Matte painting on glass?

[Paul Oberlander]

A friend of mine recently asked about how matte paintings are done on
glass. I didn't know, but it got me thinking. What kind of paint is
used to do matte painting on glass? Is it oil or water based? Do you
use standard oil paints or acrylics or gouache? Are there any special
techniques involved?

paul
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"The greater the diameter of your knowledge, the
greater the circumference of your ignorance..."

[derek]

Mattes used to be done exclusively on glass. If you want the long
explanation, including locking down frames of film, etc to begin to
produce the image, e-mail me.
Essentially the process now can be done much smaller and the images are
enhanced digitally... some are even purely digital in that they are less
paintings and more collages of existing art or even footage.
If anyone's really interested, I'll post the whole deal on how they were
done, and how they're done now, or you could probably get the info. out
of a number of books...
Techniques of Special Effects Cinematography by Ray Fielding, or even
either of the books on ILM by Tom Smith or Mark Cotta Vaz and Pat
Duignan.
Names to check out:
Albert Whitlock
Percival Day
Matt Yuricich
Caroleen Green
Chris Evans
Mike Pangrazzio
Ralph McQuarrie
Peter Ellenshaw- a book is available of Peter's personal work
Harrison Ellenshaw
Go to www.matteworld.com for Matte World Digital's web site as well.
Also... if you're interested in this type of work, look at the paintings
of Bierstadt and Cole for some influence, they are just amazing.
Good luck to all.

p.s. anyone loking for a matte painter or concept artist? I know one
who's pretty available... hint hint

[SandyClaws]

ILM: The Art of Special Effects
(a book)
tells you much.

[ronald-thomas]

Paul Oberlander <obr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

acrylics are the easiest to work with, with plenty of nifty medium
enhancements, though they do dry faster than oils.

Start with knowing what is going on in the background...then use a
grease pencil to scetch out the basics, outlines and such.

The first layer of acrilic will be hard to laydown, but easy to build
on.

Paint away.

I'm not a definitive source... done it twice, but poke around abit to
get more professional advice if needed.

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[Paul Oberlander]

ronald-thomas wrote:
>
> Paul Oberlander <obr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> acrylics are the easiest to work with, with plenty of nifty medium
> enhancements, though they do dry faster than oils.
>
> Start with knowing what is going on in the background...then use a
> grease pencil to scetch out the basics, outlines and such.
>
> The first layer of acrilic will be hard to laydown, but easy to build
> on.
>
> Paint away.
>
> I'm not a definitive source... done it twice, but poke around abit to
> get more professional advice if needed.
>
> >A friend of mine recently asked about how matte paintings are done on
> >glass. I didn't know, but it got me thinking. What kind of paint is
> >used to do matte painting on glass? Is it oil or water based? Do you
> >use standard oil paints or acrylics or gouache? Are there any special
> >techniques involved?

Thanks for your response.

Paul

[Paul Oberlander]

I've seen this book at the bookstore. Thanks. I'll have to get it.

[Paul Oberlander]

Thanks for your helpful post. I will follow up on the references and
put your e-mail address aside in case I have any questions.

[Spectre Shark]

Paul Oberlander wrote:

> A friend of mine recently asked about how matte paintings are done on
> glass. I didn't know, but it got me thinking. What kind of paint is
> used to do matte painting on glass? Is it oil or water based? Do you
> use standard oil paints or acrylics or gouache? Are there any special
> techniques involved?
>

> paul

> --
> mailto:obr...@earthlink.net
>
> "The greater the diameter of your knowledge, the
> greater the circumference of your ignorance..."

Check out "The technique of special effects cinematography" by Raymond
Fielding for an excellent source on glass matt paintings and other optical
effects

[derek]

This is a fantastic book, but it's a real pain to get ahold of, and
just a little pricy... if anyone knows a relatively quick way to get a
copy, would you let me know? Also, as I said before, if anyone's really
interested, I'll post everything you could want ot know about matte
painting, past and present.

[Frost1]

>Also, as I said before, if anyone's really
interested, I'll post everything you could want ot know about matte
painting, past and present.

Post away. Matte paintings have always held a fascination for me.
I'd love to know anything and everything about the subject.

Kevin VanHook
VanHook Studios