artist direct...
Jason2885
our server can't take over 5,000 hits at the same time . it will crash.. maybe
we should just make this strictly a phone order next time , and scrap the whole
web page ordering idea ... ??
- The Genius's at Artist
Direct "
RiNkY
phoning in with their orders.. Hell - Why not even make it a US Only order
and not let any of us English order it at all ! Or maybe just release a CD
say for you and nobody else !!!!
RiNkY
Jason2885 <jaso...@aol.com> wrote in message
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VRaddict 1
David
rInKy
You were the one who said make it a phone offer... Think before you speak
next time and you won't offend people for which phoning wasn't a viable
option.... Think of us poor foreigners living in this cold wet place.. To
which CC are coming next weekend - WHOOOOO HOOOOO. Oh - Sorry, got a little
excited there :)
No offence meant - Just being a sarcastic Bas$%d as per usuall.......
RiNkY
VRaddict 1 <vrad...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Kevin Goodsell
the Revolutionary War and the Boston Tea Party and things like that.
I'm curious, by what name do British folk call that war?
-Kevin
rInKy wrote in message <393f599f$1...@news.jakinternet.co.uk>...
VRaddict 1
Their country is probably too embarrased to teach it in schools since they got
their arses kicked so bad.. Then we did it again in 1812. Needless to say
we've saved their butts since then.
David
RiNkY
Damn that throat tickles.....
I dunno what we call that war ! Shame about the wasted tea tho in Boston.
You gotta go way back to find a war where which we lost !
Like I'm really interested in arguing - Expecially on a CC Newsgroup ! I'm
moving to the USA in 6 months anyway and marrying a US women. Don't you
guys have a sense of humour ??
RiNk...
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Mark Kidd
right about back to the time when you guys stopped fighting wars
*against* the united states and started fighting on our sides...
coincidince? ;)
mark
Chris J
seen involved. What a load of horse shit. If that is what Americans think,
that the Second World War was single handedly won by themselves then I feel
for you guys, I really do. I don't want to start an argument but it takes
some nerve criticising Britain like they were sitting on the arses drinking
beer whilst hero America saved the day.
CJ
(calm down Chris, you are goin overboard a bit here)
Judi Smith
construed as that. please don't lump everyone in the US or even everyone
in this newsgroup from the US into a pile and let him speak for us.
he doesn't.
Chris J (jo...@cwcom.net) wrote:
: It is strange that in Saving Private Ryan and U571 no British people are
--
judi smith i was a fine idea at the time
jsm...@bc.seflin.org now i'm a brilliant mistake
--elvis costello
would you catch me if i was falling?
kiss me if i was leaving?
hold me cause i'm lonely without you?
--cc
Chris J
"Judi Smith" <jsm...@bc.seflin.org> wrote in message
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Kevin Goodsell
was about an American sub and a German sub. Why should there be Brits in it?
I never saw Saving... though.
-Kevin
Chris J wrote in message ...
RiNkY
the ride to help us out ! Not like more of our guys actually died out there
or anythin - We were just there clearing the way for you guys to help us out
!
Saving Private Ryan is on tonight over here in the UK - Why is it in all
these American Made War films that the English guys are made out to be total
dorks ! lol....
RiNkY
Chris J
newspaper in England (although a tabloid which I'm sure I'm going to get
"plunked" for saying) criticising the film. Mainly in U571 it is made out
that the Americans captured the influential enigma device which is simply
not true. I can't imagine how many people walked out of the cinema without
seeing the message at the end thinking America saved the day again. Why
couldn't they say it was fictional at the beginning of the film and not at
the end? Why Why Why?
This ain't an attack on you Mark, but just on the film. I thought it was a
fine film, nothing special, but it just got really cheeky with its
intentions.
CJ
"Mark Kidd" <lex...@gte.net> wrote in message
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>
hrmmmmmmmmmmm...............................................................
................
> it would seem that i might have made an error here... reviews i'm
> reading don't seem to mention similar american missions. anyone have
> information from a reliable historical source about this (or know where
> i can find one)? i don't really consider movie reviews a reliable source
> ;)
>
> mark
>
> Mark Kidd wrote:
> >
> > wait wait wait
> > there *were* american missions to capture enigma devices
> > and it doesn't claim that u571 is a true story, only that it is based on
> > these historical missions
> >
> > mark
> >
> > James wrote:
> > >
> > > I expect the filmakers to be resonsible. If they say a story is a
> > > factual one, it should be. If they took a story and completely changed
> > > major things such as the nationality of the army and the significance
> > > of the act, they shouldn't tell the viewing public that it is true.
> > > They shouldn't even mention that anything like that happened, let
> > > alone claim that the movie is about it. What you should have said was:
> > > what is it you EXPECT from american filmmakers? They have a history of
> > > changing facts so they can have movies about americans and movies that
> > > glorify americans. It's happened in movies before and I can bet it
> > > will happen again...and again and again.
> > >
> > > -James-
> > >
> > > On 11 Jun 2000 16:38:35 GMT, jsm...@bc.seflin.org (Judi Smith) wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >i'm sorry, what is it you EXPECT from american filmmakers? don't
british
> > > >filmmakers use .... british people?
Mark Kidd
just don't figure that many people would leave the theatre before they
show... (I could be wrong, and this may be very dependent on region) I
don't recall a significant number of people leaving the theatre until
after the message showed on the screen
ah well. i have a feeling that cinema in a lot of countries do this.
time to ponder cinema from communist/dictatorial/facist nations? i find
it hard to believe that american would be the only country to put an
american slant on fictive characters and plots though i admit my
exposure to foreign films is (by necessity) very limited in scope
Mark Kidd
token Americans, is 'rediculous' while if the forementioned American
films are that way it's a nationlistic bias? ;)
Judi Smith wrote:
>
> are you suggesting armageddon and independence day and men in black are
> supposed to be something OTHER than "ridiculous" like james bond?
>
> p.s. i thought james bond flicks were US-made anyway.
>
> Toby A Inkster Esq (counti...@goddamn.co.ukNOSPAM) wrote:
> : Apart from "James Bond", no-one really does "saving the world" type
> : movies any more, except America.
>
> : And Bond is supposed to be ridiculous anyway - hence all the puns and
> : plots about people with steal jaws and diamond tipped hats, etc...
>
> : Judi Smith wrote:
>
> : >
> : >i'm sorry, what is it you EXPECT from american filmmakers? don't british
> : >filmmakers use .... british people?
> : >
> : >Chris J (jo...@cwcom.net) wrote:
> : >: Now I can banter about many blockbuster films where America is seen the
> : >: saviour of the world. Armageddon, Independence Day, Deep Impact. All these
> : >: films have America saving the day with maybe a token Russian just to even it
> : >: out. Sure, they are completely fictional pieces of work almost manufactured
> : >: to attract the mass audience but this proves my point as to how the bias
> : >: towards Americans from Americans is reflected in their films, to an extent
> : >: in changing the paths of history. Once again, I am not saying this is true
> : >: with all Americans, and this could easily verge on a prejudice against them.
> : >: I am just trying to show that this happens a lot and becomes *very*
> : >: annoying. How I got here in the first place makes me wonder though?
> : >
> : >: CJ
> : >: "Greg Katsoulis" <Gr...@Katsoulis.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> : >: news:3942DD6C...@Katsoulis.demon.co.uk...
> : >: > Hi
> : >: >
> : >: > I havent seen U-571 or private ryan - I wouldnt mind though - but I have
> : >: to admit
> : >: > there is a bias towards america.
> : >: > Understandable when the bigest intake of revenue would probably be from
> : >: america.
> : >: >
> : >: > A movie is all about the 'feel-good factor' hence the conditioning to
> : >: american
> : >: > audiences.
> : >: > I'm Scottish so I personally dont care that much for the english side of
> : >: things
> : >: > ;-)
> : >: > However the CHEESIEST thing I have ever seen regarding the brittish was in
> : >: > Independance day when the english were portayed as a group of toffs
> : >: sitting in a
> : >: > dessert in the noon-day sun drinking tea and waiting for the americans to
> : >: come up
> : >: > with a masterplan.
> : >: > now that was fun.
> : >: > Although, I'm curious as to how Scots would have been portrayed.
> : >: > Would we have been trying to knock them out of the skies with our caber
> : >: tossing
> : >: > antics?????
> : >: > ;-)
> : >: >
> : >: > G
> : >: >
> : >: >
> : >: >
> : >: > Mark Kidd wrote:
> : >: >
> : >: > > In U-571 i wouldn't consider that very surprising, considering your
> : >: > > three locations are:
> : >: > > 1. a US naval base
> : >: > > 2. a US submarine
> : >: > > 3. a German submarine
> : >: > > plus, you have some shots from 4. a German destroyer(?) and 5. a party
> : >: > > near a US naval base
> : >: > >
> : >: > > where exactly do the nationality of the characters slight the british in
> : >: > > these settings?
> : >: > >
> : >: > > as far as saving private ryan is concerned, i'm guessing it's just
> : >: > > because we're talking about one single (and very small) group of
> : >: > > american enlisted men traveling through the french countryside. no big
> : >: > > deal either, i'd wager. but i didn't really like either movie anyway ;)
> : >: > >
> : >: > > >I don't want to start an argument but it takes
> : >: > > > some nerve criticising Britain like they were sitting on the arses
> : >: drinking
> : >: > > > beer whilst hero America saved the day.
> : >: > >
> : >: > > i did not critizice Britain or imply that they were not involved in any
> : >: > > way. please save your nationalistic knee-jerk reactions where they are
> : >: > > warrented. i made an observation, based on historical fact which you (by
> : >: > > the way) did nothing to refute. it was not a criticism, nor did it make
> : >: > > any attept to justify whatever nationalistic slant may or may not be
> : >: > > employed by american cinema.
> : >: > >
> : >: > > puh-leeze.
> : >: > >
> : >: > > mark
> : >: >
>
> : --
> : Toby A Inkster, Esq.
>
> : "If you see me coming home, turn me away,
> : Everybody tries to go back somewhere someday." -cc
>
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Jason2885
GLadiator...It's not suposed to be totally accurate historically, it's just for
entertainment !
Judi Smith
Mark Kidd (lex...@gte.net) wrote:
: that's my point. so why turn it around on us poor americans?
: Kevin Goodsell wrote:
: >
: > I like Bond, and I've never once thought that British people were being
: > cocky (or whatever it is we're being accused of) because Bond saves the
: > world.
: >
: > -Kevin
: >
: > Mark Kidd wrote in message <39451217...@gte.net>...
: > >judi has a good point here -- how come James Bond, when only containing
Mark Kidd
i thought he was saying we as in 'we the british people who are being
accused of being cocky or whatever' instead of 'we the american people
who are being accused of being cocky or whatever, unlike the british
people who get scott-free despite their james bond movies'
;)
my fault
mark
Kevin Goodsell
Summer school started today and I had to get up early. That's my excuse. ;)
-Kevin
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RiNkY
/me hides innocently in the corner
RiNkY
Toby A Inkster, Esq.
> /me hides innocently in the corner
The mark of an IRC pro...
-T