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Mike Vandeman  
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 More options May 18, 12:14 pm
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
From: Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 09:14:14 -0700
Local: Sun, May 18 2008 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: Comparing relative impacts of various trail user groups--No Surprise, Hikers and Equestrians Cause More Trail Damage than Mountain Bikers
On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:03:21 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero

<gcmschem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 16, 9:39 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 11:39:58 -0700 (PDT), Ed Pirrero

>> <gcmschem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On May 13, 3:50 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> >> OK, now it really is getting boring. Yet another article about how
>> >> mountain bikers cause less trail damage than hikers and equestrians.

>> >> "http://www.americantrails.org/resources/ManageMaintain/WKeenImpacts.html"

>> >> Can we finally begin to work on public policy changes that work to
>> >> reduce trail impact by reducing the number of hikers and equestrians,
>> >> and that encourage more mountain biking? The facts are clear and
>> >> indisputable.

>> >> There's never been any study that showed more damage from mountain bikes
>> >> than from any other non-motorized trail users. You had a lot of hikers
>> >> and equestrians not wanting to share trails that they felt they owned by
>> >> "being their first" as if that was justification for banning other
>> >> users, and they made a lot of outrageous and totally wrong statements
>> >> about trail impact.

>> >> The issue of trail usage needs to be raised at the highest level of
>> >> government. There are many trails in National Parks and National
>> >> Recreation Areas that should be open to mountain bikers.

>> >Obviously, the studies and the overview were done by mountain bikers.
>> >Duh.

>> Yes, but more importantly, they don't tell the truth.

>Funny that you didn't quote a single thing that they lied about.

>E.P.

Obviously, you didn't read my paper, because I quote LOTS of things
that they lied about.
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