I noticed this about the TMF...
disruptiveforce
to. Some people seem to take a sense of moral superiority. All
because they chose to be a member of the "awesome" TMF. They thumb
their noses at anyone who would enjoy the free-flowing style of
newsgroups.
Here's the truth. 1. Neither TMF or this newsgroup are superior,
they each offer different things to different people. It is all a
matter of choice as to whcih one you participate in. 2. This is the
Internet, it's not the real world. Anyone who thinks they are
superior because they join any website really needs a check of their
self-esteem.
Sean Carroll
(disruptiveforce) wrote:
>Here's the truth. 1. Neither TMF or this newsgroup are superior,
>they each offer different things to different people. It is all a
>matter of choice as to whcih one you participate in.
Some of us rarely post to either but often read both, because we have
none of this need to set ourselves up as a member of One of the Great
Opposing Social Groups of Ticklephiles, and are just fucking looking
for pictures and stories related to the subject that's supposed to be
the purpose for both groups existing.
Josie the ticklish pussycat
news:a1nh1vc36nvm6568d...@4ax.com...
I read both and post to both.. I agree that each has its own pros and
cons... one thing I can say about here that isn't the case on tmf is that
you can share LARGE files without having a website. As many know, you need
to host pics and clips you plan to post on TMF... some just don't have the
space or savvy to set this up... so being able to post here is great.
On that note, I attempted to post several tickle toons here on New Year's
and they never went through. I tried crossposting to ABMET as well, but that
didnt work either. Any suggestions? For the record, my news server is
through Road Runner.
ticklishly yours,
Josie
--
===
Josie the ticklish pussycat
http://josie.duh.org:69
jo...@duh.org
AIM/Yahoo: josie1973
MSN: akajos...@hotmail.com
All email and files from this account were
scanned by Norton AntiVirus 2002
"If you ever want to get away with murdering
someone, just tickle them to death. What jury
would convict you for that?" - Jeff Reuter
Nostradamas
disruptiveforce <disruptiv...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Nice post D-Force.
You raised some valid and interesting points.
The last two words you typed really hit home for me: self esteem.
The TMF sees itself as a "Safe Haven" from the internet/real world.
The feather rankings and emoticons make for a safe clubhouse, no?
A sense of community, and "belonging" ensue. They are loyal to it and rally
behind it. Not a bad thing at all. Just a natural reaction.
But when Drew70 entertained the notion that something of interest may be
happening at AMT, it was met with "AMT Sucks....Long Live TMF" replies. Then
it drew (no pun intended) out the TMF members who also visit AMT to respond
to the "off-topic" topic. Namely "Bella" who engaged in a spirited and
insightful discussion with Drew. The TMF's version of a troll then entered
the fray, posting a lame obvious flame bait: Drew70, you have way too much
time on your hands.
I'll spare the board the enclosed Styx lyrics, and the equally Un-Funny
breakdown of Drew's supposed "schedule". I wanted to bitch-slap that guy
and the mods who let that stand, then deleted Drew's reply. If they're gonna
let it go *that* far.....
It flat out *sucks*, any way it's rationalized....to have your voice/ideas
taken, or censored. Whatever word makes ya feel justified.
It
Doc
selective censorship can really really suck
Wyane Duckett
> Arrogance from certain people. I went and read the thread referred
> to. Some people seem to take a sense of moral superiority. All
> because they chose to be a member of the "awesome" TMF. They thumb
> their noses at anyone who would enjoy the free-flowing style of
> newsgroups.
They (TMF) acts like they can do no wrong and act as if they were God
Himself.
The level of hypocrisy there is mind-boggling.
Intelligent debate is hardly allowed. But forced-worship of the "TMF
gods" is mandetory.
You cannot even have an opinion there, unless of course the
Holier-than Holy TMF mods have the same opinion.
Wyane Duckett
> to. Some people seem to take a sense of moral superiority. All
> because they chose to be a member of the "awesome" TMF. They thumb
> their noses at anyone who would enjoy the free-flowing style of
> newsgroups.
The TMF is really nothing more than a group of people who think
they're "cool" because they have their own web page. Then they think
their "gods" because they can ban people and/or remove postings on a
whim
You cannot even post anything, unless it is covered with praises for
TMF and their "god-like mods".
It's really kind of pathetic, that you need to fall head-over-heels in
worship with the moderators, or face their "holy wrath".
Even TIB is not questioned and when he is, the mods step in to protect
him.
Intelligent discussion is not allowed (unless of course your opinions
agree with the moderators), while forced worship of TIB and his "gods"
are a requirement.
Super Sensitive
community, and are the ultimate authority on tickling. There are a lot of
people who know a lot about tickling. What happened to people just coming out
and sharing their fears, likes/dislikes, pictures, videos, etc. What is up with
all this high and mighty stuff? Who cares! We are all just people who share
this fascination in tickling. So, why can't we just share and quit trying to
topple people that don't have a web site or message board and make them seem
like they are small and meaningless because of that. Tickling is not about who
has the best web site, most pictures, etc. It is a something that we do and
either love or like. I do it for an action out of love and friendship. I love
laughter, the way tickling feels, what it does to you, etc. Tickling is great.
But no one is over the other because they have a flashy web site or forum about
it. Big deal. It is not about that. This has turned into a huge popularity
contest, when there is no contest. We all just love tickling and want to share,
but it shouldn't be about who is the best or the cutest with the best web site
about it. It really doesn't matter. I love the video companies that are not out
for profit. The ones that truly love tickling and want to express it by making
videos, but not because they want to attack a profit-making area . . . "There
are lots of people who like tickling, so let's make tickling videos because we
can money off of it." --Profit Tickling Videos
You know what I am talking about. The ones who want you to pay for every little
thing they post. 5 dollars per 5 minute preview clip, 10 dollars a month to see
all the pictures, and 60 dollars per video... even though.... the big chance
is.... they are just acting everything out.... and it isn't real to begin with.
I have an appreciation for those that make videos because they love tickling.
For instance, frenchtickling.com has preview clips, pictures, etc. And leave it
up to you to decide. They are not trying to say they are the bomb. They are
just there for whoever wants to get in on it. That is how it should be. The
others... just want money... feel me? I want real tickling and free previews,
pay for it if I want all of it.
Most of us really like tickling, so those who think they are high and mighty
need to get a reality check. I don't give them a second of my time. What
arrogance. Thanks.
-Denise Green
Vryticklishfeet
then when you feel the need to bash come here and knock yourself out bro, just
combine the two,,the people on that site dont own it most are only members,, i
happen to know that many of them sneak in here to enjoy our unrestricted
banter,, they dont post because then they would be 2 faced,,,
Vryticklishfeet
speech,, the trick is to go straight for the pics and vids,, disregard
everything else,,its the same with all things in life,, take what you like and
leave what you dont
optonline
narrow-minded people here than in TMF. No One is perfect. Either here or
there. I have been coming to this Newsgroup longer than I have been a
member/mod of TMF. I enjoy the photos and files of both. Unless you are a
member of the TMF I suggest you shut up and find out before you jump on the
bandwagon of the flame throwers. Just to let you know. The MODS were created
for the original TMF chat room to help keep the racial and personal attacks
of the scrip kiddies in check so the people there could enjoy a free flowing
conversation without being attacked. Since Myriad ( out of his own pocket I
might add ) installed and set up the new room. we are not getting hits 99.9%
of the time. Yes. We might not all agree. but at least we talk to each other
or defend our positions. Yes some folks get out of control and a MOD is now
there to keep the room from getting too out of hand. ( cursing out fellow
chatters ) But that is all. We have Trivia night ( no not sexual trivia ) on
Sundays. All of this is free for anyone. Before you Flame. at least find out
what it is all about. it is FREE.
fttickler
"Vryticklishfeet" <vrytick...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Vryticklishfeet
cancell my membership
Wyane Duckett
Finally a voice of reason. I agree that their ego has gotten way too
big for their britches. Having a flashy web page does not
automatically make you "the only authority" on ANY subject, regardless
what the "TMF gods" want you to believe.
Wyane Duckett
You And Jeremy are the 2 people here who make any sense and do not
worry about speaking your minds, and do not worry about the
oh-so-powerful "TMF gods" and their "army of mindless disciples" who
have nothing better to do, rather than drooling over themselves.
I have to respect that.
Drew70
environment, and when I suggested it might be a better forum without the
censorship, I was in the vast minority. However, I've held a few good
debates and participated in some interesting discussions. I felt my
opinions were considered as much as anybody else's for the most part.
You got to figure there are going to be cliques and so forth in any forum,
as well as outright assholes. We've got them here at AMT and they have them
there at the TMF. If flames or bantering disturbs people, and you'd be
surprised just how many folks are unable or unwilling to deal with such
things, then the TMF is probably a better forum for these folks. If on the
other hand, you don't mind watching a flamefest or perhaps you would enjoy
participating in one from time to time, then AMT is a better place.
I feel the flames add something to this newsgroup. Not the mindless "you
suck" crap, but rather the clever, well executed comebacks, and thoughtful
insults. That flame I took from Chimneysweep wasn't bad, really. Used my
picture as the punchline, which is generally an effective tactic. Not too
shabby, all in all. Had he worded it a little better and sent it sooner, it
could have been a first rate flame. But at least he took some time to take
it beyond "you suck" or "fuck you" and put a little thought into it.
Hopefully he didn't shoot his wad on that one and will provide some further
entertainment. :)
Wyane Duckett
> Considering I am one of the people you are bashing. I think there are more
> narrow-minded people here than in TMF. No One is perfect. Either here or
> there. I have been coming to this Newsgroup longer than I have been a
> member/mod of TMF. I enjoy the photos and files of both. Unless you are a
> member of the TMF I suggest you shut up and find out before you jump on the
> bandwagon of the flame throwers
Ahhhh, and thank you for making my point
Another "Holier than God" TMF mod demanding the people worship and
drool over his every word.
Why don't you preach your little talk to your little "Yes, Moderator,
anything you say, Moderator" group? I'm sure they'll eat it right out
of your hnd.
If the TMF is that superior to AMT and if you think yourself to be so
holier-than-God, why waste your time coming here?
MrNatural
> narrow-minded people here than in TMF. No One is perfect. Either here or
> there. I have been coming to this Newsgroup longer than I have been a
> member/mod of TMF. I enjoy the photos and files of both. Unless you are a
> member of the TMF I suggest you shut up and find out before you jump on the
> bandwagon of the flame throwers. Just to let you know. The MODS were created
> for the original TMF chat room to help keep the racial and personal attacks
> of the scrip kiddies in check so the people there could enjoy a free flowing
> conversation without being attacked. Since Myriad ( out of his own pocket I
> might add ) installed and set up the new room. we are not getting hits 99.9%
> of the time. Yes. We might not all agree. but at least we talk to each other
> or defend our positions. Yes some folks get out of control and a MOD is now
> there to keep the room from getting too out of hand. ( cursing out fellow
> chatters ) But that is all. We have Trivia night ( no not sexual trivia ) on
> Sundays. All of this is free for anyone. Before you Flame. at least find out
> what it is all about. it is FREE.
This is a self-justifying crock! I used to post regularly on the TMF
until it became apparent to me that some (TIB, for example) were
"untouchable." It has nothing to do with racial epithets and
everything to do with protecting the Politburo from any sort of
criticism whatsoever!
And why do you TMF mods classify every criticism of you as
"bashing"--why don't you stop your denial, look in a mirror, and cop
to the fact that you people are there for no other reason than to
censor any comments you don't agree with? This is what is so fucking
aggravating about the lot of you!
BTW, we are talking about the Ticklng Discussion Forum here, not the
chat room, so at least understand what is being discussed before you
start in with your full-of-shit "I am a TMF Mod" power trip! You have
no such power here! And, FYI, AMT is free, too!
Vryticklishfeet
around,,,,
MrNatural
Hi Denise, your posts have been interesting. However, I'm sure
frenchtickling.com is also in business to make money. I don't begrudge
people making money off their work. What I do resent is when the
producers of videos tell people what they can and cannot do with the
videos after they have bought them. TIB has arrogantly prohibited
people from re-selling their old TC videos on eBay, and THAT is my
main beef with him! He has done this solely to make sure that people
only buy his videos from him, not through the re-sale market. In doing
this, he has implied that his customers are crooks by stating that 90%
of the tickling videos sold on eBay are dubs. This is demonstrably
false slander against his customers and, when you combine this with
the fact that one can't auction TC videos on eBay, adds insult to
injury. This crook has the nerve to call his customers crooks, and
that's why I will never ever buy another video from him, or spend a
dime on any of his products! And that goes for his "secret identity"
of DungeonMaster as well!
optonline
"Wyane Duckett" <wyane_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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optonline
Till then.. you are no one as far as I am concerned. Nothing I said says
worship me. You are an Ass sir. it says that NO ONE is perfect. Not you, nor
I. and That I have enjoyed the services of both AMT and TMF.If you feel you
must start the civil wars of the 60's all over again you may want to read
your history. Those who do not learn are doomed to repeat it.
"Wyane Duckett" <wyane_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:70a9621a.03012...@posting.google.com...
optonline
Forum mods.. some are just chat room mods like myself. It was you and your I
am right TMF is evil side that generalized the word MOD.It is bashing plain
and simple till you stop generalizing shit. Realize that most of use come
here too so we see your verbal abuse. You must be one of those 5 ft nothing
guys whose height and balls grow to the size of his response on AMT> AMT is
a great Place. TMF cane be too. Both can suffere from idiots. ( as in the
one I am answering now ) I take critisism..where and when it is
deserved...do you????? SO take your FULL OF SHIT attitude walking pal
because as far as I am concerend you are no better than those you claim to
dislike but know nothing about
"MrNatural" <prete...@netzero.net> wrote in message
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Nostradamas
What I do resent is when the
> producers of videos tell people what they can and cannot do with the
> videos after they have bought them. TIB has arrogantly prohibited
> people from re-selling their old TC videos on eBay, and THAT is my
> main beef with him! He has done this solely to make sure that people
> only buy his videos from him, not through the re-sale market. In doing
> this, he has implied that his customers are crooks by stating that 90%
> of the tickling videos sold on eBay are dubs. This is demonstrably
> false slander against his customers and, when you combine this with
> the fact that one can't auction TC videos on eBay, adds insult to
> injury. This crook has the nerve to call his customers crooks, and
> that's why I will never ever buy another video from him, or spend a
> dime on any of his products! And that goes for his "secret identity"
> of DungeonMaster as well!
Really?! No EBay?!
You gotta be kidding me!
In the metro I'm at, there are tons of CD/VHS/DVD "recyclers" that buy your
used stuff , then re-sell it for a profit to consumers.
I don't think TC Video has the right to stop anyone from selling any of
their product on EBay.
Not that you could really tell the difference on the earlier VHS
tapes...."Origionals" emboss hand-written initials (DOH, PPS, DOR, etc.) on
a TDK tape (with lots of leftover room).
Thanks for punching out the tabs, BTW.
Now I have to break out the masking tape to record the Dukes of Hazzard.
I have a hard time believing that they could stop ANYTHING from being resold
via the WWW or anywhere else.
Are you **SURE** about that?!?!
Nostradamas
I would think a fair amount of TMFers would say the exact thing about AMT.
Rip files, then come'on home 'n post in a safe haven.
Either way....it's all good.
I look in on the TMF for the discussion threads because some are really
pretty interesting (to me).
Two different places to go....one overall goal.
We shouldn't have to "pick".
What is Coke w/o Pepsi?
McDonalds w/o Burger King?
Superman w/o ...well he's dead, or is he??
Super Sensitive
the problem I have is. (he he he). It is when they are greedy to no end and
want you to pay for everything. You know some of those sites where you click on
the thumbnail, and it just redirects you to a page where it offers the 4.95 3
day trial or sign up for 12.95 for 30 days. . . and they charge for every
little thing, while some sites let you see full-size pictures, 30 second clips,
and boom . .. it is up to you. Try before you buy. There is nothing wrong with
making a business out of what people want... so long as you enjoy the work you
are doing and really want to produce quality stuff people want. Produce the
goods, man . . . (wink) My point was, some of these companies DON'T necessarily
like it, and are just doing it because it is a market they can tap, and hire
"sexy", or "very cute" models that are SOOOOOO ticklish.... and they are SOOOOO
not. (lol) I want the real thing, dammit! If you have good experience with
tickling, you can tell whether or not someone is really getting it or not on
these videos. For example: I had this 7 minute clip of some dude tickling this
woman strapped to this 13th century table and she was fake as hell. He touches
one spot where she just shrieks... later on, several times in fact, he touches
upon the area again, and she does NOTHING. And you can tell it was forced
laughter. It completely sucked. (chuckle) Didn't buy the video. Thanks,
Pretender_1.
** On another note: TIB bans people from selling his vids on eBay and calls
them crooks? Sheesh. How does he know? Maybe people don't want them anymore for
whatever reason, and are just getting rid of them. Or maybe they bought the
video and thought is sucked and wanted to sell it to another would-be buyer on
eBay or something .... come on now.
** Soooo, you are telling me to beware of a "DungeonMaster" ... I'll look out
for that. See what it is all about. Thanks again.
-Denise
Wyane Duckett
> When you learn to read Wayne, then maybe someone will respect your opinion.
> Till then.. you are no one as far as I am concerned. Nothing I said says
> worship me. You are an Ass sir. it says that NO ONE is perfect. Not you, nor
> I. and That I have enjoyed the services of both AMT and TMF.If you feel you
> must start the civil wars of the 60's all over again you may want to read
> your history. Those who do not learn are doomed to repeat it.
>
I can read, Adam. But, what I have a problem with is that if anybody
says anything negative about TMF (even if it's constructive) it's
called "bashing" and that "we don't know what the hell we are talking
about" and we will bring about the "severe dislpleasure of Jeff" as
stated by the Big TMF Boss, himself.
It seems that nobody on TMF is allowed "independant thought" or is
allowed to have their own opinions, unless the moderators approve
such, in advance.
I have seen many "Praise TMF and the Moderator" postings but the
postings I have seen that had negative views (even those that were
constructive) were quickly yanked down.
I was in Russia abour 20 years ago with my Church and we were taking
pictures of the buildings, and we came across some slums with homeless
people....our government-appointed guide would not allow us to take
pictures of the slums....it seemed that the USSR did not want anybody
to know that they had their homeless people too....
Same way with TMF....they don't want other people to see different
points of view or opinions, other than what opinions or points-of-view
the moderators approve of.
Enough said.
MrNatural
I am 100% sure about that. Whenever a TC video appears on eBay, TIB
contacts eBay to stop the auction. There was a huge debate about this
last summer on the TMF. Naturally, the "Amen Chorus" of TMFers lined
up behind TIB; however, there was enough dissenting sentiment that
Myriads closed the thread and warned that
any other threads started about this would be deleted (mustn't allow
any criticism of TIB, you see, even when he's 100% in the wrong). If
you doubt me, try to sell an old TC video on eBay, or try to find one
for sale.
Jeremy9564
while. Been busy looking for a job. But one thing I want to know right away is
who the hell Wyane Duckett and MrNatural are? :) You two just popped out of
nowhere and now make most of the posts on this forum? Any clues as to who you
are? I've never seen you before. Don't get me wrong I love the things you're
saying, keep it up but who the hell are you that you're so passionate about
your posts?
Cheers!
:)
Jeremy9564
Jeff. He sits behind the scenes and tells the Mods what he wants and doesn't
want to show up on the TMF. What's really sucky is that the Mods take all the
bashing and he stays hidden while his hair continues to fall out. Not to
mention he has turned the TMF into a hideous billboard for his websites and
member areas. Enough is enough! Have you seen that completely annoying banner
that comes up on every single page? Thanks but I can do without some cross-eyed
slut sticking her tongue out at me begging me to join Jeff's site. Ha ha. I'm
telling you people the TMF if just Jeff's advertisement board. He doesn't host
it because he wants everyone to have a nice place to mingle. He hosts it for
numero uno! His propaganda attack has steadily gotten bolder as time goes on.
He has "contribute to the TMF" and "advertise on the TMF ($1500 per month)"
links on the site. Is he crazy? Anyway that is just one of my theories.
Comments?
maxspeer
> It seems that nobody on TMF is allowed "independant thought" or is
> allowed to have their own opinions, unless the moderators approve
> such, in advance.
I have to just respond seriously to this one. I have nothing to gain by
defending TMF and nothing to lose by posting here. I make lots of jokes but
when I saw this felt a need to respond.
As a Mod I am not allowed to take any kind of action unless it directly goes
against the rules of TMF which can be read by each member. The rules are
very pragmatic and they concern issues like posting from minors or about an
adult/minor situation. They are also interested in keeping the topics n the
right forums and on topic. So if a person starts complaining about a video
company in the Personals forum, it will be yanked or moved to the
appropriate place.
The Mods all have other things in their life than moderating a website.
They have jobs and families and would love nothing better than to do
absolutely nothing. It's not an ego kick. As for me, in my experience, I
know that I have to move or copy a questionable post to an evaluation forum
in order for the administration to decide whether it violates any rules.
Most of my stuff gets no action. The only forum where I have the last word
is my own Stories forum. I will yank someone bitching before they get the
words out of their mouth. But that's just me and that's just my forum. I
want to keep it strictly stories and fantasies.
Yes, posts that become long flames get yanked. Thank God. Who wants to
read all that egocentric ranting? But posts that remain on topic, even
though the topic can be heated, usually stay unless a person starts
elevating it with threats. Again, who wants to read that crap? It fills up
so much room.
I think AMT is fine if you want to get involved in personal threats and have
unmonitiored flames and threads. That's what newsgroups are all about.
Just go onto any newsgroup of any topic and you'll find the same things:
bashing, threatening, endless flames, as well as fun and interesting
uncensored conversation.
I know most of the monitors on TMF and they are not what these flames have
said they are. They are, for the most part, normal, interesting guys with
ALOT more patience than I have. I would've yanked three quarters of the
stuff that I saw. But I'm just hotheaded in that way.
Hope this helps.
Max
Qjakal
Hi all...just thought perhaps you'd like a full blown Mod from the
TMF to kick around for awhile. I've enjoyed a few chats with Drew and
if there's any actual interest in wanting to know more about the
moderating system at TMF, I'd be happy to try to answer as well as I
can. Some here obviously have already made up their minds on the
topic, based on either past experience at the forum or a sense of
hatred for any sort of "censorship". BUT, I'm up for a few rounds of
"wtf do you guys think you're doing?" over there... :-) Q
Drew70
> has gotten way too big for their britches. Having
> a flashy web page does not automatically make
> you "the only authority" on ANY subject, regardless
> what the "TMF gods" want you to believe.
There are no "TMF Gods." Those in charge are normal folks with good and bad
qualities just like the rest of us. You guys are taking this way off the
deep end. Describing the TMF'ers this way is as silly as them describing
AMT as nothing but flames, lies, and childishness. I hang out at both
places and I can assure you that coolness is the majority at both forums.
It's true I tend to favor AMT over the TMF because I'm opposed to censorship
of any kind. But guess what. They know exactly how I feel, because I
freely expressed this opinion. I proposed that censorship should be
unnecessary as we should all be able to decide for ourselves which posts we
considerable profitable. Still most of them disagreed, because they relish
the flame-free environment, and they like not having to deal with the flames
and insults. I even went as far as suggesting that a preference for a
moderated forum was indicative of a reluctance or inability to deal with
life's unpleasantries. I went on to say that sometimes with regards to the
censorship policy the TMF reminds me of an old folks home, where the mods
are dressed in white smocks and clean the shit from the people's butt
cracks, because they are too traumatized by the shit to clean it themselves.
Now surely you would agree that this is in no way kissing up to the mods or
the "Gods" or the "cliques" right? It's about as radical an opinion as
you're likely to find over there, yet it was in no way censored, edited,
deleted, or dealt with in any way other than opposing opinions posted. So
I'm afraid I have to strongly disagree with this notion that only certain
opinions are permited, and only certain people treated fairly. It's just
plain not true. All they expect is that you present your opinions without
personal insult or injury. People might disagree. You might find a
consensus of disagreement on particular subjects like censorship, but
they're as free to their opinions as we are to ours.
Chimneyfreek
Drew70 is covering his own ass with the mods at TMF. Sure he comes in here and
speaks shit about the TMF, censorship and the mods but do you know what the
damn truth is? HE WANTS TO BE ON THE TMF! HE WANTS TO BE A PART OF IT AND BE
ACCEPTED! This is all very ironic and fk'in hilarious because he's come here to
the AMT and cried and whined about how the TMF is self righteous etc etc. Now
he sees that some of the mods are actually watching this thread so hes thinking
Shit I had better cover my ass and make a post that kind of praises them. LOL
this is classic! This is shits and giggles at its best! Drew is finding out he
can't have it both ways. He can't be the King Leader of both groups, LOL. At
least his photo on the TMF is not hilarious looking. Thats one good thing.
So in conclusion, to all you followers of Drew70 who let him incite you on this
group to flame about the TMF, he's using you. He's covering his own tracks
right now on the TMF so he will be accepted there by making posts like the one
below. Go ahead. Read his kiss ass post below and tell me I'm wrong. He's
engaging in mod worship, the same thing he speaks out against with both his
Drew70 account and his alias accounts here on AMT.
>by DREW70
Glenn
<snipped mindless blather>
>This is shits and giggles at its best!
Hmmm...who used to say "shits an giggles" all the time?
Hmmm...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Right now, Moltar is heating my skull up to a scorching 450 degrees. It's like
getting a scalp massage from Lucifer."
-Space Ghost
Wyane Duckett
Hey Jeremy. I was a long-time lurker on AMT, but have not posted
anything, since my postings on TMF.
I went on TMF under the name "Dr FeelGood".
I am passionate, because of the blatant censorship. Unless it is a
"Hooray For TMF" postings it will be subject to deletion. Also those
who go out of their way to worship TMF and the mods, are given free
reign. There was a person who, for the lack of a better word, was a
troll and loved to dish out personal insults, but he also basically
worshipped the ground that Jeff walked on, so naturally, Jeff turned a
blind eye and flamed and insulted others, which were the very things
that TMF was designed to combat.
So the moral of the story, is stroke Jeff's ego, and flame all you
want, without any retrebution or punishment.
Drew70
> If there's anything to learn from Drew's post below
> it is these things: Drew70 is covering his own ass
> with the mods at TMF. Sure he comes in here and
> speaks shit about the TMF, censorship and the mods
> but do you know what the damn truth is? HE WANTS
> TO BE ON THE TMF! HE WANTS TO BE A PART OF
> IT AND BE ACCEPTED!
Newsflash: I AM part of the TMF. I joined in July of 2001. In case you
didn't know, you have to be a member before you can post there. Gee, I
guess the cat's out of the bag, now.
> This is all very ironic and fk'in hilarious because he's
> come here to the AMT and cried and whined about how
> the TMF is self righteous etc etc.
Oh really? And how might you know that? I ran a search in Google. There
is no record of you posting before January 19, 2003. You didn't even exist
when I posted my first impressions of the TMF. Oh, let me guess. You were
lurrrrking, right? Sure, that's it. I can tell from your writing style
that you basically shy and non-confrontational. Why don't you come out and
admit the truth? You're somebody we all know, but you don't want us to know
who you really are, so you invent a brand new identity. Why? There can
only be one reason. You're scared to confront people openly, as yourself.
> Now he sees that some of the mods are actually
> watching this thread so hes thinking Shit I had better
> cover my ass and make a post that kind of
> praises them. LOL this is classic!
"Cover his ass...(with) a post that KIND OF praises them." LOL, yeah that's
classic all right. I'm sure everybody got a chuckle out of that phrase.
Look, I say what I feel. If I didn't like the mods, I'd say so. If I
thought Wyane (does that rhyme with Diane?) was accurate in his assessments,
I would readily agree. It's that simple. I've told everybody at the TMF I
don't dig the censorship. Doesn't mean I have to hate the people who do it,
or exagerate the extent of it. And if I've been frank there as to my
feelings, why would I try to hide them here? Put it this way, what would I
hope to gain by holding back?
> This is shits and giggles at its best!
"Shits and giggles".....Where have I seen that phrase recently? Could it
have been here?
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&output=search&selm=20
021129115018.05616.00000331%40mb-fc.aol.com
> He's engaging in mod worship, the same thing he speaks
> out against with both his Drew70 account and his alias
> accounts here on AMT.
This ought to be good. Which other accounts are mine, hmm? I don't need
alias accounts. You know why? Because I don't need to hide behind secret
identities to post what I want to say. Too bad you can't say the same.
You've proven yourself a coward, and a liar. Congratulations!
Oh, one more thing, Chimneysweep. You've got mail!!
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"Wyane Duckett" <wyane_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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keep my butt safe ) :)
"maxspeer" <maxs...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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bitched and moaned about what he feels towards censorship. I was there. But
this Chimineysweep putz is no one.. no one we have ever seen before so I
agree with Drew. BUt with a twist. Drew if you remember correctly we had all
those troll problems before. I put this to you. THis putz is one or all th
etrolls that we have 99.9% succesessfully locked out of th echat room at
Myriads own expense mind you. Not a dime asked for. And like drew I have
argued with my fellow mods. Different people make for good conversation.
That is the way it should be
"Drew70" <drewbyn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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disruptiveforce
> > allowed to have their own opinions, unless the moderators approve
> > such, in advance.
>
> I have to just respond seriously to this one. I have nothing to gain by
> defending TMF and nothing to lose by posting here. I make lots of jokes but
> when I saw this felt a need to respond.
>
> As a Mod I am not allowed to take any kind of action unless it directly goes
> against the rules of TMF which can be read by each member. The rules are
> very pragmatic and they concern issues like posting from minors or about an
> adult/minor situation. They are also interested in keeping the topics n the
> right forums and on topic. So if a person starts complaining about a video
> company in the Personals forum, it will be yanked or moved to the
> appropriate place.
Putting stuff in its place is one thing. But when threads like the
Femfeet/TIB thread get closed because nothing constructive is being
done or whatever Myriads said, that says something else.
> The Mods all have other things in their life than moderating a website.
> They have jobs and families and would love nothing better than to do
> absolutely nothing. It's not an ego kick. As for me, in my experience, I
> know that I have to move or copy a questionable post to an evaluation forum
> in order for the administration to decide whether it violates any rules.
> Most of my stuff gets no action. The only forum where I have the last word
> is my own Stories forum. I will yank someone bitching before they get the
> words out of their mouth. But that's just me and that's just my forum. I
> want to keep it strictly stories and fantasies.
I don't recall anyone saying the stories forum was the problem, do
you?
> Yes, posts that become long flames get yanked. Thank God. Who wants to
> read all that egocentric ranting? But posts that remain on topic, even
> though the topic can be heated, usually stay unless a person starts
> elevating it with threats. Again, who wants to read that crap? It fills up
> so much room.
Blind praise of "how awesome" this place or that place is can be quite
boring too. I'd be just as bored if I read it here. Nice posts of
"Gee, we're great, we have this many members, we're gonna make
tickling mainstream! (someone explain to me the point of that moronic,
idiotic thinking please?) are supposed to be exciting?
> I think AMT is fine if you want to get involved in personal threats and have
> unmonitiored flames and threads. That's what newsgroups are all about.
> Just go onto any newsgroup of any topic and you'll find the same things:
> bashing, threatening, endless flames, as well as fun and interesting
> uncensored conversation.
Or you can go to certain registred forums, and if you dare question
the status quo, you are :at best attacked, and at worst, have your
post yanked. People who "dare" to say TMF is little more than a
cliquish social club get the "well, what are you contributing," or
"I'd like to see you do this" BS.
> I know most of the monitors on TMF and they are not what these flames have
> said they are. They are, for the most part, normal, interesting guys with
> ALOT more patience than I have. I would've yanked three quarters of the
> stuff that I saw. But I'm just hotheaded in that way.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Max
You at least came over and spoke your point directly. That is more
than some people would do.
Jeremy9564
>the status quo, you are :at best attacked, and at worst, have your
>post yanked. People who "dare" to say TMF is little more than a
>cliquish social club get the "well, what are you contributing," or
>"I'd like to see you do this" BS
Macon, GA
Jeremy9564
Does Jeff or does Jeff not have the final say so over any matter concerning the
TMF that he wants to meddle with?
tic toc tic toc
maxspeer
> From: jerem...@aol.com (Jeremy9564)
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: alt.multimedia.tk
> Date: 23 Jan 2003 06:23:47 GMT
> Subject: Re: I noticed this about the TMF...
Jeff pays for and is the webmaster of the site but Myriads is the top dog.
He has the final say, HOWEVER he must make a decision based on the rules of
the site. I have never seen him base any kind of decisions on his own
personal opinions. I am amazed at how diplomatic he can be. Again, as I
said before, I have hotheadedly presented certain posts to be axed and he
has over ruled it.
In my experience as a Mod, I haven't seen Jeff make any sort of active
decision about posts. He has offered his suggestion like any other Mod.
This is the truth. As I said before, I really have nothing to gain by lying
or keeping anything back.
As a Mod, an evaluation forum is present on our menu and hidden from other
users. I go to this forum to see what is happening. Even though I am not
as 'busy' as the other Mods, I like to see what they're talking about.
You can have whatever opinion about Jeff that you'd care to have, but in
matters of pulling posts it's Myriads that has the final word.
Max
Nostradamas
> I am 100% sure about that. Whenever a TC video appears on eBay, TIB
> contacts eBay to stop the auction. There was a huge debate about this
> last summer on the TMF. Naturally, the "Amen Chorus" of TMFers lined
> up behind TIB; however, there was enough dissenting sentiment that
> Myriads closed the thread and warned that
> any other threads started about this would be deleted (mustn't allow
> any criticism of TIB, you see, even when he's 100% in the wrong). If
> you doubt me, try to sell an old TC video on eBay, or try to find one
> for sale.
I don't get it...if I can sell "Terminator" on ebay, why not "Midnite
Hysteria" ???
What's the difference?
I don't know how he got them to stop the sale, but it's not copywrite
infringment, it's re-sale.
I think the burden of proof that illegally dubbed copies are being sold
would fall on TC.
Right?!
Jeremy9564
Isn't that exactly the way Jeff would want us to think? Thanks for answering my
question. I appreciate it. I have one more question.
Is it possible for Jeff to just flat out delete any post or thread he desires
without sending it to the "evaluation area"?
Drew70
mainly that of the forum but the chatroom applies as well. The trolls there
didn't bother me, really. I found them quite easy to ignore. That's the
way to deal with chatroom trolls. Ignore them entirely. The other chatters
wouldn't do that. They'd keep reacting with indignance and outrage. "Eek!!
A troll!!" That's why the trolls hung out there and multiplied. They were
well fed.
maxspeer
> Is it possible for Jeff to just flat out delete any post or thread he desires
> without sending it to the "evaluation area"?
All I can say is that I know what I know. Does he have the ability to do
this? Probably. Does he do it. Not to my knowledge. I will be very fair
about this. I'm not a very good moderator because I am not on TMF a whole
lot. I have been very busy the past few months in my Vanilla life and the
only reason I have come here lately is because it's easy to check this on my
Outlook Express when I check my email.
So if you have a beef for something Jeff did that I am unaware of, then I
can't get involved in that because I don't have enough information. I really
don't like getting involved in personal spats between members of our
community because it has given me grief over the years.
So I just like doing what I do and contributing what I can on TMF and not
getting into anything heated unless I am directly involved.
I know that you are one of the more outspoken members of this group. I
commend your ability to be thick-skinned, and I hope you work out your
problems with TMF, Jeff and any others in this group that has twisted you
up.
Max
Vryticklishfeet
with no pics?? a good description i mean? wouldnt that be a way around him? you
could just say " awesome tickle video" blah blah blah,, i mean it wouldnt sell
as well as with pics but hey,, it would work
Vryticklishfeet
or better description
Jeremy9564
>this? Probably. Does he do it. Not to my knowledge.
LOL do you think he'd tell you when he was doing it? "Hey max yesterday I
deleted some posts that didn't make my company look good. I didn't send them to
be reviewed I just killed them." I think not!!! And of course he has the
ability he is the webmaster. Let me just say that I've seen posts vanish just 2
minutes after they were posted and they contained no flaming. Funny thing is
that most of them didn't hold Magic Touch in very high esteem. Boom! Flash!
They were gone, never to re-appear and never to be discussed by the body of
mods. I know it happens. I'm sure of it. I've seen it.
Look at this latest post on the TMF about how the people hate that god awful
annoying banner Jeff puts in our face? It won't be long before that thread is
closed or gone. I think Jeff has so far mistaken into thinking that any
publicity is good publicity but in this case that damn banner makes me not even
interested in that girl being tickled or his members area. Pushing it into our
faces THAT badly makes me hate her.
Nostradamas
Vryticklishfeet <vrytick...@aol.com> wrote in message
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The thing is, there is no "label".
It's the sticker TDK (or whoever) sold with the tape, then it's hand written
on the labelwith a felt tip pen.
Example: "DOH"
These are the VHS tapes that I'm referring to.
How could you even tell, much less prove it's a copy?
What if I make a copy for myself and want to sell the "origonal"?
That's not illegal.
I just don't see how he cold block a transaction w/o proof it was a copy.
Nostradamas
> or! you could leave your email address and just have people email you for
a pic
> or better description
Right, tons of ways around it...you'de think.