AE - next release?
Freefall*Function
i?). Extremely disappointing.
The question is, where do AE go next. I reckon further up their own arse
with the help of some extreme DSP.
I hope not. I hate all of this, we MUST sound experimental / different shit.
I think that's why AFX is taking so long with his stuff. He's scared of not
being seven miles ahead of the field.
And am i alone in thinking that almost anyone can make a lot of incoherent
cut and paster shit with a few basic pieces of software and zero creativity?
Have you heard dandy by kid 606? fucking 'ell. Hello out there? Anyone can
be an ironic electronic genuis and take apart a song. please no more v/vm et
al! Would this sort of music be attempted if it wasnt SO fucking easy?
Put it this way, if autechre continue with the (metallic hip hop beats) +
('glockenspiellly' noises) x (loads of hissy noise) divided by (some,
whoo-hoo!, like crazy breakdowns/speed differences) then we will all get
bored soon.
You know the above sentence is scarily close to the truth about AE.
I rant and rave sometimes, but fuck it I buy em, so who is the mug? Don't
get me wrong I DO love some of their stuff but since Chiastic Slide they
have boxed themselves in to a CuldeSac (sounds like a cul de sac with afrika
bambatta on acid with windchimes?).
Can they escape? I sense ae coming to an end if not.....
Heed my words! Booth and Brown.
:-)
F*F
ma...@mpashley.freeserve.co.uk
the feel of it reminds me of the lighthouse party.
Mart1 Ruyant
"Freefall*Function" <no_...@please.com> a écrit dans le message news:
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Knut Andreas Ruud
newsgroup? Or you could go into a basement somewhere and listen to tri
repetae over and over, if that's all you demand. Autechre is dedicated to
creating new, unheard music, just like tri repetae was once something
completely new. It isn't now however, so there should be plenty of wannabee
music out there that would appeal to you.
--
Knut
(maintainer of the ae faq http://www.waveform.dk/aefaq.txt)
Freefall*Function <no_...@please.com> skrev i
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Tom Johnson
> And am i alone in thinking that almost anyone can make a lot of incoherent
> cut and paster shit with a few basic pieces of software and zero
creativity?
Not entirely, I'm sure someone else out there feels like you do. I don't,
many others in here don't.
> Have you heard dandy by kid 606? fucking 'ell. Hello out there? Anyone can
> be an ironic electronic genuis and take apart a song. please no more v/vm
et
> al! Would this sort of music be attempted if it wasnt SO fucking easy?
Hmm, I think you may be looking at this wrong. First off, it's not easy to
make something good and legitimate sounding. Anyone can cut and paste shit
together, obviously, but there are those people who have a natural talent
for it and do it with an artistic slant. You may not like it, it may not
sell well, and you may not ever see anyone attempt to dance to it, but that
doesn't discount it as art. And that's what you're missing - you are
assuming that the point of all electronic music is to dance to it, and
you're wrong.
Think of it this way - maybe because their is finally an appropriate set of
instruments (ie, computers, software, etc), people are finally able to
express what is in themselves that no other instrument could before.
Chances are, there ARE a lot of people out there who don't really have much
talent, but time will be the ultimate test - they will either stop making
music of their own volition, or they will stop selling it because no one's
listening. Natural selection will win out. But those who are in it for the
art of making music will still be around - and I honestly believe AE is
truly in it for the art.
Why is afx holing himself away? I think it's because he lost sight of what
he was trying to do, and he needs to get away and rediscover what it is that
drives him to make great music. His last couple of releases were not great,
and I think he got tired of all the kids jumping on his bandwagon because of
Windowlicker and Come to Daddy. The thing that works against him is that
he's got a great sense of what's hip paired with a sense of humor, which
comes out in his music. I think a lot of people who found him in the past
couple of years thought he was just some goofy technophile making funny
noises, and they missed the point altogether. And that's what I think
caused him to stop putting music out. He seems more driven by the creative
*process* than music, and therefore probably derives more pleasure from just
*making* music and machines than from the end product He bought his castle
or whatever and is hiding himself away until he has something truly "new,"
something he cares about, to reveal to the world. And yes, I bet he will be
miles ahead of the rest of the pack again.
Here's the ironic part of your statement: you complain that anyone can churn
out this stuff without any thought, yet you're saying that RD James is so
"scared of being seven miles ahead" that he's taking a long time to do it.
See any conflict in what you said? It's either easy to make and sounds like
everyone else, or it's difficult to make and actually takes some thought to
make it unique. Which is it? It really can't be both ways.
Tom
Sma
"Freefall*Function" <no_...@please.com> wrote in message
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> I am not alone im sure in thinking that Peel Session 2 was a bit shit (am
> i?). Extremely disappointing.
Certainly not their best work, but far from being shit.
> The question is, where do AE go next. I reckon further up their own arse
Remember, PS2 was recorded in 1999. Possibly Ae have already moved on, after
all they did it before - think of the difference between say Amber and LP5.
With a new album out later in the year you'll be able to find out anyway.
> And am i alone in thinking that almost anyone can make a lot of incoherent
> cut and paster shit with a few basic pieces of software and zero
creativity?
> Have you heard dandy by kid 606? fucking 'ell. Hello out there? Anyone can
> be an ironic electronic genuis and take apart a song. please no more v/vm
et
> al! Would this sort of music be attempted if it wasnt SO fucking easy?
I think Tom has pretty much covered this, but yes there is a lot of ironic
electronic crap out there. I blame AFX / Rephlex for this. His, ahem, wacky
sense of humour was always OK in interviews but it never really translated
that well into the music.
Sma
Jeff Arthur
all on an AE website about a year ago. Next thing you know he'll complain
about the other Peel Session that came out a few years back, that have tracks
dating from '93..
Mart1 Ruyant
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m.one
> Tom
>
>
>
>
For A Moment Of Silence
new material (which admittedly has been a long time coming) it makes you
think, what is the delay, what is next for AE?
Just my tuppence worth.
F.A.M.O.S
"Jeff Arthur" <autech...@home.com> wrote in message
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Jeff Arthur
delay..lol
Music takes time...especially experiemental music.
Give them a break.
-Jeff
martin krois
/martin
crikey
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Mykeul JB
ma...@mpashley.freeserve.co.uk writes
>i like it.
I do too.
I also think that if F.F. hasn't liked Ae's work since Chiastic Slide
then he should stop listening to them if the music offends him so much.
I mean why torture yourself with something you obviously don't like?
--
Mykeul JB
For A Moment Of Silence
I would hold a 24hr AE fest and take five hits of acid in this period and
just SOAK up the frequencies. Might do that soon anyhow.
F.A.M.O.S
"crikey" <n...@thanxs.com> wrote in message
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Miguel Angel Martínez
Anyway, AE makes what AE makes, if u like it , then well, and if you
don't..., then well, really does it matter?, not for me, and sure not for
the guys.
take care
Miguel Angel
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henrys_cat
currently.
In reply to some of the earlier posts, if anyone thinks that they can do
better, then why don't they? Do they think that the job of prime electronica
manufacturer is not worth doing?
And, no, by that I dont mean "post lots of mp3.com links that no-one
visits", if you seriously think that you have done something great ftp it
somewhere and drop us the URL (and the rename if neccesary)
george williamson
peggy babcock
Sma wrote:
> "Freefall*Function" <no_...@please.com> wrote in message
> news:1KO76.2425$lz.5...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > I am not alone im sure in thinking that Peel Session 2 was a bit shit (am
> > i?). Extremely disappointing.
>
> Certainly not their best work, but far from being shit.
>
> > The question is, where do AE go next. I reckon further up their own arse
>
> Remember, PS2 was recorded in 1999.
97-98 .
peggy babcock
Freefall*Function wrote:
> I am not alone im sure in thinking that Peel Session 2 was a bit shit (am
> i?). Extremely disappointing.
>
highly likely given the amount of people who have heard it.
>
> The question is, where do AE go next. I reckon further up their own arse
> with the help of some extreme DSP.
nobody will care what you reckoned.
>
> I hope not. I hate all of this, we MUST sound experimental / different shit.
> I think that's why AFX is taking so long with his stuff. He's scared of not
> being seven miles ahead of the field.
>
you a friend of his?
>
> And am i alone in thinking that almost anyone can make a lot of incoherent
> cut and paster shit with a few basic pieces of software and zero creativity?
yes you are.
>
> Have you heard dandy by kid 606? fucking 'ell. Hello out there? Anyone can
> be an ironic electronic genuis and take apart a song.
whAt is an ironic electronic genuis?
> please no more v/vm et
> al! Would this sort of music be attempted if it wasnt SO fucking easy?
>
that says a lot more about how you see the world than how anyone else does.
>
> Put it this way, if autechre continue with the (metallic hip hop beats) +
> ('glockenspiellly' noises) x (loads of hissy noise) divided by (some,
> whoo-hoo!, like crazy breakdowns/speed differences) then we will all get
> bored soon.
>
you should include cut up vocal samples and indeterminable fm slices to be
fair.
>
> You know the above sentence is scarily close to the truth about AE.
>
you scare easily, then?
>
> I rant and rave sometimes, but fuck it I buy em, so who is the mug?
you tell me.
> Don't
> get me wrong I DO love some of their stuff but since Chiastic Slide they
> have boxed themselves in to a CuldeSac (sounds like a cul de sac with afrika
> bambatta on acid with windchimes?).
it's a shame you can't lose those very personal associations. you need a
de-associative:>.
>
>
> Can they escape? I sense ae coming to an end if not.....
are you going to kill ae? i'll kick your head in . and your dad's. and all
your brothers . :>
>
>
> Heed my words! Booth and Brown.
as if.
>
>
> :-)
>
> F*F
Wouter Visser
Nice going!
wouter.
peggy babcock <let...@l.ae> schreef in berichtnieuws
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Freefall*Function
"peggy babcock" <let...@l.ae> wrote in message
news:3A64AD63...@l.ae...
>
>
> Freefall*Function wrote:
>
> > I am not alone im sure in thinking that Peel Session 2 was a bit shit
(am
> > i?). Extremely disappointing.
> >
>
> highly likely given the amount of people who have heard it.
Exactly. Mortage repayments overdue where they?
>
> >
> > The question is, where do AE go next. I reckon further up their own arse
> > with the help of some extreme DSP.
>
> nobody will care what you reckoned.
Oh, but they will, the backlash starts here and you know it.
>
> >
> > I hope not. I hate all of this, we MUST sound experimental / different
shit.
> > I think that's why AFX is taking so long with his stuff. He's scared of
not
> > being seven miles ahead of the field.
> >
>
> you a friend of his?
>
Nope, but it doesnt take a genuis to work him out.
> >
> > And am i alone in thinking that almost anyone can make a lot of
incoherent
> > cut and paster shit with a few basic pieces of software and zero
creativity?
>
> yes you are.
Only reason you disagree is when you go to the cupboard for xth packet of
monster munch you'll see none! so what to do? release that piece of shit
recorded in 97/98 you had forgotten about knowing it will sound better than
some kid with fruity loops and sound forge.
>
> >
> > Have you heard dandy by kid 606? fucking 'ell. Hello out there? Anyone
can
> > be an ironic electronic genuis and take apart a song.
>
> whAt is an ironic electronic genuis?
Im not surprised you dont know, sense of humour transplant required please.
>
> > please no more v/vm et
> > al! Would this sort of music be attempted if it wasnt SO fucking easy?
> >
>
> that says a lot more about how you see the world than how anyone else
does.
>
> >
> > Put it this way, if autechre continue with the (metallic hip hop beats)
+
> > ('glockenspiellly' noises) x (loads of hissy noise) divided by (some,
> > whoo-hoo!, like crazy breakdowns/speed differences) then we will all get
> > bored soon.
> >
>
> you should include cut up vocal samples and indeterminable fm slices to be
> fair.
>
Ah-ha! A piece of honesty at last!
> >
> > You know the above sentence is scarily close to the truth about AE.
> >
>
> you scare easily, then?
>
Yup.
> >
> > I rant and rave sometimes, but fuck it I buy em, so who is the mug?
>
> you tell me.
Erm, got me there.....
>
> > Don't
> > get me wrong I DO love some of their stuff but since Chiastic Slide they
> > have boxed themselves in to a CuldeSac (sounds like a cul de sac with
afrika
> > bambatta on acid with windchimes?).
>
> it's a shame you can't lose those very personal associations. you need a
> de-associative:>.
>
> >
> >
> > Can they escape? I sense ae coming to an end if not.....
>
> are you going to kill ae? i'll kick your head in . and your dad's. and
all
> your brothers . :>
nope i think you'll self destruct.
peggy babcock
Freefall*Function wrote:
> "peggy babcock" <let...@l.ae> wrote in message
> news:3A64AD63...@l.ae...
> >
> >
> > Freefall*Function wrote:
> >
> > > I am not alone im sure in thinking that Peel Session 2 was a bit shit
> (am
> > > i?). Extremely disappointing.
> > >
> >
> > highly likely given the amount of people who have heard it.
>
> Exactly. Mortage repayments overdue where they?
we rent. we don't expect anything.
how do you earn your money?
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > The question is, where do AE go next. I reckon further up their own arse
> > > with the help of some extreme DSP.
> >
> > nobody will care what you reckoned.
>
> Oh, but they will, the backlash starts here and you know it.
it started when we released amber and i know it better than you ever could
sunshine.
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > I hope not. I hate all of this, we MUST sound experimental / different
> shit.
> > > I think that's why AFX is taking so long with his stuff. He's scared of
> not
> > > being seven miles ahead of the field.
> > >
> >
> > you a friend of his?
> >
>
> Nope, but it doesnt take a genuis to work him out.
you some sort of psychologist then?
>
>
> > >
> > > And am i alone in thinking that almost anyone can make a lot of
> incoherent
> > > cut and paster shit with a few basic pieces of software and zero
> creativity?
> >
> > yes you are.
>
> Only reason you disagree is when you go to the cupboard for xth packet of
> monster munch you'll see none! so what to do? release that piece of shit
> recorded in 97/98 you had forgotten about knowing it will sound better than
> some kid with fruity loops and sound forge.
>
we know it all sounds better. it's all really simple.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Have you heard dandy by kid 606? fucking 'ell. Hello out there? Anyone
> can
> > > be an ironic electronic genuis and take apart a song.
> >
> > whAt is an ironic electronic genuis?
>
> Im not surprised you dont know, sense of humour transplant required please.
i think i'm talking light years above you, that's all.
>
>
> >
> > > please no more v/vm et
> > > al! Would this sort of music be attempted if it wasnt SO fucking easy?
> > >
> >
> > that says a lot more about how you see the world than how anyone else
> does.
> >
> > >
> > > Put it this way, if autechre continue with the (metallic hip hop beats)
> +
> > > ('glockenspiellly' noises) x (loads of hissy noise) divided by (some,
> > > whoo-hoo!, like crazy breakdowns/speed differences) then we will all get
> > > bored soon.
> > >
> >
> > you should include cut up vocal samples and indeterminable fm slices to be
> > fair.
> >
>
> Ah-ha! A piece of honesty at last!
it's all honest. that's why it's so easy for you to critisise.
>
>
> > >
> > > You know the above sentence is scarily close to the truth about AE.
> > >
> >
> > you scare easily, then?
> >
>
> Yup.
>
> > >
> > > I rant and rave sometimes, but fuck it I buy em, so who is the mug?
> >
> > you tell me.
>
> Erm, got me there.....
>
> >
> > > Don't
> > > get me wrong I DO love some of their stuff but since Chiastic Slide they
> > > have boxed themselves in to a CuldeSac (sounds like a cul de sac with
> afrika
> > > bambatta on acid with windchimes?).
> >
> > it's a shame you can't lose those very personal associations. you need a
> > de-associative:>.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Can they escape? I sense ae coming to an end if not.....
> >
> > are you going to kill ae? i'll kick your head in . and your dad's. and
> all
> > your brothers . :>
>
> nope i think you'll self destruct.
why?
Sma
>
> > >
> > Remember, PS2 was recorded in 1999.
>
> 97-98 .
>
Sma
Mart1 Ruyant
stuff that is releasing these days is crap.
M/one
"peggy babcock" <let...@l.ae> a écrit dans le message news:
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Mykeul JB
<martin...@wanadoo.fr> writes
>sean you must admit that this guy is quite right, most warp and rephlex
>stuff that is releasing these days is crap.
>M/one
wasting a hell of a lot of money to have heard the majority of the
recent releases. In fact why are you even bothering to post to this news
group? Nothing better to do?
--
Mykeul JB
crikey
WHAT!
NO
WE WANT MORE V\VM,not less. are you insane?
c
crikey
> > Oh, but they will, the backlash starts here and you know it.
>
> it started when we released amber and i know it better than you ever could
> sunshine.
you can please all of the people some of the time,etc...
has there ever been an artist or artistic group that hasnt ever had
cristicism?
thing is,you carry on doing the same thing,and you get slated for being
dull;change direction,and your bound to appeal to a different
audience-alienating your previous audience in the prospect.
bit of a catch 22.
c
Mart1 Ruyant
"Mykeul JB" <Myk...@gnosis.demon.co.uk> a écrit dans le message news:
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JanHobrack
but they always have a laugh on it, i think
(recorded a record with like 7000 pigs).
check out their record on fat cat. my favourite.
jan
"Christoph S. Wengner" <c...@uni.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> "crikey" <n...@thanxs.com> schrieb/wrote:
>
> > WE WANT MORE V\VM,not less. are you insane?
>
> What is V\VM?
>
> CU, Christoph.
>
> --
> ____________________________________
> * Christoph Wengner - c...@uni.de *
> * For more infos see header *
Mykeul JB
<martin...@wanadoo.fr> writes
>i didn't buy the recent releases.
>
>
>
--
Mykeul JB
Mykeul JB
<n...@thanxs.com> writes
Machine Components is THE ultimate DJ tool. 4X7"'s of machine noises so
that we can all compose(or DE- compose) our own tracks. Brilliant IMO!.
--
Mykeul JB
Mykeul JB
Wengner <c...@uni.de> writes
>"crikey" <n...@thanxs.com> schrieb/wrote:
>
>> WE WANT MORE V\VM,not less. are you insane?
>
>
>CU, Christoph.
>
--
Mykeul JB
Chronzon
thanx
c
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Mykeul JB
give you quite a few (ha,ha).
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<n...@thanxs.com> writes
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Chronzon
im baffled!
c
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sopha
Whine & Missingtoe as well as Stuffing, great fun! It's hard not to get
chuckles over "Santa Claws is Conning your Town"...I mean there is
nothing spoken in the song, but i can imagine some cooky performer
(thief) playing for a bunch of old people in a party, he loops some music
goes and does his thing then hastily comes back and changes things up a
bit (he does this a few times) then the song abruptly ends. I dunno, i
get a crack out of it. Some is rather demented, some is nothing more
than an obscure or well known pop/childrens song pitch shited and
distorted...given a funny name, and some of it is just plain noise. It's
sort of in the same vein as weird al.
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ill