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โอม มณี ปัทเม หุม

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:13:14 PM11/23/09
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Where did Micro$oft hide the Windows clipboard in
Windows XP?

Is there still some way in XP to do a screen capture that can be
manipulated as a bit map?

Tim

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:26:58 PM11/23/09
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Pretty simple Krusty, and already answered for you by someone else,
over in reeky.

<shift>PrintScrn
START->All Programs->Accessories->Paint
edit->paste
file->save as->MyBitMapFileThatCanBeManipulated.bmp

Just did this in Windows XP. It works.

BryanUT

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:38:58 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 4:26 pm, Tim <tomorrowerolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:

XP? Krusty is such a Luddite [1]. Vista has been out how long? And
Windows 7 is just released. That is only 2 generations behind...

Oh wait, nevermind, this is Krusty.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+xp+screen+capture+save+as+bmp

[1] Lord help me, but to be fair M$ continually fucks with the menus
and causes much grief on supporting the end user. Unix maybe obtuse
and cryptic but by God it is consistent over time [2].

[2] Almost, until it bites you hard in the ass.

โอม มณี ปัทเม หุม

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:34:11 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 3:26 pm, Tim <tomorrowerolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Pretty simple Krusty, and already answered for you by someone else,
> over in reeky.

Unfortunately, the instructions were too vague.


>
> <shift>PrintScrn
> START->All Programs->Accessories->Paint
>      edit->paste
>      file->save as->MyBitMapFileThatCanBeManipulated.bmp

Thanks for the information.

I thought that I had to press ALT or CRTL to get PrtScrn to capture
the Window.

On my old computer with Windows 95, I could actually get to the
clipboard and see what I had captured.

โอม มณี ปัทเม หุม

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:49:12 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 4:38 pm, BryanUT <nestl...@comcast.net> wrote:

> XP?   Krusty is such a Luddite [1].  Vista has been out how long?  And
> Windows 7 is just released.  That is only 2 generations behind...

Hey, my first computer, with Windows 95 was all I ever needed for TEN
YEARS, but it died on me two years ago.

I bought a new machine with Vista but I hated having to keep arguing
with the computer over "Do you really want to do this?", so I got rid
of that box and bought this XP machine.


>
> Oh wait, nevermind, this is Krusty.

Is your compassion module broken, or what? When you asked a valid
question about motorcycles and I knew the answer, I used to go to
great lengths to share my information.

But I ask a simple question about an unfamiliar operating system and
what do I get from you?

"Oh wait, nevermind, this is Krusty."

I guess there's no personal profit for you in helping somebody that
you can't suck up to, you sychophant...

Tim M.

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:57:44 PM11/23/09
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You can in Windows XP, too:

Click the "Start" menu button and open "My Computer"
Open your C: drive.
Double-click to open the Windows folder.
Double-click to open the System32 folder.
Scroll down until you see a file named Clipbrd.
Drag and drop the Clipbrd file onto your Start button; that drops a
shortcut to the Clipbook Viewer onto your Start menu. When you open
your Start menu, the Clipbrd program's icon will appear near the top.
If you prefer to have a shortcut to that file on your Desktop, right-
click the Clipbrd file, choose SendTo, and choose Desktop (Create
Shortcut).


AlF

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:55:51 PM11/23/09
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CTRL-ALT-DEL should work too

โอม มณี ปัทเม หุม

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:14:20 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 6:57 pm, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:


> Double-click to open the System32 folder.
> Scroll down until you see a file named Clipbrd.

Thanks again.

No wonder I couldn't find the clipboard using the search program. Micro
$ofthead
engineers had to mess with the *spelling* of the apllication name...

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:17:47 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 7:55 pm, AlF <spamgrinder.tryla...@ggmail.com> wrote:

> CTRL-ALT-DEL should work too

That was so trollishly gaymer!

Back in the days when I was addicted to massive multiplayer online
games, the
trolls would tell people that certain key combinations were "legal
cheats", and they would try to get naive newbies to do silly things
like formatting their hard disks.

Andrew

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:49:16 AM11/24/09
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It's a holdover fom the 8.3 filename days.

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AlF

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:47:42 PM11/24/09
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โอม มณี ปัทเม หุม wrote:
that was a joke. in case of windows XP is harmless. Tim gave you a fish
but show you the fishing pole:

go to bing.com

or here:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=windows+xp+clipboard+viewer&go=&form=QBLH&qs=n

to get this:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/tips/clipbook.mspx

AlF

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:48:11 PM11/24/09
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that is not MS invention - comes from old dark times of CP-M yet - does
not it?

Tim

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:06:42 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 7:38 pm, BryanUT <nestl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 4:26 pm, Tim <tomorrowerolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 6:13 pm, âÍÁ Á³Õ »Ñ·àÁ ËØÁ <macmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Where did Micro$oft hide the Windows clipboard in
> > > Windows XP?
>
> > > Is there still some way in XP to do a screen capture that can be
> > > manipulated as a bit map?
>
> > Pretty simple Krusty, and already answered for you by someone else,
> > over in reeky.
>
> > <shift>PrintScrn
> > START->All Programs->Accessories->Paint
> >      edit->paste
> >      file->save as->MyBitMapFileThatCanBeManipulated.bmp
>
> > Just did this in Windows XP.  It works.
>
> XP?   Krusty is such a Luddite [1].  Vista has been out how long?  And
> Windows 7 is just released.  That is only 2 generations behind...
>
> Oh wait, nevermind, this is Krusty.

Well, I use Windows XP Pro in both of my company computers, and in my
family computer, and my current customer's networked computers use
Windows XP Pro. I have heard nothing but bad things about Vista, and
having used it for a day on my mom's computer, I certainly don't want
to switch to it id I can avoid it.

I don't particularly want to be a test guinea pig for Windows 7; but
it's time for a new company laptop, so maybe I'll get that and run in
parallel with the XP Pro machine for a couple of quarters and see what
I think.

Have you used Windows 7? Is there a home and an office (or "Pro")
version of it? I haven't even seen any early returns or reviews on
it. Didn't it just come out in the last month or two?

Tim

Andrew

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:22:53 PM11/24/09
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Make sure when you buy that new machine it is
Capable of hardware virtualization. Then you won't need to run both
machines side x side. Win7 has an XP vm you can download to run legacy
stuff, you can even run some apps virtualized outside of the XP vm.

BryanUT

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:28:46 PM11/24/09
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> Tim- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

All our PCs at work are still XP, except the laptops, they run Vista.

I run Vista at home.

And Andrew's comment about virtualization is spot on. Virtual
Machines are sweet, we run several virtual Windows servers and are
moving many of Sun servers to virtual machines. It makes much
efficient use of hardware (not to mention energy savings).

Tim M.

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Nov 24, 2009, 5:51:01 PM11/24/09
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Interesting. I used to work in IBM's VM/CMS ..... about 20 years or
so ago. Good to see that MS is starting to catch up with where IBM
was, back then..... ;-)

Andrew

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:36:13 PM11/24/09
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You have to get Win7 pro or Ultimate to get the free VM of XP.

AlF

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:51:03 PM11/24/09
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Tim M. wrote:
>
> Interesting. I used to work in IBM's VM/CMS ..... about 20 years or
> so ago. Good to see that MS is starting to catch up with where IBM
> was, back then..... ;-)


could you run VM within VM on that OS?

BryanUT

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:38:50 PM11/24/09
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VM/CMS

IBM did hardware vitualization decades ago, well before VMWare. In
the tech world IBM is a rockstar, their contributions and research are
undeniable.

AlF

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:33:03 PM11/24/09
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I good few years ago before that become mainstream they were supporting
running virtual Linux on their systems - I remember that.

Ron Gibson

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:50:50 PM12/4/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:06:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
<tomorrowe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Have you used Windows 7? Is there a home and an office (or "Pro")
>version of it? I haven't even seen any early returns or reviews on
>it. Didn't it just come out in the last month or two?

The first BETA was damn nice - A return to XP style and all of the
VISTA non-sense gone.

What I really liked about it is that I have a really old SBLive sound
card that getting the right drivers can be a real PITA.

That BETA happily installed and used W98 drivers for the old card. One
other old device that needed a driver installed went the same way.

Then I got the final release (RC) and it wasn't quite as nimble and
versatile, but if forced to chose between Vista and W7 - No contest,
IMO - I'd go with W7 *at this point*.

--
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Replace borg with com
"Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


Ron Gibson

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:03:54 PM12/4/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:38:50 -0800 (PST), BryanUT
<nest...@comcast.net> wrote:

>IBM did hardware vitualization decades ago, well before VMWare. In
>the tech world IBM is a rockstar, their contributions and research are
>undeniable.

Plus contrary to what is commonly thought they do far more business
that M$

However, they can not market and support a desktop OS to save their
lives. Then again they make too much money on big systems to worry
about that.

Back in circa 1993 OS/2 was years ahead of anything else. Linux was
still in it's infancy and M$ current OS was Win 3.1/DOS.

That was no contest. On the downside the documentation, keeping with
IBM's long tradition, was like reading Greek.

I never will forget doing a FORTRAN program in college. When something
bombed back then the printer spit out pages (what is that wide stuff
Form 160? I know the normal width printouts were called Form 80).

Anyway I was directed to the manuals for the IBM 360 to diagnose the
error codes.

The "manuals were set up in binders all interconnected on a long rod.
It was 10 freaking feet long :(

I had to wade through 10 feet of migraine producing material.

Tim M.

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Dec 4, 2009, 6:05:19 PM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 3:50 pm, Ron Gibson <rsgib...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:06:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
>
> <tomorrowerolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Have you used Windows 7?  Is there a home and an office (or "Pro")
> >version of it?   I haven't even seen any early returns or reviews on
> >it.  Didn't it just come out in the last month or two?
>
> The first BETA was damn nice - A return to XP style and all of the
> VISTA non-sense gone.
>
> What I really liked about it is that I have a really old SBLive sound
> card that getting the right drivers can be a real PITA.
>
> That BETA happily installed and used W98 drivers for the old card. One
> other old device that needed a driver installed went the same way.
>
> Then I got the final release (RC) and it wasn't quite as nimble and
> versatile, but if forced to chose between Vista and W7 - No contest,
> IMO - I'd go with W7 *at this point*.

Thanks for the critique. Do you recall (or did you use) XP (and I'm
talking XP-Pro, not home) long enough and extensively enough that you
could have made the same choice between XP-Pro and W7 as you did W7
and Vista? And if so, do you mind saying what choice you think you
would have made?

Andrew

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Dec 7, 2009, 3:20:29 PM12/7/09
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"Tim M." <tomorrowat...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:026c868e-7928-48bb...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

Tim you seem to be missing the point about XP v Win7. It's not just the new
desktop windows manager.
Win7 is where you should be going not sticking on XP.
There are many design improvements Win7.
Address space layout randomization which can preclude certain types of hacks
at specific address spaces.
Better memory management.
More driver stabilization and Tons more enhancements.
If you want the XP look and feel there are ways to install other windows
managers and all you have to do is search for Windows7 classic start menu.


--
Andrew
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AlF

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Dec 7, 2009, 11:06:37 PM12/7/09
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Andrew wrote:
>
>>> The first BETA was damn nice - A return to XP style and all of the
>>> VISTA non-sense gone.
>>>

I have never been an Widows fan although I always admired their
marketing success and dominance on the market, especially since this is
USA company.

While Vista was quite unsuccessful attempt, 7 seems to quite nicely
wrapped box. They build it around http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinWin
which was major overhaul of the win32. I have recently acquired windows
7 box and all works very nice without the unpleasant Vista aftertaste.

It all looks quite promising along the new bing search engine (their 3d
maps really rule BTW).

Andy

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