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tom.m...@gmail.com

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Oct 26, 2009, 6:41:49 PM10/26/09
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Immortal-All Shall Fall.

(I want Bomber to explain why this isn't worthy.)

Death-Symbolic
Leaves Eyes-My Destiny
PT-The Incident
Vast-Me and You

Tom

Ritchie

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Oct 26, 2009, 7:00:22 PM10/26/09
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Today:

Black Sabbath: Born Again
Judas Priest: Ram It Down
Jeff Beck: Flash (love the song "People Get Ready")
Nightwish: Dark Passion Play, Once

Bomber

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Oct 26, 2009, 7:48:30 PM10/26/09
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"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, for the third time now, it sounds like the last three. I don't like
the last three. I really can't make it any more simple for you.


BUZZKILL

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Oct 26, 2009, 8:49:04 PM10/26/09
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tom...@juno.com wrote:
> PT-The Incident

Thoughts?


p t

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Oct 26, 2009, 9:32:17 PM10/26/09
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Mastodon-Remission, saw them over the weekend, Awesome as one would
expect.

Destruction-CotA(disc 2)
Amon Amarth-FoN
Dokken-LsA


tom did you know Epica has a new cd coming out?

that makes Hypocrisy, Slayer, Epica, Nile(i think) coming out next week,
glad i have a few nickels laying around. i need to grab the new
Belphegor as well.

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Oct 28, 2009, 8:08:34 AM10/28/09
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You may be suprised, but I have this CD.

> Nightwish: Dark Passion Play, Once

Been sick, so no playlists today.

Tom

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Oct 28, 2009, 8:09:20 AM10/28/09
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On Oct 26, 5:48 pm, "Bomber" <bom...@bomber.bomb> wrote:
> "tom_...@juno.com" <tom.madm...@gmail.com> wrote in message

It sounds pretty good to me. I don't understand why you don't like
it.

Tom

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Oct 28, 2009, 8:10:12 AM10/28/09
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On Oct 26, 6:49 pm, "BUZZKILL" <watuziNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> tom_...@juno.com wrote:

> > PT-The Incident
>
> Thoughts?

I think it's a pretty impressive album. I don't know what else to
say.

Tom

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Oct 28, 2009, 8:12:32 AM10/28/09
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On Oct 26, 7:32 pm, PrimeTime-...@webtv.net (p t) wrote:
> Mastodon-Remission, saw them over the weekend, Awesome as one would
> expect.
>
> Destruction-CotA(disc 2)
> Amon Amarth-FoN
> Dokken-LsA
>
> tom did you know Epica has a new cd coming out?

Yeah. If you look at Blabbermouth every day, you couldn't miss it.

> that makes Hypocrisy, Slayer, Epica, Nile(i think) coming out next week,
> glad i have a few nickels laying around.  i need to grab the new
> Belphegor as well.

I know, they keep loading up all these albums for release on the
same day. I don't know if you ever heard Defiance, but it's also
released on that day. Personally I am not so worried about Nile or
Hypocrisy. I don't like them much.

Tom


Soze

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Oct 28, 2009, 9:45:58 AM10/28/09
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Since the weekend...

Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Slayer - Show No Mercy
Voivod - RRROOOAAARRR
Destruction - Release from Agony
Slayer - World Painted Blood
Slayer - World Painted Blood
Helloween - Better Than Raw
Slayer - World Painted Blood
Enslaved - Ruun
Enslaved - Isa
Slayer - World Painted Blood
Slayer - World Painted Blood
Slayer - World Painted Blood
Nile - Those Whom the Gods Detest
Obituary - Darkest Day
Belphegor Walpurgis Rites
Immortal - All Shall Fall
Slayer - World Painted Blood
Megadeth - Endgame

p t

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Oct 28, 2009, 10:29:19 AM10/28/09
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cool tom, i figured you did. i never go on BM.

feel like crap as well, still listening to Overkill, Artillery and
Kreator tho. probably throw in some Testament later.

yesterday

Marduk-WW
Leaves Eyes-Njord, pretty good
GD-The Toxic Touch. first time hearing this, really good.


awesome PL Soze, now you just need to mix some Slipknot in haha!!!!. i
do remember you like All Hope is Gone(the single.

BUZZKILL

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Oct 28, 2009, 4:53:33 PM10/28/09
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I don't know if it's as good as Deadwing or In Absentia or not but I haven't
listened to it enough times yet. What are your favorite PT albums/songs?


Bomber

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"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I think you just answered your own question.


Bomber

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I found the Hypocrisy to be boring....maybe you should pick it up.

Bomber

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Oct 28, 2009, 5:40:38 PM10/28/09
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The new Slayer is getting a bunch of plays from me as well. I like the dry
South Of Heaven production on it.


tom.m...@gmail.com

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Oct 28, 2009, 6:54:54 PM10/28/09
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> >>> PT-The Incident
>
> >> Thoughts?
>
> >   I think it's a pretty impressive album. I don't know what else to
> > say.
>
> I don't know if it's as good as Deadwing or In Absentia or not but I haven't
> listened to it enough times yet.  What are your favorite PT albums/songs?

It's so hard to pick. I like a lot of their songs/albums.

Tom

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Oct 28, 2009, 6:55:53 PM10/28/09
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On Oct 28, 8:29 am, PrimeTime-...@webtv.net (p t) wrote:

> cool tom, i figured you did.  i never go on BM.  

It is not going to hurt you.

> feel like crap as well, still listening to Overkill, Artillery and
> Kreator tho.  probably throw in some Testament later.
>
> yesterday
>
> Marduk-WW
> Leaves Eyes-Njord, pretty good
> GD-The Toxic Touch. first time hearing this, really good.
>
> awesome PL Soze, now you just need to mix some Slipknot in haha!!!!.  i
> do remember you like All Hope is Gone(the single.

One song does not make up for all the others.

Tom


BUZZKILL

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Oct 28, 2009, 7:25:11 PM10/28/09
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I'm just now getting into them. I wish I had heard them earlier.


Soze

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Oct 28, 2009, 7:39:57 PM10/28/09
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"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 8:29 am, PrimeTime-...@webtv.net (p t) wrote:

> cool tom, i figured you did. i never go on BM.

> It is not going to hurt you.

I look on Blabbermouth at least once a day...generally it`s the first thing
I do every time I go to the computer!

> feel like crap as well, still listening to Overkill, Artillery and
> Kreator tho. probably throw in some Testament later.
>
> yesterday
>
> Marduk-WW
> Leaves Eyes-Njord, pretty good
> GD-The Toxic Touch. first time hearing this, really good.
>
> awesome PL Soze, now you just need to mix some Slipknot in haha!!!!. i
> do remember you like All Hope is Gone(the single.

> One song does not make up for all the others.

I`ve liked the odd Slipknot song here and there but not enough to really
remember what the songs are called. That one song in particular is great
though.


Soze

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Oct 28, 2009, 7:40:12 PM10/28/09
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"Bomber" <bom...@bomber.bomb> wrote in message
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I`m massively impressed with it.


audiophile

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Oct 28, 2009, 9:59:14 PM10/28/09
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On Oct 28, 4:53 pm, "BUZZKILL" <watuziNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> tom_...@juno.com wrote:
> > On Oct 26, 6:49 pm, "BUZZKILL" <watuziNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> tom_...@juno.com wrote:
>
> >>> PT-The Incident
>
> >> Thoughts?
>
> >   I think it's a pretty impressive album. I don't know what else to
> > say.
>
> I don't know if it's as good as Deadwing or In Absentia or not but I haven't
> listened to it enough times yet.  What are your favorite PT albums/songs?

Deadwing and Sky Moves Sideways.

e.
--
it's a fairly close race, though

p t

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Oct 28, 2009, 10:09:23 PM10/28/09
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i didn't say anything against BM tom, just that i don't check it out.

the Slipknot comment was a joke, i know nobody likes them besides me(in
here or AMS). just curious tom, how many SK songs have you heard to
judge their entire catalog? Iowa is a great album btw.

p t

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Oct 28, 2009, 10:17:16 PM10/28/09
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i may have heard Defiance, maybe i will look them up later.

Soze

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Oct 29, 2009, 7:09:06 AM10/29/09
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"p t" <PrimeT...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I`ve given Tom Slipknot songs to check out before, he seems to have a
complete mental block with them...a trendy band the kids like so he just
doesn`t want to have anything to do with them! I remember him lumping them
in with a load of commercial bands before and saying they`re a radio band or
something which is miles off base...they make a right old racket at times. I
just don`t like what they do.


p t

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Oct 29, 2009, 8:36:53 AM10/29/09
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SK has had alot of radio play with the last two albums(at least where i
am), and you can pick up their t-shirts at hot topic(rock/metal store
for teens at the mall). i don't hold it against a band when they make
some coin.

Mastodon put out their best album this year, and are getting radio
play, good for them. i saw them last Sat., there was maybe 400 people
in attendance, that's all the proof that the general public are
assclowns. i was like a kid on Xmas with them doing all of CtS.

audiophile

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Oct 29, 2009, 7:53:18 PM10/29/09
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They did *all* of CtS?

Very nice.

e.
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would kill to hear all of remission

p t

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Oct 29, 2009, 9:24:31 PM10/29/09
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ya CtS start to finish and a four song encore(a few off R :) that would
be badazz!!! audio.

tom.m...@gmail.com

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:27:03 PM11/3/09
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> >> I don't know if it's as good as Deadwing or In Absentia or not but I
> >> haven't listened to it enough times yet. What are your favorite PT
> >> albums/songs?
>
> >   It's so hard to pick. I like a lot of their songs/albums.
>
> I'm just now getting into them.  I wish I had heard them earlier.

I can say that about a lot of bands.

Tom

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:28:56 PM11/3/09
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I can't say for sure. I never really looked for their songs.

Tom

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:30:09 PM11/3/09
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On Oct 29, 5:09 am, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> I`ve given Tom Slipknot songs to check out before, he seems to have a
> complete mental block with them...a trendy band the kids like so he just
> doesn`t want to have anything to do with them! I remember him lumping them
> in with a load of commercial bands before and saying they`re a radio band or
> something which is miles off base...they make a right old racket at times. I
> just don`t like what they do.

Right old racket? I don't know. I just don't really remember much.

Tom

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Nov 5, 2009, 8:59:09 AM11/5/09
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On Oct 28, 5:39 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> > cool tom, i figured you did. i never go on BM.
> >  It is not going to hurt you.
>
> I look on Blabbermouth at least once a day...generally it`s the first thing
> I do every time I go to the computer!

I would have thought that you'd hit the swimsuit model pages first.

Tom

That does not mean BN in a speedo.

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Nov 5, 2009, 8:59:59 AM11/5/09
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On Oct 28, 7:59 pm, audiophile <audiophi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I don't know if it's as good as Deadwing or In Absentia or not but I haven't
> > listened to it enough times yet.  What are your favorite PT albums/songs?
>
> Deadwing and Sky Moves Sideways.
>
> e.
> --
> it's a fairly close race, though

I have not actually heard SMS, but DW is a CD I have gave at least
100 listens or more.

Tom

Love that album

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On Oct 28, 8:17 pm, PrimeTime-...@webtv.net (p t) wrote:

> i may have heard Defiance, maybe i will look them up later.    

It's old school thrash. I just listened to it. I like it a good deal
off one listen.

Tom

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Nov 5, 2009, 9:03:07 AM11/5/09
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I would love to see them play the whole album. That would rule.
It's still there for AotY, with Amorphis and PT looking like the
competition at this moment (based on how much I feel like I have to
listen to these albums. Which has been a lot.

Tom


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Nov 5, 2009, 9:10:22 AM11/5/09
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On Oct 28, 8:29 am, PrimeTime-...@webtv.net (p t) wrote:
> cool tom, i figured you did.  i never go on BM.  

> Leaves Eyes-Njord, pretty good

They released a ep at the same time, and between the two I find I
like the EP more. I like the acoustic Scarbourgh Fair better than the
heavier one on the main CD. I also feel like about 3 of the songs on
the main album are just too much like some Nightwish songs in feel
than I want this band to do. I do like the song My Destiny a good
deal. What I wanted to hear is a bit more grunting vocals for contrast
on this. I will have to make it through the main album a few more
times though. I sort of feel like it's lessor than Vinland Saga,
though.

PL this morning

Defiance-The Prophecy
Epica-Design Your Universe

Only music I've really listened to since last week.

Tom

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On Nov 5, 8:10 am, "tom_...@juno.com" <tom.madm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Epica-Design Your Universe

This one lyric got me.

"It's not your time
You have to go back"

Tom


p t

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:14:30 PM11/6/09
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Winger-Karma(new cd) and i love it
Slayer-WPB
Nile-TwtgD(really good)


i have a pile of new(and some old) stuff to get to including Epica.


tom.m...@gmail.com

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:53:40 PM11/6/09
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Truth be told, I didn't know Winger was still around as a band. I'd
thought they'd split up and the singer went solo.
You may like the Epica, it is 75 minutes long, though.

Tom

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:27:07 AM11/7/09
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You might find this hard to believe Tom, but I've had the new Epica
for like a month now and I actually like it sometimes.


p t

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Nov 7, 2009, 1:01:28 PM11/7/09
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Winger put out a new album in 06(their first since 94), and they
toured(got to see them yay!!). Kip has done solo stuff, which sounds
nothing like Winger. i know some in here like the new Kiss etc., so the
new Winger would work for some.

Karma will be high on my 09 list, i know i will catch shit for it :)

i have the last Epica cd, so i knew it would be long(plus the x's are
listed on the back cover), might get to it today.

kev...@gmail.com

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Nov 7, 2009, 3:25:01 PM11/7/09
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I remember hating this band, but for the life of me can't remember any
of their songs. This is probably a good thing, but maybe not. What
is something they did?


tom.m...@gmail.com

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On Nov 7, 9:27 am, "kev...@gmail.com" <kev...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > You may like the Epica, it is 75 minutes long, though.
>
> > Tom
>
> You might find this hard to believe Tom, but I've had the new Epica
> for like a month now and I actually like it sometimes.

I thought you sort of soured on that type stuff. (beauty and beast
vocals).
I just heard it for the first time a couple days ago. I am going to
have to reserve judgment on this for a while, I think. Maybe after I
get back to work. Hopefully next week.

Tom

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On Nov 7, 12:01 pm, PrimeTime-...@webtv.net (p t) wrote:

> i have the last Epica cd, so i knew it would be long(plus the x's are
> listed on the back cover), might get to it today.  

I usually don't pay any attention to the overall length of the
album. As it's only a problem when an album "feels" too long, or
several songs.
The previous Epica album (the Divine Conspiracy) is an album I took
to right away, and usually hear about weekly.

Tom

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:15:10 PM11/7/09
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I assume you mean Winger. Surely you remember "she's only
seventeen". I can't remember many of their song titles off hand. I
didn't really care for them much.

Tom


Ritchie

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Nov 7, 2009, 7:28:52 PM11/7/09
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I believ he means Epica

kev...@gmail.com

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:20:55 PM11/7/09
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no I meant Winger. I forgot what they did. I like Epica from what
I've heard (only their recent cd)

Ritchie

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> I've heard (only their recent cd)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sorry I misunderstood. I just figured everyone knew of Winger since
they were plastered all over the place with their "She's Only
Seventeen" video.

kev...@gmail.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:41:42 AM11/8/09
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I remember them, but couldn't remember which terrible band from the
80's they were.


tom.m...@gmail.com

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On Nov 7, 6:28 pm, Ritchie <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   I assume you mean Winger. Surely you remember "she's only
> > seventeen". I can't remember many of their song titles off hand. I
> > didn't really care for them much.
>
> > Tom
>
> I believ he means Epica

I thought that for a second, but he previously posted this.

"You might find this hard to believe Tom, but I've had the new Epica
for like a month now and I actually like it sometimes."

Which would say this is not about Epica

" I remember hating this band, but for the life of me can't remember
any
of their songs. This is probably a good thing, but maybe not. What
is something they did? "

I guess I could be proved wrong. I do remember you saying a friend
gave you the previous Epica CD, did you ever find and give a listen?

Tom

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On Nov 7, 8:20 pm, "kev...@gmail.com" <kev...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Tom
>
> > I believ he means Epica
>
> no I meant Winger.  I forgot what they did.  I like Epica from what
> I've heard (only their recent cd)

I can't state again, how much I liked the previous album The Divine
Conspiracy. The new one is growing on me, but it's not been an instant
like of it, as the previous album was.

Tom

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On Nov 8, 4:13 am, Ritchie <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > no I meant Winger.  I forgot what they did.  I like Epica from what
> > I've heard (only their recent cd)- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Sorry I misunderstood. I just figured everyone knew of Winger since
> they were plastered all over the place with their "She's Only
> Seventeen" video.

That and at least 3 or 4 other videos from those days. I can't
remember the titles as I usually ignored them. My younger brother
liked them a good deal, though.
I almost hate to admit it, but one of the concerts I saw years ago
(probably 20 now) was Cinderella/Winger/Bullet Boys. As I have said,
few rock bands ever play here, and when there's a concert, you go or
never see concerts without a long drive.
Which I am not so sure I can do so much anymore.

Tom


Tom

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On Nov 8, 8:41 am, "kev...@gmail.com" <kev...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Sorry I misunderstood. I just figured everyone knew of Winger since
> > they were plastered all over the place with their "She's Only
> > Seventeen" video.
>
> I remember them, but couldn't remember which terrible band from the
> 80's they were.

Well, yeah, since there is so many of them.

Tom

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On Nov 7, 6:28 pm, Ritchie <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Tom
>
> I believ he means Epica

Still listening to the Slayer album any?

Tom

poke

Ritchie

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Nov 8, 2009, 11:22:33 AM11/8/09
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A couple of times, which is a miracle for me. I am listening to the
new Epica a lot though

kev...@gmail.com

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I need to seek out the last one. I like their new one.

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On Nov 8, 10:22 am, Ritchie <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Tom
>
> > poke
>
> A couple of times, which is a miracle for me. I am listening to the
> new Epica a lot though

I didn't know you liked Epica. I think I just finished my 4th or 5th
listen to it at home, which I don't often listen to any music at home.
But been off work, so not much else to do.
\

Tom

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On Nov 8, 12:11 pm, "kev...@gmail.com" <kev...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   I can't state again, how much I liked the previous album The Divine
> > Conspiracy. The new one is growing on me, but it's not been an instant
> > like of it, as the previous album was.
>
> > Tom
>
> I need to seek out the last one.  I like their new one.

A lot of the songs are up on You Tube.

Tom


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On Nov 8, 10:15 am, "tom_...@juno.com" <tom.madm...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have to admit that I've somewhat come around on the new AIC. I'm not
crazy about the entire album, but a few songs have really stuck with
me.

I'm really mellowing out in my old age.

e.
--
"i amuse myself in my very own private hell"
- alice in chains

Ritchie

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On Nov 8, 2:27 pm, audiophile <audiophi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 10:15 am, "tom_...@juno.com" <tom.madm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 7, 8:20 pm, "kev...@gmail.com" <kev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Tom
>
> > > > I believ he means Epica
>
> > > no I meant Winger.  I forgot what they did.  I like Epica from what
> > > I've heard (only their recent cd)
>
> >   I can't state again, how much I liked the previous album The Divine
> > Conspiracy. The new one is growing on me, but it's not been an instant
> > like of it, as the previous album was.
>
> I have to admit that I've somewhat come around on the new AIC. I'm not
> crazy about the entire album, but a few songs have really stuck with
> me.

Maybe I should give it another listen then. I D/L it and listened to
it twice and couldn't get into it at all.

Soze

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All I remember of Winger is the dweeb kid that Beavis and Butthead used to
bully always had a Winger t-shirt on.


p t

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that sucked Soze :), i mentioned that awhile ago. Stewart should have
wore a Trixter or Nelson T haha!!!

i do find it comical that, peeps in here like the latest Lacuna Coil,
Epica(any band of that ilk), and Kamelot but trash 80's bands.

Bomber

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"p t" <PrimeT...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Speaking of 80's Thrash bands, I just saw Sacrifice last night. I last saw
them 19 years ago. Still awesome.


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On Nov 8, 3:41 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> >I remember them, but couldn't remember which terrible band from the
> >80's they were.
>
> All I remember of Winger is the dweeb kid that Beavis and Butthead used to
> bully always had a Winger t-shirt on.

Yep. A lot of people took that to heart. Of course a lot of bands
who hadn't got airplay, got some on that, and some sold a lot more
records than they would have otherwise.
It would be nice if some bands could get that sort of airplay
today.

Tom

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Oh, what, like me? I trash some 80's bands, and looking back, I
don't like many of the ones I used to like. Perhaps, God willing in
10-15 years, I'm still around, I may dislike some of these newer bands
you mention.

Tom

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On Nov 8, 4:33 pm, "Bomber" <bom...@bomber.bomb> wrote:
>
> Speaking of 80's Thrash bands, I just saw Sacrifice last night. I last saw
> them 19 years ago. Still awesome.

You went to a concert in diapers?

Tom

Poke

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On Nov 8, 1:27 pm, audiophile <audiophi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have to admit that I've somewhat come around on the new AIC. I'm not
> crazy about the entire album, but a few songs have really stuck with
> me.
>
> I'm really mellowing out in my old age.
>
> e.
> --
> "i amuse myself in my very own private hell"
> - alice in chains

I haven't heard it yet, but I guess people in large part have
accepted the new singer. Can't get Layne back, so I guess this will
have to do or something.

Tom

Ian, check the all time here.

Soze

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I take exception to this...I think all 3 of those bands are shit!


Soze

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>Tom

What is all time??


p t

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the " peeps " know who they are Soze. i take exception to your comment
:), i like those bands.

that's cool you got to see a good show Bomber. i have only heard a few
songs by them. if their catalog wasn't so pricey, i would check them
out. is The ones I condemn their last cd? what do you think of it?

p t

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speaking of 80's bands and such, the new Lynch Mob is really good also.

the last thing i wanna say on this is, Tom you seem annoyed that these
bands made $$$ and sold albums back in the day. i get some of you don't
like these bands, but spare me the " terrible " label. alot of these
bands were/are very talented, and created a ton of quality RocknRoll.
it's like Vince Neil said, we all know life sucks, so why do i wanna
sing about it, why not have fun. i laugh when people talk shit about VH
and Kiss(both who obv. inspired alot of 80's bands), two great party
time RnR bands.

Reb Beach and George Lynch are guitar Gods :)

Bomber

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Ya, that's their latest. I think it fits perfectly after Soldiers Of
Misfortune.


Bomber

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You don't have to miss the show by leaving to go to the can. How are the
adult diapers in comparison by the way?


audiophile

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On Nov 8, 8:05 pm, "Bomber" <bom...@bomber.bomb> wrote:
> "p t" <PrimeTime-...@webtv.net> wrote in message

SoM is one of the most underrated thrash records in the 80's IMO.

e.
--
it's no forward to termination, but it's DAMN good

audiophile

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Cantrell has really taken over as lead vocalist. The new guy isn't
remotely in Staley's league.

I accept this album as a good AIC cover band, with a few really good
songs.

But who knows if it will stand the test of time. I doubt it will.

e.
--
amusing for now, though

audiophile

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I'm actually with pt on this. There's some damn good glam out there.

Sex, drugs and rock&roll lifestyle is no worse than serial killers,
nazis, pseudo-philosophy and burning churches. It's all childish and
puerile, and it's all metal.

It doesn't hurt that most of those guys could actually play their
instruments too.

:)

e.
--
Taste the love of lucifer's magic
That makes you numb
The passion and all the pain are one
You're sleeping in the fire
- W.A.S.P

Bomber

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The Sacrifice back catalogue is $16.99 U.S each on their website. Of course
shipping is $8. You can always download them to see if it's worth it to
purchace. Youtube probably has all their songs as well.


This is from last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whi7aCmS0zo


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On Nov 8, 5:26 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> >  I haven't heard it yet, but I guess people in large part >have
> >accepted the new singer. Can't get Layne back, so I >guess this will
> >have to do or something.
> >Tom
> >Ian, check the all time here.
>
> What is all time??

The all time posting on this newsgroup.

Tom

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On Nov 8, 6:23 pm, PrimeTime-...@webtv.net (p t) wrote:
> speaking of 80's bands and such, the new Lynch Mob is really good also.  
>
> the last thing i wanna say on this is, Tom you seem annoyed that these
> bands made $$$ and sold albums back in the day.

I don't have a problem with that. Some of the bands, the songs
didn't age well, that's all. And now, some 20-25 years later I just
don't feel like I want, or need to hear them all that much.

> i get some of you don't
> like these bands, but spare me the " terrible " label.   alot of these
> bands were/are very talented, and created a ton of quality RocknRoll.
> it's like Vince Neil said, we all know life sucks, so why do i wanna
> sing about it, why not have fun.  i laugh when people talk shit about VH
> and Kiss(both who obv. inspired alot of 80's bands), two great party
> time RnR bands.      
>
> Reb Beach and George Lynch are guitar Gods :)

I don't deny that. I've never denied that.

Tom

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On Nov 8, 7:09 pm, "Bomber" <bom...@bomber.bomb> wrote:

> > Speaking of 80's Thrash bands, I just saw Sacrifice last night. I last saw
> > them 19 years ago. Still awesome.
> >  You went to a concert in diapers?
>
> >Tom
>
> >Poke
>
> You don't have to miss the show by leaving to go to the can. How are the
> adult diapers in comparison by the way?

They're fine. I recommend them.

Tom

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I thought the new guy was to be the main singer. What else does he
do if Cantrell is the main vocalist?

Tom

Soze

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Seems you`ve posted around 4 times more than anyone else...which is no
surprise! I`m next but then I`ve never changed my email address in about 13
years whereas others have.


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On Nov 9, 6:54 am, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> > What is all time??
> >The all time posting on this newsgroup.
>
> Seems you`ve posted around 4 times more than anyone else...which is no
> surprise! I`m next but then I`ve never changed my email address in about 13
> years whereas others have.

I mean the all time, not the monthly. I just passed you, and now
have the top 3 held down for all time on this group. I doubt I will
ever catch you on AMS, though.
That should be worth a TFP or 2.

Tom

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On Nov 8, 10:22 am, Ritchie <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   Still listening to the Slayer album any?
>
> > Tom
>
> > poke
>
> A couple of times, which is a miracle for me. I am listening to the
> new Epica a lot though

I find that this album is rising in my opinion. I also find her
vocals adorable on this and the previous album. I also like that they
have kept the growling vocals for contrast, and I like that they have
kept the speedy DM drummer from God Dethroned. That they have added
more guitar solos and such probably helps you.

Tom

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On Nov 8, 5:25 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> > i do find it comical that, peeps in here like the latest Lacuna Coil,
> > Epica(any band of that ilk), and Kamelot but trash 80's bands.
>
> I take exception to this...I think all 3 of those bands are shit!

Shit is a strong word. I like the fact these bands have melody in
their music, and I really enjoy many of the songs they write. Sure,
they're not blood and guts metal, but I don't need all bands to be
that. When I want B&G type music, I'll grab some Thrash, DM or some
Trad metal.

Tom

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On Nov 8, 5:56 pm, PrimeTime-...@webtv.net (p t) wrote:

> the " peeps " know who they are Soze.  i take exception to your comment
> :), i like those bands.  

The peeps here is pretty much me. I am about the only one who has
stated my dislike of "hair metal" and that I think it's aged badly.
And yeah, I sort of say most of it is "radio rock" or "hard rock" and
not really metal.
You could say JP is a metal band, but you can't say Turbo is metal,
and nor PoE.

Tom

Soze

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Besides Twisted Sister and WASP I don`t like hair metal at all. And I think
both of those bands are more straight up heavy metal than what it generally
perceive as hair metal anyway. The only TS album which really falls into the
hair metal category sonically is the last one.

Do I hate it? It certainly does nothing for me and used to irritate me back
in the day but nowadays I don`t get worked up about music I don`t
like...each to their own. And hell, it as such a long time ago now!


Soze

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"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That`s what I looked at...altogether you had something like 18,000 posts to
my three thousaand odd. As I said, just from the top 10 Kev has more than me
with both email addresses combined. Not sure what this proves other than
that we have a lot of time on our hands!!


Dennis Mullinax

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Hirax - El Rostro De La Muerte
While Heaven Wept - Vast Oceans Lachrymose

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On Nov 9, 10:12 am, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Besides Twisted Sister and WASP I don`t like hair metal at all. And I think
> both of those bands are more straight up heavy metal than what it generally
> perceive as hair metal anyway. The only TS album which really falls into the
> hair metal category sonically is the last one.
>
> Do I hate it? It certainly does nothing for me and used to irritate me back
> in the day but nowadays I don`t get worked up about music I don`t
> like...each to their own. And hell, it as such a long time ago now!

I can't comment on TS so much, only heard their big few hits for the
most part, and We're not going to Take it to me is sort of party
anthem sort of song, as is the other big hit I can't remember the
title for.
As for WASP, they did have some sort of party songs, but yeah,
otherwise Traditional type metal for the most part.
I don't hate 80's hair metal, for the record I did buy a lot of
those albums and listened a lot back then, I just think some of the
songs didn't age well, and many of the bands had to put out those
power ballads, sometimes a few on one album, that after a few albums
they had so many "hit power ballads" that they had to play that they
had less time for the harder rocking songs.
So, in final, I don't feel much need to listen to those albums very
often. As Ian said, it's a long time ago.

Tom

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On Nov 9, 10:14 am, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> >That should be worth a TFP or 2.
>
> That`s what I looked at...altogether you had something like 18,000 posts to
> my three thousaand odd. As I said, just from the top 10 Kev has more than me
> with both email addresses combined. Not sure what this proves other than
> that we have a lot of time on our hands!!

Yeah, that's a lot of time sitting in front of a computer when I
could have been doing something else. Sure takes a different light
after recent medical things.

Tom

Soze

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"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 9, 10:12 am, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Besides Twisted Sister and WASP I don`t like hair metal at all. And I
> think
> both of those bands are more straight up heavy metal than what it
> generally
> perceive as hair metal anyway. The only TS album which really falls into
> the
> hair metal category sonically is the last one.
>
> Do I hate it? It certainly does nothing for me and used to irritate me
> back
> in the day but nowadays I don`t get worked up about music I don`t
> like...each to their own. And hell, it as such a long time ago now!

> I can't comment on TS so much, only heard their big few hits for the
>most part, and We're not going to Take it to me is sort of party
>anthem sort of song, as is the other big hit I can't remember the
>title for.

Check out stuff like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFkrxqvB53c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJetyDxcZGc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL3C_eAtlS0

It was as hard and heavy as anything around at the time IMO.



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On Nov 9, 7:00 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

Not sure I have heard this before. Seems a lot less commercial than
the songs I remember.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJetyDxcZGc

I've not heard this either.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL3C_eAtlS0

> It was as hard and heavy as anything around at the time IMO.

Pretty much. It wouldn't be long though, before something harder,
heavier and faster would come.

Tom

Soze

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"tom...@juno.com" <tom.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJetyDxcZGc

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL3C_eAtlS0

Well this was my point...TS do often get lumped in with that hair metal
commercial crowd but musically they didn`t suit it at all. In 1982-83 they
kicked ass as hard as anyone. Even the Stay Hungry album only had those 2
famous songs on it. The rest was pretty hard and heavy stuff.


Ritchie

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On Nov 9, 8:00 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> "tom_...@juno.com" <tom.madm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> It was as hard and heavy as anything around at the time IMO.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I still love and listen toTwisted Sister!

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On Nov 10, 7:40 pm, "Soze" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> >  Pretty much. It wouldn't be long though, before something harder,
> >heavier and faster would come.
>
> Well this was my point...TS do often get lumped in with that hair metal
> commercial crowd but musically they didn`t suit it at all. In 1982-83 they
> kicked ass as hard as anyone. Even the Stay Hungry album only had those 2
> famous songs on it. The rest was pretty hard and heavy stuff.

I just didn't remember that. I believe I had heard at least one of
their albums, but it was probably 1984-85. And I just haven't heard
them since. Just the famous songs.

Tom

BUZZKILL

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tom...@juno.com wrote:
>>>>> PT-The Incident
>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>
>>> I think it's a pretty impressive album. I don't know what else to
>>> say.
>>
>> I don't know if it's as good as Deadwing or In Absentia or not but I
>> haven't listened to it enough times yet. What are your favorite PT
>> albums/songs?
>
> It's so hard to pick. I like a lot of their songs/albums.

Have you heard Voyage 34? It's one piece of music divided into 4 movements.
It's mostly instrumental, and fucking awesome. It starts out as a rock
song, morphs into a trancy electronic song, then devolves into ambience.
Incredible.


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On Nov 13, 3:04 pm, "BUZZKILL" <watuziNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >   It's so hard to pick. I like a lot of their songs/albums.
>
> Have you heard Voyage 34?  It's one piece of music divided into 4 movements.
> It's mostly instrumental, and fucking awesome.  It starts out as a rock
> song, morphs into a trancy electronic song, then devolves into ambience.
> Incredible.

I believe that's on the 2CD retrospective (Stars Die) I have. Yeah,
I did give that a lot of listens (both CD's)

Tom

BUZZKILL

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Stars Die only has Phase One on it. My favorite part is Phase Three.


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On Nov 13, 8:38 pm, "BUZZKILL" <watuziNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >> Have you heard Voyage 34? It's one piece of music divided into 4
> >> movements. It's mostly instrumental, and fucking awesome. It starts
> >> out as a rock song, morphs into a trancy electronic song, then
> >> devolves into ambience. Incredible.
>
> >   I believe that's on the 2CD retrospective (Stars Die) I have. Yeah,
> > I did give that a lot of listens (both CD's)
>
> Stars Die only has Phase One on it.  My favorite part is Phase Three.

Unfortunate, but I have not filled out the catalog.

Tom

It's been an eventful year, to say the least.

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