Death wish.
Snogfest Hosebeast
I even used to be an instructor on motorcycle safety courses. I ride
just as badly on the TDM as the R1.
It seems to come down to boredom and lack of stimulation in life, so I
get on the bike and feel I have to ride like a complete twonk. I do
behave meself in 30, 40 and 50 MPH zones, 99 % of the time, but once
I'm on the open road I partake of :
insane overtaking manouevers ( not such a big deal on the R1 )
totally amazing lane-splitting, especially between trucks
lots of rude gestures to car drivers for their driving abilities
make inflamatory comments on NG's (this is a very sad thing to do)
I seem to find myself unable to help doing these things.
I don't:
speed in built up areas
do wheelies, donuts
have a load exhaust
behave badly to other bikers ( I stop to offer assistance, always
wave/nod)
Is it all down to low self esteem ? <barf>
I do tend to think I'm superior to people in cars <exposes true
feelings>
Should I just stop bathing, get some tat's, and ride an old Harley with
open pipes ? get a scooter ? a Huge Wing ? a BMW ?
--
R1, TDM.
Kiwi.
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Eddy Hops
>I'm on the open road I partake of :
>insane overtaking manouevers ( not such a big deal on the R1 )
>totally amazing lane-splitting, especially between trucks
>lots of rude gestures to car drivers for their driving abilities
>make inflamatory comments on NG's (this is a very sad thing to do)
Great point. I am sometimes guilty of the same.
This is the reason new riders shouldn't be buying ZX11/900RR/GSXR11/XX etc...
anyone can say that they can/will ride within their limits while learning, and
"grow" into their Hayabusa... but things can change when the throttle is in
hand.
>Should I just stop bathing, get some tat's, and ride an old Harley with
>open pipes ? get a scooter ?
I dunno 'bout that... I've noticed that I can be WORSE on a scooter or slower
bike... Sometimes I'll find myself saying "Heh, this little thing can't hurt
me" as I'm scraping plastic on a CH150. Speaking of... has anyone got one of
these for sale?
John D.
"If God dropped acid, would he see people?' " ~G.C.
r_klein...@my-deja.com
Snogfest Hosebeast <snogfest_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I don't:
> speed in built up areas
> do wheelies, donuts
> have a load exhaust
> behave badly to other bikers ( I stop to offer assistance, always
> wave/nod)
>
> Is it all down to low self esteem ?
Obviously.
Kevin Quosig
my Zuma at 35mph without my Sportex jacket on would grind away some skin
and bones before coming to a stop. If it is motorized and does over
15-20 mph, it can kill you just as well as a 200mph Suzuki super sport bike[1].
;-)
[Okay, so why am I here? I learn alot here, and Sport (non-squids that
is) and Touring riders are always polite and courteous to me...let me in
on the camraderie of the 2-wheelers. Okay, so I also wouldn't mind a
PC800, ST1100 or something like a small 500cc sportbike, but sometimes
financial situations are the overwhelming concern. FWIW...]
Kevin Quosig
kevin at quosig dot com
--
1999 Red Yamaha Zuma II
49cc, aka "Little Mule"
--
San Leandro, CA, USA
Friday, September 3, 1999
11:00 AM PDT
[1] Because I can never remember how to spell the name of that Suzuki
Hyuba-whatsit peach-n-white, bubble-looking space bike. ;-)
> >Should I just stop bathing, get some tat's, and ride an old Harley with
> >open pipes ? get a scooter ?
>
> I dunno 'bout that... I've noticed that I can be WORSE on a scooter or slower
> bike... Sometimes I'll find myself saying "Heh, this little thing can't hurt
> me" as I'm scraping plastic on a CH150. Speaking of... has anyone got one of
> these for sale?*
jmar...@my-deja.com
...It seems to come down to boredom and lack of stimulation in life, so
I get on the bike and feel I have to ride like a complete twonk. I do
> behave meself in 30, 40 and 50 MPH zones, 99 % of the time,...
Yeah right! I believe you.
...but once I'm on the open road I partake of :
> insane overtaking manouevers ( not such a big deal on the R1 )
> totally amazing lane-splitting, especially between trucks
> lots of rude gestures to car drivers for their driving abilities
> make inflamatory comments on NG's (this is a very sad thing to do)
> I seem to find myself unable to help doing these things.
Well, at least your on the right track because you are admitting to
your dirty deeds! Anyway, it's not because you can't help yourself.
It's because you won't. You partake in the above because you can and
you enjoy it. Makes you feel like a scoundrel in a sea of yuppies??
Personally I enjoy that feeling. I don't like being a part of the
yuppy crowd. BTW, "yuppie" stands for Young Urban Professionals that
drive expensive cars and have a house in the suburbs with 1.2 kids,
etc. At least it does here in America. Don't know what they're called
in Kiwiland(New Zealand, Heh-heh).
> I don't:
> speed in built up areas
> do wheelies, donuts
> have a load exhaust
> behave badly to other bikers ( I stop to offer assistance, always
> wave/nod)
Sure. So do I.
> Is it all down to low self esteem ? <barf>
I don't think so. If you had that you wouldn't be riding a
motorcycle. It takes lots of self confidence to ride one!
> I do tend to think I'm superior to people in cars <exposes true
> feelings>
Hah! See my above comment.
> Should I just stop bathing, get some tat's, and ride an old Harley
with open pipes ?
You'll get even worse.
...get a scooter ?
You'll definitely kill yourself. If you can't control yourself in an
R1, a scooter will only frustrate you even more.
...a Huge Wing?
See "scooter" comment.
...a BMW ?
Nope. Still won't improve your situation. You'll just pay more for it.
> --
> R1, TDM.
> Kiwi.
My advice is to stick with the R1. Better to be a scoundrel in a sea
of yuppies than to be just like everyone else. My opinion anyway.
jmar...@my-deja.com
Kevin Quosig <i...@quosig.com> wrote:
> As I can attest, even 5mph on a Mtn. Bike can hurt...I bet falling off
> my Zuma at 35mph without my Sportex jacket on would grind away some
skin and bones before coming to a stop.
A coworker of mine ground his leg against dirt playing baseball. It
looks like he has a 3rd degree burn and he described at as always
hurting and "leaking". Whatever that means. And he wasn't even on a 2-
wheeled machine of any kind!
> [Okay, so why am I here? I learn alot here, and Sport (non-squids that
> is) and Touring riders are always polite and courteous to me...
That's because they feel sorry for you! :-)
...let me in on the camraderie of the 2-wheelers. Okay, so I also
wouldn't mind a PC800, ST1100 or something like a small 500cc
sportbike, but sometimes financial situations are the overwhelming
concern. FWIW...]
So you can afford a PC(personal computer not the Honda!) but you can't
afford to get a REAL sportbike?? Not even a 250cc Ninja?? Geez! :-)
Heh-heh! My last two comments are just friendly ribbing Kevin. I just
couldn't resist! No hard feelings hey. :-) I rode scooters too when
I first started and still like them. In fact, I make it a habit of
waving at scooter riders whenever I see them. I find them to be quite
friendly and enthusiastic.
Sky King
Snogfest Hosebeast wrote in message <7qornv$jp7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> so I
>get on the bike and feel I have to ride like a complete twonk.
Sounds like you need a couple of track days or an endurance race to cure
your craving for excitement.
Remember, there are small children and young drivers out there, they don't
deserve to be injured or scared out of their wits. We owe it to each other
to ride and drive responsibly, even though it is very hard to resist when
you have all that power and performance at your fingertips.
I'm sure you realize that you can't keep this up forever, without injuring
yourself or someone else.
Sometimes a Twonk too,
Sky King
YZF600R
FXRS Lowrider
Racer X
Racer X
TZ250R
Bimota SB6
Honda VF1000R
Kevin Quosig
>
> In article <37D00DB9...@quosig.com>,
> Kevin Quosig <i...@quosig.com> wrote:
> > As I can attest, even 5mph on a Mtn. Bike can hurt...I bet falling off
> > my Zuma at 35mph without my Sportex jacket on would grind away some
> skin and bones before coming to a stop.
>
> A coworker of mine ground his leg against dirt playing baseball. It
> looks like he has a 3rd degree burn and he described at as always
> hurting and "leaking". Whatever that means. And he wasn't even on a 2-
> wheeled machine of any kind!
*nods*
> > [Okay, so why am I here? I learn alot here, and Sport (non-squids that
> > is) and Touring riders are always polite and courteous to me...
>
> That's because they feel sorry for you! :-)
If I hadn't read to the bottom, I'd have assumed you were a squid. ;-)
I've actually *talked* to quite a few Sportbike folks (I don't approach
squids, they are almost always punk kids around here). Most find my Zuma
reasonably "cool", for scooter. Heck, a few of you from Europe pointed
out the Aprilla Dragster or the Yamaha Aerox Max Biaggi as scooters even
a sportbiker could love. Now a Spree is a different story...
;-)
> ...let me in on the camraderie of the 2-wheelers. Okay, so I also
> wouldn't mind a PC800, ST1100 or something like a small 500cc
> sportbike, but sometimes financial situations are the overwhelming
> concern. FWIW...]
>
> So you can afford a PC(personal computer not the Honda!)
Can't afford a PC either. And my PC doesn't cost $5000+ dollars...not
even a high-end Macintosh.
> but you can't
> afford to get a REAL sportbike?? Not even a 250cc Ninja?? Geez! :-)
New? My view around local bike shops puts the smallest new bike at
600cc and thousands more than even a Helix 250. Buying a new PC800 is
just another thing entirely...they are practically a scooter (even the
owners admit that). Reliable as the Earth turning. ;-) I know enough
about the mechanics of a real motorcycle to fill a thimble, buying used
in my case is suicide (I could get a lemon and never know it until too late).
(BTW: The little Ninjas look very cool, saw one the other day. Little
Kawas are cool looking too...much more "Honey I shrunk the sportbike"
than most sub-500 bikes look. Are they still made? The local shops don't
have anything that small!)
Yes, I'm poor and have to think practical. No matter how nifty,
Sportbikes are hardly practical, and even a ST1100 or a used PC800
pushes the practicality limit a bit for the money. 50cc sips gas, caries
lots of sh*t, and I've decided even at 35mph beats the hell out of
driving my truck!
However, if I had the money to blow, I'd get a Sportbike. Okay, enough
is enough...off topic bigtime--I actually enjoy my scooter, but also
think Sportbikes are neat. I'm hear to learn, observe, and participate
when I can.
However, a word of caution...when an Aprilla Dragster pulls-up to you at
a light, s/he might just beat you down the block and then some. Make
sure you're on the freeway where your top speed comes into play if you
don't want to be embarrased by "a little scooter." ;-)
> Heh-heh! My last two comments are just friendly ribbing Kevin. I just
> couldn't resist! No hard feelings hey. :-)
Thanks, because I wasn't too sure--had to go back an remove rather
stinging comments from this post. ;-)
> I rode scooters too when
> I first started and still like them. In fact, I make it a habit of
> waving at scooter riders whenever I see them. I find them to be quite
> friendly and enthusiastic.
I think we'll both agree than 99% of the Harley/cruiser riders (this
includes the Honda and Yamaha copies) are idiots (and other strong
words). The only exception is that some of the touring-equipped Harley
riders (think: Harley's Goldwing), are more cordial.
Keep the rubber side down!
Kevin Quosig
kevin at quosig dot com
--
1999 Red Yamaha Zuma II
49cc, aka "Little Mule"
--
San Leandro, CA, USA
Friday, September 3, 1999
3:32 PM PDT
Some Guy on a Bike
> I'm sure you will change your ways once you're in a wheel chair, or a grave.
That's sort of a given, isn't it?
Plonker.
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Snogfest Hosebeast <snogfest_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7qornv$jp7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Should I just stop bathing, get some tat's, and ride an old Harley with
>
Bill Crocker
wish!
Bill
97 Valk
Snogfest Hosebeast <snogfest_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7qornv$jp7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Well, I'm beginning to think I have one.
> I even used to be an instructor on motorcycle safety courses. I ride
> just as badly on the TDM as the R1.
> It seems to come down to boredom and lack of stimulation in life, so I
> get on the bike and feel I have to ride like a complete twonk. I do
> behave meself in 30, 40 and 50 MPH zones, 99 % of the time, but once
> I'm on the open road I partake of :
> insane overtaking manouevers ( not such a big deal on the R1 )
> totally amazing lane-splitting, especially between trucks
> lots of rude gestures to car drivers for their driving abilities
> make inflamatory comments on NG's (this is a very sad thing to do)
>
> I seem to find myself unable to help doing these things.
[clipped]
Bob Proctor
I start out my ride to/from work the same way ... be cool, enjoy the
time, but before long something snaps inside me and I find my self
"looking for daylight" just to get past these assholes in their
minivans/suv's/pickups etc. Speed increase, lane splitting occurs
(however I try to avoid eye contact with these people ... you never
know) and then I arrive at my destination, look skyward to thank my
heavenly father, and go on with my life!
I may be wrong about this, but I believe this is the adrenaline rush we
need on a daily basis.
Bob
'99 VFR
Neal Champion
>
>Snogfest Hosebeast wrote in message <7qornv$jp7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>> so I
>>get on the bike and feel I have to ride like a complete twonk.
>
>
>Remember, there are small children and young drivers out there, they don't
>deserve to be injured or scared out of their wits. We owe it to each other
>to ride and drive responsibly, even though it is very hard to resist when
>you have all that power and performance at your fingertips.
>
>I'm sure you realize that you can't keep this up forever, without injuring
>yourself or someone else.
>
Oh do stop being so worthy
Champ
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Neal Champion
>It seems to come down to boredom and lack of stimulation in life, so I
>get on the bike and feel I have to ride like a complete twonk.
You say that like it's a bad thing
Chris Mullins
>
> Fuck the young drivers - they're the silly cunts who cripple us.
> Fuck track days: they don't teach you anything about road lore.
> Fuck kids - they need a good fright in order to learn.
>
I am sure that I'm not the only one finding irony here.
Older? Perhaps.
Gentleman? My ass.
--
Chris Mullins
Dave
Snogfest Hosebeast wrote:
> Well, I'm beginning to think I have one.
> I even used to be an instructor on motorcycle safety courses. I ride
> just as badly on the TDM as the R1.
> It seems to come down to boredom and lack of stimulation in life, so I
> get on the bike and feel I have to ride like a complete twonk. I do
> behave meself in 30, 40 and 50 MPH zones, 99 % of the time, but once
> I'm on the open road I partake of :
> insane overtaking manouevers ( not such a big deal on the R1 )
> totally amazing lane-splitting, especially between trucks
> lots of rude gestures to car drivers for their driving abilities
> make inflamatory comments on NG's (this is a very sad thing to do)
>
> I seem to find myself unable to help doing these things.
>
> I don't:
> speed in built up areas
> do wheelies, donuts
> have a load exhaust
> behave badly to other bikers ( I stop to offer assistance, always
> wave/nod)
>
> Is it all down to low self esteem ? <barf>
> I do tend to think I'm superior to people in cars <exposes true
> feelings>
> Should I just stop bathing, get some tat's, and ride an old Harley with
> open pipes ? get a scooter ? a Huge Wing ? a BMW ?
>
> --
> R1, TDM.
> Kiwi.
> Don't do surgery with a chainsaw unless you're dealing with zombies
>
Sky King
By reading your recent post it is hard for me not to consider you a rude,
obnoxious, shallow, prejudice,self-centered, ignorant, pompous ass that is
extremely proud of every aspect of my description. However, I will withhold
judgment until such time as I have reams of irrevocable, irrefutable ,
indisputable, evidence to that effect. I am turning the other cheek. You
are forgiven.
Sky King
The Older Gentleman wrote in message
<1dxmp4a.5ty...@host62-6-24-236.btinternet.com>...
>Sky King <etem...@gs.verio.net> wrote:
>
>> Snogfest Hosebeast wrote in message <7qornv$jp7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>> > so I
>> >get on the bike and feel I have to ride like a complete twonk.
>>
>> Sounds like you need a couple of track days or an endurance race to cure
>> your craving for excitement.
>>
>> Remember, there are small children and young drivers out there, they
don't
>> deserve to be injured or scared out of their wits. We owe it to each
other
>> to ride and drive responsibly, even though it is very hard to resist when
>> you have all that power and performance at your fingertips.
>>
>> I'm sure you realize that you can't keep this up forever, without
injuring
>> yourself or someone else.
>>
>Another fucking self-righteous holier-than-thou newbie who's only been
>riding for a year and who thinks he knows the whole fucking
>encyclopaedia-full of biking lore so's he can lecture the rest of us.
>
>I bet you wear a dayglo tabard and have an IAM badge, and tut-tut at
>people you see riding in jeans and trainers. And if you read the
>original posting properly, you'd see that he says he doesn't speed in
>built-up areas, which is exactly what we want to hear. Have fun on the
>open road, but take it easy in town.
>
>Why do twats like you make your first postings either to sell some
>shite-heap of a bike (usually a Harley-Davidson and *always* accompanied
>by a fucking binary) or to prove that you're somehow more "repsonsible"
>and "thoughtful" and "involved" than the rest of us?
>
>Fuck the young drivers - they're the silly cunts who cripple us. Fuck
>track days: they don't teach you anything about road lore. Fuck kids -
>they need a good fright in order to learn.
>
>And fuck you.
>
>Yes, I'm pissed.
>
>--
>Neil Murray
>Jawa Combo 750S S GT750 CB400F CD175
>BOF #30 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 WUSS#5 OETKBC
>http://www.btinternet.com/~Chateau.Murray/homepage2.html
Father Dale
> track days: they don't teach you anything about road lore. Fuck kids -
> they need a good fright in order to learn.
>
> And fuck you.
>
> Yes, I'm pissed.
Oh, come on, Neil; tell us how you REALLY feel....
--
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Some people would rather be a result of the past than a cause of the future
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Sky King
Neal Champion wrote in message
>
>Oh do stop being so worthy
>
>Champ
>Kawasaki ZX9RC2, H1B (in bits)
Don't delude yourself, I'm as guilty as everyone else. I have a son 23 and
and a daughter 20 and I'm pretty good with the speeches...aren't I.
What's a (H1B)? I owned a 1974 Kawasaki 500H1 (Red) from 1976-1982. Would
the "B" have been an earlier model. I've never been one delve that deeply
into those numbers, I just remember the ones I needed to get the correct
parts.
Cheers,
Sky King
Dan Nitschke
> Won't it be nice when we are all Earthlings -
So what *are* you, then?
> as well as Americans, English,
> Kiwis, Aussies, Serbs, French, German, Dutch, Jews, Palestinians, Chinese,
> etc. etc?
I'm already several of those.
--
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and the idol you thought you'd be... is just another
zero. - Steve Taylor, "Hero"
Sky King
Neal Champion wrote in message ...>>What's a (H1B>
>Well, all the 500s before the KH500 were H1s - the first was the >plain old
H1, then came the H1A, H1B etcup to, I think, the H1E.
>If you owned one for 6 years then you know a darn site more than me
>about them :-)
>
>Champ
Ha... I said I owned one for 6 years, I had been riding my brothers 1972
model (orange) since1973. Riding hell, he hardly ever saw it. It was mine!
What a swell brother. My father-in-law had a 1969 or a 1970 model for a
short time(too fast for him). I always wanted that blue 1972, H2-750
though. That rear fender set up was too much.
Being farthest from the injection pump, the left cylinder was the first to
show signs of wear.
Denco was the expansion chambers of choice. Don't use the crappy 3 into 1,
it gives you more low end but kills the top end...which is the only end.
Just one more time I'd like to point that baby down an empty stretch of
road, grab a handfull of throttle and we're gone. That familiar "HOWL" of
the Triple, engine screaming, front wheel slightly off the pavement,
knowing you can't stop for shit, just keep it pointed. Get another grip
on the throttle and make sure it's wide open, Hold it, hold it, speed
increasing, helment and face shield being pushed into your face (mine didn't
fit too well) wind buffeting, holding on tight, the blast of the
wind(square in your chest) almost tearing you from the bike(I weighed
110LBS) and then... Then the crowning moment, to look back... way back and
see it...The blue smoke laying down upon the road sort of like the contrails
of an airliner. Signifying that we were here, and gone. Roll off that
throttle and set up for the right hand sweeper. Once through give the
throttle a nudge, to get that yack-a-ty-yack-a-ty "in your face sound".
Yep, gotta love em'. Von Duhamel was my hero back then.
Thanks for the memory,
Sky King
Molly Fletcher
jmar...@my-deja.com writes:
>> Is it all down to low self esteem ? <barf>
>
> I don't think so. If you had that you wouldn't be riding a
> motorcycle. It takes lots of self confidence to ride one!
Bollocks.
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http://www.trans-world.demon.co.uk/molly/
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Doc Gonz0
<cmul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The Older Gentleman Wrote:
>>
>> Fuck the young drivers - they're the silly cunts who cripple us.
>> Fuck track days: they don't teach you anything about road lore.
>> Fuck kids - they need a good fright in order to learn.
>>
>
>I am sure that I'm not the only one finding irony here.
>
>Older? Perhaps.
>Gentleman? My ass.
Where the fuck are all these cunts coming from? I thought the school
holidays were over...
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Sky King <etem...@gs.verio.net> spoke from on high
thusly:news:BShA3.11575$Ik5....@dfw-read.news.verio.net...
>
> The Older Gentleman wrote in message
> <1dxmp4a.5ty...@host62-6-24-236.btinternet.com>...
> >>
> >Another fucking self-righteous holier-than-thou newbie
Check.
> >
> >Fuck the young drivers - they're the silly cunts who cripple us. Fuck
> >track days: they don't teach you anything about road lore. Fuck kids -
> >they need a good fright in order to learn.
> >
Fuck kids? I thought that was BB's peccadillo.:-) [1]
> >And fuck you.
> >
> >Yes, I'm pissed.
> >
Saturday night shock horror.
>
> By reading your recent post it is hard for me not to consider you a rude,
> obnoxious, shallow, prejudice,self-centered, ignorant, pompous ass that is
> extremely proud of every aspect of my description.
Hmmm.....
> However, I will withhold
> judgment until such time as I have reams of irrevocable, irrefutable ,
> indisputable, evidence to that effect.
About Tuesday, then.
> I am turning the other cheek. You
> are forgiven.
How Sweet.
>
> Sky King
ITYM "Space Cadet"
--
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nick.k...@which.net
GL1500SE/CBR1000FL/TS185C
IMC #4 TPPFATUICG #7
NZMSC
> BTW, "yuppie" stands for Young Urban Professionals that
>drive expensive cars and have a house in the suburbs with 1.2 kids,
>etc. At least it does here in America. Don't know what they're called
>in Kiwiland(New Zealand, Heh-heh).
Yuppies. It's all part of the international language and with the Internet,
that language is spreading wider and faster by the minute.
Won't it be nice when we are all Earthlings - as well as Americans, English,
Kiwis, Aussies, Serbs, French, German, Dutch, Jews, Palestinians, Chinese,
etc. etc?
Allan Kirk
New Zealand Motorcycle Safety Consultants
Website: http://www.megarider.com
NZMSC
>Well, I'm beginning to think I have one.
>I even used to be an instructor on motorcycle safety courses. I ride
>just as badly on the TDM as the R1.
>get on the bike and feel I have to ride like a complete twonk.
You haven't been on advanced enough riding courses.
There's a skill called psychological control in riding. You use it:
(a) to control others around you.
(b) to control yourself.
It is arguably the hardest riding skill of all to learn .
All the best motorcycle racers have it (MUST have it) and all the best road
riders have it, too.
It's a learnt skill and is used in conjunction with, and as part of, risk
management.
Learn it. There are ways.
It will save your life.
jmar...@my-deja.com
mo...@eepc-mf.bath.ac.uk (Molly Fletcher) wrote:
> In article <7qpd0r$1fh$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> jmar...@my-deja.com writes:
>
> >> Is it all down to low self esteem ? <barf>
> >
> > I don't think so. If you had that you wouldn't be riding a
> > motorcycle. It takes lots of self confidence to ride one!
>
> Bollocks.
I take it you mean "bullshit"? Pardon me but that "English" term is
still something of an enigma to me since I'm an American who can't
speak proper English.
So if you disagree, prove me otherwise. Or else, piss off!
jmar...@my-deja.com
Kevin Quosig <i...@quosig.com> wrote:
I've actually *talked* to quite a few Sportbike folks (I don't approach
> squids, they are almost always punk kids around here). Most find my
Zuma reasonably "cool", for scooter.
I'm sometimes a squid and a punk on a bad day.
My view around local bike shops puts the smallest new bike at 600cc and
thousands more than even a Helix 250.
The Kawasaki Ninja 250R is still in production and is MSRP'd at
$2,999. You just have to find a shop that carries them.
> Yes, I'm poor and have to think practical. No matter how nifty,
> Sportbikes are hardly practical, and even a ST1100 or a used PC800
> pushes the practicality limit a bit for the money.
That's not a good generalization. Some sportbikes are quite
practical. The Ninja 250/500R and the Suzuki GS500E are very practical
machines. Affordable to insure and maintain. Especially the air
cooled Suzuki.
> However, a word of caution...when an Aprilla Dragster pulls-up to you
at a light, s/he might just beat you down the block and then some. Make
> sure you're on the freeway where your top speed comes into play if you
> don't want to be embarrased by "a little scooter." ;-)
I have yet to see such a scooter in person. The last time I checked it
was priced at $3,500. Why anyone would buy such a machine is beyond me
because you can get the aforementioned 250R for less and a GS500E for
the same price and go a bit faster. Anyway, at the risk of sounding
like I'm gloating, it would take no less than a Hayabusa to beat my
ZX11D down the block. Trust me.
> ...had to go back an remove rather stinging comments from this post.
;-)
Ouch!
> I think we'll both agree than 99% of the Harley/cruiser riders (this
> includes the Honda and Yamaha copies) are idiots (and other strong
> words).
Hmmm....I would have to disagree. I think idiot(and other strong
words) Harley/Jap Cruiser riders are more an exception rather than the
norm. At least in my experience they've been okay.
>
> Keep the rubber side down!
> Kevin Quosig
I try. All the time. :-)
Windy
Chateau...@btinternet.com (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
>
>Yes, I'm pissed.
(1)
Nothing new there then.
Nothing new in your pissed up rants either. It's
high time you submitted new copy, Murray.
(1) For the benefit of our friends across the pond
this is the British "pissed" (2) not the US
"pissed".
(2) Acherly, to make it worse it's British
journalist pissed.
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Windy
Postm...@127.0.0.1 (Doc Gonz0) wrote:
>
>Where the fuck are all these cunts coming from? I thought the school
>holidays were over...
Were that so then they wouldn't be here using
naughty words in an attempt to shock those of us
with a more sensitive disposition.
*faint*
Jaize
Your little speech was utterly, utterly deserved.
Although I am only just becoming a not-newbie (three years riding and about
40,000 miles) I can perfectly understand your attitude.
We the great biking fraternity (and sisters (don't know the word for it
though), should get together and rid the UK of pizza boys, jack-the-lad
scooter boys, and pet hate - London only, I think - blokes on C90's learning
the "knowledge".
Bastards one and all.
Keep up the good work Mr. Murray!
Jaize.
Mark Abraham
>You haven't been on advanced enough riding courses.
>There's a skill called psychological control in riding. You use it:
>(a) to control others around you.
>(b) to control yourself.
>It is arguably the hardest riding skill of all to learn .
It is arguably non existent.
You may control yourself
You may prepare yourself for all eventualities you can conceive
You cannot control others around you
Mark
Neal Champion
>What's a (H1B)? I owned a 1974 Kawasaki 500H1 (Red) from 1976-1982. Would
>the "B" have been an earlier model. I've never been one delve that deeply
>into those numbers, I just remember the ones I needed to get the correct
>parts.
Well, all the 500s before the KH500 were H1s - the first was the plain
old H1, then came the H1A, H1B etcup to, I think, the H1E.
If you owned one for 6 years then you know a darn site more than me
about them :-)
Champ
Neal Champion
>Isn't it time for your medicine? Prosac, perhaps.
He's full of his preffered medicine - claret :-)
>By reading your recent post it is hard for me not to consider you a rude,
>obnoxious, shallow, prejudice,self-centered, ignorant, pompous ass that is
>extremely proud of every aspect of my description.
That's Neil!
>However, I will withhold
>judgment until such time as I have reams of irrevocable, irrefutable ,
>indisputable, evidence to that effect. I am turning the other cheek. You
>are forgiven.
Blimey!
Molly Fletcher
jmar...@my-deja.com writes:
>> >> Is it all down to low self esteem ? <barf>
>> >
>> > I don't think so. If you had that you wouldn't be riding a
>> > motorcycle. It takes lots of self confidence to ride one!
>>
>> Bollocks.
>
> I take it you mean "bullshit"? Pardon me but that "English" term is
> still something of an enigma to me since I'm an American who can't
> speak proper English.
Nope I mean bollocks. Indeed the term seems sigularly appropriate in the
circumstances.
> So if you disagree, prove me otherwise. Or else, piss off!
Prove you otherwise? Assuming you mean prove your hypothisis wrong I
suppose I could get into a phylisophical debate on the nature of proof but
I really can't be bothered. What I can say is I rode bikes for years with
no self confidence. Indeed the fact I was riding bikes was related to the
lack of self confidence since going for a long ride, often through the
small hours of the morning is a great way to forget stuff that's screwing
up your head - or if not forget, at least avoid thinking about it.
Since at least some of us, ride (or have ridden) to avoid thinking about
our lack of self confidence, or the reason for it, it seems safe to say
that your statement that it takes a lot of self confidence to ride a bike
is as I said, bollocks.
I no longer have the self confidence problems I used to have since I
finally worked out the cause and did something about it. I do still ride
bikes, though now it is for different reasons.
NZMSC
>> Won't it be nice when we are all Earthlings -
Dan Nitschke wrote
>So what *are* you, then?
Damn! The Big Giant Head is gonna be really pissed off with me!
Allan Kirk
Nick Knowles
NZMSC <nzm...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:93652734...@estelle.paradise.net.nz...
ITYF Dan *is* the Big Giant Head.
Bastard Bear
Oh, FFS, don't encourage him; he's bad enough as it is ...
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>
>I had an E....
I've still got one.
Dan Nitschke
>
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
> >
> >I had an E....
>
> I've still got one.
"I'd like to buy a vowel..."
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>I had an E....
Wow! far out, man. Was it, like, totally cool?
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> Windy wrote:
> >
> > The Older Gentleman wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >I had an E....
> >
>
> "I'd like to buy a vowel..."
No hope.
Murray only does Cs and Gs
--
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There's a G for gaskets joke here somewhere but I can't be bothered
Veggie Dave
drivel about Neil:
>By reading your recent post it is hard for me not to consider you a rude,
>obnoxious, shallow, prejudice,self-centered, ignorant, pompous ass that is
>extremely proud of every aspect of my description.
You've met him then?
Still, when he's pissed he's even worse.
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just ain't worth riding
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drivel
>Where the fuck are all these cunts coming from? I thought the school
>holidays were over...
Have a look at the X-post - they're all yanks
Veggie Dave
following drivel
>> So if you disagree, prove me otherwise. Or else, piss off!
>
>Prove you otherwise? Assuming you mean prove your hypothisis wrong I
>suppose I could get into a phylisophical debate on the nature of proof but
>I really can't be bothered. What I can say is I rode bikes for years with
>no self confidence. Indeed the fact I was riding bikes was related to the
>lack of self confidence since going for a long ride, often through the
>small hours of the morning is a great way to forget stuff that's screwing
>up your head - or if not forget, at least avoid thinking about it.
>
>Since at least some of us, ride (or have ridden) to avoid thinking about
>our lack of self confidence, or the reason for it, it seems safe to say
>that your statement that it takes a lot of self confidence to ride a bike
>is as I said, bollocks.
>
>I no longer have the self confidence problems I used to have since I
>finally worked out the cause and did something about it. I do still ride
>bikes, though now it is for different reasons.
>
This reply Kinda makes you look like a complete fuckwit, doesn't it
jmarcelo...
JP Davis
>You cannot control others around you
I`ve got three kids - tell me about it :-0
JP
Neal Champion
>Just one more time I'd like to point that baby down an empty stretch of
>road, grab a handfull of throttle and we're gone. That familiar "HOWL" of
>the Triple, engine screaming, front wheel slightly off the pavement,
>knowing you can't stop for shit, just keep it pointed. Get another grip
>on the throttle and make sure it's wide open, Hold it, hold it, speed
>increasing, helment and face shield being pushed into your face (mine didn't
>fit too well) wind buffeting, holding on tight, the blast of the
>wind(square in your chest) almost tearing you from the bike(I weighed
>110LBS) and then... Then the crowning moment, to look back... way back and
>see it...The blue smoke laying down upon the road sort of like the contrails
>of an airliner. Signifying that we were here, and gone. Roll off that
>throttle and set up for the right hand sweeper. Once through give the
>throttle a nudge, to get that yack-a-ty-yack-a-ty "in your face sound".
>
<grin> Worthy of Hunter S Thompson, that paragraph.....
Mark Abraham
>since going for a long ride, often through the
>small hours of the morning is a great way to forget
Indeed and to relax by focussing on something other
than your normal worries.
I do this too or did.
It only works if you ride fast as then you have to give
100% concentration to avoid accidents.
I was lucky enough to have the Welsh countryside in
which to play after a stressful days work. It used to take
me about 2 hours before I was ready to come home.
Before anyone says it yes the sheep were relieved! [1]
Mark
[1] but not for any reason relating to wellie boots!
Mark
Jack
>On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:40:06 +0100,
>Chateau...@btinternet.com (The Older
>Gentleman) wrote:
>
>>
>>I had an E....
>
>I've still got one.
Don't wear it out...
--
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The longest recorded flight of a chicken
is thirteen seconds.
Nick Davies
NZMSC wrote in message <9364939...@estelle.paradise.net.nz>...
>jmar...@my-deja.com wrote
>
>> BTW, "yuppie" stands for Young Urban Professionals that
>>drive expensive cars and have a house in the suburbs with 1.2 kids,
>>etc. At least it does here in America. Don't know what they're called
>>in Kiwiland(New Zealand, Heh-heh).
>
a journalist to turn "YUMP" to "Yuppie". Might I propose that said
journalist may have been a septic*
Fat Nick Davies
Cockney rhyming slang, Septic Tank = Yank
Rick Damiani
>Thanks for the memory
And thank you for sharing yours. That was wonderful.
--
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Unless the host (that isn't close) ......... ri...@nospam.earthlink.net
is busy, hung or dead ..............................NGI# T695 DoD #2659
Sky King
NZMSC wrote in message <93656889...@estelle.paradise.net.nz>...
>Sky King wrote>Yeah, they're great memories, those mad days of youthful
riding.
>
>But I wonder why, when you revisit them in person these years later, the
>experience scares shit out of you.
I think the problem and the reason for the initial post was the fact that it
(riding fast) is so hard to resist, even years later. However, I do feel
that the track is the place for this type of riding, if you have the means.
Case in Point:
Myself, along with a few friends(some with bikes, some never owned one) are
currently prodding a 24 year old to slow down. He recently purchased an R1.
He rides 140 -160MPH in 45-55 mile speed zones and likes to "cut" and
"move"(his words for lane switching). The fellow has no leathers, gloves or
boots and us "older" guys are worried that he will injure himself...soon.
Cheers,
Sky King
PS I didn't realize these posts were going to so many newsgroups. I
thought I was replying to alt.motorcycle.sportbike in the US. It appears
there is a bit of a "cultural" difference, concerning what is and isn't
acceptable riding behavior.
Dan Nitschke
>
> Jack wrote:
>
> >Windy said:
> >
> >>The Older Gentleman wrote:
> >>
> >>>I had an E....
> >>
> >>I've still got one.
> >
> >Don't wear it out...
>
You called?
(I'm a bore, a rebore, and a treble bore, all in one.)
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Rick Damiani
>Where do you ride in the lane to control other drivers?
>
>Where do you stop at the lights to control other drivers?
>
>Where do you and do you not establish eye contact to control other drivers.
>
>What do you wear to help control other drivers?
>
>And that's just a small selection.
The above are examples of improving your visibility and taking all the
space you are entitled to. Being in their face and easily seen is not
even on the same planet and controlling their actions. After all, if
we could control the drivers around us they wouldn't run over us no
matter what our lane position was.
>A soap and flannel will help you get the egg off your face, Mark.
Perhaps you need to re-think your concept of control while taking your
own advice WRT eggs and soapy water.
You have a tremendous amount of useful information about motorcycle
safety *and* have the advantage of thinking about such things being
your bread and butter. Nevertheless, folks that disagree with you are
not necessarily wrong.
Rigger
>Case in point:
>Myself, along with a few friends(some with bikes, some never owned one) are
>currently prodding a 24 year old to slow down. He recently purchased an R1.
>He rides 140 -160MPH in 45-55 mile speed zones and likes to "cut" and
>"move"(his words for lane switching). The fellow has no leathers, gloves or
>boots and us "older" guys are worried that he will injure himself...soon.
...Thereby proving Darwin correct.
Any smackhead tripling the speed limit and refusing safety gear deserves
what s/he eventually will get.
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I don't think much, therefore I might not be.
Sky King
The Older Gentleman wrote in message
<1dxpa3n.vyr...@host62-6-11-192.btinternet.com>...
>>Sky King <etem...@gs.verio.net> wrote:
>>However, I do feel
>>that the track is the place for this type of riding, if you have the
>>means.
>Track riding teaches you loads about machine control, limits of
>adhesion, etc. but *nothing* about road sense.
Neil,
Do we agree that the track is a better place to exceed the speed limit by
50MPH than a public road? (No chastisement intended)
Please clarify/define what you mean by "road sense". Since I have been
street riding since the earily 1970's with nothing more than a couple of
bruises and broken clutch and brake levers (not withstanding, some
hellacious recoveries), I would assume that I must have a fair degree of
"road sense" and a very good guardian angle...maybe two. But then, I could
just be extremely lucky.
Also, consider in your response that I have the same problems with self
control as many others in the group. When I ride, I still feel like I'm 15
years old.
Cheers,
Sky King
98'YZF600R
>>
>> Case in Point:
>> Myself, along with a few friends(some with bikes, some never owned one)
are
>> currently prodding a 24 year old to slow down. He recently purchased an
R1.
>> He rides 140 -160MPH in 45-55 mile speed zones and likes to "cut" and
>> "move"(his words for lane switching). The fellow has no leathers, gloves
or
>> boots and us "older" guys are worried that he will injure himself...soon.
>He will crash and injure himself whatever he rides. The only thing is
>that at these speeds the injuries are likely to be more severe; indeed,
>terminal.
>>
>> PS I didn't realize these posts were going to so many newsgroups. I
>> thought I was replying to alt.motorcycle.sportbike in the US. It appears
>> there is a bit of a "cultural" difference, concerning what is and isn't
>> acceptable riding behavior.
>Check the headers next time.
>
>Yup: the septics seem to regard anything over 90mph as utterly
>indefensible behaviour. You want to read some of the Gold Wing owners'
>ride-out tips: maintain speed at 50mph, somebody ride point, three bikes
>with dustpans & brushes following behind to sweep up all the glitter
>that's fallen off....
>
>The idea of regularly going three-figure speeds on public roads is utter
>anathema to most of them.
>
>--
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>Jawa Combo 750S S GT750 CB400F CD175
>BOF #30 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 WUSS#5 OETKBC
>http://www.btinternet.com/~Chateau.Murray/homepage2.html
NZMSC
>Just one more time I'd like to point that baby down an empty stretch of
>road, grab a handfull of throttle and we're gone. That familiar "HOWL" of
>the Triple, engine screaming, front wheel slightly off the pavement,
>knowing you can't stop for shit, just keep it pointed. Get another grip
>on the throttle and make sure it's wide open, Hold it, hold it, speed
>increasing, helment and face shield being pushed into your face (mine
didn't
>fit too well) wind buffeting, holding on tight, the blast of the
>wind(square in your chest) almost tearing you from the bike(I weighed
>110LBS) and then... Then the crowning moment, to look back... way back and
>see it...The blue smoke laying down upon the road sort of like the
contrails
>of an airliner. Signifying that we were here, and gone. Roll off that
>throttle and set up for the right hand sweeper. Once through give the
>throttle a nudge, to get that yack-a-ty-yack-a-ty "in your face sound".
Yeah, they're great memories, those mad days of youthful riding.
But I wonder why, when you revisit them in person these years later, the
experience scares shit out of you.
Maybe it's something to do with less hormones and a better understanding of
the consequences if... <G>
Allan Kirk
New Zealand Motorcycle Safety Consultants
Website: http://www.megarider.com
NZMSC
>What I can say is I rode bikes for years with no self confidence.
>Since at least some of us, ride (or have ridden) to avoid thinking about
>our lack of self confidence, or the reason for it, it seems safe to say
>that your statement that it takes a lot of self confidence to ride a bike
>is as I said, bollocks.
Agreed - if not quite so vehemently.
However, common traits amongst motorcyclists are independence and
stubbornness (as clearly shown in this newsgroup <G>).
But an interesting thought is, does a lack of self-confidence make you more
liable to disaster on a bike?
I don't know, personally, but I'd be interested to hear other peoples'
thoughts.
NZMSC
>>You haven't been on advanced enough riding courses.
>>There's a skill called psychological control in riding. You use it:
>>(a) to control others around you.
>>(b) to control yourself.
>>It is arguably the hardest riding skill of all to learn .
Mark Abraham wrote
>It is arguably non existent.
>You may control yourself
>You may prepare yourself for all eventualities you can conceive
>You cannot control others around you
Where do you ride in the lane to control other drivers?
Where do you stop at the lights to control other drivers?
Where do you and do you not establish eye contact to control other drivers.
What do you wear to help control other drivers?
And that's just a small selection.
A soap and flannel will help you get the egg off your face, Mark.
Windy
<Roa...@usit.net> wrote:
>s...@windfalls.u-net.com (Windy) said:
>
>>On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:40:06 +0100,
>>Chateau...@btinternet.com (The Older
>>Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I had an E....
>>
>>I've still got one.
>
>Don't wear it out...
I'm thinking of getting a rebore.
--
Some Guy on a Bike
wrote:
>> You cannot control others around you
> I`ve got three kids - tell me about it :-0
I've got two ex-wives. Moreso.
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1990 Kawasaki Zephyr 550 (Daphne) is if I stop breathing."
============================================================================
Bill Pullen
Older Gentleman <Chateau...@btinternet.com> writes
>
>Yes, I'm pissed.
>
You really ought to lay off the 14% claret. Your alter ego is
not a nice person.
--
Bill Pullen
jmar...@my-deja.com
Veggie Dave <Postm...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> For some reason, Molly Fletcher <mo...@eepc-mf.bath.ac.uk> wrote the
> following drivel
> >In article <7qsmgq$6a1$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > jmar...@my-deja.com writes:
>
> >> So if you disagree, prove me otherwise. Or else, piss off!
> >
> >Prove you otherwise? Assuming you mean prove your hypothisis wrong I
> >suppose I could get into a phylisophical debate on the nature of
proof but
with
> >no self confidence. Indeed the fact I was riding bikes was related
to the
the
> >small hours of the morning is a great way to forget stuff that's
screwing
> >up your head - or if not forget, at least avoid thinking about it.
> >
about
> >our lack of self confidence, or the reason for it, it seems safe to
say
> >that your statement that it takes a lot of self confidence to ride a
bike
> >is as I said, bollocks.
> >
> >finally worked out the cause and did something about it. I do still
ride
> >bikes, though now it is for different reasons.
> >
>
> This reply Kinda makes you look like a complete fuckwit, doesn't it
> jmarcelo...
>
> Veggie Dave
No. Actually, Molly made a good point about her riding. Although I'm
not totally convinced that she had no self-confidence whatsoever in her
abilities to ride when she started riding. My main point is if your
confidence in your riding abilities is low, your riding abilities WILL
suffer and you become a danger to yourself and others.
Your response however has made YOU look like a complete idiot. Did you
make a positive contribution at all to this conversation? Nope. You
should change your name to "Dumbfuck Dave".
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
jmar...@my-deja.com
following vomitous bullshit:
> Have a look at the X-post - they're all yanks
>
> Veggie Dave
Still pissed off about loosing the colonies Dave? You're a sorry
excuse for a Brit. You need to take your veggie-eating wussy ass back
to the UK.Motorcycle newsgroup asswipe!
Jack
>On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 18:05:03 GMT, Jack
><Roa...@usit.net> wrote:
>
>>s...@windfalls.u-net.com (Windy) said:
>>
>>>On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:40:06 +0100,
>>>Chateau...@btinternet.com (The Older
>>>Gentleman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I had an E....
>>>
>>>I've still got one.
>>
>>Don't wear it out...
>
>I'm thinking of getting a rebore.
African or European?
Andy Woodward
>currently prodding a 24 year old to slow down. He recently purchased an R1.
>He rides 140 -160MPH in 45-55 mile speed zones and likes to "cut" and
>"move"(his words for lane switching). The fellow has no leathers, gloves or
>boots and us "older" guys are worried that he will injure himself...soon.
>Cheers,
>Sky King
>PS I didn't realize these posts were going to so many newsgroups. I
>thought I was replying to alt.motorcycle.sportbike in the US. It appears
>there is a bit of a "cultural" difference, concerning what is and isn't
>acceptable riding behavior.
<Checks headers>
Alt.squidbike.......
........Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh.
Andy Woodward
>Perhaps you need to re-think your concept of control while taking your
>own advice WRT eggs and soapy water.
>You have a tremendous amount of useful information about motorcycle
>safety *and* have the advantage of thinking about such things being
>your bread and butter. Nevertheless, folks that disagree with you are
>not necessarily wrong.
...unlesst hey disagree with me too.
Andy Woodward
>>There's a skill called psychological control in riding. You use it:
>>(a) to control others around you.
>>(b) to control yourself.
>>It is arguably the hardest riding skill of all to learn .
>It is arguably non existent.
>You may control yourself
>You may prepare yourself for all eventualities you can conceive
>You cannot control others around you
Au contraire. Cager psychology and how to control them with it is as valuable
as training your dog not to shit on the carpet and bite your nuts.
Andy Woodward
>Kiwis, Aussies, Serbs, French, German, Dutch, Jews, Palestinians, Chinese,
>etc. etc?
You missplet 'We have both Earthlings and Americans here'? That's a typo even
**I** couldnt acheive. I'm proud of you.
Andy Woodward
Me too.......
(OK, so I made my own IAM badge on Paintshop, but it looks authentic)
Molly Fletcher
jmar...@my-deja.com writes:
>> This reply Kinda makes you look like a complete fuckwit, doesn't it
>> jmarcelo...
>> Veggie Dave
>
> No. Actually, Molly made a good point about her riding. Although I'm
You really *don't* speak English do you?
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Melanie Rhianna Lewis
>For some reason Dumbfuck Dave <Postm...@127.0.0.1> wrote the
>following vomitous bullshit:
>> Have a look at the X-post - they're all yanks
>>
>> Veggie Dave
>
>
>Still pissed off about loosing the colonies Dave? You're a sorry
>excuse for a Brit. You need to take your veggie-eating wussy ass back
>to the UK.Motorcycle newsgroup asswipe!
Actually no we aren't. Best thing that could have happened when you
consider the drongos on Jerry Springer and the recent decision by the
Kansas State Education Board. As everyone knows the Universe was
sneezed from the nose of the Great Green Arkleseasure.
Melanie
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Melanie Rhianna Lewis
>In article <PkiohLAu...@bikehouse.demon.co.uk>,
> Veggie Dave <Postm...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>> This reply Kinda makes you look like a complete fuckwit, doesn't it
>> jmarcelo...
^^^^^^^^
>>
>> Veggie Dave
>
>No. Actually, Molly made a good point about her riding. Although I'm
>not totally convinced that she had no self-confidence whatsoever in her
>abilities to ride when she started riding. My main point is if your
>confidence in your riding abilities is low, your riding abilities WILL
>suffer and you become a danger to yourself and others.
>
>Your response however has made YOU look like a complete idiot. Did you
>make a positive contribution at all to this conversation? Nope. You
>should change your name to "Dumbfuck Dave".
Me thinks you got not just the wrong end of the stick but picked up a
totally different one all together.
Veggie, was referring to you!
I'd give up if I were you. The UK crowd stick together. On seconds
thoughts, don't give up. You're giving us some amusement when
otherwise we would have to work.
Snogfest Hosebeast
"Bill Crocker" <bcro...@home.com> wrote:
> Ride I-75, or I-696, here in lower Michigan... they'll honor your
death
> wish!
>
> Bill
Thanks, Bill.
The I'll just put the R1 in extra luggage, being in England.
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Kiwi.
Don't do surgery with a chainsaw unless you're dealing with zombies
Bastard Bear
Veggie Dave wrote:
>
> For some reason, Doc Gonz0 <Postm...@127.0.0.1> wrote the following
> drivel
> >Where the fuck are all these cunts coming from? I thought the school
> >holidays were over...
>
> Have a look at the X-post - they're all yanks
Urrghhh! Septics ...
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Bastard Bear
The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
> <jmar...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > For some reason Dumbfuck Dave <Postm...@127.0.0.1> wrote the
> > following vomitous bullshit:
> > > Have a look at the X-post - they're all yanks
> > >
> > > Veggie Dave
> >
> >
> > Still pissed off about loosing the colonies Dave? You're a sorry
> > excuse for a Brit. You need to take your veggie-eating wussy ass back
> > to the UK.Motorcycle newsgroup asswipe!
> >
> Er, that's where he is, isn't he?
No-one said they were bright, Neil.
Glad to see you using words of one syllable, though. Essential when
communicating with septics, I find ...
Bastard Bear
He's worse sober ... drones on *far* more.
At least when pissed he just wibbles and gibbers a bit.
Rick Damiani
>Au contraire. Cager psychology and how to control them with it is as valuable
>as training your dog not to shit on the carpet and bite your nuts.
...and, unfortunately, only works when the animal in question is a
cooperative one that has not been waiting patently far too long...
Andy Woodward
valuable >>as training your dog not to shit on the carpet and bite your nuts.
>...and, unfortunately, only works when the animal in question is a
>cooperative one that has not been waiting patently far too long...
And admittedly dogs are far more intelligent on average than cagers. Flatworms
are more intellignet on average than cagers. And bikers make cagers look like
geniuses.......
Windy
<Roa...@usit.net> wrote:
>s...@windfalls.u-net.com (Windy) said:
>
>>On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 18:05:03 GMT, Jack
>><Roa...@usit.net> wrote:
>>
>>>s...@windfalls.u-net.com (Windy) said:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:40:06 +0100,
>>>>Chateau...@btinternet.com (The Older
>>>>Gentleman) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I had an E....
>>>>
>>>>I've still got one.
>>>
>>>Don't wear it out...
>>
>>I'm thinking of getting a rebore.
>
>African or European?
A 306b at this point is difficult to swallow!
Windy
<joh...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Bill Pullen wrote:
>>
>> You really ought to lay off the 14% claret. Your alter ego is
>> not a nice person.
>
>He's worse sober ... drones on *far* more.
>
>At least when pissed he just wibbles and gibbers a bit.
And then seemingly falls asleep until the
following day so in some ways, the claret has its
uses.
dog
> You missplet 'We have both Earthlings and Americans here'? That's a typo even
> **I** couldnt acheive. I'm proud of you.
rty egttnig a slpelnig cehkcre.
dog
darsy
Did anyone else try ROT-13 on this?
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Richard Smith
<37d3baf9...@news.dircon.co.uk>...
> On 6 Sep 1999 11:56:44 GMT, d...@dog.net.uk (dog) wrote:
>
> >a...@aber.ac.uk wrt:
> >> You missplet 'We have both Earthlings and Americans here'? That's a
typo even
> >> **I** couldnt acheive. I'm proud of you.
> >
> >rty egttnig a slpelnig cehkcre.
>
> Did anyone else try ROT-13 on this?
Nope (see, lurking uk.rec.sheds isn't a waste of time after all).
Admittedly, I was reaching for it when I realised what it was.
--
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GSX550ES R100/7/RT
"I knew 'twas I; for many do call me fool."
Windy
da...@sticky.codfish.uk (darsy) wrote:
>On 6 Sep 1999 11:56:44 GMT, d...@dog.net.uk (dog) wrote:
>>
>>rty egttnig a slpelnig cehkcre.
>
>Did anyone else try ROT-13 on this?
Nope.
Saw it immediately.
You dozy bog-trotter.
Andy Woodward
even>>> **I** couldnt acheive. I'm proud of you.
>>
>Did anyone else try ROT-13 on this?
Why? WHat'#s wrong with it?
g
>
> On Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:00:51 GMT,
> da...@sticky.codfish.uk (darsy) wrote:
>
> >On 6 Sep 1999 11:56:44 GMT, d...@dog.net.uk (dog) wrote:
> >>
> >
> >Did anyone else try ROT-13 on this?
V qvqa'g xabj jung EBG-13 jnf hagvy gbqnl.
Vg'f fghcvq gubhtu, jung'f vg sbe? Frrzf gb freir ab hfrshy checbfr ng
nyy. Nalbar jub frrf vg jvyy fheryl vafgnagyl erpbtavfr vg.
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Andy Woodward
>V qvqa'g xabj jung EBG-13 jnf hagvy gbqnl.
>Vg'f fghcvq gubhtu, jung'f vg sbe? Frrzf gb freir ab hfrshy checbfr ng
>nyy. Nalbar jub frrf vg jvyy fheryl vafgnagyl erpbtavfr vg.
I thought it was Polish :(
darsy
wrote:
>On Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:00:51 GMT,
>da...@sticky.codfish.uk (darsy) wrote:
>
>>On 6 Sep 1999 11:56:44 GMT, d...@dog.net.uk (dog) wrote:
>>>
>>>rty egttnig a slpelnig cehkcre.
>>
>>Did anyone else try ROT-13 on this?
>
>Nope.
At the risk of doing a Murray - I didn't *really* try ROT-13ing it -
it was a joke - see?
>Saw it immediately.
You mean, immediately after you'd found your glasses, you geriatric
harridan (tm Bear '99)
>You dozy bog-trotter.
That'd be Badders - haven't seen him around here in ages...
Molly Fletcher
"Father Dale" <dl...@mindspring.com> writes:
>> track days: they don't teach you anything about road lore. Fuck kids -
>> they need a good fright in order to learn.
>>
>> And fuck you.
>>
>> Yes, I'm pissed.
>
> Oh, come on, Neil; tell us how you REALLY feel....
He's a Brit and therefore speaks English rather than American. Pissed
means he's consumed large quantities of alcohol.
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g <p@l.l> writes:
>> >Did anyone else try ROT-13 on this?
>
> V qvqa'g xabj jung EBG-13 jnf hagvy gbqnl.
>
> Vg'f fghcvq gubhtu, jung'f vg sbe? Frrzf gb freir ab hfrshy checbfr ng
> nyy. Nalbar jub frrf vg jvyy fheryl vafgnagyl erpbtavfr vg.
That's rather the point. It's mostly used for stuff like spoilers and
answers to questions/puzzles etc that you might want to choose not to
read.
tom
for glitter. In his defense though, he does tend to ride a lot faster than
50.
> Yup: the septics seem to regard anything over 90mph as utterly
> indefensible behaviour. You want to read some of the Gold Wing owners'
> ride-out tips: maintain speed at 50mph, somebody ride point, three bikes
> with dustpans & brushes following behind to sweep up all the glitter
> that's fallen off....
> Neil Murray
> Jawa Combo 750S S GT750 CB400F CD175
> BOF #30 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 WUSS#5 OETKBC
> http://www.btinternet.com/~Chateau.Murray/homepage2.html
Richard Smith
<MPG.123d87d4...@news.lmi.net>...
> In article <FHnAB...@bath.ac.uk>, ee...@eepc-mf.bath.ac.uk
> says...
> > In article <37D3C06E.3D6F7A07@l.l>,
> > g <p@l.l> writes:
> >
> > >> >Did anyone else try ROT-13 on this?
> > >
> > > V qvqa'g xabj jung EBG-13 jnf hagvy gbqnl.
> > >
> > > Vg'f fghcvq gubhtu, jung'f vg sbe? Frrzf gb freir ab hfrshy checbfr
ng
> > > nyy. Nalbar jub frrf vg jvyy fheryl vafgnagyl erpbtavfr vg.
> >
> > That's rather the point. It's mostly used for stuff like spoilers and
> > answers to questions/puzzles etc that you might want to choose not to
> > read.
> >
>
Start with Welsh, anagram it, ROT-13 it, then post it under the name of
Mark Abraham.
You know it makes sense.
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dog
> V qvqa'g xabj jung EBG-13 jnf hagvy gbqnl.
>
> Vg'f fghcvq gubhtu, jung'f vg sbe? Frrzf gb freir ab hfrshy checbfr ng
> nyy. Nalbar jub frrf vg jvyy fheryl vafgnagyl erpbtavfr vg.
yes, but it confuses bots and trawlers sent by the american goverment to spy
on us and curtail our first amendment[1].
dog
[1] apparently
Veggie Dave
>Still pissed off about loosing the colonies Dave? You're a sorry
>excuse for a Brit. You need to take your veggie-eating wussy ass back
>to the UK.Motorcycle newsgroup asswipe!
Ooh, sorry, didn't know you were a big macho biker. I feel soo scared.
Fuck off you thick cunt
Veggie Dave
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>
> He's a Brit and therefore speaks English rather than American. Pissed
> means he's consumed large quantities of alcohol.
It means the same thing in Canadian. We're not totally
Americanized.
Brent
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Sky King
The Older Gentleman wrote in message
<1dxq4bd.1vw...@host62-6-26-99.btinternet.com>...
>Sky King <etem...@gs.verio.net> wrote:
>
>> Neil,
>> Do we agree that the track is a better place to exceed the speed limit by
>> 50MPH than a public road? (No chastisement intended)
>Not necessarily. There are times when 140mph is perfectly safe...
I guess you Brits don't have any "road gators" or armadillos over there.
Recently in New Orleans, a rider was clocked at 140MPH, so say the police,
and it was a damn man hunt for the guy. It was even reported by the local
radio stations. I'm happy to report, the criminal remains at large.
Cheers,
Sky King
Nope, wasn't me
John Malpass
Chateau...@btinternet.com says...
> >
> > Also, consider in your response that I have the same problems with self
> > control as many others in the group. When I ride, I still feel like I'm 15
> > years old.
> Don't we all......
Bear always feels like a 15 year old...
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Carol Clements
wrote:
>I'm thinking of getting a rebore.
/old age mode
Aren't they the mints that are a minty bit better?
/old age mode
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