Needs lights and a tag...then I'd get one.
boring - I hoped it was Electra ...
257 kg = 565 pounds. Pretty impressive to me. I wouldn't care to
try it!
Yeah, before Pastrana there was what, zero people in the whole world
who could do it. Now a handful of our umpteen billion people on the
planet can pull it off on the most modern dirt bikes and this guy
makes it look like taking a ride to the ice cream store on a 600 lb
bike with fluids.
Alf could surely do better on his FZ. Maybe he'll try tonight. I bet
Bob would take the video for him.
Anyway, that is a trick ass bike. I'd love to know how they modded
that thing.
Well, I can't even do a back flip off a diving board...
But, damn, that makes be want the XR1200 even more. I see in my
mind's eye 1000s of miles of desert roads that bike would just eat up.
(Except for the too small fuel tank.)
Gee, I'll bet I could fit knobbies on a GT1000...
Money.
Yeah, 3.5 gallons ain't gonna take you far out west.
> Gee, I'll bet I could fit knobbies on a GT1000...
Those, the fork, and dirt fender really make that bike tits.
>On Dec 1, 6:08�pm, BryanUT <nestl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Dec 1, 12:59�pm, Tim <tomorrowerolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Dec 1, 10:39�am, AlF <spamgrinder.tryla...@ggmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > saddlebag wrote:
>> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqgwo_WdyRo&feature=player_embedded
>>
>> > > boring - I hoped it was Electra ...
>>
>> > 257 kg = 565 pounds. � Pretty impressive to me. �I wouldn't care to
>> > try it!
>>
>> Well, I can't even do a back flip off a diving board...
>>
>> But, damn, that makes be want the XR1200 even more. �I see in my
>> mind's eye 1000s of miles of desert roads that bike would just eat up.
>> (Except for the too small fuel tank.)
>
>Yeah, 3.5 gallons ain't gonna take you far out west.
I'd think it would take you pretty much the same distance as it would
in the east! <g>
damn, forgot to put smiley again! <but was it hard to get?>
Are you accidentally probing if Bob is still reading the news group ...
What that you wouldn't like to try to get it down to that weight? 8^)
Couldn't tell. No context. Seemed sincere. If not, so be it. Don't
really give a good goddamn, to be honest.
yeah - it was a sincere joke :-). but Electra doing back flip ...
those are cool too:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/Sharkey71/Wingwheelie.jpg
> yeah - it was a sincere joke :-). but Electra doing back flip ...
>
> those are cool too:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/Sharkey71/Wingwheelie.jpg
> http://gallery.okvalks.com/albums/robbers08-1/PICT9973.jpg
Obviously photo shopped fakes. It is common physics knowledge
that you cannot do a wheelie on a bike with a shaft drive.
Bruce
Bruce, please check your headers. That is only common knowledge on
reeky, not in AMS. Let's try not to confuse people any more than they
already are!
Unless you take a northern hemisphere shaftie into the southern
hemisphere, or vice versa. Then they wheelie uncontrollably.
And let's not get into what happens to countersteering when you switch
hemispheres in a shaftie.
--
"Outback" Jon - KC2BNE
outba...@g.no.sp.am.mail.com
http://folding.stanford.edu - got folding? Team 32
2006 ZG1000A Concours "Blueline" COG# 7385 CDA# 0157
Right - all those tragic fatal accidents caused by riders who
thoughtlessly crossed the equator on a shaft-drive bike...
'Tis a pity, it really is.
Bob M.
That's odd: I just bought a new shaftie yesterday, and discovered on
my way home that it *will* wheelie.
Do you suppose my driveshaft is turning in the wrong direction?
Do tell, what didja get?
If his shaftie is turning the wrong way, it must be British.
Honda (natch) NT700VA.
http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/honda/2010-honda-nt700v-ar79405.html
The dealer called and urged me to take it out for an extended test
ride Monday morning as soon as they got it out of the crate, and I
took him up on it and sold myself.
Great ergos and seat (it's an all-day sort of bike), good handing,
gets close to 50 mpg on the freeway at circa 80 mph, good weather
protection without much turbulance, reasonably good looks, lightweight
for a very comfortable sport-touring machine (circa 565 lbs), good
brakes (I got the ABS package), little nose-dive, built-in bags of
reasonable capacity, *good* mirrors, and the usual Honda fit and
finish.
Only downsides are that I'd like to have about 15 more horses, six
speeds in the tranny instead of five, and the bike has the *dumbest*
wide-open-acceleration exhaust note I've ever heard: it sounds like a
scooter on steroids.
On the other hand, the guys who were telling me that it's "boring"
either hadn't ridden one or think that pure horsepower translates to
"exciting". It gets out of it's way with no problems, doing 0 to 60 in
about 4 seconds, the quarter at close to 100 mph, and tops out at
circa 120, all the while being perfectly comfortable and well-
mannered.
Two things: The VIN number revals that it's only the 48th one of it's
kind in the country (although our local Honda shop has sold *3* since
Monday), and the dash readout has a fun farkle: it tells you exactly
what milage you're getting at any given moment and will also tell you
what your average milage was over an extended period. Not really
needed, but it's fun to play with.
~Pete
Spanish, actually.
Bultaco is still in business? And they make road bikes? Sweet!
> Honda (natch) NT700VA.
> Only downsides are that I'd like to have about 15 more horses, six
> speeds in the tranny instead of five, and the bike has the *dumbest*
> wide-open-acceleration exhaust note I've ever heard: it sounds like a
> scooter on steroids.
>
> On the other hand, the guys who were telling me that it's "boring"
> either hadn't ridden one or think that pure horsepower translates to
> "exciting". It gets out of it's way with no problems, doing 0 to 60 in
> about 4 seconds, the quarter at close to 100 mph, and tops out at
> circa 120, all the while being perfectly comfortable and well-
> mannered.
If you enjoy riding it, it's comfy, and it does what you want, who cares
what the naysayers think?
Enjoy your Dullsville, I say.
Those kind of bikes do get a following. A friend at work bought my
FILs Pacific Coast (1994). It now has ~60k miles and he tells me all
the time about how he runs into people who either own one or want to
buy his.
So far the only thing wrong with it was that an aftermarket trunk
bracket snapped. I don't even think he's changed the battery in about
5 years and doesn't even bother winterizing the thing.
No such luck: Honda just owns a factory in Spain.
Tell us, Mark: did you really think that first saying something
reassuring meant that the following insult wasn't really an insult?
Or are you just an asshole?
> Only downsides are that I'd like to have about 15 more horses, six
> speeds in the tranny instead of five, and the bike has the *dumbest*
> wide-open-acceleration exhaust note I've ever heard: it sounds like a
> scooter on steroids.
There's a reason they call it the Dullville.
> ...the dash readout has a fun farkle: it tells you exactly
> what milage you're getting at any given moment and will also tell you
> what your average milage was over an extended period. Not really
> needed, but it's fun to play with.
1. Congrats on the new bike (edited the subject to match), and
2. Wish I had the above mentioned farkle on *all* my vehicles, 2-
wheeled and four.
HA! nice diversionary ploy...but everybody knows countersteering is a
myth.
Are those my only two choices? Man, you have a thin skin. Actually
I think that's a fine bike. Not _exactly_ my cup of tea, but
performance wise, probably not a lot different than my SV650 which
I really liked, and could have seen myself treating as a sport
tourer if it had a fairing and bags like the "dullsville".
Please don't take it personally that I can enjoy poking fun at your
choice of bike without harboring even the slightest enmity toward you,
or in fact the bike itself. If you think that means I am a devious,
lying son of a bitch/asshole/generally bad person, by all means knock
yourself out. I really meant it when I said I wanted you to enjoy
your new bike.
So right about now I expect you to respond by telling me that yes,
indeed, I am an asshole, but I can save you the trouble and agree
that you're 100% right about that, so now we can all get back to our
mutual flame-fest.
There are at least two such reasons:
(A) "They've" never actually ridden one.
(B) "They're" just playing at being assholes, much like the "Harley's
aren't worth shit" crowd or the "I need a 200 HP race-rep bike so I
can say 'mine's bigger than yours' " types.
The most fun bike I've ever ridden, dollar-for-dollar and pound-for-
pound- was my wife's Kawasaki Ninja 250. It forced you to really learn
how to ride smoothly, quickly, and cleanly; because there was simply
no power there to regain any speed you'd lost through bad cornering
technique. So you learned to choose exactly the right gear before you
entered a turn, you learned to perfectly match your revs on downshifts
so as not to lose any speed and/or upset the bike, you learned to
brake no more than was absolutely necessary before turning in, you
learned to trail-brake in decreasing-radius corners, you learned to
choose your cornering lines with an eye towards maintaining every
single MPH possible throughout the turn, and you know what else I
learned?
I learned that every single thing I'd picked up on that little, old-
fashioned, underpowered tinker-toy of a bike stayed with me when I
climbed back onto my VFR at track days and pulled out the cork. I got
not just faster -although I did get faster- but I got a bunch smoother
as well, and could run laps at my old best speed while feeling
completely relaxed.
So kindly spare us the "Dullsville" crap.
Good riders make the bike. And can have fun on -and learn something
from- any of them.
Poor riders think the bike makes them. (And usually blame their tools
when it fails to do so.)
P.S. Double-entendres are fun.
Ta. It's a very cush ride compared to my VFR, but still leans *way*
over without scraping parts.
Sort of a "stealth" sportbike.
> 2. Wish I had the above mentioned farkle on *all* my vehicles, 2-
> wheeled and four.
Ya know, it wouldn't be all that hard for factories to add that
feature, as it's just reporting what the computerized fuel injection
system already knows: how much fuel is going into the intake ports at
any given moment.
Sorry. That's a mythconception.
>
>> 2. Wish I had the above mentioned farkle on *all* my vehicles, 2-
>> wheeled and four.
>
>Ya know, it wouldn't be all that hard for factories to add that
>feature, as it's just reporting what the computerized fuel injection
>system already knows: how much fuel is going into the intake ports at
>any given moment.
My 85 XJ6 has the same thing built into its driver info computer. I
thought it was pretty high tech for the vintage. Watching how the fuel
consumption changes with throttle inputs is very enlightening.
Congrats on the new bike. It looks like a winner.
Cute. First you insult somebody, and then when they respond in kind
you accuse them of having a thin skin.
Since you obviously don't understand the concept, here's how manners
work: When you're polite to someone they will almost certainly be
polite to you. When you joke with someone, they will usually joke with
you in return. And when you intentionally type an insult while posting
to Usenet the odds are practically 100% that you will get a reply in
kind, and quite possibly have the ante upped as well.
If you keep these simple facts in mind your life will become much
easier, and you'll no longer have to rationalize reasons for why your
behavior shouldn't have provoked the response that it did.
It is indeed. I look forward to seeing how many mpg I can eke out when
I'm really trying to scrimp, how *few* I'll get when I'm really
cranking it on in the twisties, and the difference between the two.
> Congrats on the new bike. It looks like a winner.
Thanx. So far, so good.
~Pete
They never mentioned that in any of the physics classes I took.
> They never mentioned that in any of the physics classes I took.
(A) They only get to that sort of thing in the *very* advanced physics
classes where they deal with subjects such as string (and chain)
theory, and besides: (B) how many of your physics teachers actually
rode shafties?
QED
Repond in kind? You seem a mite confused when you say that.
No, I didn't insult *you*, I called *your bike* a "dullsville". I didn't
originate the term, and to be honest, *as I said before* I don't even
agree with it. It was a jab, yes, but not mean spirited. It seems
that by explaining it, it's lost all humor, if it ever had any, and I
suspect you will now claim I'm backpedaling. Hey, like I said in my
initial response to you calling me an asshole, knock yourself out.
I admit I am an asshole. But I repeat- I don't dislike you (but I
could be convinced to change that) and I have no animosity toward you
or your bike. If you're unable to grasp that, and it's starting to look
that way, I may already be wasting my time typing these words.
> Since you obviously don't understand the concept,
Sure I do. I also understand banter- something you obviously
don't.
> here's how manners
> work: When you're polite to someone they will almost certainly be
> polite to you. When you joke with someone, they will usually joke with
> you in return. And when you intentionally type an insult while posting
> to Usenet the odds are practically 100% that you will get a reply in
> kind, and quite possibly have the ante upped as well.
Bring it on!
> If you keep these simple facts in mind your life will become much
> easier, and you'll no longer have to rationalize reasons for why your
> behavior shouldn't have provoked the response that it did.
Who's rationalizing? I merely pointed out that you lobbed your
rattle and delivered a genuine insult to me, in response to a
harmless quip about your new bike. Hey ho. I suspect if I
jokingly called Tim or Don or Bob Mann's bikes 'hardleys', they
might say 'fuck you' but with a smile on their face. You, otoh,
apparently have invested so much of your own ego in your choice
of bike that you accused me of insulting *you* because I called
*your bike* an uncomplimentary name.
Didn't attend reeky u; didja?
<snip preachy idiocy>
Actually, in reviews I've seen, it was labeled the Dullville due to it's
lack of character, more than anything. As has been the case with a lot
of recent Hondas, the bikes lack "personality". Sure, they work, do
what they are expected to do, and are decent motorcycles, but they lack
anything that separate them from the pack.
whine whine whine...it's dullsville. So fracking WHAT? That what MCN
and several other rags and riders call the damned thing...well that
and "competant but boring"
WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK? sheesh....you thin skinned primadonna's are
starting to wear.
Well, that's because the preemminent school of physics (ACME U.) only
accepts the finest students....you don't just have to have good
grades, you have to demonstrat and prove your knowledge of physics is
of an elevated status that they MIGHT be able to teach you something.
AH, good old ACME U. <sniff> I miss that place....especially since
they had a restraining order put on all the alumni.
Now now...next thing you know Krusty'll be offering the poor kid some
candy. Anyways everybody knows Reeky is just the prep-school for ACME
U. <soto voc> was it you that hid the rocket skates under the deans
desk?
No that's the prophylactic you use to prevent myths from becoming
reality.
True. Years ago, all my bikes had "character". This one required that I
open the petcocks, prime both carbs til wet, close the choke (strangler)
1/3, kick it through thrice, then turn on the ignition and kick. But that
assumes it had sat all night. Otherwise the sequence was a tad different and
if I didn't get it right 'kick' became 'kick and kick and ....'. Another
may require no choke whilst another might need full choke but no priming.
Yup, they had character and distinct personalities. My buddy's KS601 Zundapp
had tons of character.
Today I can turn the key to on and hit the starter and expect the computer
to take care of the rest - and they are all pretty much alike. Convenient
but somehow we've lost something. OTOH we've gained too. Consider how many
dudes would not be riding if bikes still had 'character'.
> Ya know, it wouldn't be all that hard for factories to add that
> feature, as it's just reporting what the computerized fuel injection
> system already knows: how much fuel is going into the intake ports at
> any given moment.
Right. I bet the electronics only cost a few quid (or bucks).
Cars have had 'em for decades. My Triumph is the first bike I've ever
owned with such a gizmo fitted.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
> On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:20:55 -0800 (PST), Twibil <noway...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >> 2. Wish I had the above mentioned farkle on *all* my vehicles, 2-
> >> wheeled and four.
> >
> >Ya know, it wouldn't be all that hard for factories to add that
> >feature, as it's just reporting what the computerized fuel injection
> >system already knows: how much fuel is going into the intake ports at
> >any given moment.
>
> My 85 XJ6 has the same thing built into its driver info computer. I
> thought it was pretty high tech for the vintage.
It's about as early as they get, I think, though some abomination called
the Talbot Horizon had an on-board computer in the early 1980s. Not sure
if that had a fuel meter.
> Watching how the fuel
> consumption changes with throttle inputs is very enlightening.
>
Schlurp. I could get my old Saab down to single figures without even
trying hard.
> AH, good old ACME U. <sniff> I miss that place....especially since
> they had a restraining order put on all the alumni.
Oh, they told you it was on *all* the alumni? How disingenuous of
them!
Fuck off, pussylips.
(Happy now that we're down to your level?)
The way I understood it, it's the myths themselves that sometimes
become pregnant.
Seldom happens to a mythter.
Uh, no. (You can tell because *I'm* not the one who's rationalizing.)
> No, I didn't insult *you*, I called *your bike* a "dullsville".
Rhetorical question here: are you *really* that fucking stupid?
If so, and you truly believe that what you said wasn't a personal
insult, here's a simple test you can use to discover the truth:
(A) Go to the nearest biker bar where 1%ers hang out. (Hell's Angels,
Vagos, practically any of 'em will do.)
(B) Wait until everyone is good and drunk.
(C) Pick a random biker and call his Harley a degrading name.
One thing: You probably don't want to try this unless you've got a
paid-up health insurance package and heal quickly.
...and if one of these drunk biker 1%ers called your bike a 'dullsville'
would you still be spitting the dummy? (maybe the description is a bit
too close to reality and thats what hurts?) ....would you even have
ridden to their bar and parked among their bikes?
Humour me here and take your best degrading shot at my bike and I'll
honestly see if it hurts me like it hurt you.....it's a KTM 950
SuperMoto......fill your boots.
> Humour me here and take your best degrading shot at my bike and I'll
> honestly see if it hurts me like it hurt you.....it's a KTM 950
> SuperMoto......
You ride a Katydid StuporSloMotion and you have the brass to call
someone else's bike DULL???
Well that takes gall.
<sob!>
>> No, I didn't insult *you*, I called *your bike* a "dullsville".
>
> Rhetorical question here: are you *really* that fucking stupid?
No, I am not stupid. For example, one of the things I know well
is the difference between banter on a newsgroup, and walking up
to a stranger and insulting them face to face. You seem to be a
little unclear on the concept, though.
BTW, talking about intelligence or the lack of it- have we reached
the point where you bring up your Stanford-Binet score? I forget.
That always seems to conclusively demonstrate how smart you are,
and of course would prove how stupid I am compared to you, and
neatly puts an end to the argument.
LOL....you sure have the 'rules' sorted....predicable but true. :)
> Humour me here and take your best degrading shot at my bike and I'll
> honestly see if it hurts me like it hurt you.....it's a KTM 950
> SuperMoto......fill your boots.
Gay Man's Multistrada.
Hah! I fart (a tight sphintered hetro one!) in the general direction of
Multistrada's....if one does get past, I'll be riding by as it stops to
fill it's inadequate petrol tank! :)
(Still no pain but a couple of laughs?)
So what? Are you comparing yourself to a drunken neanderthal? Why so
testy lately? You seem to repeat the "your stupid and insulting" a
lot lately. If shootin the shit makes you so angry these days maybe
you should take a break.
>don (Calgary) <hd....@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:20:55 -0800 (PST), Twibil <noway...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> 2. Wish I had the above mentioned farkle on *all* my vehicles, 2-
>> >> wheeled and four.
>> >
>> >Ya know, it wouldn't be all that hard for factories to add that
>> >feature, as it's just reporting what the computerized fuel injection
>> >system already knows: how much fuel is going into the intake ports at
>> >any given moment.
>>
>> My 85 XJ6 has the same thing built into its driver info computer. I
>> thought it was pretty high tech for the vintage.
>
>It's about as early as they get, I think, though some abomination called
>the Talbot Horizon had an on-board computer in the early 1980s. Not sure
>if that had a fuel meter.
The Series III Jaguars are what some refer to as the last of the
classic Jaguars. I think they were produced from 79 to 86. Although I
stand to be corrected my recollection is the computer was added in 83
or 84. It's been a while since I read the history of the line.
>> Watching how the fuel
>> consumption changes with throttle inputs is very enlightening.
>>
>Schlurp. I could get my old Saab down to single figures without even
>trying hard.
My XJ6 is surprisingly fuel efficient, for a large heavy auto. On the
highway at legal speeds I can get 28 mpg. If I take it up a notch or
two, I can easily bring that down 16 mpg. It does boil down to how you
drive.
An insult is an insult no matter to *whom* you address it, you poor
boob. (See?)
The fact that Albert Einstein probably wouldn't have broken your jaw
if you called him a Kike doesn't mean it wasn't insulting to him.
> If shootin the shit makes you so angry these days maybe
> you should take a break.
Yeah, you're *exactly* the guy who I'd choose to take advise from,
Saddle.
Right after Krusty, Hen3ry, and Bob Nixon.
>
> Yeah, you're *exactly* the guy who I'd choose to take advise from,
> Saddle.
>
> Right after Krusty, Hen3ry, and Bob Nixon.
wow - I did not make the list ...
Depends on the myth and what particular axe to grind the teller has
against said myther. ;^)
OH it is...I went to the hearing in disguise. It's DEFINATELY on all
graduating alumni. Non-graduates/drop outs/never showed up for the
first semester types can go there, people like you for instance! ;^)
Now if you'll excuse me I've some adjustments to make to my cold
fusion powered rocket skates. ;^)
Fine, then remain a bitter little man. No sweat off my back.
I missed where I moved down to the level of pointless vulgarity. That
was you that brought it to that level. I merely gave a reasoned
response to why your bike has been labeled "Dullsville".
Honda set themselves, and you, up for it by calling the bike the
"Deauville" to begin with.
--
"Outback" Jon - KC2BNE
outba...@g.no.sp.am.mail.com
http://folding.stanford.edu - got folding? Team 32
2006 ZG1000A Concours "Blueline" COG# 7385 CDA# 0157
If your personality is that closely tied to your motorcycle, you need to
take a break from more than newsgroups.
maybe he got pissed off because counted on someone calling it dollsville ;-)
I'm not going to badmouth it Alf cause it's the only Harley actually
like the looks of-:)
Bob..