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Message from discussion A Cure for Violence?

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Subject: Re: A Cure for Violence?
From: Blackblade <mcolebou...@googlemail.com>
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> If you know the traffic law (pedestrians have the right of way), then you=
 know that the biker was at fault for DELIBERATELY running into me (because=
 he didn't want to hear that he was there illegally). It's not brain scienc=
e. You just refuse to believe because you don't want to. Obviously, the jur=
y is irrelevant, since they weren't there. Nor were you. No HONEST person w=
ould claim to know what happened, given that they weren't there. Mountain b=
ikers are not honest. Every one of them lied under oath.

And, ta da, there we have it ... guilty from your own testimony.  Based on =
your own statements in this thread I would find you guilty of battery if on=
 a jury.

You CANNOT use Right of Way Precedence for pedestrians to illegally detain =
someone.  They are required to give way to you but have done so if they ens=
ure that you can continue on your way.  If you then choose to intentionally=
 change your direction and move in such a way as to occasion contact then Y=
OU are the guilty party and of a far more serious offence than trespass.

You are entitled to your views on mountain biking but no one else is obliga=
ted to stop and hear them.  You are not a police officer, it is not your la=
nd and you had not been authorised by anyone with the necessary authority t=
o enforce a no biking rule.  As such, you did indeed commit assault/battery=
 and, potentially, illegal detention (maybe US law is a little different on=
 that one). =20

You seem to think that because mountainbiking was not permitted on the trai=
l (although, by all accounts, it was the norm for bikes to use the trail) t=
hat this somehow gives you all kinds of rights over the individuals committ=
ing what is, technically, trespass.  It doesn't.  They are committing what =
in the US would be a misdemeanour and in the UK a civil matter.  A relative=
ly trivial offence.

In forcing them to stop or touching them in any way when it has been made p=
lain to you that this is undesired you commit an offence.

This is what I suspected was the case all along; you are indeed guilty of t=
he offences for which you were convicted because you either don't understan=
d, or don't want to understand, that you may not violate others rights just=
 because they are committing trespass because YOU are a private citizen and=
 not authorised to conduct enforcement.

By your own words ... GUILTY !!!