The first of few charges against Saddam Hussein
The Iraqi Special Tribunal (IST), the judicial group set up by the
Iraqi Governing Council during the "official" occupation, has brought
its first charge against Saddam Hussein. According to the BBC, the
charge "involves the killing of Shia Muslims in the village of Dujail,
north of Baghdad, in 1982, after a failed assassination attempt against
him."
The scope of the IST's mandate is broad-
The Tribunal shall have jurisdiction over any Iraqi national or
resident of Iraq accused of the crimes listed in Articles 11 - 14,
committed since July 17, 1968 and up and until May 1, 2003 , in the
territory of Iraq or elsewhere, namely:
The crime of genocide;
Crimes against humanity;
War crimes;
or Violations of certain Iraqi laws listed in Article 14 below.
Those aforementioned Iraqi laws consist of-
For those outside the judiciary, the attempt to manipulate the
judiciary or involvement in the functions of the judiciary, in
violation, inter alia, of the Iraqi interim constitution of 1970, as
amended;
The wastage of national resources and the squandering of public assets
and funds, pursuant to, inter alia, Article 2(g) of Law Number 7 of
1958, as amended; and
The abuse of position and the pursuit of policies that may lead to the
threat of war or the use of the armed forces of Iraq against an Arab
country, in accordance with Article 1 of Law Number 7 of 1958, as
amended.
In short, the IST is investigating a span of 35 years for violations of
both international and Iraqi law.
Many commentators have wondered, considering the American involvement
with Saddam during that period, how embarrassment to the United States
could be avoided once the trial of Saddam begins. Well, returning to
the BBC report, this may be the answer-
"Hopefully, in the next few weeks, we look forward to concluding the
investigation into other cases," he [Raed Juhi, the chief investigating
judge] said, allowing other trials to go ahead. The Iraqi government
has said Saddam Hussein will face only 12 charges when he goes on
trial, despite a possible 500 cases against him.
I find it absolutely appalling that some hate Bush so much that they'll even
defend Saddam.
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I find it absolutely appalling that some hate Bush so much that they'll
even
defend Saddam.
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Saddam was the enemy of the people of his nation.
Bu(ll)sh(it) is the enemy of the people of his nation.
That's the truth~!
Saddam was not the enemy of my nation, but bush *IS*~!
Lala
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Hi, Bill. While I *Love* your surly ways I must reply to the contrary.
Quite the opposite of "babbling idiot," I have a Master's degree in
Economics, but more significantly and distinguishing myself from every
rupublucun supporter; I have the *humility* to believe the most genius
men in the world regarding their extensive *research* to which they
concluded that bush's taxcutscam was bad for my nation~! It is
immaterial that *I* knew that bush's taxcutscam was a fraud, the
EXPERTS evaluated bush's taxcutscam and determined his scam to be a
scam~!
Likewise, in addition to the previous; my education in *thought* allows
me to know that health care costs are bankrupting GM (which bankrupts
Detroit and therefore *you*) because the crapubluscum Party opposes
health care reform. The crapubluscum opposition to health care reform
causes health care costs to be *twice* as expensive and also allows
uninsured people to have FREE HEALTH CARE~! Both of these are not
desirable; but more importantly, those who support the crapublucun
Party are UNAWARE of thses truths~!
The best argument for health care reform is to make all people pay
premiums for health insurance , but other advantages are equally
compelling.
(But you are unaware~!)
The list of issues is LONG of the frauds of the crapubluscum Party
which harm the middle class~!
Unfortunately, I am too *important* to now discuss the myriad
rupublucun frauds~!
and you are too closed minded to learn. : ) Lala
You hit the nail on the head: too closed-minded to learn. If Bill
(like others of his ilk) isn't babbling off lies and distortions to
defend what he *thinks* is his side, he's snoring. This is the
response of someone whose positions are indefensible. Speaking of
Republican healthcare crimes, here's some interesting data on the
topic:
http://www.citizen.org/congress/campaign/special_interest/articles.cfm?ID=6542
And I have an MBA. :) Of course, the response to that of right-wing
nut jobs like Bill and Maybelline is something along the lines of how
our minds have been poisoned by "liberal university professors" (even
though the school where I got my MBA is decidedly conservative, or at
least what was considered conservative back in the days before
Bush-type extremists took over and redefined conservatism).
And I have an MBA. :) Of course, the response to that of right-wing
nut jobs like Bill and Maybelline is something along the lines of how
our minds have been poisoned by "liberal university professors" (even
though the school where I got my MBA is decidedly conservative, or at
least what was considered conservative back in the days before
Bush-type extremists took over and redefined conservatism).
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They may as well say that; everything else the say is stupid~!
hahahahahaha
The resentful who never wasted their time in grad school often claim we
"don't know how to do anything" and I'll admit there were many idyuts
there, but those opponents need to admit that learning *does* take
place, except for the talkers.... just like real life~!
What did you study? : ) Lala
> I find it absolutely appalling that some hate Bush so much that they'll even
> defend Saddam.
I agree.
Rache....
Whereas I kinda come down on your side as regards the *World View*,
labelling Bill and May as *nut jobs* won't help your case. (In the same way
that Empy's myriad of *idyut* posts don't help his.)
Insult is easy to throw out, but it generally get's you ignored.
(Or at the 'very least' lowers people's inclinations to read what you post.
I used to 'listen' and discuss things with Empy... but now I generally just
*blip* past everything he says. And it's all due to the same old BS being
thrown out time and again.)
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> I agree.
Who has done that?
Oh yeah.... The US government... Sorry, forgot...)
(Or do you mean people in *here* ???)
Um...um...? The story was about how of Saddam's
500 or so atrocities, we're going to see to it that only
the 12 or so that don't embarrass the US government are
prosecuted. This is defending Saddam?
perplexed!
ruth
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Your link shows the hugely increasing contributions of "soft money" by
the pill companies to congress, especially to rupublucuns.
Likewise 80% of oil companies' political contributions are to
rupublucuns in congress.
These companies expect results for their cash and are *getting results*
from those whose votes they've bought~!
Only now are the rupublucun congressmen beginning to realize the harms
they've done to the people of this nation are being recognized by the
people.
Thank you for your contributions to the truth by posting links to the
facts.
And yes, it was lame of Bill to assert falsehood and then "ZZZZZzzzzz"
when you offered tangible refutation.
Oh, well.... : ) Lala
> Your link shows the hugely increasing contributions of "soft money" by
> the pill companies to congress, especially to rupublucuns.
> Likewise 80% of oil companies' political contributions are to
> rupublucuns in congress.
> These companies expect results for their cash and are *getting results*
> from those whose votes they've bought~!
> Only now are the rupublucun congressmen beginning to realize the harms
> they've done to the people of this nation are being recognized by the
> people.
> Thank you for your contributions to the truth by posting links to the
> facts.
> And yes, it was lame of Bill to assert falsehood and then "ZZZZZzzzzz"
> when you offered tangible refutation.
> Oh, well.... : ) Lala
There he is.
There's the Empy it isn't a chore to read!
Then you must both be appalled by Donald Rumsfeld and Ronald Reagan who
were buddies with him while he massacred people in his country, and
with the Bush-influenced people prosecuting him who are ignoring 98% of
the crimes he committed.
It's just a way of justifying their ignorance.
> hahahahahaha
> The resentful who never wasted their time in grad school often claim we
> "don't know how to do anything" and I'll admit there were many idyuts
> there, but those opponents need to admit that learning *does* take
> place, except for the talkers.... just like real life~!
> What did you study? : ) Lala
International business.
I dislike DR immensely and think he should have been fired long ago. I
was only a child when RR was in office and knew nothing of politics
then, so I cant really comment properly on him.
> with the Bush-influenced people prosecuting him who are ignoring 98% of
> the crimes he committed.
If this truly happens, yes I would be appalled.
My bad. I only read the 1st couple of paragraphs, and because it
started out like all the other anti-bush crap being posted here, i
didnt bother to read the whole thing. If it is indeed true that saddam
is not being prosecuted for all his crimes, I think that's wrong. I'm
actually shocked that there are only 500. With all the atrocities he's
committed against his people over all the years he was in charge, i
would think there'd be thousands of charges against him.
This is truly happening. The charges against Saddam have already been
announced and he's already on trial. And he's only standing trial for
2% of those crimes
You know, sometimes you try people for the crimes you're certain you can
convict them of. It's not *every* crime but the ones he's convicted of will
put him away forever. Isn't that enough?
Have you seen the lovely footage of Saddam cutting out toungs and
murdering women and children? How 'bout the men who have their hands
cut off or are bound and thrown off tall buildings? Those are
especially nice. Or all the dead bodies lying in the street after he
gassed them?
You are a sick and twisted person, no matter where you got your
education.
Bingo, but don't waste your breath.
Killfile, Baby Baby
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> Have you seen the lovely footage of Saddam cutting out toungs and
> murdering women and children?
Footage of *him* doing that?
Were is it?
Saddam who?
Denise
It's interesting you do say that because when I do post about Amy,
nobody responds to me. It's only when I don't post about Amy that I
can engage anyone in a discussion.
Well let's see . . . originally we went to war in Iraq because of
alleged weapons of mass destruction. Then when it became
overwhelmingly apparent that there were no WMDs, the Bush
Administration argument changed to "we're liberating the Iraqis from a
ruthless dictator." Now that the dictator is on trial, he is NOT being
prosecuted for 98% of the crimes that are (now) supposedly the reason
we are losing American troops in Iraq. Something stinks and it stinks
bad.
*I'll* talk with you about Amy~!
She smells so good and clean~!
She thinks instead of talking to much.
She tries to be nice.
She's thoughtful.
She's kindhearted.
She's funny and a bit of a smart-alec.
She's *exactly* as goodlooking as me.
She's a sugar bunny. (hahahahahahaha) : ) Lala
And incidentally, from the accounting I've seen, the crimes Hussein is
being charged for relate to the deaths of fewer than 200 people. Yet
the Bush Administration has been arguing that we needed to go after
Hussein because he was responsible for some 30,000 deaths. How can you
possibly justify not trying him for tens of thousands of deaths,
particularly given that that is the LATEST argument being put forth by
the Bush Administration for sacrificing American lives? If the
evidence of these crimes is solid enough to prosecute a war and
sacrifice our own people, then surely it's solid enough to prosecute
Saddam Hussein! Of course, the Bush Administration is relying on the
public being as uninformed and out of touch as Maybelline so they can
get away with this sham.
Well last time I was close enough to smell her was over 20 years ago.
I assume she was clean as I certainly didn't smell any offensive odors,
and she looked clean. So I'll assume she was. Of course, this was
after a concert, and she had been in her dressing room awhile (and I
seem to recall that she had changed clothes), so she must have showered
before coming out. She was very pleasant, and at that time YOUNG. And
so was I.
so was I.
rachel
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You only reply to the single item" that She smells good", but I
understand that you are very busy doing the good work of exposing the
bushit frauds to the self-blindered; *however* you raise the question
in my mind (and I'm sure to the minds of every red blooded American
boy) of the concept of girls in showers~!
hahahahahahaha
Specifically, how can you shower w/o getting your hair wet~!? To me,
it's not a shower unless I wash my hair.
AND, more importantly, does soap get into the vagina, and if so, does
it sting like soap stings the eyes~!?
These things are puzzles to me and, I'm sure, to all red blooded
American boys~!
hahahahahaha : ) Lala
LMAO!
I'm intrigued by some of the lifes questions you find yourself
pondering. But I think I'll let you continue to ponder those things
and instead talk about a couple of your other points: Amy is thoughtful
and tries to be nice. Say what you will about what broke up her
marriage to Gary, but I think she demonstrated that she's thoughtful
and tries to be nice by the graceful way she handled the separation and
divorce in the face of some harsh comments Gary made. I know some
people think she was holding back comment because she was at fault and
had no defense, but I choose to believe she was trying to take the high
road. Regarding your point that she's "exactly" as good looking as
you, are you saying you have the same beautiful long brown hair and
sexy smile?
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Regarding your point that she's "exactly" as good looking as
you, are you saying you have the same beautiful long brown hair and
sexy smile?
rachel
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Oh, no; Her hair is better than mine~! I love Her "just right curls."
[excerpted from my poem] But my smile is sexier than Hers because mine
is crooked. Girls are always trying to straighten it with their
tongues, but I had to bring an end to that~! It's my 2nd best asset~!
hahahahahahaha
I agree that Amy took the high road, She being very aware of Christ's
teachings, and respectful rather than selfish. There is a "certainty"
to Her that doesn't need to seek revenge or win the battle of words.
She's very dutiful and consider(ate)ed.
: ) Lala
Here is a political song I really love.
If a black man is racist is it okay?
When it's the white man's racism that made him that way
Because the bully's the victim they say
By some sense they're all the same
Because the line between
Wrong and right
Is the width of a thread
From a spider's web
The piano keys are black and white
But they sound like a million colours in your mind
I could tell you to go to war
Or I could march for peace and fighting no more
How do I know which is right
And I hope he does when he sends you to fight
Because the line between wrong and right
Is the width of a thread from a spider's web
The piano keys are black and white
But they sound like a million colours in your mind
Should we act on a blame?
Or should we chase the moments away?
Should we live?
Should we give?
Remember forever the guns and the feathers in time
Because the line between wrong and right
Is the width of a thread from a spider's web
The piano keys are black and white
But they sound like a million colours in your mind
The piano keys are black and white
But they sound like a million colours in your mind
But they sound like a million colours in your mind
Sincerely from Hope with Love
and tries to be nice <---- of course. she tries to be nice and act like
she's nice.
" Say what you will about what broke up her marriage to Gary," <----
what broke up her marriage to Gary was her adulterous desire for
another man, among other things.
"but I think she demonstrated that she's thoughtful and tries to be
nice by the graceful way she handled the separation and divorce in the
face of some harsh comments Gary made." <---------- a huge load of BS.
"I know some people think she was holding back comment because she was
at fault and
had no defense, but I choose to believe she was trying to take the high
road." <----- her actions are defenceless and she took the LOW, LOW
road in the seperation and divorce, because she CAUSED it all. she
commited adultery. she cheated on Gary. she hurt her kids. she
destroyed her family. and now she'll have to live with it for the rest
of her life.
anti-christian Amy Grant gets all the admiration and sympathy because
she's just so NICE!
and tries to be nice <---- of course. she tries to be nice and act like
she's nice.
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She was nice to me...., *very* nice~! but don't expect the same for you
because I'm *very* goodlooking~! hahahahahahaha
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" Say what you will about what broke up her marriage to Gary," <----
what broke up her marriage to Gary was her adulterous desire for
another man, among other things.
"but I think she demonstrated that she's thoughtful and tries to be
nice by the graceful way she handled the separation and divorce in the
face of some harsh comments Gary made." <---------- a huge load of BS.
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hahahahahaha OK, don't drop dead, because I like the way you say, "BS."
hahahahahaha
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"I know some people think she was holding back comment because she was
at fault and
had no defense, but I choose to believe she was trying to take the high
road." <----- her actions are defenceless and she took the LOW, LOW
road in the seperation and divorce, because she CAUSED it all. she
commited adultery. she cheated on Gary. she hurt her kids. she
destroyed her family. and now she'll have to live with it for the rest
of her life.
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No, She didn't cheat on Gary. She suffered him. I feel bad for him, but
he was selfish to Her. He may be a good Dad, but how hard is that when
he doesn't have to work, due to Amy's money. He's "playdad." But he was
not nice to Her.
Still, nice isn't enough. A Man must be to his wife as described
biblically~! It's not the kind of thing one can contrive just because
She's goodlooking. And it's not because Gary isn't goodlooking, but he
didn't help to be *that* ugly~! hahahahaha
It wouldn't even matter if he was almost as *goodlooking* as me, which
is *Way* better looking than he is~! hahahahahaha You have to hear the
sound~! If you don't hear the sound, you have no business marrying a
woman, because if you cannot behave as described biblically; I think we
*all* know that women make our lives *miserable*~! hahahahahahahaha
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anti-christian Amy Grant gets all the admiration and sympathy because
she's just so NICE!
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Yes, She was *very* nice to me.... a little bit nice and a little bit
naughty~!
hahahahahahaha It's like, a little salt makes sugar sweeter.
Am I the only one who knows so *much*~! hahahahahaha
Sure, Amy made a mistake with vince, but you need to ask Okie to know
the exact mistake. : ) Lala
> Sure, Amy made a mistake with vince, but you need to ask Okie to know
> the exact mistake. : ) Lala
Oh, you mean that mistake of marrying vince instead of *moi*?
Okie
Still working on his vince gill poem
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Don't get uppitty~! hahahahahaha
Anxious to read your poem~! : ) Lala
In fairness, i expect that many of us did not "care" mostly
*because* we did not know ... which is mostly because
previous adminstrations turned blind eyes, you're right-on there.
The US helps arm a dictator, and it gets reported, but quietly,
as boring foreign policy paper-pushing that isn't a sexy story,
won't sell papers or get high ratings.. The dictator kills and
tortures his own countrymen, and it gets reported as a factoid,
with no anaylsis, the connections NOT made... except in
analytical media that i'm as guilty as anybody else of ignoring.
(Have you seen "Good Night and Good Luck" MAJOR wow,
go see it!!!)
But, whatever her manymanymanymany ( 8~) Hi, May!)
Republican Faults, i think May is a caring person and would
definitely care about such suffering.
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Thanks for your comments. You bring up some very good points. Our
media fails us way too often, putting emphasis on titillating stories
about Michael Jackson, Jon Benet Ramsey, the girl who went missing in
Aruba, Scott Peterson, etc., rather than focussing on stories that are
truly of national importance and in the best interests of the nation.
And frankly, it's not entirely the fault of the media; the public is
part of the problem as well. Our "news" organizations are ultimately
driven by profit, and when you have a public that's more interested in
what's being reported on Entertainment Tonight or in People magazine
than in decisions being made by our government that affect our national
interests and security, you wind up with what we now see so much of on
our news shows: tabloid journalism, emphasizing all this "stuff" rather
than the things that really matter. And in the end, we all lose
because we're left with a sadly uninformed public. In Europe, the news
isn't so commercial like it is here, so they are better informed. Our
news used to be far less commercial, I wish we could go back to those
days. At least we stil have PBS.
I haven't seen "Good Night and Good Luck" but I really want to. That's
on my list of must-see movies.