Friends and Family
Mrs. Pepper
Such as a wedding or a death in the family. Then you all get together and
say how its sad that things like this (as in the death part) is what brings
families/friends back together. So you will exchange emails, phone numbers,
etc. and make notes to get together more often..........then you never do.
I know everyone gets involved in their daily lives all over again. But why
do we do this? Why is it so hard for us all to take time out and
visit/contact old friends and family? Are our lives that busy?
Did ya ever notice that you may have a friend, say your best friend, who
doesnt live far from you, but you only speak via email or telephone? When
one could be hopping in the car and heading over to the others for some face
to face chat. I myself do this often. My one girlfriend and I never see
each other. Yet, we live very close. Whats up with this? LOL.
--
Lisa -
Don't you think its sad to know that life is more than who we are?
Flee
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quick forms of communication that we sometimes forget how to relate face to
face or we don't think there is a reason to, the electronic means are just
more "convenient." I have been working in the last few months to eliminate
this problem. It's nice sitting on the steps chatting with other mommies as
our kids play together. Let's bring back to old fashioned front purch, and
buy a couple of rocking chairs!
Cindi
"I love spending evenings on the porch, except for the darn mosquitos"
Margie
> our kids play together. Let's bring back to old fashioned front purch, and
> buy a couple of rocking chairs!
>
> Cindi
> "I love spending evenings on the porch, except for the darn mosquitos"
You have other mommies you can sit on the porch with? Waaa....I'm
definitely in the wrong neighborhood. We have a swing on our back porch and
a citrus candle, come on over!
Margie
>
>
>
Margie
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Actually Lisa I have thought about this a lot. I really think it's the
changing times. In the old days (?) a lot of mothers stayed home and your
neighbors were your friends, close proximity allowed daily visits....<sigh>
When I worked full time most of my friends were coworkers, didn't matter
where they lived because there was daily and sometimes after work get
togethers before the drive home.
From my point of view, people have moved further and further away and unless
you move with them there that's distance of miles and toll calls. Most of
my sahm friends live a hour away and have their kids involved in so many
activities that it's become hard to have a simple get together. Everything
has to be planned and scheduled. I miss those days of just dropping
in.....don't you?
Margie
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
hmmmm... Know what you're talking about, but don't do it as much any
more. My friend down the road and I IM when we're both online IM'ing
our husbands (who both work in the computer division of an old, old
company in town). But our kids are constantly back-n-forth between our
houses and we visit each other quite often.
I *do* need to get down to Deanna's again one of these days, though.
--
Kitten
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I'm a sinner, I'm a saint; I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm you dream; I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way
-
- - Meredith Brooks
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
There's a place or two for sale in our neighborhood. You're welcome to
join DH and me in the mornings for a cup of coffee as we watch the
hummingbirds and listen to the cardinals, the doves, and new this
morning - the cactus wren.
Flee
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luck in location. It is apartment next to the playground with the the woods
behind us. immediately below our apartment is a couple with a 9 yo and a 7
yo, next to them the couple has a 3 yo and a 7 mo. All SAHM like me, and it
is just wonderful. We can swap babysitting, have a great morning chat every
day, and know that our kids are safe no matter which apartment they are
occupying at the moment. I am indeed very fortunate.
Cindi
Mrs. Pepper
--
Lisa -
Don't you think its sad to know that life is more than who we are?
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Yes! I really do! My girlfriend and I are always saying..."We really need
to get together more often." Yet......we dont.
I get so excited if there is a knock on my door. Visitor? Let me
see....................Oh............Only the Schwans man. LOL.
Lisa -
Mrs. Pepper
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Right there is probably one very good reason.
Lisa
Margie
and
> > quick forms of communication
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> Right there is probably one very good reason.
>
> Lisa
Actually I'm glad for the internet. It allows me to keep in contact with
people that I might otherwise lose track of....really. My SIL and I email
each other back and forth and rarely pick up the phone because of the
expense. My best friend and I do both despite the $. Then there's the
other friends who find it hard to even pick up the phone....this way they
email when they can, no pressure.
Margie <--would prefer face to face interaction though...
>
>
>
>
Margie
> luck in location. It is apartment next to the playground with the the
woods
> behind us. immediately below our apartment is a couple with a 9 yo and a 7
> yo, next to them the couple has a 3 yo and a 7 mo. All SAHM like me, and
it
> is just wonderful. We can swap babysitting, have a great morning chat
every
> day, and know that our kids are safe no matter which apartment they are
> occupying at the moment. I am indeed very fortunate.
>
> Cindi
Yes, you are. We live a block away from the park. I took dd there thinking
I might meet another sahm and to let her run amuck and some friends herself
but I found in this changing neighborhood that the moms and I don't speak
the same language. I'm holding out hope for when she starts preschool. ;=)
Margie
>
>
>
Margie
"Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote in message
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> Margie wrote:
> >
> > It's nice sitting on the steps chatting with other mommies as
> > > our kids play together. Let's bring back to old fashioned front purch,
and
> > > buy a couple of rocking chairs!
> > >
> > > Cindi
> > > "I love spending evenings on the porch, except for the darn mosquitos"
> >
> > You have other mommies you can sit on the porch with? Waaa....I'm
> > definitely in the wrong neighborhood. We have a swing on our back porch
and
> > a citrus candle, come on over!
>
>
> There's a place or two for sale in our neighborhood. You're welcome to
> join DH and me in the mornings for a cup of coffee as we watch the
> hummingbirds and listen to the cardinals, the doves, and new this
> morning - the cactus wren.
Okay, I'll bring the coffee cake and my binoculars!
Margie
abellz5
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felt guilt for not doing more but it's recipricol (sp). I tried one time
to call people but got a very vague kinda connection with this person.
Although I have had some reconnections and stronger bonds with a
couple people as well. But technology has taken us away from responsibility
to friends and neighbors. Nothing is simple anymore unless you work at it.
Kinda redundant!
Anni
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>
> "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote in message
> news:3B5ECBD6...@whitepine.com...
> > Margie wrote:
> > >
> > > It's nice sitting on the steps chatting with other mommies as
> > > > our kids play together. Let's bring back to old fashioned front purch,
> and
> > > > buy a couple of rocking chairs!
> > > >
> > > > Cindi
> > > > "I love spending evenings on the porch, except for the darn mosquitos"
> > >
> > > You have other mommies you can sit on the porch with? Waaa....I'm
> > > definitely in the wrong neighborhood. We have a swing on our back porch
> and
> > > a citrus candle, come on over!
> >
> >
> > There's a place or two for sale in our neighborhood. You're welcome to
> > join DH and me in the mornings for a cup of coffee as we watch the
> > hummingbirds and listen to the cardinals, the doves, and new this
> > morning - the cactus wren.
>
> Okay, I'll bring the coffee cake and my binoculars!
Who needs binoculars? We have fly-by hummers. Practice ducking.
The cactus wren was on the deck railing for a while this morning, then
hopped up into the post oak next to the deck. Yesterday afternoon, I
looked out the picture window to see two juvenile cardinals in the post
oak and after dinner last night, we saw what Chewy thinks was a juvenile
dove in one of the live oaks behind the house.
Flee
<snip>
>
> Who needs binoculars? We have fly-by hummers. Practice ducking.
>
> The cactus wren was on the deck railing for a while this morning, then
> hopped up into the post oak next to the deck. Yesterday afternoon, I
> looked out the picture window to see two juvenile cardinals in the post
> oak and after dinner last night, we saw what Chewy thinks was a juvenile
> dove in one of the live oaks behind the house.
We have a bird's nest in the tree just outside Ian's room. There are three
tinay eggs we are watching closely. Ian is thrilled. The mommy bird does not
seem to mind us looking out the window at her as long as we don't get too
close.
For apartment living this is ideal, and affordable. Plus we are so lucky
that the assistant manager lives upstairs from us so we don't have problems
with extra noise.
Cindi
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>
> <snip>
> >
> > Who needs binoculars? We have fly-by hummers. Practice ducking.
> >
> > The cactus wren was on the deck railing for a while this morning, then
> > hopped up into the post oak next to the deck. Yesterday afternoon, I
> > looked out the picture window to see two juvenile cardinals in the post
> > oak and after dinner last night, we saw what Chewy thinks was a juvenile
> > dove in one of the live oaks behind the house.
>
> We have a bird's nest in the tree just outside Ian's room. There are three
> tinay eggs we are watching closely. Ian is thrilled. The mommy bird does not
> seem to mind us looking out the window at her as long as we don't get too
> close.
>
That is great! I wish we could see into at least one of the birds'
nests around here. But they're all up in the tree tops.
Flee
Thank goodness we are a second floor apartment and have this luxury. Ian (17
months) thinks it is cool to see the bird right beside his window.
Cindi
Dimitri
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event.
> Such as a wedding or a death in the family. Then you all get together and
> say how its sad that things like this (as in the death part) is what
brings
> families/friends back together. So you will exchange emails, phone
numbers,
> etc. and make notes to get together more often..........then you never do.
> I know everyone gets involved in their daily lives all over again. But
why
> do we do this? Why is it so hard for us all to take time out and
> visit/contact old friends and family? Are our lives that busy?
We have made an accommodation to the "family" problem as follows;
There are 4 daughters and 3 SIL's so here is how it works. As the kids went
out on their own it became necessary to have a social secretary coordinate
what days people could get together to celebrate birthdays, holidays etc.
That became an impossible situation necessitation a permanent solution.
So here is how it works. The first Saturday and the third Sunday is a
"family dinner" This is a standing invitation and all who are available are
welcome. If any of the in-laws are in town or friends - all are welcome.
Just let us know how many are coming about a day in advance. The dinners
start about 2:00 or 3:00 PM and we try to eat early by 5:00 or 6:00 PM. At
the dinners we celebrate any birthday Mothers day, Fathers day etc. So far
having the "standing invitation" has worked very well, not everyone is
available all the time but for the most part they make it up to the house.
This has been going on for about 5 years and just keeps on going. The
Saturday ones usually go much later 'cause no one has to get up the next
morning for work. One more thing about every other month one of the girls
wants to host the "family dinner"
I am not saying this will work for everyone - it just works for us.
Oh yes - usually "dad" cooks
Dimitri
Margie
>
> The cactus wren was on the deck railing for a while this morning, then
> hopped up into the post oak next to the deck. Yesterday afternoon, I
> looked out the picture window to see two juvenile cardinals in the post
> oak and after dinner last night, we saw what Chewy thinks was a juvenile
> dove in one of the live oaks behind the house.
No wonder you love where you're living now....
You know my MIL would be in bird heaven at your home, she can give Audobon
(sp) a run for his money.;=)
Margie
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>
> > Who needs binoculars? We have fly-by hummers. Practice ducking.
> >
> > The cactus wren was on the deck railing for a while this morning, then
> > hopped up into the post oak next to the deck. Yesterday afternoon, I
> > looked out the picture window to see two juvenile cardinals in the post
> > oak and after dinner last night, we saw what Chewy thinks was a juvenile
> > dove in one of the live oaks behind the house.
>
> No wonder you love where you're living now....
>
It is soooo much better than where we were in Austin!
> You know my MIL would be in bird heaven at your home, she can give Audobon
> (sp) a run for his money.;=)
Bet she'd get along well with my grandma. Mamma has bird feeders by the
lilacs outside her living room window. She has her binoculars and her
bird book sitting next to her chair, by the window. NE Arkansas is a
great place for bird watching. There's eastern *and* western birds
there.
melvalena
wrote:
Dimitri
Ya know...this is perhaps THE thing about you that I remember the
most. Your family dinners and the way you have talked about them in
the past. I've always wanted to start that kinda thing with my family
but its small and DS has such varied schedules..and works such odd
shifts it just hasn't happened yet. He and his wife tend to do things
with their freinds more than with us. (I do understand)
His wife goes back home (outa state) often and he goes with her for
all major holidays. I can't seem to get dibbs on anything.
One day I will.
For those of you who don't know Dimitri, I've been reading his posts
in the cooking newsgroups for several years. He knows lots about
cooking and as you can see, really enjoys spending time with his
extended family. Because of his mentioning his family so often
I invited him to come have a look here.
melvalena
Margie
Audobon
> > (sp) a run for his money.;=)
>
>
> Bet she'd get along well with my grandma. Mamma has bird feeders by the
> lilacs outside her living room window. She has her binoculars and her
> bird book sitting next to her chair, by the window. NE Arkansas is a
> great place for bird watching. There's eastern *and* western birds
> there.
Oh doubt they could spend days on end looking, talking and MIL not only
draws the birds but paints them as well.;=)
Margie
Margie
> in the cooking newsgroups for several years. He knows lots about
> cooking and as you can see, really enjoys spending time with his
> extended family. Because of his mentioning his family so often
> I invited him to come have a look here.
>
> melvalena
Welcome to group Dimitri, another family man should round things out nicely
here plus the fact that you've been there, done that. ;=))
Margie
>
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>
> > > You know my MIL would be in bird heaven at your home, she can give
> Audobon
> > > (sp) a run for his money.;=)
> >
> >
> > Bet she'd get along well with my grandma. Mamma has bird feeders by the
> > lilacs outside her living room window. She has her binoculars and her
> > bird book sitting next to her chair, by the window. NE Arkansas is a
> > great place for bird watching. There's eastern *and* western birds
> > there.
>
> Oh doubt they could spend days on end looking, talking and MIL not only
> draws the birds but paints them as well.;=)
Oooohhhh!!! I'm jealous!
Dimitri
Thanks and yes been there done that 4 times over - that's me and 5 women. I
am the only person I know that used to get "Thank You" notes from the
Electric Company for running all the hair dryers and curling irons ;-)
My youngest, just now a mommy for the first time looked at me in amazement
the other day and said " you know you're really good with kids" meaning her
son, my grandson. It was only then I realized she had never seen me react
with an infant - all her sisters had - she hadn't.
Dimitri
Mrs. Pepper
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Dont forget it also allows us to meet people like us! :-)
Margie <--would prefer face to face interaction though...
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Me too!
Lisa
Mrs. Pepper
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I dont know if it would work.............but sure sounds like a good idea.
Doesnt hurt to try, right?
Lisa
Mrs. Pepper
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I was wondering who that was.
I will have to go back and welcome him!
Lisa
Mrs. Pepper
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P.S.
After reading Mel's response..........let me just welcome you to
alt.mothers! A great place to relax, put your feet up, and enjoy chit-chat.
Lisa
Flee
I'm a newbie around here but thought I would give you my greeting here from
MISSISSIPPI!
Cindi
Dimitri
<snip>
> After reading Mel's response..........let me just welcome you to
> alt.mothers! A great place to relax, put your feet up, and enjoy
chit-chat.
>
> Lisa
You are very kind.
It did seem a little more like a (for lack of a better term) non-instant
chat room. Which is just great for the hunt and peck typing method. :-)
Dimitri
melvalena
wrote:
Isn't it tho? :)
We all do seem to be pretty close, and as newsgroups go we ARE.
After a short while of posting newbies fit right in and you'd think
we've ALL been here together since the beginning.
We should have another roll call so we can update our exel files
that Aula made for us.
(which I lost with the death of my old computer) :(
just me
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>
> > Yes, you are. We live a block away from the park. I took dd there
> thinking
> > I might meet another sahm and to let her run amuck and some friends
> herself
> > but I found in this changing neighborhood that the moms and I don't
speak
> > the same language. I'm holding out hope for when she starts preschool.
> ;=)
> > Margie
>
ago
> when our new neighbors moved in. Usually Parker and I play in the
backyard.
> Now my new neighbor and I sit on the front porch and watch our 3 year olds
> play. People taking walks stop by and chat. A SAHM with 4 kiddo's (moved
> in almost a year ago down the street) stopped and chatted- now she's
> bringing the herd by every day for a bit. Or knocking on my front door
> inviting me over for coffee. :O) Then this other girl (who I grew up
> with!) just moved in a few months ago- didn't even know she was there.
Her
> 4 year old comes by and plays all the time. It's nuts, we've been here
for
> 3 years, didn't know anyone, and in a few weeks we've got a "community"
> thing going. I haven't met anyone that I completely connect with, but I
love
> having *someone* to talk to. Plus Parker has other kids nearby to play
> with. I think I would've met people in the beginning if I had just let
> Parker play in the front yard. That evacuation 2 weeks ago (from the
> chemical plant) helped bring everyone together, too.
> I wish you lived in my neighborhood, Margie. :O) Are you having a sudden
> cold spell, too? yesterday it was like an oven outside (94, I think) and
> now it's October.
I keep saying that alot of the problem we have with becoming so isolationist
is lack of front porches on new places. Everyone is hiding out in their
back yards where they don't see the neighbors!
-Aula, who plays in the front yard with DS as often as possible
Margie
> 3 years, didn't know anyone, and in a few weeks we've got a "community"
> thing going. I haven't met anyone that I completely connect with, but I
love
> having *someone* to talk to. Plus Parker has other kids nearby to play
> with. I think I would've met people in the beginning if I had just let
> Parker play in the front yard. That evacuation 2 weeks ago (from the
> chemical plant) helped bring everyone together, too.
> I wish you lived in my neighborhood, Margie. :O) Are you having a sudden
> cold spell, too? yesterday it was like an oven outside (94, I think) and
> now it's October.
Wow, lucky you Bethany. I have met my neighbors, we had a block party last
month so I know who is who. I did connect with this Phillipine mom but
she's a nurse married to a doc so it's hard to get together with her. We
have exchanged phone numbers and have only connected once....sheesh....we
live down the block from each other! lol
Actually I do live in your neighborhood in a sense. We are our own
community here on usenet. Not quite the same but it sure is a nice
alternative.;=))
I was going to send a "ain't it a relief" post about the weather. I'm loving
it! It's 70 degrees and breezy, humid but not sticky humid like the past
couple of weeks. I threw open the windows this morning to the down
pour....ahhhhh.
Margie
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Margie
> Margie wrote:
> >
> > > > You know my MIL would be in bird heaven at your home, she can give
> > Audobon
> > > > (sp) a run for his money.;=)
> > >
> > >
> > > Bet she'd get along well with my grandma. Mamma has bird feeders by
the
> > > lilacs outside her living room window. She has her binoculars and her
> > > bird book sitting next to her chair, by the window. NE Arkansas is a
> > > great place for bird watching. There's eastern *and* western birds
> > > there.
> >
> > Oh doubt they could spend days on end looking, talking and MIL not only
> > draws the birds but paints them as well.;=)
>
>
> Oooohhhh!!! I'm jealous!
Me too, wish I had that kind of talent. ;=)
Margie
Margie
I
> am the only person I know that used to get "Thank You" notes from the
> Electric Company for running all the hair dryers and curling irons ;-)
What no thank yous from the water dept? So tell, how many bathrooms did you
have? ;=)
>
> My youngest, just now a mommy for the first time looked at me in amazement
> the other day and said " you know you're really good with kids" meaning
her
> son, my grandson. It was only then I realized she had never seen me react
> with an infant - all her sisters had - she hadn't.
I like that. Is this your first grandchild?
Margie
>
>
> Dimitri
>
>
>
>
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>
> "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote in message
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> > Margie wrote:
> > >
> > > > > You know my MIL would be in bird heaven at your home, she can give
> > > Audobon
> > > > > (sp) a run for his money.;=)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bet she'd get along well with my grandma. Mamma has bird feeders by
> the
> > > > lilacs outside her living room window. She has her binoculars and her
> > > > bird book sitting next to her chair, by the window. NE Arkansas is a
> > > > great place for bird watching. There's eastern *and* western birds
> > > > there.
> > >
> > > Oh doubt they could spend days on end looking, talking and MIL not only
> > > draws the birds but paints them as well.;=)
> >
> >
> > Oooohhhh!!! I'm jealous!
>
> Me too, wish I had that kind of talent. ;=)
My FIL is a professional artist. Wish I had talent like his.
Margie
> Margie wrote:
> >
> > "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote in message
> > news:3B5F3897...@whitepine.com...
> > > Margie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > You know my MIL would be in bird heaven at your home, she can
give
> > > > Audobon
> > > > > > (sp) a run for his money.;=)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bet she'd get along well with my grandma. Mamma has bird feeders
by
> > the
> > > > > lilacs outside her living room window. She has her binoculars and
her
> > > > > bird book sitting next to her chair, by the window. NE Arkansas
is a
> > > > > great place for bird watching. There's eastern *and* western
birds
> > > > > there.
> > > >
> > > > Oh doubt they could spend days on end looking, talking and MIL not
only
> > > > draws the birds but paints them as well.;=)
> > >
> > >
> > > Oooohhhh!!! I'm jealous!
> >
> > Me too, wish I had that kind of talent. ;=)
>
>
> My FIL is a professional artist. Wish I had talent like his.
What's his medium? MIL does mostly water colors but not exclusively. She
could sell her art but I think she lacks whatever it takes to sell.
Probably fear of rejection?
Margie
otterbot
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> I keep saying that alot of the problem we have with becoming so
isolationist
> is lack of front porches on new places. Everyone is hiding out in their
> back yards where they don't see the neighbors!
you are so right. in australia, front fences aren't actually *allowed* in
almost all new housing developments, so if you have little kids you can't
play in the front yard in a relaxed fashion anyway. therefore you go out the
back & avoid the neighbours, & by the time the kids are old enough to go out
unattended, it might be too late to strike up friendships easily.
i live in an old suburb so we have a fenced (sort of) front yard. but,
there's no gate & we live on a major road so we just can't play out there, &
the noise etc is such that it wouldn't be pleasant anyway.
kyile
melvalena
wrote:
>
>I was going to send a "ain't it a relief" post about the weather. I'm loving
>it! It's 70 degrees and breezy, humid but not sticky humid like the past
>couple of weeks. I threw open the windows this morning to the down
>pour....ahhhhh.
>Margie
I sure wish we'd get some of your relief!
No end in sight here. :( And August is right around the corner...
(the worst of it..)
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
> > Margie wrote:
> > >
<snipped>
> > > > > Oh doubt they could spend days on end looking, talking and MIL not
> only
> > > > > draws the birds but paints them as well.;=)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oooohhhh!!! I'm jealous!
> > >
> > > Me too, wish I had that kind of talent. ;=)
> >
> >
> > My FIL is a professional artist. Wish I had talent like his.
>
> What's his medium? MIL does mostly water colors but not exclusively. She
> could sell her art but I think she lacks whatever it takes to sell.
> Probably fear of rejection?
He does pen & ink, pencil, charcoal, water color, and oils. He worked
as an artist for the WI Dept of Wildlife for several years. Chewy is
extremely proud of FIL's artwork for the Aldo Leopold to-do the Leopold
family had a few years back. Now that FIL is retired, he assists the
local elementary art teacher on a part-time basis. He's *really*
enjoying working with the younger children.
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
Our temps are finally down. The high yesterday was only 99*. No rain
in sight, though. :-(
Dimitri
> > Thanks and yes been there done that 4 times over - that's me and 5
women.
> I
> > am the only person I know that used to get "Thank You" notes from the
> > Electric Company for running all the hair dryers and curling irons ;-)
>
> What no thank yous from the water dept? So tell, how many bathrooms did
you
> have? ;=)
Water was cheap thank God - but the water heater was not. Bathrooms - not
enough but we did manage with 3. Do you realize if they all pointed their
hair dryers in the same direction at the same time we could have had our own
tornado. :-)
> > My youngest, just now a mommy for the first time looked at me in
amazement
> > the other day and said " you know you're really good with kids" meaning
> her
> > son, my grandson. It was only then I realized she had never seen me
react
> > with an infant - all her sisters had - she hadn't.
>
> I like that. Is this your first grandchild?
Yep - first one.
Dimitri
Dimitri
"Flee" <ftho...@midsouth.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
news:UmI77.632$5w4.1...@typhoon.midsouth.rr.com...
> >
> > Welcome Dimitri,
>
> I'm a newbie around here but thought I would give you my greeting here
from
> MISSISSIPPI!
>
> Cindi
Thanks and hello,
Dimitri
melvalena
wrote:
>
>"Margie" <mjkla...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:wdK77.864$nS1....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
>> What no thank yous from the water dept? So tell, how many bathrooms did
>you
>> have? ;=)
>
>Water was cheap thank God - but the water heater was not. Bathrooms - not
>enough but we did manage with 3. Do you realize if they all pointed their
>hair dryers in the same direction at the same time we could have had our own
>tornado. :-)
>
Hey thats something we can do on the Texas Mommies Camp out next
fall!!
Is this your first grandchild?
>
>Yep - first one.
>
>Dimitri
>
>
Aren't they wonderful?
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:45:36 GMT, "Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Margie" <mjkla...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:wdK77.864$nS1....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
>
> >> What no thank yous from the water dept? So tell, how many bathrooms did
> >you
> >> have? ;=)
> >
> >Water was cheap thank God - but the water heater was not. Bathrooms - not
> >enough but we did manage with 3. Do you realize if they all pointed their
> >hair dryers in the same direction at the same time we could have had our own
> >tornado. :-)
> >
>
> Hey thats something we can do on the Texas Mommies Camp out next
> fall!!
>
How many do we have who are planning to come?
Flee
>
> "Margie" <mjkla...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:wdK77.864$nS1....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > > Thanks and yes been there done that 4 times over - that's me and 5
> women.
> > I
> > > am the only person I know that used to get "Thank You" notes from the
> > > Electric Company for running all the hair dryers and curling irons
;-)
> >
> > What no thank yous from the water dept? So tell, how many bathrooms did
> you
> > have? ;=)
>
> Water was cheap thank God - but the water heater was not. Bathrooms - not
> enough but we did manage with 3. Do you realize if they all pointed their
> hair dryers in the same direction at the same time we could have had our
own
> tornado. :-)
I am one of six children, four girls, 2 boys. My Daddy always swore that if
he had invested in Kotex the year he and Mama got married they would be rich
just from the profits of their own purchases.
That many females in one house at one time got really expensive on the
feminine hygiene aisle!
Cindi
melvalena
<kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>melvalena wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:45:36 GMT, "Dimitri" <Dimi...@prodigy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Margie" <mjkla...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >news:wdK77.864$nS1....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
>>
>> >> What no thank yous from the water dept? So tell, how many bathrooms did
>> >you
>> >> have? ;=)
>> >
>> >Water was cheap thank God - but the water heater was not. Bathrooms - not
>> >enough but we did manage with 3. Do you realize if they all pointed their
>> >hair dryers in the same direction at the same time we could have had our own
>> >tornado. :-)
>> >
>>
>> Hey thats something we can do on the Texas Mommies Camp out next
>> fall!!
>>
>
>
>How many do we have who are planning to come?
we haven't really gotten a head count..I figured we'd wait till later
to get things going..
So far as I know:
for sure:
you, me, margie, (who isn't in Texas but will make the trip) deanna,
Tx sherry?
and i think there were a few others local to austin..and one or 2 down
in houston expressed some interrest.
When things cool off around here I plan on taking a day trip to the
campground you suggested and having a look see. Its been YEARS since I
was there last. I'll get a feel for where we might want to camp, make
soem reservations if possible and see where the nearest walmart and
grocery store and hospital is just incase we need it.
I'll see about a nearby motel for those who may want to come but don't
camp.
so anyhow thats about all I know so far.
and of course the only thing set in stone is that we ARE going to do
this. (RIGHT?) :)
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
Sounds good to me. We're all set to go. It's been too long since we've
done anything other than boy scout camping. This past year has been too
hectic and too expensive to allow much camping. :-(
We're looking at doing a Clannada campout in that area, too. Chewy is
now officially the Clannada contact person for anyone in Texas who wants
to participate. Of course, it's something he's taken years to get this
deeply involved with. It's a good organization.
melvalena
<kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>melvalena wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:21:29 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>
>
>Sounds good to me. We're all set to go. It's been too long since we've
>done anything other than boy scout camping. This past year has been too
>hectic and too expensive to allow much camping. :-(
I'm ready soon as it cools off.
>
>We're looking at doing a Clannada campout in that area, too. Chewy is
>now officially the Clannada contact person for anyone in Texas who wants
>to participate. Of course, it's something he's taken years to get this
>deeply involved with. It's a good organization.
What is it?
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:38:07 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>
> >melvalena wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:21:29 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
> >> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Sounds good to me. We're all set to go. It's been too long since we've
> >done anything other than boy scout camping. This past year has been too
> >hectic and too expensive to allow much camping. :-(
>
> I'm ready soon as it cools off.
>
Maybe we're having an early cooling off? <fingers crossed>
> >
> >We're looking at doing a Clannada campout in that area, too. Chewy is
> >now officially the Clannada contact person for anyone in Texas who wants
> >to participate. Of course, it's something he's taken years to get this
> >deeply involved with. It's a good organization.
>
> What is it?
It's a nonprofit educational organization focused on Celtic
Traditionalism.
Dirt Devil
Mrs. Pepper <la...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>Ever notice that you lose contact with people until there is a major event.
>Such as a wedding or a death in the family. Then you all get together and
>say how its sad that things like this (as in the death part) is what brings
>families/friends back together. So you will exchange emails, phone numbers,
>etc. and make notes to get together more often..........then you never do.
When we meet old friends or family, Kathy will almost always ask for
an address and say "I'll write."
I'll stand behind her and just shake my head "no". She *says* it but
she never does it.
--
"Who we are and who we become depends, in part, on who we love."
-- _A_General_Theory_Of_Love_ Thanks, Mom
______________________________________________________________
Glen Appleby gl...@armory.com <HTTP://www.armory.com/~glena/>
Dirt Devil
Bethany <Beth...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>It's weird, we didn't know anyone in the neighborhood until a few weeks ago
>when our new neighbors moved in. Usually Parker and I play in the backyard.
>Now my new neighbor and I sit on the front porch and watch our 3 year olds
>play. People taking walks stop by and chat. A SAHM with 4 kiddo's (moved
>in almost a year ago down the street) stopped and chatted- now she's
>bringing the herd by every day for a bit. Or knocking on my front door
>inviting me over for coffee. :O) Then this other girl (who I grew up
>with!) just moved in a few months ago- didn't even know she was there. Her
>3 years, didn't know anyone, and in a few weeks we've got a "community"
>thing going. I haven't met anyone that I completely connect with, but I love
>having *someone* to talk to. Plus Parker has other kids nearby to play
>with. I think I would've met people in the beginning if I had just let
>Parker play in the front yard.
Years ago we lived in a 40 unit appartment complex that surrounded a
pool.
It was a most amazing experience for a sense of community. There was
almost always someoine out at the pool and, as soon as someone else
saw them there, they would join them.
Dirt Devil
Flee <ftho...@midsouth.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
>We have a bird's nest in the tree just outside Ian's room. There are three
>tinay eggs we are watching closely. Ian is thrilled. The mommy bird does not
>seem to mind us looking out the window at her as long as we don't get too
>close.
The first spring after we moved in here, a blue jay family built a
nest on our bathroom window sill. Everybody enjoyed watching the
progress.
After the babies hatched, ther parents were bringing them food.
For the most part, they seemed unconcerned with us watching.
There was a small hole in the window screen. I thought that I'd help
a bit.
I took little pieces of bread and poked them through the hole in the
screen so that the parents didn't have to fly out for food.
This was a Bad Idea (tm) and the parents let me know it loudlt and
often.
Had I not done that the birds may have been back year after year.
All I have, now, as a reminder is an abandoned nest on the window
sill.
Dimitri
<snip>
> I am one of six children, four girls, 2 boys. My Daddy always swore that
if
> he had invested in Kotex the year he and Mama got married they would be
rich
> just from the profits of their own purchases.
>
> That many females in one house at one time got really expensive on the
> feminine hygiene aisle!
>
> Cindi
Thank goodness for Costco/Price Club at the time.
I look at it this way dealing with 5 women, between Pre Menstrual
Tension -Menstrual Tension and Post Menstrual Tension I went through 15
weeks of hell each month ;-)
Dimitri
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>
> "Flee" <ftho...@midsouth.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:_JW77.2572$5w4.2...@typhoon.midsouth.rr.com...
>
> <snip>
>
> > I am one of six children, four girls, 2 boys. My Daddy always swore that
> if
> > he had invested in Kotex the year he and Mama got married they would be
> rich
> > just from the profits of their own purchases.
> >
> > That many females in one house at one time got really expensive on the
> > feminine hygiene aisle!
> >
> > Cindi
>
> Thank goodness for Costco/Price Club at the time.
>
Family Dollar and Dollar General for me.
> I look at it this way dealing with 5 women, between Pre Menstrual
> Tension -Menstrual Tension and Post Menstrual Tension I went through 15
> weeks of hell each month ;-)
>
hmmmmm... are you saying that there was a reason for my telling YD that
she and I are *not* to make life hell for Chewy and the boys simply
because we feel like hell?
The Ranger
>I look at it this way dealing with 5 women, between Pre Menstrual
>Tension -Menstrual Tension and Post Menstrual Tension I went
>through 15 weeks of hell each month ;-)
<gulp!>
"So it's to be torture? I can handle torture..."
I guess I'll be setting up fishing trips with the ol' BIL's during our joint
ventures through the teenage years... Eight girls, four SO's...all grouped
in age. <sigh>
The Ranger
melvalena
<kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>melvalena wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:38:07 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>>
>> >melvalena wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:21:29 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>> >> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Sounds good to me. We're all set to go. It's been too long since we've
>> >done anything other than boy scout camping. This past year has been too
>> >hectic and too expensive to allow much camping. :-(
>>
>> I'm ready soon as it cools off.
>>
>
>
>Maybe we're having an early cooling off? <fingers crossed>
huh? whats 4 degrees? thats NOT cooling off in my book!
It only counts if its 10 degrees cooler. :)
and it has to last...none of this 2 or 3 days stuff.
>> What is it?
>
>
>It's a nonprofit educational organization focused on Celtic
>Traditionalism.
>
>http://clannada.org/
oh...
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:47:49 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>
> >melvalena wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:38:07 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
> >> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >melvalena wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:21:29 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
> >> >> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Sounds good to me. We're all set to go. It's been too long since we've
> >> >done anything other than boy scout camping. This past year has been too
> >> >hectic and too expensive to allow much camping. :-(
> >>
> >> I'm ready soon as it cools off.
> >>
> >
> >
> >Maybe we're having an early cooling off? <fingers crossed>
>
> huh? whats 4 degrees? thats NOT cooling off in my book!
> It only counts if its 10 degrees cooler. :)
> and it has to last...none of this 2 or 3 days stuff.
Hey, it's not over 100* any more.
>
> >> What is it?
> >
> >
> >It's a nonprofit educational organization focused on Celtic
> >Traditionalism.
> >
> >http://clannada.org/
>
> oh...
It's got some really good info on community, family, and kids. It's
also got info on factual Scots/Irish/Welsh/Manx/Cornish/Breton history.
Things like, Wicca is *NOT* Druidism. <pet peeve of mine>
melvalena
<kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>melvalena wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:47:49 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>>
>> >melvalena wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:38:07 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>> >> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >melvalena wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:21:29 GMT, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>> >> >> <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Sounds good to me. We're all set to go. It's been too long since we've
>> >> >done anything other than boy scout camping. This past year has been too
>> >> >hectic and too expensive to allow much camping. :-(
>> >>
>> >> I'm ready soon as it cools off.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >Maybe we're having an early cooling off? <fingers crossed>
>>
>> huh? whats 4 degrees? thats NOT cooling off in my book!
>> It only counts if its 10 degrees cooler. :)
>> and it has to last...none of this 2 or 3 days stuff.
>
>
>Hey, it's not over 100* any more.
>
close enough to it to still count, as far as I'm concerned.
>
>>
>> >> What is it?
>> >
>> >
>> >It's a nonprofit educational organization focused on Celtic
>> >Traditionalism.
>> >
>> >http://clannada.org/
>>
>> oh...
>
>It's got some really good info on community, family, and kids. It's
>also got info on factual Scots/Irish/Welsh/Manx/Cornish/Breton history.
>Things like, Wicca is *NOT* Druidism. <pet peeve of mine>
I'll have to go check it out.
Margie
"melvalena" <melv...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:ep40mt8cicia1uc4i...@4ax.com...
Oh for us too, Mel! That's why I'm enjoying this so much I know what's
coming....ugh.
Margie
Margie
> Margie wrote:
> >
> > "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote in message
> > news:3B5F7541...@whitepine.com...
> > > Margie wrote:
> > > >
> <snipped>
> > > > > > Oh doubt they could spend days on end looking, talking and MIL
not
> > only
> > > > > > draws the birds but paints them as well.;=)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oooohhhh!!! I'm jealous!
> > > >
> > > > Me too, wish I had that kind of talent. ;=)
> > >
> > >
> > > My FIL is a professional artist. Wish I had talent like his.
> >
> > What's his medium? MIL does mostly water colors but not exclusively.
She
> > could sell her art but I think she lacks whatever it takes to sell.
> > Probably fear of rejection?
>
>
> He does pen & ink, pencil, charcoal, water color, and oils. He worked
> as an artist for the WI Dept of Wildlife for several years. Chewy is
> extremely proud of FIL's artwork for the Aldo Leopold to-do the Leopold
> family had a few years back. Now that FIL is retired, he assists the
> local elementary art teacher on a part-time basis. He's *really*
> enjoying working with the younger children.
I forgot your dh hails from WI. I wonder if MIL knows his work. I'll have
to ask her, she gets around and always checks out the local artists. WI is
a fav playground for this family.
Margie
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
>
> "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
<snipped>
> >
> >
> > He does pen & ink, pencil, charcoal, water color, and oils. He worked
> > as an artist for the WI Dept of Wildlife for several years. Chewy is
> > extremely proud of FIL's artwork for the Aldo Leopold to-do the Leopold
> > family had a few years back. Now that FIL is retired, he assists the
> > local elementary art teacher on a part-time basis. He's *really*
> > enjoying working with the younger children.
>
> I forgot your dh hails from WI. I wonder if MIL knows his work. I'll have
> to ask her, she gets around and always checks out the local artists. WI is
> a fav playground for this family.
Most of his work I've seen has been landscapes. I love them. We've got
two hanging here. They were the first things I put up on the wall.
Margie
> > > as an artist for the WI Dept of Wildlife for several years. Chewy is
> > > extremely proud of FIL's artwork for the Aldo Leopold to-do the
Leopold
> > > family had a few years back. Now that FIL is retired, he assists the
> > > local elementary art teacher on a part-time basis. He's *really*
> > > enjoying working with the younger children.
> >
> > I forgot your dh hails from WI. I wonder if MIL knows his work. I'll
have
> > to ask her, she gets around and always checks out the local artists. WI
is
> > a fav playground for this family.
>
>
> Most of his work I've seen has been landscapes. I love them. We've got
> two hanging here. They were the first things I put up on the wall.
I know what you mean, Kitten.
For Christmas about 2 yrs ago, my MIL painted landscapes of the family get
away in the North Woods (WI), my FIL made made the frames from old railroad
ties left behind when the railroad used to run along the property. They
gave each of their children one, mine is hung by my front door, so it's the
first thing you see when entering. Best danged gift they could've given us.
Margie
Margie
> > What no thank yous from the water dept? So tell, how many bathrooms did
> you
> > have? ;=)
>
> Water was cheap thank God - but the water heater was not. Bathrooms - not
> enough but we did manage with 3. Do you realize if they all pointed their
> hair dryers in the same direction at the same time we could have had our
own
> tornado. :-)
Envisions shades of the Wizard of OZ....updated of course!
>
>
> > > My youngest, just now a mommy for the first time looked at me in
> amazement
> > > the other day and said " you know you're really good with kids"
meaning
> > her
> > > son, my grandson. It was only then I realized she had never seen me
> react
> > > with an infant - all her sisters had - she hadn't.
> >
> > I like that. Is this your first grandchild?
>
> Yep - first one.
Well, congratulations.;=) How old is he?
>
> Dimitri
>
>
>
Dimitri
"Margie" <mkla...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:9jppg2$9...@dispatch.concentric.net...
Thanks - born on election day so just about 9 mos.
I was present at his birth, his mothers birth and his oldest aunt's birth.
He's here:
Dimitri
Margie
birth.
>
> He's here:
>
> http://www.fladhammer.com/
>
> Dimitri
He's adorable! Big blue eyes and dimples. I looked at the more pics and it
looks like he has a loyal friend in Otis. ;=))
So tell me, Dimitri.....was his birth extremely different from your oldest
daughter's?
Margie
>
>
>
Josie
gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil) writes:
>
>In article <Tny77.117348$T97.16...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>,
>Mrs. Pepper <la...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>>Ever notice that you lose contact with people until there is a major event.
>>Such as a wedding or a death in the family. Then you all get together and
>>say how its sad that things like this (as in the death part) is what brings
>>families/friends back together. So you will exchange emails, phone numbers,
>>etc. and make notes to get together more often..........then you never do.
>
>When we meet old friends or family, Kathy will almost always ask for
>an address and say "I'll write."
>
>I'll stand behind her and just shake my head "no". She *says* it but
>she never does it.
>
We get away with this because we truly do mean it....WHEN
we say it. Honest. We really DO. We can't help it if shit happens
though.
Josie
Josie
gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil) writes:
>
>In article <7QA77.554$5w4....@typhoon.midsouth.rr.com>,
>Flee <ftho...@midsouth.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>We have a bird's nest in the tree just outside Ian's room. There are three
>>tinay eggs we are watching closely. Ian is thrilled. The mommy bird does not
>>seem to mind us looking out the window at her as long as we don't get too
>>close.
>
>The first spring after we moved in here, a blue jay family built a
>nest on our bathroom window sill. Everybody enjoyed watching the
>progress.
>
>After the babies hatched, ther parents were bringing them food.
>
>For the most part, they seemed unconcerned with us watching.
>
>There was a small hole in the window screen. I thought that I'd help
>a bit.
>
>I took little pieces of bread and poked them through the hole in the
>screen so that the parents didn't have to fly out for food.
>
>This was a Bad Idea (tm) and the parents let me know it loudlt and
>often.
>
>Had I not done that the birds may have been back year after year.
>
>All I have, now, as a reminder is an abandoned nest on the window
>sill.
That's sad, Guru. I don't know what it's like (concerning birds) out there
where you are. Isn't the weather always pretty warm out there? (Do any breeds
of your birds fly anywhere for a cold season?) What I mean is.....here on the
East coast....I've been reading about how we shouldn't feed birds at all past a
certain time of year.....(late summer to early fall)....because it's confusing
the birds who fly south for the winter. It's supposedly causing them to not
want to leave a *known* food source....hence causing these breeds to slowly die
out because they cannot withstand the cold winters once they have stayed
because of the food. Have you heard anything about this? I have alot of
birdfeeders....but now I'm getting concerned. I sure don't wanna be
contributing to the extinction of any bird species. I've read alot about this
in the past few years....but I'm not sure if it's true or not. And I'm also
just curious as to what birds do out where you are. I know (I think) that
you've said in the past that it can get cold there, right?....but is that
mainly because you are up in the mountains? Isn't most of Cal usually warm? So
do you have breeds that fly elsewhere during the cold, like we do? (if you have
cold....cold like I mean anyway.....the Brrrrrr kind?)
Just curious....
Josie
Dirt Devil
I'm feeling a bit cheated on our last summer, here. Not much along
the lines of real heat.
Oh, we had a bit. It lasted maybe a coupla weeks and then back to the
cold mornings.
Lately I have been saying "Nice spring we have been having this summer,
huh?"
Dirt Devil
Dimitri <Dimi...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>"Flee" <ftho...@midsouth.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:_JW77.2572$5w4.2...@typhoon.midsouth.rr.com...
>
>> feminine hygiene aisle!
>
Just before "BLOOD ON 17" occured, Kathy was having one of those
"really heavy periods" (actually, it was much worse than that, but she
didn't want to admit it, even to herself).
She had been going on with this Period From Hell for a coupla weeks.
She had gotten to the point where she couldn't even get out of the
house.
She had exhausted her supply of feminine products, so she asked me to
go to Costco to pick up a *huge* package for her.
I did.
That afternoon, I had decided that enough was enough and tried to take
her to the hospital to get it checked out (thus, "BLOOD ON 17").
After she got home, there were no more periods. After she had the
hysterectomy, there were *definately* not gonna be any more.
So here I sat, staring at this *huge* package of unopened femenine
hygine products.
She saw the package, as well.
I don't know if it was just my cheapness or her lack of desire to be
reminded of such things, buy we decided to return them to Costco.
The truth is that *I* was the only one who had the strength to walk in
there with them to return them.
When they asked why I was returning them, I said "They don't fit."
Glen (thank *goodness* that they have a generous return policy)
Appleby
Dirt Devil
Oh, I fully recognize that it is meant when it is said!
I just prefer to not let false hopes get going too far.
Cheryl
<stor...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>just me <jus...@thisplace.now> wrote in message
>news:rwJ77.12821$Gh1.1...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
>
>> I keep saying that alot of the problem we have with becoming so
>isolationist
>> is lack of front porches on new places. Everyone is hiding out in their
>> back yards where they don't see the neighbors!
>
>you are so right. in australia, front fences aren't actually *allowed* in
>almost all new housing developments,
Is that really true? So what's all this noise about fencing off
driveways if they can't fence the front yard? And what
justification are they using for that?
>i live in an old suburb so we have a fenced (sort of) front yard. but,
>there's no gate & we live on a major road so we just can't play out there, &
>the noise etc is such that it wouldn't be pleasant anyway.
The old style fences were pretty useless anyway, they were usually
only about chest high on a toddler.
But Aula was talking about verandas, people still build verandas on
the front of their houses but then they don't use them because they
don't want to sit at the front of their house when they've got a
perfectly nice area out the back to use.
--
Cheryl
Mum to Drew (11 Mar 99) and Reece (4 Oct 00)
Dirt Devil
Josie <josephe...@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <3b603fe1$0$328$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net>,
>gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil) writes:
>
>>
>>In article <7QA77.554$5w4....@typhoon.midsouth.rr.com>,
>>Flee <ftho...@midsouth.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>We have a bird's nest in the tree just outside Ian's room. There are three
>>>tinay eggs we are watching closely. Ian is thrilled. The mommy bird does not
>>>seem to mind us looking out the window at her as long as we don't get too
>>>close.
>>
>>The first spring after we moved in here, a blue jay family built a
>>nest on our bathroom window sill. Everybody enjoyed watching the
>>progress.
>>
>>After the babies hatched, ther parents were bringing them food.
>>
>>For the most part, they seemed unconcerned with us watching.
>>
>>There was a small hole in the window screen. I thought that I'd help
>>a bit.
>>
>>I took little pieces of bread and poked them through the hole in the
>>screen so that the parents didn't have to fly out for food.
>>
>>This was a Bad Idea (tm) and the parents let me know it loudlt and
>>often.
>>
>>Had I not done that the birds may have been back year after year.
>>
>>All I have, now, as a reminder is an abandoned nest on the window
>>sill.
>
>That's sad, Guru.
You misspelled "Glen". HTH.
Not really sad, so much as a learning experience.
>I don't know what it's like (concerning birds) out there
>where you are. Isn't the weather always pretty warm out there? (Do any breeds
>of your birds fly anywhere for a cold season?) What I mean is.....here on the
>East coast....I've been reading about how we shouldn't feed birds at all
>past a
>certain time of year.....(late summer to early fall)....because it's confusing
>the birds who fly south for the winter. It's supposedly causing them to not
>want to leave a *known* food source....hence causing these breeds to slowly
>die
>out because they cannot withstand the cold winters once they have stayed
>because of the food. Have you heard anything about this?
Well, the blue jays tend to stay year around. I call them "watch
birds", because, they make a wide variety of pleasent calls, until
something new arrives on the scene. Then they will start squacking
and seemingly never stop.
>I have alot of
>birdfeeders....but now I'm getting concerned. I sure don't wanna be
>contributing to the extinction of any bird species. I've read alot about this
>in the past few years....but I'm not sure if it's true or not. And I'm also
>just curious as to what birds do out where you are.
They fly, as do most birds.
>I know (I think) that
>you've said in the past that it can get cold there, right?....but is that
>mainly because you are up in the mountains? Isn't most of Cal usually warm? So
>do you have breeds that fly elsewhere during the cold, like we do? (if you
>have
>cold....cold like I mean anyway.....the Brrrrrr kind?)
Sure, we have birds that migrate, but the jays just tend to hang
around all year long.
Cheryl
wrote:
>In article <RrI77.3803$et7.59...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>,
>Bethany <Beth...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>>It's weird, we didn't know anyone in the neighborhood until a few weeks ago
>>when our new neighbors moved in. Usually Parker and I play in the backyard.
>>Now my new neighbor and I sit on the front porch and watch our 3 year olds
>>play. People taking walks stop by and chat. A SAHM with 4 kiddo's (moved
>>in almost a year ago down the street) stopped and chatted- now she's
>>bringing the herd by every day for a bit. Or knocking on my front door
>>inviting me over for coffee. :O) Then this other girl (who I grew up
>>with!) just moved in a few months ago- didn't even know she was there. Her
>>4 year old comes by and plays all the time. It's nuts, we've been here for
>>3 years, didn't know anyone, and in a few weeks we've got a "community"
>>thing going. I haven't met anyone that I completely connect with, but I love
>>having *someone* to talk to. Plus Parker has other kids nearby to play
>>with. I think I would've met people in the beginning if I had just let
>>Parker play in the front yard.
>
>Years ago we lived in a 40 unit appartment complex that surrounded a
>pool.
>
>It was a most amazing experience for a sense of community. There was
>almost always someoine out at the pool and, as soon as someone else
>saw them there, they would join them.
So you actually lived in Melrose Place? Do tell more!
Dirt Devil
Cheryl <cvan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 26 Jul 2001 15:59:26 GMT, gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil)
>wrote:
>
>>pool.
>>
>>It was a most amazing experience for a sense of community. There was
>>almost always someoine out at the pool and, as soon as someone else
>>saw them there, they would join them.
>
>So you actually lived in Melrose Place? Do tell more!
Past tense.
just me
"Cheryl" <cvan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fna1mtgr3sh79r4do...@4ax.com...
That's right, a porch, a veranda, with rocking chairs where the grown ups
sit and chat while the short people play on the lawn and you wave to
everyone who goes by, if not calling out a cheery hello. That's the kind of
small New England town I grew up in in the 60's. Now everyone seems stuck
inside with their air on, fenced back yards to send the kiddies out into and
the windows in the living rooms don't even face front, so they don't notice
the neighbors walking along or the bad guys casing the joint!
Did you notice that I am a big proponent of building with expectations of
being *out* doors and interacting with people whom one does not live with?
Gggrrrrrr.......silly Floridians who can't stand the humidity! move to
paradise and then avoid it!
-Aula
otterbot
> > But Aula was talking about verandas, people still build verandas on
> > the front of their houses but then they don't use them because they
> > don't want to sit at the front of their house when they've got a
> > perfectly nice area out the back to use.
>
> That's right, a porch, a veranda, with rocking chairs where the grown ups
> sit and chat while the short people play on the lawn and you wave to
> everyone who goes by, if not calling out a cheery hello. That's the kind
of
> small New England town I grew up in in the 60's. Now everyone seems stuck
> inside with their air on, fenced back yards to send the kiddies out into
and
> the windows in the living rooms don't even face front, so they don't
notice
> the neighbors walking along or the bad guys casing the joint!
but what i was trying to say, is that without a front fence *as well*, it's
often psychologically difficult for the adults to relax, knowing the small
children could run onto the road any time the fancy takes them. so
therefore, in a situation like that, i would choose to play out the back if
there's no fence, because it just isn't worth the stress.
does that make sense now.
kylie
otterbot
> <stor...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> >just me <jus...@thisplace.now> wrote in message
> >news:rwJ77.12821$Gh1.1...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
> >
> >> I keep saying that alot of the problem we have with becoming so
> >isolationist
> >> is lack of front porches on new places. Everyone is hiding out in
their
> >> back yards where they don't see the neighbors!
> >
> >you are so right. in australia, front fences aren't actually *allowed* in
> >almost all new housing developments,
>
> Is that really true? So what's all this noise about fencing off
> driveways if they can't fence the front yard? And what
> justification are they using for that?
you bet. have you ever seen a fenced front yard in a new development?
(except those faux-terraces, which they fence off with a 2 metre high brick
fence with a security buzzer. how friendly is that.)
councils seem to think the ideal suburb has a garden going to the front
boundary, & then grass where the footpath should be. which after 5 - 10
years seems to equal overgrown nasty garden all the way to the road, with
people having to walk on the road. (i'm a big fan of footpaths :-) councils
dislike building them where they don't exist already because of the expense,
but pushing a pram or walking small kids on lumpy nasty grass, over bushes,
or on the road just sucks, imo.)
i haven't heard any noise about fencing off driveways - do they mean a fence
in line with the house, & the whole front yard unfenced, perhaps?
> >i live in an old suburb so we have a fenced (sort of) front yard. but,
> >there's no gate & we live on a major road so we just can't play out
there, &
> >the noise etc is such that it wouldn't be pleasant anyway.
>
> The old style fences were pretty useless anyway, they were usually
> only about chest high on a toddler.
depends which era you're talking about. i grew up in a house built in the
30s which had a knee high fence (& i still have the scars to prove it,
playing blind man's bluff out there :-) the standard picket fence with a
gate is fine, imo.
i swear if i lived in a house on a quieter road with a decent fence we'd be
out there all the time. i would love to.
kylie
Josie
gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil) writes:
>
>When they asked why I was returning them, I said "They don't fit."
>
>Glen (thank *goodness* that they have a generous return policy)
>Appleby
>
ROTFLMAO. You crack me up....old man.
Josie
Josie
gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil) writes:
Even though I readily admit that to *me* you shall always
be thought of as Guru....I guess I can call ya Glen. I honestly never realized
that you were so sensitive. I'm sorry if my nickname for you
offended you. You calling me Joe never offended me....so I guess I
assumed the same in reverse. Sorry. From now on....I'll write Glen......but
I'll think Guru, okay? HTH.
>
>Not really sad, so much as a learning experience.
I merely meant that it's sad in the aspect of that those *very* birds mighta
come back year after year for you to enjoy.
Real cute. Anybody ever tell you you're an asshole? ;-)
>>I know (I think) that
>>you've said in the past that it can get cold there, right?....but is that
>>mainly because you are up in the mountains? Isn't most of Cal usually warm?
>So
>>do you have breeds that fly elsewhere during the cold, like we do? (if you
>>have
>>cold....cold like I mean anyway.....the Brrrrrr kind?)
>
>Sure, we have birds that migrate, but the jays just tend to hang
>around all year long.
I guess I was more interested in the ones that *do* migrate from
your area....as well as in the *to feed or not to feed* issue and how/if
that affects them. I just wondered how the migrating birds out there
had been affected by this.....if they have been at all.....and if you'd heard
of this effect. (as we have here on the East coast).
Josie
just me
"otterbot" <stor...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:YY287.15179$a04....@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
Yeah, you're right. I just wish things were different. Sounds like you do,
too. When do *we* get to design these new communities anyway?
-Aula, who has lots of ideas!
melvalena
wrote:
>In article <3B6058A4...@whitepine.com>,
>Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey, it's not over 100* any more.
>
>I'm feeling a bit cheated on our last summer, here. Not much along
>the lines of real heat.
>
>Oh, we had a bit. It lasted maybe a coupla weeks and then back to the
>cold mornings.
>
>Lately I have been saying "Nice spring we have been having this summer,
>huh?"
wish I could say that same. :(
WE in the DFW area had 101 yesterday.
Dimitri
Hmmmm Interesting question - Each birth was very different from several
standpoints.
1st daughter - my wife was a the time an RN working in L&D and had had some
problems. a fall at 6 months and then complete bed rest with real not BH
contractions which finally (after 6 weeks) stopped remember this was 35+
years ago and a lot has changed. At any rate she went into labor in the
morning By the afternoon it was back labor, after visits from other RN's we
finally went to the hospital. She checked in at 12:05 AM at 12:10 AM her
MD came through the lobby at a dead run yelling "follow me and get your
scrubs on she's having the baby" I said, "I know" He screamed no you don't I
mean she's having the baby now! Right NOW!" Please remember this was way
before Lamaze<sp> and way before dads were released from the "smoke and pace
room" . The fact is she at 12:05 she was sitting on the exam table chatting
with her friends between contractions when they finally thought it might be
a good idea to check her - she was RIM and crowning - she delivered at 12:35
AM ... All in all not a bad night. My real only worry was had I broken my
wife's back from rubbing and was the baby all there 10+10 if you know what I
mean.
1st Grandson - A different scenario - The labor was about 24 hours from
about noon till noon + The role is very different as it is a support roll
to the husband and daughter because I believe this is their event not mine -
They still deliver babies in the same way (LOL) and labor still hurts, and
women still have pain lessening options which they have to decide to use or
not use, and they still struggle with "how much of this can I really stand"
and "will I really stand straight up in the stirrups and kill the first
person I can grab?"
The focus is now divided between 3 people - my wife, my daughter and my SIL.
Is it different? Yes!
Is it the same? Yes!
It is still a miracle and still a special bond between people who have gone
through this event together. As with many other events it can have very
special way of changing a persons perspective on life.
Dimitri
.
dkjyy
"Dirt Devil" <gl...@deeptht.armory.com> wrote in message
news:3b60a66a$0$321$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net...
> In article <3B6058A4...@whitepine.com>,
> Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hey, it's not over 100* any more.
>
> I'm feeling a bit cheated on our last summer, here. Not much along
> the lines of real heat.
>
> Oh, we had a bit. It lasted maybe a coupla weeks and then back to the
> cold mornings.
>
> Lately I have been saying "Nice spring we have been having this summer,
> huh?"
>
We loved the weather there! It was wonderful to experience 80's and 60's and
even 30's at Lake Tahoe, brrrrr. Much better than coming home to 104
degrees,(sweat).
I will look forward to the Fall for the campout, I haven't forgotten!
Deanna
Dirt Devil
Josie <josephe...@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <3b60ab74$0$321$8ee...@newsreader.tycho.net>,
>gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil) writes:
>>In article <20010726184441...@nso-mb.aol.com>,
>>Josie <josephe...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>That's sad, Guru.
>>
>>You misspelled "Glen". HTH.
>
>Even though I readily admit that to *me* you shall always
>be thought of as Guru....I guess I can call ya Glen. I honestly never realized
>that you were so sensitive.
Sensitive? Hardly! It's just confusing.
When I see that term being applied to me, I think for a second that I
am in aps and wanna run out and take another acid bath. Heck, the
burns from the last time have not completely healed, yet.
>>Not really sad, so much as a learning experience.
>
>I merely meant that it's sad in the aspect of that those *very* birds mighta
>come back year after year for you to enjoy.
Oh, they are back, allright! Just not on that windowsill.
>>>in the past few years....but I'm not sure if it's true or not. And I'm also
>>>just curious as to what birds do out where you are.
>>
>>They fly, as do most birds.
>
>Real cute. Anybody ever tell you you're an asshole? ;-)
Yes. Often and loudly. Why?
>>Sure, we have birds that migrate, but the jays just tend to hang
>>around all year long.
>
>I guess I was more interested in the ones that *do* migrate from
>your area....as well as in the *to feed or not to feed* issue and how/if
>that affects them. I just wondered how the migrating birds out there
>had been affected by this.....if they have been at all.....and if you'd heard
>of this effect. (as we have here on the East coast).
Our feeding of the birds tends to be pretty non-discriminatory. We
may toss out old bread or rice, but we have yet to find a way to allow
one bird to eat, but not others.
I have tried putting up signs ("Migratory birds must use the rear
entrance"), but they tend to ignore those.
Dirt Devil
melvalena <melv...@concentric.net> wrote:
>On 26 Jul 2001 23:23:23 GMT, gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil)
>wrote:
>
>>huh?"
>
>wish I could say that same. :(
Go 'head. Please note that I didn't copyright it.
Margie
> Is it the same? Yes!
>
> It is still a miracle and still a special bond between people who have
gone
> through this event together. As with many other events it can have very
> special way of changing a persons perspective on life.
>
> Dimitri
And thank you for your perspective on it. I know the birth of my dd had a
profound effective on my life and attitude that goes beyond the daily loving
and care of her. I'll never forget the thrill of seeing the ob pull out my
dd's leg! Then he immediately pushed it back in, I experienced a quick
moment of loss (yes, it happened that quick for me). He fished around and
grabbed her the right way and pulled out a bit creation....my dh's and my
creation....it's a beautiful thing...../sigh/
I had a c-section just in case you were wondering about the stuffing her leg
back in scenario. lol
Margie
melvalena
wrote:
>In article <9dp2mtoaavm4qshhb...@4ax.com>,
>melvalena <melv...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>On 26 Jul 2001 23:23:23 GMT, gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Lately I have been saying "Nice spring we have been having this summer,
>>>huh?"
>>
>>wish I could say that same. :(
>
>Go 'head. Please note that I didn't copyright it.
but! but! it would be a lie!
thanks for the offer tho.
Nan =^..^=
I had been given a general, so I couldn't see my dd's birth :( But later,
while watching the video, I was moved to tears the minute the doctor pulled
her out, hiney first :)
--
~Nan~<--
Margie
"Nan =^..^=" <here....@catnip.com> wrote in message
news:9js1du$18917$1...@ID-88901.news.dfncis.de...
So they knocked you out? I had an epidural (sp) but my was planned as well.
You're so very lucky to have a video, wish we had thought of that....
Margie
>
>
>
Nan =^..^=
Unfortunately, yes I was knocked out. She was breech and 3 weeks early, and
my water broke. No planning there, lol. I requested an epi, but it didn't
"take". Personally, I think they just didn't want to wait for it to take
effect. But, the end result is what matters.
DH was very brave while videotaping. He held the camera steady, but
couldn't watch the whole thing. He said it didn't gross him out, but made
him cringe, knowing the pain I'd have later.
--
~Nan~<--
Dirt Devil
melvalena <melv...@concentric.net> wrote:
>On 27 Jul 2001 15:09:12 GMT, gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <9dp2mtoaavm4qshhb...@4ax.com>,
>>melvalena <melv...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>>On 26 Jul 2001 23:23:23 GMT, gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Lately I have been saying "Nice spring we have been having this summer,
>>>>huh?"
>>>
>>>wish I could say that same. :(
>>
>>Go 'head. Please note that I didn't copyright it.
>
>but! but! it would be a lie!
Oh, piffle!
I *live* a lie.
>thanks for the offer tho.
Well, as one of my favorite neuroscientists says, "Use it or lose
Margie
How was your pain? Mine didn't bother me at all and I asked they remove the
self-directed morphine drip. They refused and I didn't really understand
why until it was removed after the 3rd day for me to go home. Yikes! Then
I understood only too well. LOL
Margie
>
>
>
Nan =^..^=
Mine wasn't really all that bad. I recall feeling soreness and pain while I
was coming out from under the anesthesia, and they hooked me up to a Demerol
pump. I mainly felt pain when I had to cough. That felt like my innards
would fall out, lol. But they unhooked the pump the second day, so I could
shower, and I took codeine orally after that. I only took the codeine for
the first day at home, then switched to plain Tylenol.
--
~Nan~<--
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
It only got to 98* here. Wanna come cool off?
--
Kitten
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
I'm a bitch, I'm a lover; I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint; I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm you dream; I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way
-
- - Meredith Brooks
melvalena
<kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>melvalena wrote:
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2001 23:23:23 GMT, gl...@deeptht.armory.com (Dirt Devil)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <3B6058A4...@whitepine.com>,
>> >Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Hey, it's not over 100* any more.
>> >
>> >I'm feeling a bit cheated on our last summer, here. Not much along
>> >the lines of real heat.
>> >
>> >Oh, we had a bit. It lasted maybe a coupla weeks and then back to the
>> >cold mornings.
>> >
>> >Lately I have been saying "Nice spring we have been having this summer,
>> >huh?"
>>
>> wish I could say that same. :(
>>
>> WE in the DFW area had 101 yesterday.
>
>
>It only got to 98* here. Wanna come cool off?
GRIN!
Its too hot here to even think about loading up the truck and heading
out. :(
tho right now its 97* humidity 34% (index of 102) 3:24pm.
still got some more to go...might make to 100...might not..
got a chance of thunderstorms for tomorrow. YEAH!
Sure glad I've got lots of shade trees and a really good a/c unit.
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
I'm hoping it's not too bad along I10 tomorrow. We were going to meet
Mom in Tucumcari. Change of plans - El Paso.
melvalena
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>I'm hoping it's not too bad along I10 tomorrow. We were going to meet
>Mom in Tucumcari. Change of plans - El Paso.
I'll try to send some cool waves your way..I was born and lived in El
Paso for 22 years. Both kids born there too.
Haven't been back. But often have dreams about certain houses and
roads back there. Not all of it makes sense tho.
wave for me ok?