are any of the people in this photo still alive?
The Space Boss
Apparantly, these people were all the "who's who" of silent cinema as
of 1926. Is it possible any of them are still living?
The Space Boss
and if not, which one of the people lived till most recently? Thanks.
Daniela C
estate.You aren't the seller of this item by any chance though?
Daniela
The Space Boss schrieb:
The Space Boss
Daniela C wrote:
> I certainly know that one of them apart from Rudolph Valentino is regretably no longer alive but I own at least two of the books from his
> estate.You aren't the seller of this item by any chance though?
>
> Daniela
>
NO, Daniela LOL I am not the seller. I myself was trying to track down
an particular item owned by Rudolph Valentino. Doing some research a
seller was selling an item owned by Rudolph Valentino on Ebay months
ago, but I was unable to retrieve the user ID from Ebay live help. I
will email you and tell you what the item is is you think you can help
me track it down. Thanks.
Eric Stott
"The Space Boss" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hard on the heels of the Hirschfield drawing, who can name these people.
I'll start with my own meager contributions.
Top left: Roscoe Arbuckle, Marion Davies, James Parrot(?)
Ronald Coleman is in top center, I don't know the ladies on either side
top right group: Jack Pickford, Rudolph Valentino, Rambova(?)
Center row- The man to the left of the big hat might be Fred Niblo, Richard
Barthelmess is on the right of the hat, the rather dapper woman with a
monocle (?) is Beatrice Lillie, extreme right of the row Howard Hughes. and
King Vidor
Seated on ground: Edmund Goulding is in front of the big hat, I think
Dorothy Mackaill is behind the terrier dog,
The young man to the left of the dog is wearing VERY peculiar footwear,
apparantly borrowed from the ladies?
Eric Stott
Daniela C
would reach a point at which I suppose I'd get outbid.
I wonder if I'll be able to help you tracking down anything though but mail me anyway.
Daniela
The Space Boss schrieb:
> Daniela C wrote:
Darren
Darren
Eric Stott
"Darren" <dnem...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> The seller also has a nice candid of Louise Brooks.
>
> Darren
Louise Brooks could be a little TOO candid at times.
Stott
JMozart...@aol.com
this year in December according to IMDB. Does anyone know her
whereabouts and what kind of health she's in?
James
On Oct 8, 5:50 pm, "Eric Stott" <estott@localnetoSPAMcomMODE> wrote:
> "The Space Boss" <drsmith...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1160341823.1...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > The Space Boss wrote:
> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/RUDOLPH-VALENTINO-PARTY-MALIBU-1926-H-HUGHES-ET-A...
>
> >> Apparantly, these people were all the "who's who" of silent cinema as
> >> of 1926. Is it possible any of them are still living?
>
> > and if not, which one of the people lived till most recently? Thanks.Hard on the heels of the Hirschfield drawing, who can name these people.
Darren
I was surprised to see Arbuckle in this photo.
Wouldn't Rudy, and anyone else in Hollywood, not want to be seen around him
by 1926?
Darren
Frederica
If you mean as a result of the scandal, no. He wasn't ostracized by
his friends at all.
This photo has been published all over the place. I've spotted Antonio
Moreno, Constance Talmadge, Dick Barthelmess, and the tall thin guy to
the far right is Howard Hughes. Is that Frank Capra standing next to
him?
Fred
Jason Liller
Frederica wrote:
> This photo has been published all over the place. I've spotted Antonio
> Moreno, Constance Talmadge, Dick Barthelmess, and the tall thin guy to
> the far right is Howard Hughes. Is that Frank Capra standing next to
> him?
Is the woman in the far right of the bottom row Blanche Sweet?
--Jason Liller
The Space Boss
Who's that woman on the bottom right with the frizzy hair? She sure
looks like QUITE a sexpot..
Laura B
Sweet. And I am sure the woman next to Arbuckle is Mae Murray, not
Marion Davies. I am think that the woman with Valentino is Pola Negri
and not Natasha Rambova.
Eric Stott
"Laura B" <yoga...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Yes, you're right, I think the woman to the bottom right is Blanche
> Sweet. And I am sure the woman next to Arbuckle is Mae Murray, not
> Marion Davies.
I still think Davies- I recall seeing this picture reproduced showing that
Davies (and by extension Hearst) did not abanmdon Arbuckle, no matter what
the papers said.
I am think that the woman with Valentino is Pola Negri
> and not Natasha Rambova.
Could be- I knew it was someone connected to Valentino.
Stott
tmk...@juno.com
Oddly though, front row third from left, looks like Dick Van Dyke!! Of
course I realize it can't be...unless in a creepy "Shining" kinda way.
tmk...@juno.com
The Space Boss
Laura B wrote:
> Yes, you're right, I think the woman to the bottom right is Blanche
> Sweet. And I am sure the woman next to Arbuckle is Mae Murray, not
> Marion Davies. I am think that the woman with Valentino is Pola Negri
> and not Natasha Rambova.
>
Laura,
Thank you for the agreement about Blanche. Quite a looker. Blanche
lived a long, good life, she lived until 1986. It's so interesting to
see photos like this where the people seem to have lived so long ago,
and in such an almost "unreal" time and era, and then come to find out
that they lived so long that they got to see what the modern world was
like, if you know what I'm saying. Mind boggling. To me anyway..
miller robert m
(when she was 101) I tried contacting Barbara Kent, too (because of their
"co-starring" in the notorious hybrid/exploitation film PROTECT YOUR
DAUGHTER, which was about to come out on DVD) but I had no luck.
Kent reportedly lives in Sun Valley, Idaho and is said to have refused all
movie-related interviews for many years.
The Space Boss
He was aquitted.
Fred
wrote:
I don't think Capra would have been important enough to be there in
1926. His only feature credit at the time was The Strong Man (though
it's one of my favorites).
The other Fred
Daniela C
tmk...@juno.com schrieb:
> I'm inclined to think Rambova.
> Oddly though, front row third from left, looks like Dick Van Dyke!! Of
> course I realize it can't be...unless in a creepy "Shining" kinda way.
Could this be Charle Lane?
Daniela
> >
>
Frederica
tmk...@juno.com wrote:
> > I still think Davies- I recall seeing this picture reproduced showing that
> > Davies (and by extension Hearst) did not abanmdon Arbuckle, no matter what
> > the papers said.
> >
> >
> > I am think that the woman with Valentino is Pola Negri
> > > and not Natasha Rambova.
> >
> > Could be- I knew it was someone connected to Valentino.
> >
> > Stott
If this is 1926 it's probably Pola Negri and not Rambova. Donna Hill
would know for certain.
By the way, the papers never said that Hearst or Davies had abandoned
Arbuckle.
Frederica
Eric Stott
"Frederica" <missme...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I didn't mean it quite so specifically. What I intended to say was they were
not going to abandon him, no matter what the papers would write about him.
Stott
Frederica
Eric Stott wrote:
> > By the way, the papers never said that Hearst or Davies had abandoned
> > Arbuckle.
> >
> > Frederica
> >
>
> I didn't mean it quite so specifically. What I intended to say was they were
> not going to abandon him, no matter what the papers would write about him.
>
> Stott
Ah, OK. I don't think Marion Davies ever abandoned anyone or anything
in her life.
Arbuckle's life post trial is still a big unknown to me, but I don't
think any of his friends abandoned him. I note that the Talmadge clan
is well represented in this photo and those girls certainly would have
been his peeps, given the Schenck connection. There might have been
other people who were Virginia Rappe's friends who may not have been
very happy with him, but I don't know. Jack White and Fred Fishback
certainly worked together afterward; they were on opposite sides of the
courtroom. I don't know if that mattered very much afterward.
Frederica
haub...@yahoo.com
Looks like Raymond Griffith at middle row, far left.
Next to him, I'd almost say Lew Cody but maybe he looks a little too
squat...but maybe it is. (It almost looks like comedian Dave Morris,
but he probably wouldn't be hanging with that elite crowd.)
And it looks like Marshall Neilan with the glass in his hand (certainly
a Neilan trait) at right next to Howard Hughes.
Brent Walker
Frederica
haub...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Looks like Raymond Griffith at middle row, far left.
>
> Next to him, I'd almost say Lew Cody but maybe he looks a little too
> squat...but maybe it is. (It almost looks like comedian Dave Morris,
> but he probably wouldn't be hanging with that elite crowd.)
>
> And it looks like Marshall Neilan with the glass in his hand (certainly
> a Neilan trait) at right next to Howard Hughes.
>
> Brent Walker
No one has yet identified the most important personage in this photo!
Who's the dog?
Frederica
Bruce Calvert
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haub...@yahoo.com
I'm not familiar with Maitland Rice Lederer, but if that is him he sure
is the doppelganger for Raymond Griffith.
Brent Walker
Frederica
haub...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> I'm not familiar with Maitland Rice Lederer, but if that is him he sure
> is the doppelganger for Raymond Griffith.
>
> Brent Walker
He must have been one of Marion Davies' relatives, but he sure looks
like
he was separated at birth from Griffith.
Frederica
David Totheroh
I'd be real interested in finding out who or what was the source for
the "i.d. list" from the Golden Silents website (or to bore one step
deeper, are the people i.d.ed in either the Arbuckle bio or the Negri
autobio). As we've seen on any number of other occasions, photo
identifications are a long way from being an exact science. Just
because it happened to be published somewhere, sometime, doesn't make
it automatically any more (or less) accurate than any of the informed
guesses offered here. A source isn't a source unless it's sourced.
haub...@yahoo.com
Yes, apparently Maitland Rice Lederer (who died in 1934) was the
casting director at Fox, was the son of Broadway producer (and Marion
Davies' brother-in-law) George W. Lederer, and also brother of writer
Charles Lederer. So he would have more reason that Raymond Griffith to
be in this photo, but I still wonder if Lederer might have been
mis-ID'ed and is elsewhere in this photo because it sure looks like
Griffith.
Brent Walker
Frederica
haub...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Frederica wrote:
> > He must have been one of Marion Davies' relatives, but he sure looks
> > like
> > he was separated at birth from Griffith.
> >
> > Frederica
>
> Yes, apparently Maitland Rice Lederer (who died in 1934) was the
> casting director at Fox, was the son of Broadway producer (and Marion
> Davies' brother-in-law) George W. Lederer, and also brother of writer
> Charles Lederer. So he would have more reason that Raymond Griffith to
> be in this photo, but I still wonder if Lederer might have been
> mis-ID'ed and is elsewhere in this photo because it sure looks like
> Griffith.
>
> Brent Walker
I say we effect a coup and revise the identification. If it looks like
a duck and it quacks like a duck, it's Raymond Griffith.
Frederica
David Totheroh
And the guy id.ed as Maitland doesn't look much like his brother,
Charles, as seen in the City Lights outtakes either.
Laughsmith
Sorry for the delayed post, have
been AFK. Am freshly returned
from the Keaton gathering in
Muskegon.
Minta Durfee's scrapbook contains
the original 1926 photo. While there
are no notations on the reverse the
still is accompanied by a 1972 news
article which lists the participants as
follows:
(typos and all)
Top row:
Roscoe Arbuckle
Mae Murray
Ward Crane
Virginia Vallee
Ronald Coleman
Bessie Love
Jack Pickford
Rudolph Valentino
Pola Negri
Next row:
Raymond Griffith
Chris Goulding
Louella Parsons
Lila Lee
Carmel Myers
Allan Forrest
Bert Lytell
Claire Windsor
Dick Barthelmess
Constance Talmadge
Beatrice Lillie
Al Hall
Mrs. Jack Mulhall
Mrs. John Robertson
Julianne Johnson
Agnes Ayers
John Robertson
Mrs. Talmadge
Henri de Flais
Mickey Neilan
Howard Hughes
Sitting:
Tony Moreno
Prince David Mdivani
Charles Long
Edmund Goulding
Marcel Desano
Manuel D'Arce
Harry D'Arost
Doris Arbuckle
Mrs. Tony Moreno
Eddie Kone
Natalie Talmadge
Mrs. Sedgwich
Christine Francis
Allie MacIntosh
Kitty Scola
Blanche Sweet
Is this list definitive? Eh. I dunno.
But it is certainly interesting.
-- Paul E. Gierucki
Frederica
Laughsmith wrote:
> Hey Folks ~
> Minta Durfee's scrapbook contains
> the original 1926 photo. While there
> are no notations on the reverse the
> still is accompanied by a 1972 news
> article which lists the participants as
> follows:
>
> Is this list definitive? Eh. I dunno.
> But it is certainly interesting.
>
> -- Paul E. Gierucki
Hrrrmmmphhh. Still no ID on the dog.
Frederica
madevaraven
"Frederica" <missme...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > Ah, OK. I don't
> in her life.
> Arbuckle's life post trial is still a big unknown to me, but I don't
> think any of his friends abandoned him. I note that the Talmadge clan
> is well represented in this photo and those girls certainly would have
> been his peeps, given the Schenck connection. There might have been
> other people who were Virginia Rappe's friends who may not have been
> very happy with him, but I don't know. Jack White and Fred Fishback
> certainly worked together afterward; they were on opposite sides of the
> courtroom. I don't know if that mattered very much afterward.
>
> Frederica
>
After the trial Jack White got Roscoe work directing/writing comedies at
Educational for stars such as Al St. John, Lupino Lane, Lloyd Hamilton and
others. He wrote and directed quite a few films there between 1924-32. He
also directed Marion Davies in the Hearst produced feature THE RED MILL
(1927). Roscoe rarely lacked work in the post trial days even if he usually
worked uncredited or under a pseudonym (William Goodrich).
Joe Moore
Frederica
madevaraven wrote:
>
> After the trial Jack White got Roscoe work directing/writing comedies at
> Educational for stars such as Al St. John, Lupino Lane, Lloyd Hamilton and
> others. He wrote and directed quite a few films there between 1924-32. He
> also directed Marion Davies in the Hearst produced feature THE RED MILL
> (1927). Roscoe rarely lacked work in the post trial days even if he usually
> worked uncredited or under a pseudonym (William Goodrich).
>
> Joe Moore
That's the rather hazy impression that I had. I think these "feud"
stories are seriously overstated.
Frederica
Eric Grayson
Frederica <missme...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The dog is actually MGM star Lon Chaney, masquerading as his own dog
Sandy, but this was as close as he could get, makeup being what it was
in those days. Chaney was notoriously publicity shy.
Eric