only on some of the
older albums. Aren't they with Nuclear Blast now?
>> As to the newest one, I don't think the songs are all that catchy,
>> music alone, it crushes. But music alone, just isn't enough. It does
>> not crush anymore than Shovel did, but Shovel has the added bonus of
>> several catchy songs.
>
>I don`t think I heard FoH on release.
Bought it on the day of release, I believe. Massively disappointed
in it at that time.
>As for the new stuff, I agree
>entirely...Shovel is much better than Atrocity. Atrocity is pleasant enough
>but 10-15 listens in and I can`t remember one song from another. I saw a
>setlist for a recent gig of theirs and almost all of it seemed to come from
>the last 2 album apart from 3 songs from BBB. Would be a bit put out if I
>went to that.
Not that big of a surprise. I figure they want the new singer to
feel at home, if he's doing only their "classics" he might feel a bit
put out.
For me, the most memerable song on it is Children of a Worthless
God.
As for Shovel, I think there's 5-6 very catchy songs, and none of
them are bad.
Tom
Bomber
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message news:47f6ef9...@news.verizon.net...
> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:57:08 GMT, "Bomber" <bom...@bomber.bomb> wrote:
>
>>> Amorphis-Silent Waters
>>> DA-Killing Season
>>>
>>> Oh, yeah, side note to Bomber, skip the Gathering and To-Mera, you'd
>>> never like them. Ritchie may like To-Mera. He may be the only regular
>>> here who would.
>>>
>>> Tom
>
>>I'd skip it all except for the Amorphis and Nevermore. The oldest I
>>listened
>>to today was British Steel. The newest was the new Testament.
>
> Thought you might like DT.
Not that one.
Bomber
<tom...@juno.com> wrote in message news:47f6f0a...@news.verizon.net...
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:34:56 +0100, "Ian Salsbury"
> <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>It`s great but...I have all their other albums and at the end of the day
>>>>it`s just another Dismember album.
>>>
>>> So, which one would be the best, most classic, most essential, if I
>>> decide to buy one. Already heard a song or two, and think I wouldn't
>>> mind having one album by them.
>>
>>The debut is generally considered the classic - Like an Everflowing
>>Stream.
>
> Like an Everflowing Stream is the name of the album? Odd name.
>
>>I`d say any of them are worth a listen though...with the possible
>>exception
>>of the 3rd album Maximum Killing Capacity ( difficult 3rd album and all
>>that ). The new one will probably be the easiest for you to find what with
>>your archaic shopping methods and you can`t go wrong with it as an
>>introduction.
>
> I figure any of them could be ordered. How long it may take for it
> to get in is another matter. They may be import only on some of the
> older albums. Aren't they with Nuclear Blast now?
They've always been with Nuclear Blast. 'Death Metal' would probably be your
best bet for a first album.
tom...@juno.com
>>>> Oh, yeah, side note to Bomber, skip the Gathering and To-Mera, you'd
>>>> never like them. Ritchie may like To-Mera. He may be the only regular
>>>> here who would.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>
>>>I'd skip it all except for the Amorphis and Nevermore. The oldest I
>>>listened
>>>to today was British Steel. The newest was the new Testament.
>>
>> Thought you might like DT.
>Not that one.
Don't like bands doing experiments with their music?
Tom
tom...@juno.com
>> I figure any of them could be ordered. How long it may take for it
>> to get in is another matter. They may be import only on some of the
>> older albums. Aren't they with Nuclear Blast now?
>
>They've always been with Nuclear Blast. 'Death Metal' would probably be your
>best bet for a first album.
Ok, since you recommended that one, and Ian recommended a different
one, and knowing our past disagreements, I may have to lean toward
Ian's recommend more.
Of course, I have to ask, why do you think their "Death Metal" would
be my best bet?
Tom