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dice...@hotmail.com

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Aug 31, 2000, 9:53:58 PM8/31/00
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Whatever happened to the rivelry between the two? Titanic will never match
starwars legacy.


Tina/John/Jenny Grimes

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Aug 31, 2000, 10:43:29 PM8/31/00
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Does anyone really care to reopen this can of worms? It's rather trite
anymore, don't you think? Yes, the legacy of Star Wars is so awesome it's
almost blinding. Where are my sunglasses?!
Tina

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Kimberly Dickson

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Sep 1, 2000, 12:38:06 AM9/1/00
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If you think this movie's not good, why come here?

Kim

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Titanic rules forever and ever!!! :-)


Tom Pappas

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"bo...@collective.com" <dice...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Whatever happened to the rivelry between the two? Titanic will never match
> starwars legacy.

We still have a bad spell of rivalry once in a while.

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Star Wars completly sucks. Enough said

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> Star Wars completly sucks. Enough said
>
> --I totally agree!!!!!!!!!!
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ladyim...@my-deja.com

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Sep 11, 2000, 2:53:57 PM9/11/00
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I think every decade has it's own blockbuster that lives in infamy as a
culteral phenomenon. In the 70's it was Star Wars. In the 90's it was
Titanic. They are both masterpieces in the their own right.

But for some reason I can't remember what the big hit was in the 80's
Anyone remember?


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Kimberly Dickson

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Sep 11, 2000, 3:22:32 PM9/11/00
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Dirty Dancing, definitely. :-)

Tina/John/Jenny Grimes

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Sep 11, 2000, 6:32:11 PM9/11/00
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I don't think it was on the same scale, but Dirty Dancing hit in the 80's.
That's another of my all time faves. What about Back to the Future? That was
in '85, I believe, and it was a pretty big hit. I'm having trouble thinking
of others.
Tina.

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Tom Pappas

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Sep 11, 2000, 8:21:05 PM9/11/00
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DIrty Dancing a cultural phenomenon? I've never heard a thing about any
facet of it except the single Oscar it won for Best Music, Song (oh, yeah,
and whatshisname's hips. That hardly qualifies.)

Let's hear some of the more memorable lines from DD. Like "Use the Force" or
"Make it count".


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Kimberly Dickson

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Sep 11, 2000, 8:39:49 PM9/11/00
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There's this one scene that always crack me up, which is when Baby helped
Billy carry the watermelons to the dance place, and Johnny asked what she
was doing there. All she could say was that she carried the watermelon, and
Johnny gave her a look that said, "Okay, whatever." I love that scene.

I think that the ending dance is incredible. I also love the scene when
Johnny and Baby are practicing this one dance move, and she keeps on
laughing. I saw on Behind the Scenes with Dirty Dancing that she really was
laughing and Patrick really was frustrated, which makes the scene have more
meaning, in my opinion.

Kim


Tom Pappas

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Sep 11, 2000, 10:08:48 PM9/11/00
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Oh, I had no idea there was a watermelon scene. I take back everything I
implied about DIrty Dancing being a superficial, trivial movie.

And AH! that Behind the Scenes scene - well, this is nothing more or less
than the stuff of cinematic legend. Maltese Falcon, move over.


KimNB

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Sep 11, 2000, 11:08:33 PM9/11/00
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I would have suggested E.T. or Back to the Future or Indiana Jones.. but it's
hard to argue with Dirty Dancing.. If you really think about it, the film does
capture the end of an era (pre-JFK assassination) sort of like Titanic does
(Golden Age).

Tom Pappas

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Sep 12, 2000, 1:21:10 AM9/12/00
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Oh, come on now. Dirty Dancing is a trivial bit of 60s fluff, vapid in
conception, vacuous in execution, and no more significant to the history of
the cinematic art than "Porky's". It knows nothing and says nothing about
the loss of innocence, hope, and vision of the future that the world
experienced that November day in 1963. You're trying to elevate a very
average and pedestrian flick to some sort of legitimacy that it simply
doesn't deserve. If you want to know about pre-JFK America, you need to pay
attention to films like American Graffiti, or The Last Picture Show. There
were dozens of much more intelligently crafted films in the 80s, from
Raiders of the Lost Ark to Ghandi, Out of Africa, and Platoon.

Sing along now: "She's Only A Bird In A Gilded Age......."

TheFrankMan

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Sep 12, 2000, 12:28:47 AM9/12/00
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Hi, Tina and the Gang (Hmmm, sounds like "Smoky and the Bandit", or "Jack
and the Beanstalk)

> I don't think it was on the same scale, but Dirty Dancing hit in the 80's.
> That's another of my all time faves. What about Back to the Future? That
was
> in '85, I believe, and it was a pretty big hit. I'm having trouble
thinking
> of others.

Actually, the collective American consciousness during the 80's was
largely distracted by the Hollywood performance of Bonzo as US President, a
role reprised in mid-decade via "Beneath The Planet Of The Chimpanzee
Actors" and soon after by Ollie North and S&L wizard Charles Keating in "An
Officer and a Bloodsucker". I'm sure you remember those two great sci-fi
reality/documentary flicks, because of their similar plots involving a bunch
of military insiders, corporate raiders and android lawyers from outer-space
who all descend on Earth disguised as human beings, and did their best to
suck the life-force out of Earth people who actually work for a living and
who watch movies where people & things don't all get shot or blown up. So,
during that decade, most people with an actual sense of creativity felt like
they were surrounded by the throngs carrying pitchforks & torches in the old
1930's Frankenstein movies. For some reason, I always think of the 8 years
of that political era as "The Dork Ages".

Oh, well, back to my cage...

Cheers,

The FrankMan

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Corey Ann Doyle

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Sep 12, 2000, 6:44:00 AM9/12/00
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>And AH! that Behind the Scenes scene - well, this is nothing more or less
>than the stuff of cinematic legend. Maltese Falcon, move over.

Tommmmm are you getting to be a grumpy old man on us?

She was reliving some of the good memories of Dirty Dancing... My personal
favorite from the 80's...

I used to dance along with the movie with my Mom *BG*.

Corey Ann
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interest to you..."~Rose

Corey Ann Doyle

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Sep 12, 2000, 6:48:35 AM9/12/00
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>There
>were dozens of much more intelligently crafted films in the 80s, from
>Raiders of the Lost Ark to Ghandi, Out of Africa, and Platoon.

YES but ask almost any female what their favorite movie was in the 80's and you
will get Dirty Dancing. How many females would say Platoon?

I would suggest one that was more of a cult hit, but oh well... Ferris
Bueller's Day Off. The 80's was a big revival in "Teen Flicks" esp. those with
Molly Ringwald (Breakfast Club anyone?).

What about Rocky? Karate Kid? Rambo? The Terminator? Gremlins? Ghostusters?
Back to the Future? Grease?

God I remember all the kids walking around quoting Sylvester Stallone...

TheFrankMan

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Sep 12, 2000, 9:26:56 AM9/12/00
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Hi, Corey Ann:

> >And AH! that Behind the Scenes scene - well, this is nothing more or less
> >than the stuff of cinematic legend. Maltese Falcon, move over.
>
> Tommmmm are you getting to be a grumpy old man on us?

I wouldn't touch a straight-line like that for a free two-week vacation to
Ridgemont High! :) :)

Cheers,

The FrankMan


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TheFrankMan

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Sep 12, 2000, 11:22:51 AM9/12/00
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Hey, Tom:

> vapid in conception, vacuous in execution, and
> no more significant to the history of the cinematic art than "Porky's".

Some may adamantly & sincerely argue that - not since Orson Welles' dared
to explore Xanadu and the secret & checkered past of Charles Foster Kane -
have there been vivid & memorable characters like Pee Wee, Meat and the
inimitable Blubber McGhee, which the world quickly grew to know & love in
Porky's. Not any other writers for the screen or otherwise thru history -
from Mankiewicz to Wordsworth to Shakespeare to even T. S. Eliot when he'd
wax more poetic than analytic - were able to conjure mental images more
memorable and riveting than those born of the missing-plumbing fixtures
which left little holes in the wall of the girls' shower-room. (Indeed,
here the director very cleverly but unspokenly reprised the all-time
favorite line from Casablana, "Here's looking at you, kid.") And what about
that masterful editing? Each new scene began *precisely* where the previous
one stopped, *every* time. That alone must have taken hours. Not
"significant to the history of the cinematic art"? In retrospect, this
movie may have been deeper and of higher quality than you first saw it to
be.

At least such is the opinion that may be adamantly & sincerely argued by
somebody who's currently still going to night-school hoping to finally
attain his credentials to work in a car-wash. But I thought every viewpoint
deserved to be heard...


Cheers,

The FrankMan


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Tina/John/Jenny Grimes

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Sep 12, 2000, 6:18:33 PM9/12/00
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Actually, I was responding to Lady Immortal's question:

> But for some reason I can't remember what the big hit was in the 80's
> Anyone remember?

I don't necessarily think that Dirty Dancing was a cultural phenomenon, but
it was a "big hit" in the 80's. So were Back to the Future, Raiders of the
Lost Ark, and several other flicks mentioned in response to this thread. I
don't think it's fair that Dirty Dancing be compared to the likes of
Porky's. I mean, did you see Porky's??? Come on.....puhlease! Platoon was a
good movie, as was Out of Africa, but you can't exactly call them
sensations. If you're going to put Dirty Dancing in the same category as
Porky's, then I would have to put Platoon and Out of Africa there as well
(they all made some money). I was just trying to come up with names of "big
hits." Nothing in the 80's comes close to the scope of Titanic, as far as I
can recall, but there were hits--and Dirty Dancing was one of them.

Tina

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Tom Pappas

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Sep 12, 2000, 8:30:54 PM9/12/00
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> YES but ask almost any female what their favorite movie was in the 80's
and you
> will get Dirty Dancing. How many females would say Platoon?

I asked all of the females at the office. Of the six who saw both movies,
six responded that Platoon was the superior production. The question was,
"which was the more significant flick?"

> "His ideas about the male preoccupation with size might be of particular
> interest to you..."~Rose

"There is such a thing as TOO big." - A friend

Quy Tran

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Sep 22, 2000, 1:28:36 AM9/22/00
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ET was the movie of the 80's


Tina/John/Jenny Grimes

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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I had forgotten about ET. That was definitely a BIG hit in the 80's!
Tina

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Steve Sisson

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Star Wars could count for the 80's also. If not, I'd say Back to the Future
would be close.


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