Re: Christian music
Musician
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, "Jan Baranowski" <j.bar...@vp.pl> wrote:
>Hello,
>I'm interested in spreading christianity in new ways , and I thought about
>christian music. Nowadays there existe diffrent sorts of christian music
>like christian rock or hip hop. Which one is the best to make children in
>age of 16 interested in christianity? I don't know witch music do the
>exactly are now listening to but I think it's some kind of hip hop.
> Greetings
> Jan B.
My personal favorite is Bach. Children love Bach. I know I did as a child.
And I still do, as much now as ever.
Musician
Ioannis
If more children, teenagers and adults were listening to Bach, the world would
be a better place.
Wait, not just "a better place". Make that "Heaven".
> Musician
--
Ioannis --- "There's _always_ a mistake, somewhere."
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
Bach, Beethoven, Gounod, Faure, Vaughan-Williams, Randall Thompson, any
of the English composers of choral music recorded by King's College -
just stay away from the alleged "Contemporary Christian" crap that
supplies more-or-less religious text to basically "pop" music! There
was a time when composers strove to give the BEST of their talent to
God, in the form of devotional music. (Maybe that "best" wasn't always
very good, but it certainly surpassed most of what comprises
Contemporary Christian "music" nowadays!)
Walter Bushell
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Marshall McLuhan what are they doing. In this case of "Contemporary
Christian" the music is the massage.
John W Kennedy
> Bach, Beethoven, Gounod, Faure, Vaughan-Williams, Randall Thompson, any
> of the English composers of choral music recorded by King's College -
> just stay away from the alleged "Contemporary Christian" crap that
> supplies more-or-less religious text to basically "pop" music! There was
> a time when composers strove to give the BEST of their talent to God, in
> the form of devotional music. (Maybe that "best" wasn't always very
> good, but it certainly surpassed most of what comprises Contemporary
> Christian "music" nowadays!)
If you can sincerely recommend that oafish vulgarian, Gounod, it puts
the remainder of your opinion into serious question.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
"Oafish vulgarian" or not, his music (even the religious portion) is far
superior to anything touted as "Contemporary Christian" music nowadays!!!!
John W Kennedy
Gounod's religious music is the equivalent of a painting of Jesus
crucified between two kittens on black velvet.
--
John W. Kennedy
"The people who hanged Christ never, to do them justice, accused him of
being a bore--on the contrary, they thought him too dynamic to be safe.
It has been left for later generations to muffle up that shattering
personality and surround him with an atmosphere of tedium. We have very
efficiently pared the claws of the Lion of Judah, certified him 'meek
and mild,' and recommended him as a fitting household pet for pale
curates and pious old ladies."
-- Dorothy L. Sayers
Mack A. Damia
A wonderful time to begin is Easter with Handel's Messiah. When you
get to the Halleluja chorus, you can tell children that Handel worked
feverishly for twenty-five hours alone in his room, and at the end,
came out holding the music of which he said, "I thought I saw the face
of God".
Other arias, etc. taken from verses of the Bible.
Next year....
--
mad
Walter Bushell
John W Kennedy <jwk...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> On 4/12/09 4:44 PM, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> >
> >
> > John W Kennedy wrote:
> >> On 4/9/09 4:14 PM, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> >>> Bach, Beethoven, Gounod, Faure, Vaughan-Williams, Randall Thompson, any
> >>> of the English composers of choral music recorded by King's College -
> >>> just stay away from the alleged "Contemporary Christian" crap that
> >>> supplies more-or-less religious text to basically "pop" music! There was
> >>> a time when composers strove to give the BEST of their talent to God, in
> >>> the form of devotional music. (Maybe that "best" wasn't always very
> >>> good, but it certainly surpassed most of what comprises Contemporary
> >>> Christian "music" nowadays!)
> >>
> >> If you can sincerely recommend that oafish vulgarian, Gounod, it puts
> >> the remainder of your opinion into serious question.
> >
> > "Oafish vulgarian" or not, his music (even the religious portion) is far
> > superior to anything touted as "Contemporary Christian" music nowadays!!!!
>
> Gounod's religious music is the equivalent of a painting of Jesus
> crucified between two kittens on black velvet.
Crucified kittens, that would be kitty p0rn.
Mike
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, "Jan Baranowski" <j.barans...@vp.pl> wrote:
> >Hello,
> >I'm interested in spreading christianity in new ways , and I thought about
> >christian music. Nowadays there existe diffrent sorts of christian music
> >like christian rock or hip hop. Which one is the best to make children in
> >age of 16 interested in christianity? I don't know witch music do the
> >exactly are now listening to but I think it's some kind of hip hop.
First, this place is supposed to be about classical music. Second,
the thought of using music to brainwash young people into corrosive
superstition just about makes me gag.
Barry Gray
> the thought of using music to brainwash young people into corrosive
> superstition just about makes me gag.
Actually it's supposed to be about Bach, a Lutheran, and whether you
yourself are a Christian or not you cannot listen to or understand
Bach if you dismiss Christianity as a corrosive superstition.
--
Barry Gray
http://www.barrygray.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
A child is a fire to be lit not a vessel to be filled
YDOD
but there is no reason why an atheist cannot appreciate his music as much as
any other human any more than say a christian cannot admire the beauty and
workmanship of a mosque. They are both wonderful examples of human endeavor
no matter what inspired them.
"Barry Gray" <barr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Barry Gray
"YDOD" <walke...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> This is nonsense. There is no doubt of the importance of religion to Bach
> but there is no reason why an atheist cannot appreciate his music as much as
> any other human any more than say a christian cannot admire the beauty and
> workmanship of a mosque. They are both wonderful examples of human endeavor
> no matter what inspired them.
> "Barry Gray" <barr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> First, this place is supposed to be about classical music. Second,
>>> the thought of using music to brainwash young people into corrosive
>>> superstition just about makes me gag.
>>
>>
>> Actually it's supposed to be about Bach, a Lutheran, and whether you
>> yourself are a Christian or not you cannot listen to or understand
>> Bach if you dismiss Christianity as a corrosive superstition.
Top posting makes this difficult to follow, but I did not say, and do
not believe, that non-Christians cannot appreciate Bach. In the same
way many non-Moslems, including myself, find Islamic art and
architecture very moving. But then I do not dismiss Islam as a
corrosive superstition.
In every generation there has been no shortage of people who regard
all, or all other, faiths as superstitions: it is the word *corrosive*
in the OP that drew my initial comments.
YDOD
but there is no reason why an atheist cannot appreciate his music as much as
any other human any more than say a christian cannot admire the beauty and
workmanship of a mosque. They are both wonderful examples of human endeavor
no matter what inspired them.
"Barry Gray" <barr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Raveem
professional musicians had only one route in Purcell's time: through
the Church. So it was a necessary influence on even the most atheistic
of great musicians at the time. (NB: I'm not denigrating the influence
here, just stating the situation. Indeed, I'm inclined to think it was
very positive.)
Raveem.