CFNY
Anestis Papoutsis
Also did you know that previous winners of the cd can reenter and win again
such as this years? I think CFNY should rename their cd just Talent search
and their radio logo from the EDGE to the alternative GUITARY EDGE.
Get with it, Nirvana, Sloan and the whole guitary bit that's been up today
isn't the only alternative music around. There's more than garage acoustic
bands to play on a so called Alternative radio station.
Don Marks
>Also did you know that previous winners of the cd can reenter and win again
>such as this years?
This has happened in previous years. Harmonic X-tortion and Skaface are
the two that I remember.
I'm more upset that bands with already large local followings and substantial
CFNY airplay (Lowest of the Low, Sara Craig, hHead) made it onto the disc.
It's hardly a new music search any more ...
>I think CFNY should rename their cd just Talent search
>and their radio logo from the EDGE to the alternative GUITARY EDGE.
My friends and I have been calling them the LEADING HEDGE.
>Get with it, Nirvana, Sloan and the whole guitary bit that's been up today
>isn't the only alternative music around. There's more than garage acoustic
>bands to play on a so called Alternative radio station.
I agree, absoulutely. CFNY is a shadow of its former self and incredibly
lacking in diversity. Every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same
uninspired songs with only some very occasional good stuff thrown in.
They're hardly defining the leading edge; they're definitely following
what someone else has defined as the leading edge.
Despite our complaints, remember that CFNY still plays a lot of stuff
that most commercial stations wouldn't touch. Many cities wish they had
a station as good.
Looking forward to HEDGE FEST ...
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CFNY -- that amusingly sounds like less of a radio station and more like
"Crosby, Fogelbert, Nash, and Young" (gag spew hack!).
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Dave Dal Farra
>CFNY is a shadow of its former self and incredibly
>lacking in diversity. Every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same
>uninspired songs with only some very occasional good stuff thrown in.
>They're hardly defining the leading edge; they're definitely following
>what someone else has defined as the leading edge.
My brother worked as an engineer at this station for many years.
Suffice it to say that the place is completely politically motivated,
is run by absolute slime-bags, and every DJ with any ingenuity or
integrity was either let go or quit. The mood there was very very
bad. Many editorials were written in Toronto weeklies concerning
CFNY's unfair practices with regards to lay-offs, promotion
and even their poor work ethic.
And, no, my brother wasn't bitter. He's now the head engineer
at the number 3 station in the market.
He knew the place had finally died last year when the new program
director arrived wearing a Bruce Springsteen Tour jacket.
Gone Daddy gone...
>Despite our complaints, remember that CFNY still plays a lot of stuff
>that most commercial stations wouldn't touch. Many cities wish they had
>a station as good.
Any crummy little college station blows this dying turd away.
Dave D.F.
"It's true they say that money talks. When mine spoke it said
'Buy me a Drink!'."
Marc Wiatrowski
>I agree, absoulutely. CFNY is a shadow of its former self and incredibly
>lacking in diversity. Every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same
>uninspired songs with only some very occasional good stuff thrown in.
>They're hardly defining the leading edge; they're definitely following
>what someone else has defined as the leading edge.
I completely agree, when ever i turn to the station they are
always playing comercials. usually that bogus labat ice one.
marc
Andrew Duke Gruich
>From: wia...@acsu.buffalo.edu (Marc Wiatrowski)
>Subject: Re: CFNY
>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 22:44:42 GMT
C'mon guys, give CFNY a break! I like it now more than ever. You are righ
t in saying the commercials really suck. Not only that bogus Ice
commercial, but the stupid talking engine, and the 'good thing i was wearing
my 24 hour deoderant' they stink as well. yes the commercials stink. But i
am glad they trimmed out their absurd music they were playing. I couldn't
get into that shit. Yes, they are more commercial, but if you want off-the-
wall Dayglo abortion bullshit then listen to the college stations. I prefer
mainstream alternative (oxymoron!!!). As it stands, their popularity is
increasing. I hope it doesn't come to the point where they play Bruce
Springsteen. I think i'd die if i had to switch to Q107.
face it, you guys are a minority, a whining minority. What other stations
would you rather listen to? They are still the best around.
SID
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Andrew Duke Gruich
Tyler Mosher
can decide to listen to those classic rock or country and western stations.
I can't find any other station that I pick up that even comes close to
decent music. CFNY was much better back when Chris Sheppard was there. The
only real choice out there is to forget about the radio and listen to your
own collection.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!! Tyler "A.F.U." Mosher "Don't just stand there and shout it, !!
!! Chemical Engineering do something about it!" !!
!! University of Waterloo Judas, Depeche Mode !!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he...@cuckoo.uwaterloo.ca
: decent music. CFNY was much better back when Chris Sheppard was there. The
: own collection.
Well, if you like "the Shep" and his music you can still listen to him on
108FM (located at 107.9 on the dial). Along with him you will find Don
Burns and a host of other CFNY people from the past.
Now, does anyone know where Earl and Bev are?
Bri
he...@cuckoo.uwaterloo.ca
: lacking in diversity. Every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same
: uninspired songs with only some very occasional good stuff thrown in.
: They're hardly defining the leading edge; they're definitely following
: what someone else has defined as the leading edge.
:
: Despite our complaints, remember that CFNY still plays a lot of stuff
: that most commercial stations wouldn't touch. Many cities wish they had
: a station as good.
Ah... CFNY. The name CFNY should be synonomous with the word "change".
When I discovered CFNY my brother-in-law said he
had stopped listening to it because it had changed so much -- "it wasn't
the same anymore" he said. That was over thirteen years ago.
It started one Friday night when I was searching the dial
and I came upon a familiar voice. It wasn't as youthful as I remembered,
but then again mine wasn't either; after all, a lot of years had gone by
since Dave Mickey hosted Channel 11 Dance Party (back in 1964).
Now he was going by
a different name: David Marsden. The show was different than anything
else I had heard on the radio, and the music he played certainly
wasn't the stuff played by other stations. The station was CFNY.
My wife and I continued to listen to CFNY on Friday nights.
The one night however, we turned in a bit before the Marsden show and
discovered an anouncer who was calling someone on the phone.
He was checking in at home... a female voice answered... he asked
if the wash was done... she replied "check"...
socks folded... she replied "check"... he asked about the
state of the dishes... she replied "done, check"... dusting... "check".
We had discovered Earl and Bev!
It became a ritual to tune into the Earl and
Bev show (with alternate Earl), followed by the Marsden show.
We found we were no longer listening to our Bob Seager records, and
they went out with the Elton John records at our first garage sale.
Our record collection was being replaced by other groups:
Talk Talk, Haricut 100, Tom Robinson,
Classix Nouveaux, Depeche Mode, Tears for Fears, Generation X,
The Spoons, Visage, B-movie, Spandau Ballet, and -- probably one of
the most influential groups of all time -- New Order.
There were also songs by groups that no other station played --
songs by small independant groups who without CFNY would have never
been given a voice --
songs like "Rubber Girl" by the Pukka Orchastra, or
"My Old Man's A Joke" by Knoby Kleg.
I suppose we never thought that CFNY would change, but
then one night David announced that it would be his last show.
I still have a taped copy of that show, along with many other hours
of tape from shows as far back as 84.
Anyway, Marsden was replaced by a snot-nosed kid by the name of
Chris "puppy-dog" Shepherd.
Things got worse.
The programs and announcers that we had come to love on CFNY were slowly
disappearing.
Listeners choice, a Saturday afternoon show which allowed
listeners to come in and co-host a show, playing the music they liked,
disappeared -- a great idea who's time had gone.
The IMPORT show, where listeners
got a chance to hear rare and hard to acquire music. It was on
this show that I heard "Summer with Monica" by Roger Mcgough.
Twilight Jazz, a Sunday program that started at 4 p.m. and was hosted
by Ron Burshell, offered the smoothing quality to the stations
sharp edged format.
James Scott filled in for the vacationing Ron. Ron
did not return, and
soon after the show was canceled.
All request weekends -- "jocks off" weekends -- 52 in 82 -- all
these things made CFNY the great station it was. They are all gone
or have been replaced with watered down versions such as
the "all request breakfast" on Saturdays and the "all request nooner".
Finally, one Saturday night we turned on the radio expecting to hear
Earl but instead it was James Scott (the anouncer with the kiss of death).
He told the listening audience that he was filling in for the
"vacationing Earl Jive". What the listening public didn't realize is that
every time in the past when someone was being filled-in-for-while-on-vacation,
the person never came back. Earl and Bev were gone.
The above CNFY radio personalities had personality; they were
"The Spirit Of Radio".
The summer of 89 became a lowest point in the history of CFNY. If the
station sank any deeper the signal would be on the AM bandwidth.
You could count on the same song being played at the same time
every morning, but worse, it was the same music that you could
hear on AM radio.
On Nov 16, 1989 Earl filled in for Humble Howard, while Howard was
being "married alive".
It was great to hear his voice again, even if it was only a fill-in
for the two morning clowns.
With the reappearance of Earl we
realized just how bad things had become at CFNY.
On November 18, 1989 CFNY anounced an "all request Saturday";
things were looking up.
There was also vague promises of a new Earl and Bev show
on weekend mornings. In early 1990 this came true; however, it was short lived.
On May 7, 1990 Whiner Swartz delivered a "State of the Nation" address
to the CFNY listeners. His statement was promising; things were getting
better. But not for long...
Today, only Humble and Fred remain.
I'm not sure what's going to come of the "Edge" thing. Nobody knows.
But the one thing you can count on is that CFNY will continue to change,
and each time people will say it is worse. Hell, there will most likely
come a time when we look back at the CFNY of today and think of it as
good programming. The other thing you can count on is that I will still
be listening. After all, there isn't anything else out there on the dial.
Bri
Terence Lo
>
>a different name: David Marsden. The show was different than anything
>else I had heard on the radio, and the music he played certainly
>wasn't the stuff played by other stations. The station was CFNY.
David Marsden is now in Vancouver with Coast 1040 (CKST), a
commercial alternative station. Only problem with the station is
that it's AM. Attempts to get an FM license have failed.
>The above CNFY radio personalities had personality; they were
>"The Spirit Of Radio".
Gee, Coast 1040 is also "The Spirit of Radio". Imagine that.
It sounds like CKST has taken much of what CFNY used to be, and
adapted it for the West Coast market.
Dave Dal Farra
>I'm not sure what's going to come of the "Edge" thing. Nobody knows.
>But the one thing you can count on is that CFNY will continue to change,
>and each time people will say it is worse. Hell, there will most likely
>come a time when we look back at the CFNY of today and think of it as
>good programming.
Well, you're half right :)
Dave Dal Farra
>
>
>C'mon guys, give CFNY a break! I like it now more than ever. You are righ
>t in saying the commercials really suck. Not only that bogus Ice
>commercial, but the stupid talking engine, and the 'good thing i was wearing
>my 24 hour deoderant' they stink as well. yes the commercials stink. But i
>am glad they trimmed out their absurd music they were playing. I couldn't
>get into that shit. Yes, they are more commercial, but if you want off-the-
>wall Dayglo abortion bullshit then listen to the college stations. I prefer
>mainstream alternative (oxymoron!!!). As it stands, their popularity is
>increasing. I hope it doesn't come to the point where they play Bruce
>Springsteen. I think i'd die if i had to switch to Q107.
>
>face it, you guys are a minority, a whining minority. What other stations
>would you rather listen to? They are still the best around.
>
>SID
It's impossible to argue taste. You like it, we don't.
BUT, it's not impossible to claim that the station isn't what it was
and that it no longer comes close to meeting it's advertising credits.
As long as the station continiues to build itself up as "leading edge",
and as long as they keep playing shit ass top 40 and the same lame post-new
wave tunes that I had to suffer through in the mid-80's on various "FOX"
"all hits" stations, then I'll continue to call them hypocrits, and lament
that a once great station has sunk so low.
If they called themselves schlock 40 or "music of your life" for the
late 20's crowd, then I could give a shit. You don't see us discussing
how bad CISS FM (urban country) is do you? This is an "alternative"
newsgroup and as such we discuss independant releases and bands that are
either difficult to get info on otherwise, or are not part of the
mainstream. CFNY does not cover these bands in any real way.
If you have a problem with this, then what are you doing posting
to this group?
...Dave
she listens like her head's on fire..
But what else is there to listen to in Buffalo? Top 40, oldies and classic
rock. I haven't turned my radio on in months...:-(
-Q.
>
>marc
Marc Wiatrowski
>Well, if you like "the Shep" and his music you can still listen to him on
>108FM (located at 107.9 on the dial). Along with him you will find Don
>Burns and a host of other CFNY people from the past.
>Now, does anyone know where Earl and Bev are?
>Bri
how about danielle (danny) ellwel(sp?)? major babe!
marc
Stephan Marceau
DM>Despite our complaints, remember that CFNY still plays a lot of stuff
DM>that most commercial stations wouldn't touch. Many cities wish they had
DM>a station as good.
Coming from Mtl, CFNY is a gift from heaven! I can't see CHOM in Mtl playing
even Ian McCollough, PIL, never mind the new alternative bands...
DM>Looking forward to HEDGE FEST ...
Are you sure it's HEDGE and not EDGE? as in Leading Edge? And I can't wait to
see Midnight Oil, Pursuit Of Happiness and many others at Markham fairgrounds.
Steph
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Carrie Janisse
It's been said far too many times already - but if you hate CFNY
now, you'll really hate it if you leave T.O. - I'm now in
the radio hell called Ottawa, and though I long for the days of
the Spirit, Id
I'd even listen to "Modern Rock" right about now.
cj
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Carrie Janisse Ottawa, Ontario ab...@freenet.carleton.ca
Steve Campbell
CJ>It's been said far too many times already - but if you hate CFNY
CJ>now, you'll really hate it if you leave T.O. - I'm now in
CJ>the radio hell called Ottawa, and though I long for the days of
CJ>the Spirit, Id
CJ>I'd even listen to "Modern Rock" right about now.
Carrie:
Have you tried listening to CKCU 93.1 or CHUO 89.1? They're Carleton's and
Ottawa U's stations, respectively. Or are you looking for CFNY's classic
alternative? Give me a hint as to what you really miss.
I lived up there for 4-1/2 years while at Carleton (1988-1993) and found
the best thing to do was listen to my own music. However, I'm a dj and
thus had a lot of it already. If you like, we could possibly set something
up so that I could supply you with CFNY tapes, if needed.
Just tell me what you're looking for - Depeche? Sub-pop? 80's?
Sincerely,
Steve Campbell
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