Will a dealer let a costumer test ride a bike?
akira205
I’m considering a 07’ R1 over the 07’ Gsxr 1000 (I don’t like the dual
pipes). I truly believe that in order to get a feel of power and
handling of a bike is to actually ride them. One dealer suggested
that I buy the motorcycle but then, bring it back for a refund or
exchange if I didn’t like it. Your thoughts, please. :D
Leszek Karlik
> Hi! Is there a slick way to get a dealer to let me test ride a bike?
That depends on your costume, I guess.
Leslie
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Vito
On the off chance this isn't a silly troll ....
Put yourself in the dealer's place. Imagine you own a brand new R1 and a
GSXR. Some dude you don't really know wants to "Get the feel of" their
power and handling. Even tire wear will lower their value, not to mention
road rash.
Would you loan them to him?
Blattus Slafaly
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"akira205" <no...@000.com> wrote
> Hi! Is there a slick way to get a dealer to let me test ride a bike?
Yes. Don't try to be "slick". ;-)
> I truly believe that in order to get a feel of power and
> handling of a bike is to actually ride them.
If you are under ~30 or so and don't have a MC license yet, then forget it.
OTOH, if you present yourself like you have more than 2 brain cells and
appear to be serious about buying, something can usually be worked out.
Still need that MC license...... and riding IN on a bike often helps too.
If they won't do a test ride, maybe they would do a "rental". For that, you
probably would need verifiable insurance and a couple of hundred dollars
(deposit).
But.......if you come off as a squid they probably won't let you test a used
moped......much less a new $7K bike.
Bob Mann
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Some dealers have 1 (maybe a couple) demo bike.
They get a rebate from the manufacturer for lending it out but it's
usually a bit more representative of the entire line than one of the
extreme models.
No (good) reason you couldn't test drive a used bike though.
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Also let's not forget the liability if you splatter yourself as well as the
bike ...
oasysco
My local dealers don't do tradebacks. There's a 3-day recision rule in
VA for loans, but it's just for mortgages, AFAIK. In any case, I'll
bet the dealer will win over the costumer every time in my area.
Greg
Bob Nixon
Well if you come in the shop at 16-23 years old & wearing baggies &
didn't even bring a helmet / riding jacket, with an attitude of a kid
wanting an R1 over a GSXR simply because the GSXR has twin pipis
(doesn't look as cool to your buds) then I'd say your chances are
pretty slim on the test ride thing. The dealer can tell if you have at
least an 80IQ,
Next. judging from the demeaner of your post it's gonna be your 1st
bike and if you buy a 9 second/150MPH 1/4 mile 185MPH top speed bike
you might have a 50/50 chance of surviving your 1st year on the bike.
BTW, your insurance payments may cost more the your bike payments-:)
Bob Nixon..
Bruce Richmond
Sure, hand him cash equal to the value of the bike with the
understanding that if you bin it you bought it.
Some dealers do have demo bikes, but you're not likely to get a ride
if you use that line about power and handling.
Another place you might try would be at an AMA National roadrace. I
know several of the manufacturers give demo rides at Daytona, and I
think they do at some of the other tracks as well.
Bruce
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>On Jul 7, 4:23 am, akira205 <n...@000.com> wrote:
>> Hi! Is there a slick way to get a dealer to let me test ride a bike?
>> I’m considering a 07’ R1 over the 07’ Gsxr 1000 (I don’t like the dual
>> pipes). I truly believe that in order to get a feel of power and
>> handling of a bike is to actually ride them. One dealer suggested
>> that I buy the motorcycle but then, bring it back for a refund or
>> exchange if I didn’t like it. Your thoughts, please. :D
>
>Sure, hand him cash equal to the value of the bike with the
>understanding that if you bin it you bought it.
And if you bin it into someone's car, or an old lady crossing
the street, and if you're nearly ( but not quite ) killed and need a
million dollars of medical care plus life-time care ( or if you're
killed and your family is deprived of your continued existence and all
the wonderful benefits thereof ), who pays for all that ? Whose
insurance ? When the insurance runs out and the victim takes someone
to court for another several million in damages, who pays ? Even if
you win, who pays for your lawyers ?
'Your honor, ladies and gentelmen of the jury, this dealer 'KNEW OR
SHOULD HAVE KNOWN' that it was unwise to hand the keys to AN EVIL
KILLER DEMON-POSSESSED FAST RACE BIKE, that he was unfamiliar with,
and without providing any safety training or certification', and they
'KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN' that harm was likely to come to plaintiff
due to their negligence. We hereby request compensatory damages of $
10,000,000, plus punitive damages of $ 30,000,000, plus $ 2,000,000
per year for life for ongoing medical care for this vegetable, my
client'.
Oh, and his wfe wants another $ 5,000,000 because he won't be
able to get it up any more.
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Vito
> BTW, your insurance payments may cost more the your bike payments-:)
Yup, SWMBO got $1000 off the first GSXR in the Richmond Va area (years ago).
When none of the wishful buyers could afford the insurance, the dealer
offered to pay the first $1000. But her insurance was cheaper because she
wasn't under 25 with a zillion tickets. Made a great sport tourer for a
girl.
kotakeripik
> "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2...@yahoo.com> wrote
i think it depends on each dealer. the have their rules, some may
allow you to test drive and some may not.
S'mee
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:10:41 -0700 (PDT), Bruce Richmond
>
You don't ride and you PRESUME to use an auto incident that YOU caused
due to your incompetance behind the wheel. Damn that's pretty ballsy
for a spineless jellyfish cage monkey like you.
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J. Clarke
It's interesting that it's OK the dealer to sell the guy this lethal
weapon but not to loan it to him. Seems to me that they're equally
negligent in either case.
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Jeff
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When the bike is _purchased_, the buyer assumes the liability and signs
away the right to sue the dealer as part of the sales contract.
J. Clarke
In which case one can sign a similar contract waiving liability for a
test ride.
Assuming of course that such waivers have any real force in law.
Vito
>> When the bike is _purchased_, the buyer assumes the liability and
>> signs away the right to sue the dealer as part of the sales
>> contract.
>
> In which case one can sign a similar contract waiving liability for a
> test ride.
>
> Assuming of course that such waivers have any real force in law.
>
Yuppie signs a waver and goes on a poker run. Hurrying to the next card he
crashes into the minivan carrying the Baptist choir to practice. Several
kids are injured. Yuppie explaines that he was doing a POKER run - clearly
a devil's race. The waver keeps Yuppie from suing the sponsoring club but
the choir sues him and the club. Yuppie signed up to 'hold the club
harmless' but once the choir gets all his assets he can no longer do that
and the club (or sponsoring dealer) pays the rest.
adventuremyk
Generally it works on the 'buy it and if you dont' like it in 10-20
miles bring it back' method. Dealerships do not generally have
insurance that would cover test rides as the cost would just be
insane. Also, they don't know what your riding skill is (or more
often, lack of it) so why in the world would they usually turn a bike
over to you?
There are dealerships that do test rides on bikes. The vast majority
will be cruisers, the odd standards, dualsports, and touring bikes.
They do not normally turn hyperbikes into demo's. The factory will
often cruise around with an 18 wheeler full of their bikes for demo's
but they have their own insurance (not the dealers) and are set up to
ONLY do demo's. Aprilia and Ducati do this.
There are some dealerships, usually high end bikes (Ducati, BMW, etc.)
that will allow test rides. We have one here in town with Ducati, BMW,
Triumph, and a few others that keep ther bikes 'hot' (rideable) and
encourage demo's. I recently took advantage of this with the new 848
and that will be my next sport bike, based heavily upon that demo
ride.
For those that allow the demo's there will be minimum criteria and it
will usually include:
A motorcycle endorsement that covers the kind of bike you are looking
to ride (IE: an under 600cc license won't get you onto a literbike).
Current and verifiable insurance that will cover the motorcycle. Your
car insurance probably will NOT cover them. I'd highly suggest you
call before you ride or you will likely find yourself in a really bad
situation should something happen.
They generally want some form of proof you have ability to buy the
bike you are looking to ride and a genuine interest in purchasing it.
There will be waivers to be signed and generally a 'if I break it I
bought it' clause.
Most places won't even demo a used sportbike. The perception on a
sportbike is dramatically different than a cruiser and it's far to
easy for people to get in over their heads in no time.
Come to think of it, out of all the Ducati and Aprilia demo's I have
seen, I have yet to ever go to one where someone in the first 1-3
groups didn't wreck (or in some cases total) a bike that they swore
they knew how to ride.
Robert L Bass
About a year ago I got interested in buying a Suzuki M109R. I asked for a
test ride and the dealer said they couldn't due to liability reasons.
Instead, the salesman let me try his personal ride. Note, however, that I had
already bought a smaller bike, several helmets and other gear from that
dealer. They also knew that I could afford the new bike and that I was
serious about making a purchase decision.
I bought the M109R and enjoyed it a lot. Unfortunately, their mechanic made
some serious errors which cost me a lot to repair. The bike is in the shop
now (different dealer) so I bought a little Honda Shadow to ride while it's
down.
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