Five Records That Changed Your Life
Tawky Tawny
....or had the biggest impact on your taste, at least.
Mine would be:
1.The Smiths - The World Won't Listen
Opened me up to a new way of thinking about music, where
lyrics could actually say something to me and where a record didn't
have to be enormously successful or 20 years old to be good.
2.Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Introduced me to the vital idea that music could sound like
nothing you'd ever heard and still be music, and that melody wasn't as
important as noise. (Cue Geir wearily reaching for follow-up
button...)
3.The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
Prior to hearing this I'd been pretty much anti-techno and
house, tolerating it at best. This song won me over single-handedly -
I listened to it again and again and was lost to 'real music' forever.
Sorry, rockboys.
4.Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Since getting into The Smiths and through them indie, I'd
dismissed everything recorded before 1977. This was the record which
started to show me how stupid I'd been.
5.Various Artists - The Dark Side: Jungle and Technology
If you were interested in the mad new music that was jungle
back in 93-early 94, and you didn't have any clubs near you that
played it, your only choice was to read avant-garde mags like The
Wire. Fashion makes strange bedfellows in the music press, and hence
through jungle I got my tastes opened up to all the noisy, weird,
avant-garde shit that I spend too much money on today.
6.The Spice Girls - Say You'll...
(That's enough life changing records - Ed.)
Anyone else have time to waste on this?
Tom.
eb...@netcomuk.co.uk
TODAY'S WIPED-OUT LISTENING:
Flying Saucer Attack - s/t
The Durutti Column - Vini Reilly
Various Artists - Stax-O-Soul
I'D RATHER JACK THAN KULA SHAK.
JackieBlue
This is pretty easy..
1.Jane's Addiction - "Nothing's Shocking" - I bought this when it came
out in '88, at the tender age of 13, without having heard a single song
by them.
2.Camper Van Beethoven - "Key Lime Pie" - bought around '89, I still
have the original tape of this, and still listen to it once every week
or so in my car.
3.Dire Straits - "Brothers in Arms" - picked up somewhere around '87.
My introduction to the greatest rock band of all time.
4.Run-DMC - "Tougher Than Leather" - also around '87. Still my vote for
probably the best rap record of all time.
5.Ministry - "The Land of Rape and Honey" - my best friend in highschool
used to call this "homicide music".
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"It stands to reason if you spend your life in a pocket of
avoidance it will, one day, catch up to you. There are so
many levels of self-denial. The human mind is so twisted in
its rationalizations, and yet I knew it all along. I am a
pitiable, selfish fuck of a being."
- S. Malkmus
mark lopez
1.the downward spiral , nin
2.wish , the cure
3.twice upon a time , siouxsie and the banshees
4.broken , nin again.
5.little earthquakes , tori amos
mark;
Persinthia Lawdro
In article <33613d5b...@nntp.netcruiser>, eb...@netcomuk.co.uk says...
>Anyone else have time to waste on this?
Well...I'll keep this kinda brief, but here it goes:
1. REM - Life's Rich Pageant
This is essentially the album that showed me that there was more to heavy
metal music in the world.
2. Pixies - 'Bone Machine'
I first heard this on the radio at about the time 'Surfer Rosa' was released
and it blew my mind. I'd never heard anything like it. I still think the
Pixies are one of the greatest albums of all time
3. Rolling Stones - Tatoo You
I had already been a Stones fan, thanks to my dad who took me to my first
ever concert (1981 Rolling Stones 'Still Life' tour at the LA Colliseum at
the tender age of 11), but it was this album that changed my view on them. I
always thought that they were a 'cool' rock band, but somehow this record
still sounds fresh everytime I listen to it. Because of it I re-assessed my
Stones back catalogue and came to appreciate classics like 'Her Satatnic
Majesty's...' 'Exile On Main Street' and, IMO, the underrated 'Goat's Head
Soup'. I still think 'Tatoo You' is my favorite, though. At least, it's my
most memorable. They haven't done anything really great since then (except
for the occasional great song)
4. Iron Maiden - Killers
This was one of my first introductions to heavy metal and it still is a great
fucking record. Paul Di'Anno was a great vocalist and though hw was missed,
Bruce Dickinson took the band to new heights (Although I think their last
really great album was 'Seventh Son of a Seventh Son').
5. Savage Republic - Trudge
This song was presented to me on a compilation tape a friend made for me back
in 1987 featuring Savage, Sonic Youth, Abecedarians and a few others). This
song paved the way for my more experimental tastes and would have KILLED to
see one of the famous desert concerts put on in the ealry 80's featuring
bands like Savage, Einsturzende and others. After hearing this, my friend
made a me a tape of Sonic Youth's first EP and I was completely blown away by
the song 'She Is Not Alone'. Neverthe less, I was on a quest fto find every
Savage Republic (some of their stuff is rare and expensive as hell),
Abecedarians and Sonic Youth thing I could get ahold of.
I could go on, but here are a few quickis that marked pivotal music listening
experiences:
Cocteau Twins - Treausure 1985 (still remains my favorite band)
Goldie - my first introduction to Jungle in 1995 and now drum n bass is my
main obsession
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Third Eye Foundation - Ghosts
Depeche Mode - ULTRA
Pugs - Pugs Bit The Red Knee (Could be the best album of the year!!)
A Metamatics Production - Metamatics Compilation
Supergrass - In It For The Money
Nick Nelson
eb...@netcomuk.co.uk (Tawky Tawny) wrote: ...
My most significant turning point was Patti Smith's Horses, I shelved
my Yes, King Crimson, ELP, Genesis (Peter Gabriel version only, I
swear!) and never looked back. Actually I still listen to a small
selection of that stuff, Crimson (now and then), Can, Henry Cow, Eno,
and the occasional Gong (a guilty pleasure).
Throwing Muses 1st (and the Chains Changed and Fat Skier discs)
BTW, why has their first LP never been released in the US, or has it?
Television's Marquee Moon. Poetry in guitars.
Pere Ubu's Datapanic In The Year Zero &The Modern Dance. Can't really
describe these, can you?
And to be brutally honest with myself, Yes - Yessongs. I was 15 years
old and had just bought my first stereo. This was my first LP
purchase (besides a couple teenybopper things) and I lay on my bed,
with the cheesy speakers on either side of me, and just blasted this
3-LP set straight through. I was Steve Howe for a couple of hours.
My parents later told it was very audible in the living room, but they
decided to indulge me. Thanks, folks.
PS, TT, you have raised the level of discourse around here, keep it
up!
forget you like forget me
1) treasure - cocteau twins
when i found out that claustrophobia could be euphoric; thoughts are not
to be verbalized too much, because they get to mean less the more thay are
used....
2) butter 08 (cibo matto and johns spencer blues explosion) - butter 08
i was never into noise and punk, beacause my ears were not tuned, but
this record sorta opened me up. the campiest punk, and punkiest camp.
3) excerpt from a love circus - lisa germano
i don't know why, but this is haunting music, it brings back yers and
yeras of hurt. someone talk about lisa germano please
4) impatience - faye wong
the most existential music ever made in chinese history. it's cultural
nomads torchsongs.
5) little earthquakes - tori amos
stark, naked, clever.
also: a guy called gerald, made in usa (pizzicato five), sacred bleu
(dimitri from paris)
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Joe McGlinchey
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Nick Nelson wrote:
> and the occasional Gong (a guilty pleasure).
The Pierre Moerlen-led version or the David Allaen-led version?
I'm kind of a new fan of them [this was the Anglo-Gallic band that started
the whole 'space fusion' subgenre of progressive rock, the prototype for
bands like Ozric Tentacles] and was listening to "YOU" last
night, laughing my ass off...all the references to P.H.P. ("pot-head
pixies") and Gilli Smyth's space-whispers ("O wind....spirit........I
loooooooveeee you!!!!") Despite the whimsical content,though, they
were really top-notch musicians, especially Steve Hillage...he shreds! :)
Joe McGlinchey
Teachers College
Columbia University
Thomas Gabriel Busillo
1. The Blasting Concept - Various Artists
I bought this SST compilation while I was playing keyboards in a band that
sounded like a mish-mash of early Genesis, ELP and Yes back when MTV was
just a little music video channel in its infancy. Hearing Black Flag,
Sacchrine Trust, Husker Du and others for the first time was like sticking a
railroad spike in my ear. Bought a cheap used guitar, taught myself, and have
been making noise ever since. Some of it even marginally good.
2. Daydream Nation - Sonic Youth
Came into SY late in their history, but I had never heard guitars sound like
that. Broke countless guitar strings fooling around with alternative
tunings.
3. The Best of Leonard Cohen - Leonard Cohen
Ah, songwriting. Thanks for the inspiration Mr. Cohen.
4. Chronic Town - R.E.M.
First exposure to American "indie rock" scene in the '80's. Went from trying
to be Greg Ginn to trying to be Peter Buck. Neither transformation was
successful, but it sure was fun trying.
5. Mellow Gold - Beck
Liquid Shimmer - It's a floor wax AND a dessert topping.
Thomas
tgbu...@voicenet.com
"Being trampled by geese is a slow and painful way of dying..."
- Soren Kierkegaard
Ned 'the Nanite' Raggett
Tawky Tawny wrote:
[snip]
Why Tom, you are a beautiful man. I've been spoiling to do something
like this for a long while.
Before people retch over a number of my choices, you must accept
the general description -- these are the records that changed my
life, that literally affected how I listen to music and what I listen
for. Chronologically:
1. Shawn Cassidy -- all his late seventies releases, including the
live album
Easy inclusion -- he was the first specific musician I got into. You
have to start somewhere -- I was six and I thought his stuff was
great.
2. The Mighty 690 AM radio station, weeknights, 1981 to 1982
I had gotten my first radio, and this was the station I kept it on,
and this is what I listened to every night during sixth grade. There
was nothing else. It was nothing but total Top 40, nothing else --
the playlist literally repeated, with tiny variations, about every
two hours. Pure pop, REAL pure pop, because that was precisely what
was played -- the popular hits. First introductions to New Wave,
dance pop, funk, too many other things -- and, of course, Casey Kasem
counting down the Billboard hits every Sunday.
3. Duran Duran, "Hungry Like the Wolf"
Still remember the exact first time I heard this -- late November 1982,
upstate New York, I come down for breakfast on a cold day, and school
once again looms. The local top 40 station is on [sigh -- no
real equivalent to Mighty 690 there], it's bopping along -- and all of
a sudden, a woman's laugh, a keyboard squiggle, a great guitar hook,
and this guy singing in a way I'd never quite heard before. From there
it was a basic step to progress into Brit synth-pop in general,
Soft Cell, Depeche Mode, and further and further into realms of
electronic experimentation, pop groups, techno, ambient, industrial,
swoony orchestrated pop, Roxy Music and glam rock...
4. Def Leppard, "Photograph"
Pretty much the same massive impact on me as Duran Duran, but in a
different series of realms [and I don't immediately remember when I
heard it first -- just sometime in early 1983]. One *killer* riff,
biggest rock beat I'd heard yet, and loudest guitars, and catchy
as all hell! Another example why Sheffield is the underrated locale
in English rock history [see also Human League, Comsat Angels, Cabaret
Voltaire, Pulp...]. From here, it leads to heavy metal in its radio
sense for that time [Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, the works], but eventually
into Guns n' Roses, Metallica, Ministry, the Sex Pistols, thrash,
punk, loud power-pop, T. Rex and glam rock [one of the many
intersecting influences with Duran, actually!], grindcore, pure noise,
avant-garde weirdness...
5. My Bloody Valentine, "Soon"
It's late 1990, and now I'm a DJ at the college station at UCLA.
Going to college has merrily expanded the range of what I have to
listen to, and basically sent my late high-school record buying mania
into an overdrive which has never really disappeared, almost 10 years
on now. As I'm doing my show one day, I see the vinyl version of
the "Glider" EP by MBV. Someone has reviewed "Soon" as being the
most amazing thing out there, easily the equal of anything Sonic Youth
might be doing. Being a touch familiar with Sonic Youth, I think, "OK,"
cue it up, and play it.
Time STOPS.
Seven minutes later, the song ends and I realize I've been sitting at
the console frozen the whole damn time, literally gaping in awe and
ecstasy. I can barely move.
I think the rest of my life, musically speaking, will always be a
pursuit of a similar moment, when I literally am made senseless by
the greatest record ever made.
Interesting thread -- it's fascinating to see what people pick!
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> Anyone else have time to waste on this?
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1) Queen-A Night at the Opera.....my very first album as a kid...they
became my favorite band thoughout the 80s. I cried when Freddie died!
2) The Police-Regatta de Blanc.....found out about the Police through a
penpal from England in early high school.
3) NIN-Further Down the Spiral.....my first NIN purchase...I was totally
blown away, and now they're my fav. band.
4) Marilyn Manson-Smells Like Children.....bought it after I turned
30...opened my ears to a whole other genre of music and entertainment.
5)Jon Spencer Blues Xplosion-Now I Got Worry.....first really
*different* sound I bought. I'm hooked...love the absence of bass for a
change.
*smiles* Shelby
Geir Hongro
I'm not going to comment on your Public Enemy comment (They probably
did some of the worst fucking records ever made though....)
These are the five records that changed MY life.
Norske Jenter-The Kids
The Kids was a Norwegian 1980-1981 teenybopper band. I included this
record on the list simply because it was the record that made me stop
listening to children's song and start listening to rock. The biggest
hit of this album was called "Forelska i larer'n", or "She Is In Love
With The Teacher" as it translates and was called in the English
version. It was the first rock song I ever liked.
Upstairs At Eric's-Yazoo
This was the record that REALLY got me into synth pop. For a couple of
years I would hardly listen to anything that didn't have mainly synths
in it. The Yazoo link also was the reason why some years later I
discovered Depeche Mode, who were to become my favourite group for
several years.
Born In The USA-Bruce Springsteen
This was the record that made me rediscover guitar based rock could
actually be good music too. I still respect this album a lot, and I
think Bruce Springsteen is one of the best North American songwriters
ever. (There aren't THAT many good ones over there.....)
10cc (Japanese Box Set)
With the present music at that time (around 1990) mainly being
worthless rubbish like rap and house I started buying music from the
60s and 70s instead. I had heard a lot of nice melodic pop songs by
10cc, which made me buy this box set. I was completely stunned by some
of the longer, more complex songs on this and after that I was
completely into progressive rock. If I hadn't bought this one I'd
probably never discovered the wonderful old 70s works by my recent
favourite group Genesis.
The Great Escape-Blur
The record that made me think there was some hope after all. After
years and years of being tortured by rap and house and other unmelodic
shit finally someone once more started writing GOOD SONGS, with REAL
VERSES and REAL CHORUSES, and......even more fantastic...... IT
SOLD!!!!!!!!!!
Half a year earlier I had bought records by Dodgy and Lightning Seeds,
but as opposed to Blur those groups were by then just some underground
thing only I liked. Bripop was the thing that finally once more made
me buy a lot of recent records.
Gondola Bob
In article <5jrhim$8...@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>, cow...@ix.netcom.com
(Persinthia Lawdro) wrote:
> 1. REM - Life's Rich Pageant
>
> This is essentially the album that showed me that there was more to heavy
> metal music in the world.
I just wanted to reprint that comment, in case anyone missed it.
> 3. Rolling Stones - Tatoo You
>
>I still think 'Tatoo You' is my favorite, though. At least, it's my
> most memorable.
I traded in "TATTOO You" quite awhile ago. I'd rank at least 15 Stones
albums above that one.
That said, there's no way I can narrow my list down to five. Here's twenty.
I don't know about them actually changing my LIFE, but they certainly
expanded my horizons in some significant way.
1. The Beatles 1962-1966
2. Pink Floyd/The Wall
3. David Bowie/The Rise & Fall of Ziggy Stardust...
4. Brian Eno/Another Green World
5. Velvet Underground/VU & Nico
6. Bob Dylan/Highway 61 Revisited
7. Laurie Anderson/United States Live
8. Beach Boys/Pet Sounds
9. Mothers of Invention/Uncle Meat
10. Tom Waits/Rain Dogs
11. This Mortal Coil/It'll End In Tears
12. Various Artists/Best Of Ralph
13. REM/Life's Rich Pageant (I discovered non-heavy metal music when I was
about six, however)
14. Butthole Surfers/Locust Abortion Technician
15. John Zorn/The Big Gundown
16. Captain Beefheart/Trout Mask Replica
17. Big Star/Sister Lovers
18. My Bloody Valentine/Isn't Anything
19. Can/Tago Mago
20. Robert Johnson/The Complete Recordings
Eb
Loomer
Ok, for me it was:
1. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
Discovered it long after its release, but it had a major impact just
the same. I was 16 clumsy and shy...
2. Dinosaur Jr - Green Mind
The guitar sound I always dreamed of come to life. Changed my whole
concept of amazing guitar playing. Feeling expressed through the vibes
of the entire song as a whole, rather than merely vocals, lyrics or
guitar tone. The credible guitar hero I always wanted to have :-)
3. Pixies - Doolittle
I always did wanna grow up to be a debaser, just didn't realise it
until I heard this.
4. The Replacements - Tim
The first 'Mats album I bought. Made me wish I'd been born a bit
earlier. Back catalogue never looked quite the same after this.
5. American Music Club - Mercury
The world's finest living barstool rock poet. Who'd never ever admit
to being one. Carousel melodies and the most aching torch songs I ever
felt. Soundtrack of my depression when I realised it wasn't
make-believe anymore.
Ohshitcanijustaddonemore Buffalo Tom's Let Me Come Over. Thanx.
Daniel Sassoon =-= Livonia online! http://home.pacific.net.sg/~dinosaur =-=
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We're killing each other by sleeping in."
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"I hate my generation. I offer no apologies."
- Cracker
fernando
In chronological order... I do not know about five. How can you shape life
around such a round number? =+) There is enough stress in life, without
having to fit everything into round numbers...
('77) Queen -- A Day At the Races :: It was the album that changed me from
a passive listener of radio to someone who buys records with a passion. This,
also began the air-drum training, which would later go beserk (zenith?)
when I got Quadrophenia a couple of years later.
('80) Joy Division -- Closer & ('80) Wire -- Pink Flag :: when all that you
listen to is prog and rock, and your roomate walks in and tells you, "can I
use your stereo, the lead singer from this band committed suicide..." and
the magic is unveiled on the first play -- and you realize that your record
collection is empty (although there is something there). Since then, I must
have averaged about once a week play for this one -- no exageration, even
17 years later. Then, he plays Pink Flag... and I chimed in "well, punk is
dead." Clinically at the time, perhaps, but not this album and definitely
not the band. They have become my two favorite bands.
('85) Blue Nile -- A Walk A Cross the Rooftops :: Wire's Pink Flag gave a
significance to the space between the songs with Pink Flag... Blue Nile did
that within the songs. I did not know that pop-music could be this grand.
It made pop a viable medium, beyond what I thought pop = top40. It is a
good filter to see who is a sensitive person...
('88) House of Love -- House of Love (first one) :: After the new wave
years... there is the magic of the guitar again, and the door to the indie
world is opened -- though this is more of the indie-major type. MBV soon
follows, with Isn't Anything. But, HoL was the door into that world. This
path is culminated by MBV's Soon a few years later.
('89) The Field Mice -- 'Sensitive' :: Hey, more indie crap to buy... and
although there is really a lot of crap in indie, the Field Mice made me go
into it and take risks and hope that something as sublime as what they do
would also be found somewhere else. Well, indeed, this led to labels such
as Sarah, Slumberland, Simple Machines, TurntableFriend, Summershine, and
Stereolab. All because of a little 7in single. Even if this single would
have led me only to Robert Wratten's absolutely wonderful Her Handwriting,
recorded as Trembling Blue Star, in 1996: it was definitely worth it.
('96) LFO -- Advance :: Always playing it safe with Techno, LFO showed that
the genre had matured beyond the whimsical (and stereotyped) 'boom-boom'. I
bought this album after listening to the first minute of 'ShutDown', and
clearly being moved. It was the first time that I am *driven* to buy a record
having listened to it in the store for less than a minute, since I heard
the intro to 'Don't Fall' from the wonderful Script of the Bridge by the
Chameleons.
This album is responsible for leading me into Photek, Orbital, Moby,
Autechre, Mu-ziq, etc. Kraftwerk did great things with electronic music,
but it seem to lack the emotion that LFO showed, at least to me, with this
album. The missing link between Kraftwerk and techno.
hope it was fun to read,
fernando
Ned: Are you still interested in the Disco Inferno single? Just curious.
Also to see if anyone actually reads this stuff, since there is no flames.
fl...@cornell.edu :: www.ee.cornell.edu/~fldv ::
"Do you ever wonder what is inside that keeps us together,
you ever want to take that knife and discover..." -- tindersticks
"Fingers first when you are digging shit" -- House of Love
"you would explode if she would touch there" -- cheap trick
R.D. Tunnicliffe
1: Sonic Youth: "Sister". Heard Catholic Block on the soundtrack of a
skate video (of all the places...). Rushed out and bought the album and
thus started my five year addiction to SY.
2: MBV: "Loveless". The wierdest album I had ever heard. Really brought
home to me how good music without conventional
structures/melodies/lyrics could be
3: Disco Inferno: "DI Go Pop". Just fucking beautiful.
4: Orbital: Brown Album. Made me realise that Techno could be more than
just headrush dance music.
5: Hmmm...
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Rick Tunnicliffe aka Jennifer Beanbag at rdt...@cam.ac.uk
Joe McGlinchey
Ah, what the hell...
Although there are so many classic albums out there, for me there have
only been three significant "musical revolutions" in my life, and so I
will only offer these three as records that..well..didn't change my life,
that's a bit too melodramatic, but they come to mind foremost as
momentuous "origin points" or watersheds, the first shot fired in moments
of intense musical listening (again, strictly from my own personal
experience):
REVOLVER- THE BEATLES
I first heard this when I was four years old, back in 1976. My Mom's
sisters in the Phillipines picked up a Japanese copy of this album (with
orange vinyl!!) and left it with me. I played it obsessively for the next
two years. In tandem with my Dad's Incredible String Band collection, I
grew up thinking the sitar was a "normal" instrument used in pop/rock/folk
recordings! It wasn't until years later in high school that I bought the
album again and it actually hit me how diverse and groundbreaking the
material was. Anyway, REVOLVER led me to pester my Mom into buying SGT.
PEPPER'S and ABBEY ROAD for me within the next year. My friend in
kindergarten, Debbie, and I would always play the first side of ABBEY. In
fact, I got her her own copy for her birthday party. She loved "Come
Together" and "Something"...getting her to finally come around to the
second side was like pulling teeth, but when she finally heard "Here Comes
the Sun", there was no looking back! :) Anyway, all of this started with
REVOLVER, still my favorite Beatles record. In fact, I couldn't think of
a better first introduction to rock and roll!
CLOSE TO THE EDGE- YES
[Amidst groans from the audience ;)]
When I was a thirteen year old, in 1985, I first heard "And You and I".
All of the girls in my school were crooning to Wham! ("You know that I
forgive you, just this once twice forevvvveer...:) "), and all the boys
were being macho to Motley Crue ("I'm on my waaaayyy, just set me
freeeeeee, Home Sweet Home!!!!")...:) But "And You and I" was completely
different...a song that was ten minutes long, with many different themes
and melodies that would undergo subtle transformations and development
throughout those ten minutes, with lyrics that didn't make one godamned
bit of sense at all but still managed to *sound* like they fit in with the
music perfectly well, with violin sounds that didn't sound like real
violins (the mellotron that today's bands have since appropriated; it's
nice to see, I think)...and it was a damned beautiful song. I probably
like it more than ever today. The subtitles for the song were dead-on
accurate: "Cord of Life" sounded vibrant, youthful, radiant..."Eclipse"
sounded dark, mysterious and even more beautiful..."The Preacher The
Teacher" sounded more mature, older...and "Apocalypse" sounded
like...well...Heaven! I can't remember hearing up till then a song that
was more evocative from nonsense- a song that could put such vivid
pictures in your head musically without saying anything directly. The
other tunes on that album, "Siberian Khatru" and "Close to the Edge", were
like that as well. It was such unearthly music to me back then--nowadays,
I admit I rarely listen to it, since I know it all by heart and there's
still so much to hear. But every time I *do* put it on, it never fails to
bring on a smile, and the magical quality is still there for me...
BIRDS OF FIRE- THE MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA
My first introduction to the John McLaughlin-led MO, I picked it up in the
Fall of 1993, my senior year of undergraduate schooling. This album
melted my ears off, *and* single-handedly lit the fuse for an interest in
jazz music (a genre I admit no previous love for). The instruments all
sounded like animals: a ferocious, proud lion (John McLaughlin's guitar),
a spiraling, graceful, predatory eagle (Jan Hammer's moog), a toothy,
snarling wolf (Jerry Goodman's violin) and a powerful, limber,
don't-fuck-with-me wild mustang (Billy Cobham's drumming)! The music
spanned from introspective and mystical ("Thousand Island Park" and
"Sanctuary") to angry, passionate, and still...clean-sounding ("Birds of
Fire", "One Word"). Beautiful stuff, and the musicians were all in firm
control: as like before, it sounded like stuff that had come from
somewhere else, somewhere not here...and, it opened the floodgates (Miles
Davis, John Coltrane, etc.).
Tawky Tawny
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997 07:50:29 GMT, ni...@pacificnet.net (Nick Nelson)
wrote:
>PS, TT, you have raised the level of discourse around here, keep it
>up!
Aw, shucks. Although if the level of discourse gets 'raised' to
anything like the civilised 'heights' of the rec.music. groups, I'm
outta here.
Thanks to anyone who's contributed or is contributing to this thread.
It's so far been very interesting indeed. As for why five? Why not? I
wanted to limit it pretty radically to stop my list turning into "TT
tells you the albums he likes...*again*".
Cheers,
Tom.
eb...@netcomuk.co.uk
"Calling music 'intense' or 'emotional' or 'soulful'
is usually a euphemism for 'it seems like something
I'm supposed to like' " - Chuck Eddy.
Nicole Bland
(in chronological order)
1. Grease soundtrack
2. Thriller - Michael Jackson
(first two records i owned, vinyl wore them out as i got old enough to use
the record plyer by myself woohoo )
3. Out of the Blue - Debbie Gibson
(wow, an album by a teenager practically my age, kinda motivated me to
start writing on my own)
4. Nevermind - Nirvana
5. Dog Man Star - Suede (screw that the London prefix crap)
(jus cos... )
*****************************************************************************
"I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is: I
only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments
that differentiate me from a doormat"
- Rebecca West
******************************************************************************
Persinthia Lawdro
In article <01bc5384$5e067040$85cc95ce@ELN/depmode>, dep...@earthlink.net
says...
>
>1. Goodbye Jumbo - World Party (best album of last 10 years)
Oh yes, one of my favorites as well. I'm so happy to know that Walinger and
company have a new album called 'Egyptology' due on May 20th. While I liked
'Bang' I hear that this one is gonna be a call back to the more simple
songwriting that made 'Goodbye Jumbo' such a masterpiece.
Tawky Tawny
>('89) The Field Mice -- 'Sensitive' :: Hey, more indie crap to buy... and
>although there is really a lot of crap in indie, the Field Mice made me go
>into it and take risks and hope that something as sublime as what they do
>would also be found somewhere else. Well, indeed, this led to labels such
>as Sarah, Slumberland, Simple Machines, TurntableFriend, Summershine, and
>Stereolab. All because of a little 7in single. Even if this single would
>have led me only to Robert Wratten's absolutely wonderful Her Handwriting,
>recorded as Trembling Blue Star, in 1996: it was definitely worth it.
Listen to what this man says, for he is wise indeed. The Field Mice's
'Sensitive' and Trembling Blue Stars' 'Abba On The Jukebox' are both
absolutely outstanding singles.
>Ned: Are you still interested in the Disco Inferno single? Just curious.
>Also to see if anyone actually reads this stuff, since there is no flames.
No flames here, though I don't agree with your comments on Kraftwerk's
music being unemotional.
Great post,
Geir Hongro
0012...@ysub.ysu.edu wrote:
>
>--Oooh, this thread looks like fun! :)
>
>1.) Blues Brothers --Briefcase Full of Blues (First album I bought.)
>2.) Talking Heads --Remain In Light (Second album I ever bought.)
Talking Heads? Second album you bought??
How old were you by then? What kind of music did you like when you
were 12?
--
Geir Hongro
New Homepage URL, same old shit:
http://home.sol.no/knhongro/Geir/
n...@acsu.buffalo.edu
Tori Amos, Boys for Pele
Fiona Apple, Tidal
Weezer, Pinkerton
Tricky, Maxinquaye
Tori Amos, Little Earthquakes
Nikki Johnson
*Recovering Christian*Voodoo Queen*Princess of all Nations*Toriphile*Violet
Beef Girl*Pro-Choice*Discomaniac*Stogie Smoker*Fan of Menage a Trois*
n...@acsu.buffalo.edu
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poundwi
Tawky Tawny wrote:
>
> ....or had the biggest impact on your taste, at least.
1. Gang of 4 "Songs of the Free"
OK. It's not as good as the two records before it, but after I borrowed it
from a friend, I threw all my Foreigner and Journey records in the closet and
never looked back. Brilliant mix of noise, dance and ambience.
2. Joy Division "Unknown Pleasures"
I bought this record and realized that there was someone as miserable as me. I
was a mazed that music so simple could be so powerful.
3. The Clash "The Clash"
This record, even more than the Sex Pistols, defined punk rock for me. It
wasn't a stale straight-jacketed genre.
4. Sonic Youth "Sister"
I remember sitting in a sunbeam, listening to the feedback loops wash over me.
I never thought about the guitar the same way again.
5. Fugazi "Repeater"
The new punk rock, marrying the non-guitar guitars of SY, the punk rock
innovation of the Clash, and the emotions of JD. This record set me off on a
whole new course, one I'm still following.
6. The Cure "Pornography"
I know, it's only supposed to be five. This record didn't really cahnge my
life, but I have to mention a Cure record because I became a disgusting Cure
addict for years. It's really too bad that they suck so bad now.
--
Russell
russ...@ssec.wisc.edu
=== Pound WI === Noisecore gone heartache. ===
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~russellh/lbpage.html
Brand-spankin-new CD:
Shut 'er down, Clancy. She's pumpin' mud...
hanging on your words
1. Goodbye Jumbo - World Party (best album of last 10 years)
3. The Alarm - Eye Of The Hurricane
4. Depeche Mode - Songs Of Faith And Devotion
5. Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack
Chan
--
"Alms for the poor
For the wretched disciples
And the love that they swore
With their hearts on the Bible
Beseeching the honour
To sit at your table
And feast on your holiness
As long as they're able."
M.L.Gore - The Love Thieves
Adam Cadre
Ned 'the Nanite' Raggett wrote:
> 2. The Mighty 690 AM radio station, weeknights, 1981 to 1982
> I had gotten my first radio, and this was the station I kept it on,
> and this is what I listened to every night during sixth grade. There
> was nothing else. It was nothing but total Top 40, nothing else --
> the playlist literally repeated, with tiny variations, about every
> two hours. Pure pop, REAL pure pop, because that was precisely what
> was played -- the popular hits. First introductions to New Wave,
> dance pop, funk, too many other things -- and, of course, Casey Kasem
> counting down the Billboard hits every Sunday.
Ding! We have a winner.
Sixth grade, first dinky radio, listened to the Mighty 690 countdown
every night. I can still remember the top three the first time I heard
it:
3. "Let the Music Play"
2. "Freak-a-Zoid"
1. "Thriller"
I remember one time the summer before sixth grade I was up in my
room listening to the Mighty 690 and had to go to the store with my
mom. We didn't have a radio in our car so I set up my radio next to my
tape recorder so I wouldn't miss anything. (Childhood logic at work.)
I ended up taping over it a couple months later to record a practice for
a class presentation. I would pay literally hundreds of dollars for
that tape today. Not just for the songs -- I'm sure I could track those
down if I really wanted to -- but the 1983-vintage commercials, the
little Mighty 690 jingle ("ecky-stay-airy-ah, Tee-hwana, Meh-hee-ko --
the Mighty Six-NINETY!"), and of course, the audio quality.
The "Heart-Shaped Box" single came out on August 31, 1993, three weeks
before the album, and I didn't own a radio. So I had my brother in
Anaheim tape the song off KROQ, call my place in Berkeley, and play it
for my answering machine. Listening to "Heart-Shaped Box" on my crappy
answering machine was a transcendent musical experience -- with the
audio quality it provided, it was JUST LIKE listening to the Mighty
690 on the sixth-grade bus... only instead of "Karma Chameleon" or
"Hold Me Now," it was the NEW NIRVANA SINGLE. To this day I associate
"Heart-Shaped Box" with sixth-grade field trips I took ten years
earlier.
-----
Adam Cadre, Durham, NC
obscure Captain America villain
http://www.duke.edu/~adamc
0012...@ysub.ysu.edu
--Oooh, this thread looks like fun! :)
1.) Blues Brothers --Briefcase Full of Blues (First album I bought.)
2.) Talking Heads --Remain In Light (Second album I ever bought.)
3.) R.E.M. --Document
4.) Pere Ubu --Datapanik In the Year Zero
5.) Elvis Costello and The Attractions --This Year's Model
--Yeah, I know, it's a bunch of old stuff! So be it...
--Geoff
avi levy
The record that change my life is:
Unknown pleasures - Joy Division.
I can say that my life was not the same after i heard this record for
the first time.
The greatest album ever made.
After a record like this there is no #2.
Avi Levy
avi...@inter.net.il
Michael Forrest Zink
1. "Freak Out!" - Mothers Of Invention
2. "Larks' Tongues In Aspic" - King Crimson
3. "The Beatles"
4. "Trout Mask Replica" - Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band
5. "Deep Purple In Rock"
-MZ-
Christian Jacobsen
JackieBlue, god...@planetc.com writes:
>This is pretty easy..
Erm...uhhh...OK, so I have read through about 25 posts, and I am
experiencing something very interesting. My musical tastes are as wide
as music itself, so I have gone through a lot of twists and bends in my
28 years...every one of those twists and turns have come back vividly in
the last 20 minutes!
There are pivotal albums for me in almost every genre. Here are the LP's
that sent me spinning off into the depths of many different types of
music.
1) Simon and Garfunkel, Sounds of Silence. This stayed on the old
turntable for few years straight. Mom and Dad never saw their old S&G
album again. What stories...what harmonies...what a joy. Went from here
to all the folkies like Arlo Guthrie, Jim Croce, to the country bin
including Hoyt Axton and Johnny Cash.
2) AC/DC, For Those About To Rock... The first LP I ever purchased. My
first concert as well. I far prefer side B to side A. This started my
real metal phase that ranged from Black Sabbath to Blue Oyster Cult, to
Iron Maiden, Scorpions, Accept, etc.
3) Motorhead, Motorhead. At first listen, I couldn't believe that this
music was legal! Soon to follow, Ace of Spades, Bomber, and No Sleep
'til Hammersmith (which I listened to every day for a year). This is
where I got into hardcore and punk...Anthrax, the Clash, The Stranglers,
The Dickies, The Buzzcocks, Toy Dolls, The Police, etc. Now manifests
itself in Rage Against The Machine, Offspring, Social Distortion, Green
Day, etc.
4) Al DiMeola, Elegant Gypsy. A twin introduction to Jazz and electronic
music. This was the first time that DiMeola relied entirely on the
Fairlight sequencer. From here I branched to the "west" to Weather
Report and John McLaughlin...music you couldn't just turn on...you had to
pay attention to it. To the "east" I branched into the old jazz
scene...Art Blakey, MJQ, Chet Baker, Stan Getz, Mose Allison, etc.
5) Glenn Miller, Remember Glenn. A two record set of Glenn Miller's best
hits came along and merged with my fascination with jazz. Suddenly I
found myself into swing music, and oddly enough, I connected from Swing
into the fledgling Ska scene in '80 or 81. Obviously the pivotal
recording of the time was The Specials self-titled debut, soon followed
by the Two-Tone compilation "This Are Two Tone". The swing side got
older and older, and I now have a record collection of some really
amazing old awing music, and I am an active participant in the booming SF
Swing Scene.
So there it is in a Glad trash bag (too big for a nutshell!).
Wow...what a trip! Thanks to TT for asking!
- Christian
Christian Jacobsen
>1.) Blues Brothers --Briefcase Full of Blues (First album I bought.)
>3.) R.E.M. --Document
>5.) Elvis Costello and The Attractions --This Year's Model
>
>--Yeah, I know, it's a bunch of old stuff! So be it...
Oh boy...PLEASE don't call this "old stuff"!!! Hell, I owned over 400
records before any of these came out!!!
I'm only 28...IAmNotOldIAmNotOldIAmNotOldIAmNotOldIAmNotOldIAmNotOld!!!
:)
- Christian
THE JOHNSONS
oasis
no doubt
weezer
bush
deicide
all of these made me want to kill myself,
Michael Forrest Zink
> >Talking Heads? Second album you bought??
> >
> >How old were you by then? What kind of music did you like when you
> >were 12?
>
> it was pretty cool, although what he'd make of something like "The
> Overload" is anyone's guess.
I was at the tender age of only 3 or 4 when I first laid my eyes on the
video
for "Once In A Lifetime", and I was hooked (although I obviously didn't
know it at the time). One of my all time favorite songs, and one of the
first I remember hearing. (Yes' "Tempus Fugit" is most likely the first
song I remember hearing. Hooked on that ever since, too.)
-MZ-
JackieBlue
Tawky Tawny wrote:
> I can imagine a 12-year old hearing "Once In A Lifetime" and thinking
> it was pretty cool, although what he'd make of something like "The
> Overload" is anyone's guess.
Yeah, I mean, I first heard Talking Heads when I was 9, when they were
on MTV a fair bit, and I absolutely LOVED "Burning Down the House". Of
course, at that time, my favorite albums were Michael Jackson's
-Thriller- and Buckner & Garcia's -Pac Man Fever- (which, yes, I STILL
have the tape of).
--
Rev. Jack Godsey - rental messiah, slam poet, anti-intellectual.
http://members.tripod.com/~spill/index.html
"It stands to reason if you spend your life in a pocket of
avoidance it will, one day, catch up to you. There are so
many levels of self-denial. The human mind is so twisted in
its rationalizations, and yet I knew it all along. I am a
pitiable, selfish fuck of a being."
- S. Malkmus
Alex Thomson
Let's try
Pixies - Doolittle
Pretty much defined several years of listening to late-eighties / early
nineties indie. Still an absolute classic.
Sabres of Paradise - Theme
When, like Tom with the Orb, I discovered that this repetitive beat
stuff had a lot going for it.
The Human League - Dare
When I rediscovered that I liked *pop* music.
Go-Betweens - Best of
Still better than any one of their albums, funnily enough. At this point
I handed all responsibility for affairs of the heart to Messrs. Forster
and Mclennan.
V/A - Isolationism
Marking my conversion to fully fledged Wire-reading pretentious fucker.
Obviously I thought it was absolute shit the first time I heard it.
Alex
0012...@ysub.ysu.edu
--If I could make an honorable mention for some albums I forgot to mention,
it would read as follows:
1.) The Clash --The Clash -This album epitomizes the punk spirit better than
any other album from the 1976-77 period, in my opinion.
2.) Husker Du --Metal Circus -Only got into the Huskers relatively recently,
but this is a good 'un. :)
3.) Einsturzende Neubataun --Strategies Against Architecture 80-83 -My first
piece of "industrial music". I probably spelled that wrong, but so be it...
4.) Kraftwerk --Autobahn -This album showed me that not all synth bands have to
sound like some awful synth-pop from the mid-80s like The Human League. Hey, I
like minimalism, okay? :)
5.) Wire --Pink Flag
--Okay, I'm done now. No flames about The Human League comment, okay? ;)
--Geoff
Matthew Maxwell
Well, well, well. I was never one to shy away from a good little
group-share thing like this.
Hmmm, let's see.....
Electric Light Orchestra - Out of the Blue
Yeah, who wasn't ten years old when this came out and didn't
totally love it? I didn't like the stuff that the Bad Kids
listened to (ie, Zeppelin, KISS, etc.) but found that this
stuff was right up my alley.
X - Los Angeles
I could put any number of other LA punk/HC bands in this
place, but X was the one wo really yanked my chain. Something
about the combination of Billy Zoom's rockabilly chainsaw guitar
and the twin vocals of Exene and John Doe really got to me. I
found that punk wasn't such a bad thing after all.
The Dream Syndicate - Days of Wine and Roses
Brain melting feedback. I could say more, but there's really
very little point.
The Bevis Frond - Inner Marshland
I didn't think that there was anyone really doing good
psychedelic music anymore. Boy was i wrong when a friend
showed me this little gem. Big screaming guitar and song-
writing that managed to cover a lot of bases and influences
at the same time.
Spacemen 3 - Playing with Fire
Kinda like what i felt when i heard DS for the first time, but
a whole lot more. Opened me up to whole chapters of musical
history and rather sealed my fate in terms of digging up the
really obscure psych/other stuff that influenced them. And a
bitchin record to boot.
Anyone else?
--
mmax...@primenet.com
"Sea monkeys are NOT PRIMATES!" -- Max, of Sam and Max
fernando
In article <33659d78...@nntp.netcruiser>, eb...@netcomuk.co.uk (Tawky
Tawny) wrote:
<+>On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:49:20 -0400, fl...@WITHOUT-THIS.cornell.edu
<+>(fernando) wrote:
<+>
<+>>In article <3363fa91...@nntp.netcruiser>, eb...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
<+>>
<+>><+>No flames here, though I don't agree with your comments on Kraftwerk's
<+>><+>music being unemotional.
<+>>
<+>> I should have been more careful. They do have emotion, although to me it
<+>>is a bit unidirectional -- cold and somber, which are emotions, definitely.
<+>>In my mind, some of the techno today does expand from this atmosphere
<+>>created by them.
<+>
<+>I still don't agree :)
you, you, you ... no problem =+)
<+>I couldn't link "Europe Endless" to any
<+>particular emotion, but I do know that it sounds to these ears
<+>delicate, haunting and thoroughly beautiful.
I agree... adjetives are many, to describe Kraftwerk's atmosphere. Indeed,
the better bands to be influenced by them, has been the atmosphere and not
so much the instrumentation... although some melodies are nicely stolen =+)
But, in as far as sadness, anger, etc., the way that I listen to Kraftwerk,
does not have these to the extreme of other bands that excel (Joy Division,
Wire, come to mind). Most of other songs, deviate slightly from this minimal
amount of emotions -- nothing is void of it, of course -- but the adjetives
area definitely still applicable. All the reasons why I am a big fans of
theirs.
<+>A
<+>lot of people, sadly including Liam Howlett if his comments in MUZIK
<+>are anything to go by, can't get past the fact that Kraftwerk once
<+>sang "We are the robots" and so glibly say 'Oh, Kraftwerk are so
<+>unemotional and their music is really inhuman'. I'm not accusing you
<+>of this exactly, but it's a pretty common reaction nonetheless.
I think so, and I do not ascribe to such a comment. It is sad, really,
people cannot get past the first layer. A KW record can be admired, from my
point of view, but it does not make me want to react in any way. This is
obviously fine, and not a drawback by any stretch of the imagination. To
me, they did one thing and did it brilliantly -- that beauty in a song can
be transcribed through more than a guitar and all else in rock.
My point is that, now, Orbital (latest) and LFO can do more than KW did
with regards to emotions (range and depth), thanks in great part to KW
having done the hardest part... and they noticing that it does not need to
be replicated. Obviously, Orbital had to go a bit of the progressive route
to get there...
It it more than a matter of opinion, since there is some empirical
characteristics to go on, as you pointed out with your choices of songs.
Perhaps, it is more to do with *how* one listens and the variations in
emphasis.
thanks,
fernando
**>Modify email on reply to have @cornell.edu :: www.ee.cornell.edu/~fldv ::
Michael Forrest Zink
> thinks that they are amazing. Pinkerton is a sacred thing to me and it
> actually did change my life. Weezer...*sigh*...bliss.
No you are not the only one. I think Weezer is one of the best bands to
come along in a looooooong time. Unfortunately, they are ofteen
dismisseed because of *when* they came around. No one who says "Weezer
sucks" has ever actually listened to them, because even though theey
don't have to like them, they need to give 'em the credit they deserve.
-MZ-
Kevin Lilly
Matt B Parisi wrote:
> 5. Husker Du -- Flip Your Wig:
> As a college freshmen, I got this CD because I liked the album cover
> and the name of the band. Easily the best impulse-purchase I've ever
> made, because I had not previously listened to anything remotely
> resembling "alternative" before, and this album opened that door for
> me. Just think, were it not for Husker Du, I could be one of those
> old-fart classic rock stalwarts who moan and groan about alt all day.
Along these lines, my best impulse purchase would have to be Husker Du's
New Day Rising. Awesome. Got me into into all those great SST (and
other labels) punk/hardcore bands.
To round out the the five:
Led Zeppelin: first album
Nirvana: Nevermind
Jane's Addiction: Ritual de lo Habitual
Minutemen: Double Nickles on the Dime
Kevin
Geir Hongro
eb...@netcomuk.co.uk (Tawky Tawny) wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:49:20 -0400, fl...@WITHOUT-THIS.cornell.edu
>(fernando) wrote:
>
>>In article <3363fa91...@nntp.netcruiser>, eb...@netcomuk.co.uk wrote:
>>
>><+>No flames here, though I don't agree with your comments on Kraftwerk's
>>
>> I should have been more careful. They do have emotion, although to me it
>
>I still don't agree :). I couldn't link "Europe Endless" to any
>particular emotion, but I do know that it sounds to these ears
>showbiz-paranoid Tricky should cover it. "Neon Lights" is utterly
>charming as a paean to urban living, and "Autobahn" is very funny. And
>I'm picking my examples very carefully from their robo-music period. A
>lot of people, sadly including Liam Howlett if his comments in MUZIK
Just please don't mention "Metal On Metal". Although I do like
most Kraftwerk stuff that particular song, and maybe "Trans Europe
Express" was the start of everything WRONG that has happened to
music ever since.
Geir Hongro
Michael Forrest Zink <dpg...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
>> >Talking Heads? Second album you bought??
>> >
>> >How old were you by then? What kind of music did you like when you
>> >were 12?
>>
>> it was pretty cool, although what he'd make of something like "The
>> Overload" is anyone's guess.
>
>video
>for "Once In A Lifetime", and I was hooked (although I obviously didn't
>know it at the time).
I relalise the video for "Once In a Lifetime" (or "Road To
Nowhere" for that sake...) might in itself catch the interest of
any kid. They sure did some great videos, those guys!
Geir Hongro
Jonny Larsen <jon...@online.no> wrote:
>5. Depeche Mode : "Construction Time Again"
> - It was a big leap, from Modern Talking to this record. Been a >fan ever since this album.
Finally someone other than me who recognices "Construction Time
Again" as the great record it was. IMO this is still the best
thing Depeche Mode have ever done. Even ALAN wrote a couple of
great songs for that one (plus their best ever b-side, "Fools")
Geir Hongro
THE JOHNSONS <"johnson6@johnson6"@millcomm.com> wrote:
>oasis
>no doubt
>weezer
>bush
>deicide
>
>all of these made me want to kill myself,
I thought Nirvana or Joy Division were the most appropriate bands
to listen to if you wanted to kill yourself.
JackieBlue
Michael Forrest Zink wrote:
> No you are not the only one. I think Weezer is one of the best bands to
> come along in a looooooong time. Unfortunately, they are ofteen
> dismisseed because of *when* they came around. No one who says "Weezer
> sucks" has ever actually listened to them, because even though theey
> don't have to like them, they need to give 'em the credit they deserve.
I REALLY don't like their first album, except for "Surf Wax USA" and
"Undone", but -Pinkerton- really is damn fine. They just needed time to
grow up.
JackieBlue
Alex Thomson wrote:
> Pixies - Doolittle
>
> Pretty much defined several years of listening to late-eighties / early
> nineties indie. Still an absolute classic.
I've always considered -Surfer Rosa- to be their best, but they're
pretty much all good..
Tawky Tawny
On Tue, 29 Apr 97 09:13:12 EDT, 0012...@ysub.ysu.edu wrote:
> --Okay, I'm done now. No flames about The Human League comment, okay? ;)
No flames, merely my usual reminder that whatever the Human League
sounded like when you heard them, their first two albums
"Reproduction" and "Travelogue" are among the most innovative
electronic music of the era - and given that era was the late 70s,
that's saying something. Not to do down the brilliance of "Dare",
which is better anyway, but people who dismiss HL as 'pop' usually
haven't heard the early records.
Tom.
eb...@netcomuk.co.uk
"Calling music 'intense' or 'emotional' or 'soulful' is
usually a euphemism for 'it seems like something I'm supposed
to like' " - Chuck Eddy.
Persinthia Lawdro
In article <33667D...@planetc.com>, god...@planetc.com says...
>
>Geir Hongro wrote:
>
>> I thought Nirvana or Joy Division were the most appropriate bands
>> to listen to if you wanted to kill yourself.
>
>Nope, the ultimate suicide bands are Red House Painters, Low, and Smog.
>Not because they're BAD, of course.
Might want to add Codeine, Spain and Bauhaus to that list.
--
****Notable NEW Releases****
Third Eye Foundation - Ghosts
Depeche Mode - ULTRA
Pugs - Pugs Bit The Red Knee (Could be the best album of the year!!)
A Metamatics Production - Metamatics Compilation
Supergrass - In It For The Money
kar...@pl.jaring.my
In article
<Pine.OSF.3.91.970429142...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>,
>
> > > oasis
> > > no doubt
> > > weezer
> > > bush
> > > deicide
> > >
> > > all of these made me want to kill myself,
> >
> > Man...OK, I agree with all of them, but Weezer. Am I the only one who
> > thinks that they are amazing. Pinkerton is a sacred thing to me and it
> > actually did change my life. Weezer...*sigh*...bliss.
>
Oasis,n doubt...weezer! oasis and nd sucks.Weezer rules!
so what if weezer is gonna open for n doubt? Rivers doesn't
really fancy the idea.
Kelvin.=w=#2422.
> No you are not the only one. I think Weezer is one of the best bands to
> come along in a looooooong time. Unfortunately, they are ofteen
> dismisseed because of *when* they came around. No one who says "Weezer
> sucks" has ever actually listened to them, because even though theey
> don't have to like them, they need to give 'em the credit they deserve.
> -MZ-
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Geir Hongro <knho...@online.no> wrote:
>Just please don't mention "Metal On Metal". Although I do like
>most Kraftwerk stuff that particular song, and maybe "Trans Europe
>Express" was the start of everything WRONG that has happened to
>music ever since.
And thank god for that.
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Nate Patrin
Here's my unimportant input:
-Pink Floyd, "The Wall": First heard about 1980. Because it was one of the
first pieces of music I really remember hearing, and my dad played it
incessantly. I still like it... it's very ethereal.
-BDP, "Edutainment": First heard in 1990. Suggested by my rap-addict
brother, it turned me onto hip-hop in a big way. The beats, the
sociological theory, the politics all hit me hard. I've sworn by KRS-One
since then.
-Nirvana, "Nevermind": First heard in 1991. I was a high school freshman
then. How the fuck could it NOT change my life?
-The Dead Kennedys, "Frankenchrist": First heard in 1994. I actually found
this at a used record store, when I still thought Green Day was cool. After
one listen to "This Could Be Anywhere" I promptly sold my copies of
"Ker-Plunk" and "Dookie" and haven't looked back. I still think this (and
their other albums) is what punk should have become, not all these little
mohawk throwbacks who think they're the Exploited.
-Beck, "Mellow Gold": First heard in 1995: I liked "Loser", but for some
reason I never picked up this album. Then I found it on vinyl and decided
to give it a shot. It knocked me on my ass, and while everyone else still
thought of him as "that Loser guy", I was blissing to "Steal My Body Home"
and "Soul Suckin' Jerk". I snapped up "One Foot in the Grave" a few months
later and loved that, too. Finally he released "Odelay" in '96, and when
the critics drooled over it I had to laugh to myself. A month before, those
idiots'd forgot about him, but I hadn't.
Honorable mention:
-Harthouse: The Point of No Return Chapter 1 (my first real exposure to
techno)
-The Clash: Sandinista! (some songs on that album that can only be called
"perfect")
-The Stooges: self-titled (the missing link between psychedelic and punk,
blew me away)
-De La Soul: De La Soul is Dead (one of the most fun hip-hop albums ever)
-Chemical Brothers: Dig Your Own Hole (the "Electric Ladyland" of
electronic music)
-DJ Shadow: Entroducing (one of the most beautiful albums of the decade)
-The Beastie Boys: Ill Communication (never before has one album made me
re-evaluate a whole band)
-Nate "no sigfile" Patrin
JackieBlue
Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
> >Nope, the ultimate suicide bands are Red House Painters, Low, and Smog.
> >Not because they're BAD, of course.
>
> Might want to add Codeine, Spain and Bauhaus to that list.
Nah, not really. Spain aren't DEPRESSING, just mild, and Bauhaus
flat-out ROCK about 90% of the time. RHP, Low, and Smog make possibly
the slowest, most tear-jerking music of all time. RHP's "Silly Love
Songs" and Low's "Something Beautiful" are the prime examples of this.
--
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Ned 'the Nanite' Raggett
Brian MacDonald wrote:
>
> Geir Hongro <knho...@online.no> wrote:
>
> >Just please don't mention "Metal On Metal". Although I do like
> >most Kraftwerk stuff that particular song, and maybe "Trans Europe
> >Express" was the start of everything WRONG that has happened to
> >music ever since.
>
> And thank god for that.
Indeed. Your willful marination in your own bile, Geir, is always
amusing -- especially when we so happily love what you hate, and
then, in some of our cases, also love what you love. How can you
stand yourself? *wink*
--
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Tawky Tawny
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997 18:59:34 -0400, JackieBlue <god...@planetc.com>
wrote:
>Alex Thomson wrote:
>
>> Pixies - Doolittle
>>
>> Pretty much defined several years of listening to late-eighties / early
>> nineties indie. Still an absolute classic.
>
>I've always considered -Surfer Rosa- to be their best, but they're
>pretty much all good..
How did I guess? :)
I've always found Surfer Rosa the weakest Pixies record - although, as
you say, when talking about a band of this calibre all things are
relative. Why? I think the band benefit more from the cleaner
production of Gil Norton than from Albini's ragged and unsympathetic
approach - they always made a better surf or pop or hard rock band
than they did a punk one. Secondly, I think that Black Francis'
lyric-writing progressed hugely as time went on. His songs on Surfer
Rosa are hugely imaginative, but thematically are tied to the fairly
standard alt. territory of violence and fucking. On later albums he
broke open his subject matter until by the time of Trompe Le Monde, he
was writing about anyrhing he liked - aliens, architecture, T-Shirts,
birds dreaming of Mars - and doing so beautifully.
The music reflected this open-ness, becoming more diverse with each
release, which of course prompted critical drubbings from those who
loved the earlier stuff. So it goes.
Tom.
eb...@netcomuk.co.uk
"It's not easy being cheesy!" - Geri Halliwell, Spice Girl
Geir Hongro
"Nate Patrin" <patr...@tc.umn.edu> wrote:
>-Chemical Brothers: Dig Your Own Hole (the "Electric Ladyland" of
>electronic music)
Why? It doesn't even SOUND electronic. Chemical Brothers play ROCK
rather than electronic music.
JackieBlue
Tawky Tawny wrote:
> >I've always considered -Surfer Rosa- to be their best, but they're
> >pretty much all good..
>
> How did I guess? :)
>
> I've always found Surfer Rosa the weakest Pixies record - although, as
> you say, when talking about a band of this calibre all things are
> relative. Why? I think the band benefit more from the cleaner
> production of Gil Norton than from Albini's ragged and unsympathetic
> approach - they always made a better surf or pop or hard rock band
> than they did a punk one. Secondly, I think that Black Francis'
> lyric-writing progressed hugely as time went on. His songs on Surfer
> Rosa are hugely imaginative, but thematically are tied to the fairly
> standard alt. territory of violence and fucking. On later albums he
> broke open his subject matter until by the time of Trompe Le Monde, he
> was writing about anyrhing he liked - aliens, architecture, T-Shirts,
> birds dreaming of Mars - and doing so beautifully.
Well, point in fact, for a LONG time -Doolittle- was MY favorite too,
but after listening to them all a bunch of times, -Surfer Rosa- is the
one that I find ENDURES the most. -Doolittle- is fantastic for pop
songs, for singing along, but -Surfer Rosa- just has a more interesting
sound.
As for Black Francis' lyrical skillz, there are only a few Pixies' songs
where I actually care about what the words are in any kind of
"meaningful" sense. I've always considered him to be intentionally
silly and flippant with his lyrics (like writing a song based on a gay
mexican roommate he once had).
I like how the bass comes through clearer on -Surfer Rosa-, and the
drums are more powerful, and I LIKE that jagged guitar squeal.
That said, I'd say -Trompe Le Monde- and -Bossanova- are almost exactly
as good as -Doolittle-. The Pixies are one of those rare bands (like
the Flaming Lips, Camper Van Beethoven, or the Beastie Boys) where all
their albums are throw-down amazing.
--
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Persinthia Lawdro
In article <336805...@planetc.com>, god...@planetc.com says...
>
>Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
>
>> >Nope, the ultimate suicide bands are Red House Painters, Low, and Smog.
>> >Not because they're BAD, of course.
>>
>> Might want to add Codeine, Spain and Bauhaus to that list.
>
>Nah, not really. Spain aren't DEPRESSING, just mild, and Bauhaus
>flat-out ROCK about 90% of the time. RHP, Low, and Smog make possibly
>the slowest, most tear-jerking music of all time. RHP's "Silly Love
>Songs" and Low's "Something Beautiful" are the prime examples of this.
If you listen to what Josh is talking about in Spain's lyrics, you could get
lost in depression. I consider them to be very much in the same vein as Low.
If you watch Josh up close while he sings his tales of love gone lost, you'd
feel as if he was taking you there with him. As it turns out, I've seen Spain
and Low perform several times live together, and while I love Low's music,
the conviction in Josh's voice is what makes Spain a real attention getter.
Low didn't do much for me. The girl, I don't know her name, sang with her
back turned towards the audience and it felt very distant. Bauhaus may rock,
but even their rockier tunes have that feeling of dispair and uncomfort. I'd
throw in some Magnog, Main and Bowery Electric for some great s-l-o-w as hell
but mesmerizong songs.
--
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Third Eye Foundation - Ghosts
Depeche Mode - ULTRA
Pugs - Pugs Bit The Red Knee (Could be the best album of the year!!)
Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy
Charlatans - Tellin Stories
JackieBlue
Geir Hongro wrote:
> Why? It doesn't even SOUND electronic. Chemical Brothers play ROCK
> rather than electronic music.
I want some of what Geir smokes. The Chemical Brothers "play" "rock
music"? Where do you get that? When they play live, do they have
guitars (or any other non-electronic instruments) in their hands?
Almost all of their songs consist of a looped riff, a looped beat, a few
samples, and miscellaneous noise. Sorry to tell you, but that's pretty
much a textbook DEFINITION of electronic music.
--
Rev. Jack Godsey - rental messiah, slam poet, Outsider.
Persinthia Lawdro
In article <336876...@planetc.com>, god...@planetc.com says...
>
>Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
>
>> Low didn't do much for me. The girl, I don't know her name, sang with her
>> back turned towards the audience and it felt very distant.
>
>at least on every Low song I've heard, in in the few Low videos I've
>seen.
I know he does all the singing, but she does do backup vocals and sings live
as well. Anyways, point being they seemed very distant live.
Geir Hongro
JackieBlue <god...@planetc.com> wrote:
>Geir Hongro wrote:
>
>> Why? It doesn't even SOUND electronic. Chemical Brothers play ROCK
>> rather than electronic music.
>
>I want some of what Geir smokes. The Chemical Brothers "play" "rock
>music"? Where do you get that? When they play live, do they have
>guitars (or any other non-electronic instruments) in their hands?
>Almost all of their songs consist of a looped riff, a looped beat, a few
>samples, and miscellaneous noise. Sorry to tell you, but that's pretty
>much a textbook DEFINITION of electronic music.
I KNOW they use electronics, but their backing track does not
sound that way, becouse they use samplers and digital synths
rather than analog synths. Archetypical techno- and synth groups
use ANALOG synths.
Matt B Parisi
In <354dfb44...@news.blarg.net> lo...@mysig.com (future) writes:
>
>
>On 29 Apr 1997 04:53:03 GMT, ltri...@ix.netcom.com(Matt B Parisi)
>wrote:
>>6. Neil Young -- Everybody Knows this is Nowhere:
>>This album did not really get me into Neil Young (already owned
Freedom
>>and Ragged Glory), nor did it open any other musical doors for me.
It
>>just happens to be my favorite album by The World's Greatest Living
>>Rock and Roll Figure.
>
>For some reason I've never been able to stand Neil Young. I hate his
>voice and I hate his music. Sounds like dirty dishwater to me... I
>don't know why.
Yeah, I was pretty much of the same opinion of Neil Young before I had
heard any of his albums all the way through and was only casaully
acquaited with his music. Then I heard "Rockin' in the Free World" on
the radio and it seemed to have a lot more energy than the usual songs
that are in heavy rotation by him on the AOR stations.
I picked up the album and, about a year later, was totally hooked.
But yeah, I can see where somebody just couldn't get past that voice.
Still, love it or hate it, it's one of the most distictive sounds in
rock music.
Matt P
Kevin Lilly
JackieBlue wrote:
>
> Geir Hongro wrote:
>
> > Why? It doesn't even SOUND electronic. Chemical Brothers play ROCK
> > rather than electronic music.
>
> I want some of what Geir smokes. The Chemical Brothers "play" "rock
> music"? Where do you get that? When they play live, do they have
> guitars (or any other non-electronic instruments) in their hands?
> Almost all of their songs consist of a looped riff, a looped beat, a few
> samples, and miscellaneous noise. Sorry to tell you, but that's pretty
> much a textbook DEFINITION of electronic music.
I've been lurking around for a while and I must say this may be the
first time I agree with Geir. Just because the music was made with
loops and samples, etc. does not mean it can't be rock. The new album
ROCKS. In my book that makes it Rock 'n' Roll. I don't deny that it
may also be classified as electronic. Come up with all the categories
you want, but I'll listen to it all and call it rock.
kevin
Adam J. Ostermann
> Persinthia Lawdro wrote:
>
> > Low didn't do much for me. The girl, I don't know her name, sang with her
> > back turned towards the audience and it felt very distant.
>
> Uh.. we talking about the same Low here? Cause Low's singer is a guy..
> at least on every Low song I've heard, in in the few Low videos I've
> seen.
Alan sings lead on about 75% of the songs, with Mimi as backup. Mimi does
go solo
on "Shame" (which was a video, and a depressing one at that), "Slide,"
"The Plan,"
"See-Through" and a few others. And in the four Low shows I've gone to, Mimi has
always faced the audience. The same can't be said for the bassist Zak,
though. ;-)
Adam
****************************************************
Adam J. Ostermann
and don't you forget it
-----------------------------------------------------
Geir Hongro
Kevin Lilly <kli...@neog.com> wrote:
>Just because the music was made with
>loops and samples, etc. does not mean it can't be rock. The new >album
>ROCKS. In my book that makes it Rock 'n' Roll. I don't deny >that it
>may also be classified as electronic. Come up with all the >categories
>you want, but I'll listen to it all and call it rock.
I guess the most correct label would be "industry". Musically
Chemical Brothers have a lot more in common with Ministry and
Skinny Puppy than they have with Leftfield, Orbital and The Orb.
Ned 'the Nanite' Raggett
Geir Hongro wrote:
[Re:Chemical Brothers]
> I guess the most correct label would be "industry".
The thing is, nowadays this *is* a pretty accurate label, at least in
America! *wink*
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Tawky Tawny
On 1 May 1997 10:34:09 GMT, Geir Hongro <knho...@online.no> wrote:
>"Nate Patrin" <patr...@tc.umn.edu> wrote:
>
>>-Chemical Brothers: Dig Your Own Hole (the "Electric Ladyland" of
>>electronic music)
>
>Why? It doesn't even SOUND electronic. Chemical Brothers play ROCK
>rather than electronic music.
They play all sorts of things - you can't really call a track like
"Private Psychedelic Wheel" electronic, but OTOH something like "It
Doesn't Matter" is a fair way away from rock.
The music chemical brothers play is really most influenced by the
earliest UK DJ-house records (Coldcut, MARRS, etc.), which in turn
were heavily influenced by pioneers of instrumental hip-hop like
Steinski and Grandmaster Flash. This is the same lineage that DJ
Shadow is in, except the Chemicals add rock influences and some techno
sounds (and I doubt Shadow knows or cares much about the 87-88 UK
scene: maybe if he did his record would be a bit more fun.)
T.
eb...@netcomuk.co.uk
With thanks to the good people of Enfield Southgate.
Rum Junky
Interesting Thread. My five would have to be, (In no particular Order)
1) Circle Jerks- Wonderful
2) Leonard Cohen- The Future
3) Devo- Are We Not Man? We Are Devo
4) The Exploited- Troops Of Tomorrow
5) Ween- GodWeenSatan
*That is all, goodnight*
M.A. Murphy
I don't know that I could claim that any recording has changed my life.
Every album I listen to shapes my being, some profoundly and some
imperceptibly. Like most lists of this type I find it impossible
to limit myself to just 'n'.
If this seems like an excessive list, keep in mind that what is
listed here represents less than 1% of the recordings that I own and
less than 0.5% of all the music I've heard in my lifetime.
Here are some recordings that have had a profound effect on my being,
listed roughly in the order that I first heard them:
Queen A Night At the Opera
Alan Parsons Project I, Robot
Parliament Mothership Connection
Jennifer Warnes Famous Blue Raincoat
Jane Siberry The Speckless Sky
Silos Cuba
Mekons So Good it Hurts
Yank Rachell Chicago Style
Cowboy Junkies Trinity Session
Napalm Beach Liquid Love
Tuck & Patti Tears of Joy
Gregson & Collister Mischief
John Zorn Naked City
Tim Buckley Dream Letter - Live in London
Pere Ubu Cloudland
Frank Sinatra The Reprise Collection
John Gorka Jack's Crows
Morphine Good
Archie Roach Charcoal Lane
Klezmatics Rhythm & Jews
Caspar Brotzmann Massaker Koksofen
Sheila Chandra The Zen Kiss
Tarnation Gentle Creatures
Mary Ann Farley Daddy's Little Girl
Tarnation Mirador
The Sinatra collection was neat in that I knew most of the songs, but
they had been on the periphery of my existence. Theme songs, commercials,
etc. When this collection came out it was the first time I'd really
sat down with the intention of listening to Sinatra.
Also, various releases by the following:
Richard & Linda Thompson, Triffids, Beatles, Velvet Underground,
Kirk Kelly, Big Star/Alex Chilton, Sonic Youth, Uncle Tupelo,
Bongwater, Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, Cafe Noir, Camper Van Beethoven,
Captain Beefheart, Danny Gatton, Gear Daddies, Raspberries, Husker Du,
Plimsouls/Peter Case, Cat Power, Nick Cave, Elliott Sharp/Carbon,
Cibo Matto, Tackhead, Bruce Cockburn, Cocteau Twins, John Coltrane,
Miles Davis, Sonny Rollins, Thelonious Monk, Cramps, Neil Young,
Southern Culture On the Skids, Nick Drake, Suzanne Vega, Led Zeppelin,
Brenda Kahn, Minutemen/fIREHOSE, Roky Erickson/13th Floor Elevators,
E, W & F, Game Theory, Ted Hawkins, John Hiatt, Sara Hickman,
Blind Willie Johnson, Robert Johnson, Jon Spencer Blues Explosion,
Robyn Hitckcock, Janis Joplin, Ingrid Karklins, Garmarna, Kukuruza,
Tommy Keene, Pat Kilbride, Junior Kimbrough, R.L. Burnside, CeDell Davis,
Deep Blues Soundtrack, Albert King, Tab Benoit, Laibach, Oliver Lake,
Jennifer Trynin, Tom Waits, Les Negresses Vertes, Lois, Los Lobos,
Meters, Neville Brothers, Frank Morgan, Mr. Bungle, Pogues, Tiny Lights,
Palace (Music, Brothers, Songs), Pavement, PJ Harvey, Wally Pleasant,
Prince, Red Devils, Replacements, Happy Rhodes, Rolling Stones, Rufus,
Wipers/Greg Sage, September 67, Chris Whitley, Jamaladeen Tacuma,
Zap Mama, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Ani DiFranco
I'm sure I've left something important out... This list barely
touches on jazz, blues or avante garde.
Reviews of quite a few of the albums I mention are available at the
URL listed in my .sig. There are also reviews there of material by many
of the artists listed directly above.
-------
Murph
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you will not understand my words.
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Tawky Tawny
On 4 May 1997 18:25:01 GMT, Geir Hongro <knho...@online.no> wrote:
>The point is there is VERY little Kraftwerk or Depeche Mode
>inspiration in their records. Since they aren't really inspired by
>analog synth music they are industrial rather than techno.
Geir, the Chemical Brothers don't sound remotely like industrial
music, no matter what they used. In fact, a huge amount of techno
doesn;t use analog equipment any more. And plenty of industrial bands
used analog synth equipment along with tape loops and found sounds. At
least you know something *about* synthpop and britpop, but you're on
incredibly shaky ground here.
T,
Gondola Bob
In article <336d63b1...@nntp.netcruiser>, eb...@netcomuk.co.uk (Tawky
Tawny) wrote:
> On 4 May 1997 18:25:01 GMT, Geir Hongro <knho...@online.no> wrote:
>
> >The point is there is VERY little Kraftwerk or Depeche Mode
> >inspiration in their records. Since they aren't really inspired by
> >analog synth music they are industrial rather than techno.
>
> Geir, the Chemical Brothers don't sound remotely like industrial
> music, no matter what they used. In fact, a huge amount of techno
> doesn;t use analog equipment any more. And plenty of industrial bands
> used analog synth equipment along with tape loops and found sounds. At
> least you know something *about* synthpop and britpop, but you're on
> incredibly shaky ground here.
Why does every promising thread have to erode into yet another damn
discussion of trendy British techno? :(
Eb
phoenix.hawk
>I guess the most correct label would be "industry". Musically
>Chemical Brothers have a lot more in common with Ministry and
>Skinny Puppy than they have with Leftfield, Orbital and The Orb.
I sincerely hope you're joking.
phoenix.hawk
JackieBlue
Geir "Melody" Hongro wrote:
> I guess the most correct label would be "industry". Musically
> Chemical Brothers have a lot more in common with Ministry and
> Skinny Puppy than they have with Leftfield, Orbital and The Orb.
I'm wondering if Geir's even HEARD a Skinny Puppy album, especially a
pre-1990 one. The Chemical Brothers aren't NEARLY as consistently
complex or creative as them.
--
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Tawky Tawny
On Sun, 04 May 1997 09:09:49 +0000, Ned 'the Nanite' Raggett
<ned.deat...@kuci.org> wrote:
>
>Tawky Tawny wrote:
>
>> He also sums up
>> the way the British rock and pop tradition is so stymied and muffled
>> when it focusses on the past as opposed to pursuing modernism and
>> novelty, whereas white American music seems more able to use its
>> musical past constructively.
>
>We do? I tend to see equal amounts of similar fetishism, but just
>focused on more modern touchstones [Black Flag, Sonic Youth, etc.],
>and as with the Beatles, most of the imitators rein themselves into
>obvious pathways rather than mind-blowing weirdouts, which is
>why MBV's "Soon" is so striking, for instance. But who or what
>Americans are you referring to in your comment?
Well, now you pin me down, I can't name any, which rather proves your
point :). Palace maybe. I guess the fact that the idolised reference
points you mention *are* more modern makes the fetishisation less
irksome to me.
If I had to say something, though, I might mention the fact that so
many Americans have such a respect for their local scene, which seems
to consist of bands drawing on the 'rock tradition' of playing live,
sweating, getting out and rocking, etc. This isn't really something we
have in the UK, where any half-decent live band probably will get some
kind of national attention fairly quickly, and where rockin' live
bands are harder to come by anyhow. The gritty, rootsy, dues-payin'
idea of rock isn't one I have much time for, but in America it seems -
at a distance, admittedly - to be more authentic and honest than
Weller's (and his ilk in Ocean Colour Scene etc) adoption of blues and
r'n'b tropes to show that he 'got soul' on national pop TV.
T.
Seth Robson
A toughie, indeed. Five in roughly chronological order:
New Order, "Brotherhood"
David Sylvian, "Secrets of the Beehive"
Steel Pole Bath Tub, "Tulip"
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, "Extra Width"
Stereolab, "Mars Audiac Quintet"
Seth.
--
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Pop culture, music, and other soft & fluffy things.
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phoenix.hawk
I'll assume we're being honest here, so in chronological order:
Tool - Undertow
First record I really, really, really loved.
nine inch nails - the downward spiral
More than half of what I listen to today (ie everything industrial and
electronic) is derived from my purchase of this record immediately after
seeing the march of the pigs video on MTV late one night. The only
reason I bought it was because it was cheaper than the Pink Floyd CD I
also wanted.
My Bloody Valenting - Loveless, Codeine - The White Birch, Sunny Day
Real Estate - Diary
The three best "rock" albums ever recorded. Got into them all at
basically exactly the same time, they all have a similar feel if very
different modus operandi.
Underworld - dubnobasswithmyheadman and Skinny Puppy - Last Rights
I listened to these records incessantly for about 2 months, usually at
about 3-5am. A real descent into something that I'm not really sure I
could pin down.
Einsturzende Neubauten - Drawings of a Patient OT
Might as well list the whole catalog, but I have been a Neubauten fan
for quite a while and this was the record that really packs the punch...
indescribably awesome.
More 5 phases than 5 records.
phoenix.hawk